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UK O2 ROM - How many people switched to a cooked one?

Guys, just wondering, I can't find anything conclusive over how many people have actually moved away from the UK O2 ROM to a cooked one. Can anyone who has made the jump tell me if there was a noticeable difference and what ROM you used. Also, were they functional for everyday use?

I will be moving to a cooked ROM later, but for the time being I have gone from the o2 rom to the HTC one on the FTP.
I'm happier with it. All the HTC stuff that o2 seem to uninstall (because they are losers) is there without any need to install it all yourself.

I can't see any reason to change as yet unless there is a good cooked rom a la meschle's Touch 4.0.

Likewise, I'll be moving to a cooked rom, but am waiting for someone to make the leap first!
Any reports (successful or otherwise) will be great!

Hey guys
I've been running Bepe's 6.1 preview for the last week. To be honest, the only improvement is the threaded messaging.
I found the o2 rom quite good, but if there's something to flash I'll always give it a go. By the time you've added all your own apps it really doesn't make a huge difference.
App wise I'm running:
Vistahide battery gauge
Samsung time
o2 plus2.3 - with shortcuts & diary enabled
Spb pocket suite
Not that that has anything to do with the rom!?!
Has anyone over here tried upgrading the radio to 1.58.25.14?
Jamie

I'm still on the o2 rom, with:
PocketRAR
ClearTemp
Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool
HTC Home plugin
Home Customizer
WkTask (I really like the battery meeter along the top and the task buttons)
Until a stable WinMo 6.1 rom comes out with everything I'll stick with the o2 rom.
Why they removed the HTC home I'll never know

jamiee said:
Has anyone over here tried upgrading the radio to 1.58.25.14?
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Me, but have not noticed any difference.

I think we should start a campaign to get meschle to defect to polaris. I have already donated to towards this campaign. We would need to set up a new thread and link it to the artemis wm6 thread.

The biggest problem with the O2 ROM is that tweaks don't work. You can change a registry value and after a soft-reset it will go back to the original value. Annoying!

That's why I use that tweaking tool, it actually sets the values. Although it's not as exansive as a registry

i'm in the US using a UK Orbit 2 and i've been running the .53 version of bepe's WM 6.1 ROM. aside from the improved responsiveness and threaded messaging, you start out with 140MB of available storage and 69MB of available RAM. with all my programs loaded, i have 85 MB available, which is important to me. with the stock ROM, i started off with 89MB available before loading my standard set of apps. i've held off using newer versions because i'm happy with what i have and how it's working so far.

nickbro said:
That's why I use that tweaking tool, it actually sets the values. Although it's not as exansive as a registry
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What tweaking tool? The Kaiser one? I thought that messed peoples device up.

Don't see why I would want to flash for the time being.
To me, flashing a rom is so that I don't need to spend so much time configuring the device (because everything is pre-configured in cooked roms). And as there ain't many changes to the current cooked roms, it is quicker to configure the device than to mess with flashing.

MrSmith22 said:
Guys, just wondering, I can't find anything conclusive over how many people have actually moved away from the UK O2 ROM to a cooked one. Can anyone who has made the jump tell me if there was a noticeable difference and what ROM you used. Also, were they functional for everyday use?
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You'll never find the best ROM suited to your specific taste unless you try 'em all. Me? i'm totally sold out with Panosha's Butterfly ROM but at the moment am testing Bepe's v0.56 Full, and so far, liking it too! Cooked ROM's are always way faster and more responsive than the shipped one's.

Why do i need to install a new ROM?

Sorry for another noob question, but i own a blackstone for 2 weeks now and
i'm trying to realize why there are so many different ROMs out there.
* i'm not asking a "which rom question", just trying to learn more.
So.. i have a new blackstone with WM6.1 and TF3d. why do i need to install
a ROM anyway? i know i don't have to, but i see many people talking about it
and i feel that i'm missing something.

I would say... if you are happy with your ROM, there's no reason to change. In general, the usual reasons are:
- Your ROM is branded (Orange, T-Mobile...) and you don't need the 'extras' that your carrier has included in default ROM.
- You want to make some 'tuning' or your device and someone has cooked a ROM which includes all the patches, tricks and regisitry changes that will make your device better
- There are new versions of TF3D, camera program, or any other default program and HTC does not offer these updates to you, are only included in a new device; however you will always find a cooked ROM where these updates are included.
- Customization: Some cooked ROMs include nice TF3D customization, wallpapers, and a set of finger-friendly applications pre-installed. If you are bored with default settings and you don't like to spend much time downloading & trying things, a new ROM could be an option.
I'm still using the ROM that came with my unit.

My personal reason to flash a new (custom) rom, is to get more out of the HD then HTC give me originally. I just knew it had more potential (and I was right ). Plus, I like to play around with PC's, gadgets etc.

What's all this about newer radio versions?

Why do people rebuild old cars? why add 4-barrel carb and headers ect. Many reasons many cooked roms preform better than stock. other include apps in the rom not included by your vender. Others flash just to tinker, its fun to try the newest latest. Mosttly its to customize what you have and make it diffrent from the 100,000 other HDs

I would be very cautious about flashing your device with unofficial ROMs. While making a few improvements they carry a potentially large number of glitches. So if you're an adventurous type, go for it. Otherwise stick to the official ROM.

kevinsmbuk said:
What's all this about newer radio versions?
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Link to new radio's thread here and flashing radio's in wiki here
The radio provides improvements on the GSM radio stack and this has effect on the GSM signal, AT command interface, GSM data modem (3G, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...) functionality that is controlled by the Radio Interface Layer (RIL). The radio stack has nothing to do with WiFi or bluetooth -- it is only for the GSM/WCDMA(3G) part of the device.
Newer radio's our released which may improve GSM signal, although certain radio's work better for different countries/areas.

Ok now i get it.
I have the original ROM that came with my device and after i've found out why
people change their ROMs i think it doesn't really worth it.
The only thing i've found useful is changing my radio version, which works really
good. so now i have radio v1.12 installed.
Of course i like to tweak my device and configure it to my own needs, but for
this reason i've installed many apps without flashing a cooked ROM.

GoldCoin said:
Ok now i get it.
I have the original ROM that came with my device and after i've found out why
people change their ROMs i think it doesn't really worth it.
The only thing i've found useful is changing my radio version, which works really
good. so now i have radio v1.12 installed.
Of course i like to tweak my device and configure it to my own needs, but for
this reason i've installed many apps without flashing a cooked ROM.
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There is also some fixes which have been released by HTC for screen flickering etc which can be found on their website here

If you install a new ROM version, is possible the to put the old (original) version back to your HTC (abd howw to do that) or is too late then ?

Fallen Spartan said:
There is also some fixes which have been released by HTC for screen flickering etc which can be found on their website here
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Installed these fixes as well, but i wish HTC had more stuff in their website to download. Like newer radio versions for example?
Anyway i'm glad we can find all these things here on XDA-developers.

GoldCoin said:
Anyway i'm glad we can find all these things here on XDA-developers.
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Thats why we're here!!!
Welcome to xda developers!!

What a warm welcome that guy got.
It answered most of the question I have about using cooked (non-official) roms too.
If we are using non official ROMs can we still change the TF3D theme's and look of the Touch HD?
I am having trouble finding the best set of applications to replace the calendar, mail, SMS etc etc... I guess this is a regular question, BUT any suggestions?

ghorricks said:
What a warm welcome that guy got.
It answered most of the question I have about using cooked (non-official) roms too.
If we are using non official ROMs can we still change the TF3D theme's and look of the Touch HD?
I am having trouble finding the best set of applications to replace the calendar, mail, SMS etc etc... I guess this is a regular question, BUT any suggestions?
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Not to make you feel left out....Welcome to xda developers!!
There are numerous different themes and applications you can use to change your phones appearance. They can all be found in the applications forum located here. Do a general search for what you are looking for i.e. themes or calendar and see what threads aleady exist before creating any new ones. An example of a thread is this one Customizing TF3D - The Collection!
Hope this helps
EDIT
Also check out the wiki
Tweaks section which offers advice on:
How to customize the HD (eg. backgrounds, themes, icons etc.), Manila Research
How to customize TF3D tab icons
And the applications section:
Programs/Utilities working on the Touch HD (1 - M)
Programs/Utilities working on the Touch HD (N - Z)
Games working on the Touch HD (A - Z)
Games that have been tested to work in Full screen Mode on a HD
Touch HD freeware
Useful Software for your Blackstone

Windows Mobile 6.5 for Titan

Hi all,
Just after some advice.
I am useing dcd 3.4.3 and am enjoying it.
However, I kinda want to try something new. What is the best wm 6.5 rom out and why?

Hey there. Best 6.5 ROM? That's a matter of opinion. As far as stability is concerned, builds 21501 and 23017 lead the way. 23025 was the most recent build that I tried and it was hard to use. Windows moved the start menu icon and the "X" to the bottom. The GUI was either not user friendly or the version that I used was not made for our native resolution. I was unable to scroll far enough down in the notifications interface to be able to disable vibrate.
Tbonebtone has a nice light 6.5rom posted here in the Titan forum. R.Mogul makes a couple also, but I have never tried them and he uses a very early build.
I have been looking forward to trying the newer builds. I'm sure you have seen the more complete looking graphics and reskinned keyboards that are available in builds 23036 and 37. I am actually trying to familiarize myself with Ervius Visual Kitchen and Porting Tools just so I can try some of these newest builds. Seems support for the Titan device has really died in the past few months.

Hi there,
Thanks for the tip. i will give those to builds a go and report back. If you have anymore info on the latest ones that would be great.

LiamRutherford said:
Hi there,
Thanks for the tip. i will give those to builds a go and report back. If you have anymore info on the latest ones that would be great.
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I should have more info on newer builds this weekend. The family is out of town and I have little better to do tomorrow.

In my search on how to accurately update my kitchen for unsupported builds, I came across this thread. It seems that this gentleman is updating us with new roms and providing us with the newest .nbh files. Of course, these are his ROMs, so he added his splash screens that say "WM7"... not sure why??, some games, etc. The buttons on the dialer are transparent with white font, so a darker bg is a must. Also he included the "honeycomb" start menu. Some people like it, but its not for me. Overall, despite the aforementioned, this rom seems stable and boots at a lovely 25.4 mb.
More here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=67673

A working Dusk Dialer for ATT Tilt 2

Has anyone come across a working Dusk dialer for an ATT Tilt 2? Stock TF3D 2.1.191... Windows 6.5 prof. build 21849.5.0.63
Yeah I know, but I am not ready to flash a new ROM yet, I don't need to carry around a brick until I can get it fixed. Thanks since it is only this site that has kept me from hating this phone. Why have so much potential, and yet not give your customers the key?? I'll never understand. In advance thanks

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Has anyone come across a working Dusk dialer for an ATT Tilt 2? Stock TF3D 2.1.191... Windows 6.5 prof. build 21849.5.0.63
Yeah I know, but I am not ready to flash a new ROM yet, I don't need to carry around a brick until I can get it fixed. Thanks since it is only this site that has kept me from hating this phone. Why have so much potential, and yet not give your customers the key?? I'll never understand. In advance thanks
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I did port over the dusk dialer for the att dialer. ( check my sig for link) It has caused some odd issues for others but works for alot of people. If you could try it and let me know.

I tried..I tried
Oh I tried it, but it did exactly the same thing as the dialers on this page though in a little different way. I have the exact setup as some of the other users that posted that they did not get it to work. It froze me out of TF3D, so I am not sure what to do. I have all of the rest of Dusk working with the exception of the shutdown screen. Kind of sucks. I should say that it did sort of work, but when I dialed (b4 it froze) the numbers were not those dialed.
I would be happy to reinstall it if you want a more specific breakdown of what occurred. Just say the word

nerv666999 said:
Oh I tried it, but it did exactly the same thing as the dialers on this page though in a little different way. I have the exact setup as some of the other users that posted that they did not get it to work. It froze me out of TF3D, so I am not sure what to do. I have all of the rest of Dusk working with the exception of the shutdown screen. Kind of sucks. I should say that it did sort of work, but when I dialed (b4 it froze) the numbers were not those dialed.
I would be happy to reinstall it if you want a more specific breakdown of what occurred. Just say the word
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give me some time today and ill dump the att stock rom again and use those dll to make the cab. I am not sure why it is causes issues on the stock roms.

Hey thanks for the help and take whatever time you need. I was sick of that blue themed garbage I got with my phone almost as soon as I pulled it out of the box. I had originally purchased a Samsung Solstice, but it was too girly, not heavy enough and I didn't like how the touchscreen felt so I upgraded to a Tilt2 and was shocked that I couldn't even change the color of the huge clock they put on the home screen whereas with the Solstice you could change most of it. Anyway thanks for your time

to be honest with you i would flash a custom rom nerv666999. i tried the dusk them with my tilt2 on the stock rom and it wasn't that great. i flashed to one of twopumpchump's roms from this post, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576361im using the TPC PRO Series v4 Standard with HTC 3G DIALER(manila 2.1 only) and i love it. after flash i have 248mb of storage, 104mb of program memory and only uses like 50% of the memory at the home tab with manila running. also this rom is sense 2.1 manila not touchflow 3d. has the weather on the clock. the dusk theme works great with it and the 3g dusk dialer works just fine. trust me, you'll never use all of that att crap they fill the phone up with

Maybe I will take the plunge and do it, but shouldn't I use the HardSPL first prior to flashing the new ROM? It just seems hard to take any directions verbatim with so many variations of unit. Might be same hardware, but running different software. It's one of the things I hated about the Tilt 2 when I first bought it. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Between HTC, Microsoft and ATT it is all just too many competing interests. Thanks for the input I will check it out. One question though, if you were going to flash your ROM why not do it with 2.5 or something more than the 2.1?

T-Mobile stock ROM is 100% trash, looking for a new one !

Well guys, after a couple weeks with the stock TMOBILE rom I conclude that it's just USELESS.
I can't even use the phone... It's getting stuck when I'm trying to call someone, stuck when viewing images, stuck stuck stuck, at least 5 times a day.
Plus a million SOD's a day... I tried everything, from losing all apps, to modifying the registry.
I NEED A NEW ROM
But there are so many over there, I do not know what to choose.
I need:
1. As little visual tweaks as possible, i'd like to take care of that myself (CHT Cooked in is fine though)
2. Maximum system stability and performance, I DON'T WANT HANGS FROM SIMPLE OPERATIONS SUCH AS CALLING SOMEONE
3. No bloatware
4. Not much bugs (ie good support, constantly worked on, not a 1 time "job" )
Basically If it can resemble the stock one, but with more stability, tweaks and performance boosts, then i'm happy.
I have the sticky flashing manual in hand, so all I need is a recommendation.
Looking forward to flashing this thing today, thank you very much XDA.

Energy ROM Cookie's Reference ROM

this is a custom rom close to stock as you're going to get, please make sure you read loads before flashing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580

chaoscentral said:
Energy ROM Cookie's Reference ROM
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Or the standard sense reference or full. I recommend using the 23569 builds as well. more finger friendly and slightly quicker. Also there is an advantage with the full version in that if you wish to update the rom in future you can backup your settings using the energy settings exporter and then reimport them.

regarding the builds mentioned - can you expand ? links ?
thanks !
Exporter sounds GREAT.

Basically there are two builds of almost all the custom roms. One build will be the latest 6.5 build (21907, same WM version as the stock roms but with some bug fixes) then there is the 23569 (or higher) builds. These are WM 6.5.5. Some big changes here to the way the start menu works and also to the UI to make it more finger friendly. It's also a little quicker than WM 6.5 but (apparently. i've not found any yet) more buggy then WM 6.5. Also as i said (and i've now checked this) custom roms also include newer, less buggy, versions of sense (AKA manilla)

I suggest EnergyROM

Great, I think I will go for Energy.Leo.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.Reference.Jun.26.7z
Is that OK for me ? (well, is it better than what i have now )
Is there a settings exporter in Energy.Leo.21907 ?

If you have the T-Mobile US HD2, make sure you use the right radio for your device.

That would do nicely although i don't know if it includes the exporter tool. You may want to look at the full cht version.
Good point about the radio. I have a UK version so i can use whatever i want. The right radio roms for the TMOUS devices have verison numbers that look like this: 2.xx.50.xx. the 50 bit is important as radios with the 50 in it have the unlock code for the extra ram in them and are compatible with the 1024MB rom chips. Also never ever use a radio with a version number like this: 2.xx.51.xx. The 51 radios will brick your phone and they can not be recovered as far as i am aware.
And yes afaik there is a setting exporter in the WM 6.5 builds

My radio is 2.10.50.26
Is that OK ?
Just how much faster is the 6.5.5 over the regular one ? I'm not liking that lower start button anyway so if it's not really faster i'll pass.
Looks kinda like an iPhone.. Less " serious "
m3ph - what ROM have you had in mind with the Exporter build in and the upper start button and CHT ?
I thank you for all the help... I am feeling positive about my HD2 again.. Can't wait to flash it !
Just making sure I get everything right about all the different Energies so I don't reflash and reflash a thousand times... Making a concious decision

Silencer23 said:
My radio is 2.10.50.26
Is that OK ?
Just how much faster is the 6.5.5 over the regular one ? I'm not liking that lower start button anyway so if it's not really faster i'll pass.
Looks kinda like an iPhone.. Less " serious "
m3ph - what ROM have you had in mind with the Exporter build in and the upper start button and CHT ?
I thank you for all the help... I am feeling positive about my HD2 again.. Can't wait to flash it !
Just making sure I get everything right about all the different Energies so I don't reflash and reflash a thousand times... Making a concious decision
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the radio will be fine.
The difference in speed is not massive so i wouldn't worry about it.
The rom i'm thinking of will be at this link: http://hotfile.com/dl/50755734/bde591c/Energy.Leo.21907.Sense2.5.Cookie.Jun.26.Take2.7z.html
Sorry if i'm being a little slow. i'm trying to eat my din, while texting the mrs, getting nfs world beta to work and figure out why sense will not show around 3500 of my messages and thinks my sister is my best mate

Deal, I will burn that ROM then, in the 21907 version and settle down.
Does it have the exporter for future upgrades ?
Looks like i'm fixed then ! Thanks ! What version is the faulty Sense that thinks your sister is your best mate ? hahah

Sorry to hear that... my stock ROM still works fine... I did not even update it yet - this one was right from the get-go

Well, I'm on Energy CHT now and IT'S A DIFFERENT PHONE !
WOW.
Thanks guys. You saved my phone and my money !

Now install chainfires 3D driver patch v2 on it and leocpuspeed v4 you'll be shocked.

Wooo Hoo ! This phone is ON FIRE now
Now we're talking !!
Thanks man ! Any more tips ? hehe

What a coincidence. I'm also having lots of problems with my TMobile UK Rom, same freezing, etc.
I have seen quite a few Roms that I'd be interested, but most of them don't mention whether they will work with a locked T-Mobile handset, and if they do, it only refers to TMobile US version.
Will any Rom work on a T-Mobile UK locked handset, or would I also have to flash a new radio. I have 2.07.50 at the moment.
Like I said, I've seen quite a few Roms that I like, but just concerned in case I flash a Rom that's not compatible.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Silencer23 said:
Wooo Hoo ! This phone is ON FIRE now
Now we're talking !!
Thanks man ! Any more tips ? hehe
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if you have a wifi router in your house get wifi remote access. It allows you to transfer files to and from the phone using a web interface over the wifi. It also allows you to edit the registry "remotely". Really handy little tool that.
Also have a look at omarket. some handy tools can be got from there but be careful not everything is Leo compatible.
Coreplayer is handy if you wanna watch tv shows or movies. just set the video mode to raw frambuffer if the picture looks scrambled. This one isn't free but is definitely worth paying for coz tcpmp (it's free cousin) isn't as good. I also use srs WOWHD with this to improve the sound. look for 1.5 V2.
The only more i can say is use a PIM backup tool regularly. something like MS myphone or PIMBackup. Saves some time if you don't have an exchange server to store you contacts, mail etc

s32bauer said:
What a coincidence. I'm also having lots of problems with my TMobile UK Rom, same freezing, etc.
I have seen quite a few Roms that I'd be interested, but most of them don't mention whether they will work with a locked T-Mobile handset, and if they do, it only refers to TMobile US version.
Will any Rom work on a T-Mobile UK locked handset, or would I also have to flash a new radio. I have 2.07.50 at the moment.
Like I said, I've seen quite a few Roms that I like, but just concerned in case I flash a Rom that's not compatible.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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My advice to you would be to stick to a rom that says it is tmous compatible. that way it will work on any leo but the phone will still be sim locked. so if you wanted to sim unlock it you would need to get an unlock code from TMOUK