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wm7 Review feature an screenshot
http://eng.mobiset.ru/articles/text/?id=45
MICROSOFT NEW WM7 RELEASE DELAYED LOOK HERE
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10048061-56.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0
Last week's news - today!
Delayed again?
Now it will be released 2010?
LOL, You're linking to a page, saying september 23! That doesn't say anything to you?
lolacaust -.-
Breaking news, as we know them from fox
johanromijn said:
Delayed again?
Now it will be released 2010?
LOL, You're linking to a page, saying september 23! That doesn't say anything to you?
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LINK SAY
"Although Microsoft has not publicly said when to expect Windows Mobile 7, partners who had expected to have a final release in their hands by early next year have been told now that it won't be ready until the second half of next year"
i did not know that, but anyway i did not expect wm7 this or the next year
This will be the death of windows mobile if not a wonder happens and they are able to make a fast, logical, functionel and good looking OS. but this would mean to make every application in wm new.
If they can manage that: okay, but really lets all say thank you too iphone and android, that there is going somthing foward after all the years of microsoft stagnancy.
Must wait to 2010/11.
So annoying... I'm really looking forward to WM7.
bummer
we all need the new windows mobile....cuz this one sucks!!
hey I won't complain, as long as they take the time to make sure its done right. I would love to have the zune features on my phone. plus its an all new code base I hear. so this should be intersting, I hope they implement propper animations in the one.
also why did the first poster aatach a picture of windows mobile standard 6.1 sliding panels ?
this is the home screen for non touch screen phones. thats not wm7
shadowmike said:
also why did the first poster aatach a picture of windows mobile standard 6.1 sliding panels ?
this is the home screen for non touch screen phones. thats not wm7
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because that is the picture from the article.
It's Microsoft's product. You know!
It's been a long time that we consumers or users expect something from them. But they are always delaying the release. Why do they have to release a target date when it's not ready yet? I think they are trying to make us hungry with their product. Right now I am just hoping that Android will be ported to my device. I don't wanna wait for another year(s) for the release of WinMo.
see in first post and know about wm7 a review edited now
Yep, the X2 will be released (on vodafone) on the 6th of November.
Can't wait to have an X2 ROM!
does no 1 care that rachael/x3/infinity will be announced on nov3? !!!
killerskincanoe said:
does no 1 care that rachael/x3/infinity will be announced on nov3? !!!
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I do but from the speculated specs it's not gonna have US 3G bands. I hope the rumors are wrong. Plus, I can imagine how much it's gonna cost. I'm not paying anywhere near a $1000...maximum maybe around $700.
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Can't wait to have an X2 ROM!
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agree!
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Yep, the X2 will be released (on vodafone) on the 6th of November.
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i did hear this a while ago but have not seen it confirmed, when i ask by twitter on the xperia blog i was told it was up to vodaphone to announce it but on there website it just says november.
just got a direct message from the xperia blog on twitter. i ask why i have not see and reviews yet. they said that they are still waiting for the final x2 software and and we should see reviews soon. they said in a twwet to someone else that they should be sent out next week.
can they release on the 6 november when they still have not got the final software? i doubt they will, my guess would be mid to late november
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just got a direct message from the xperia blog on twitter. i ask why i have not see and reviews yet. they said that they are still waiting for the final x2 software and and we should see reviews soon. they said in a twwet to someone else that they should be sent out next week.
can they release on the 6 november when they still have not got the final software? i doubt they will, my guess would be mid to late november
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Would seem odd, but then again it wouldnt suprise me if SE released this early without the final software update. It says so on the Voda website that it will come on the 6th.
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Would seem odd, but then again it wouldnt suprise me if SE released this early without the final software update. It says so on the Voda website that it will come on the 6th.
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have u got a link as i get this:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/sony-ericsson-x2
just says november.
ps. i hope it comes out on the 6th but i dont want to believe it till its confirmed or i would just be disappointed when the date comes and go's.
judging from SE's past...we probably won't see it till next March or something lol
Bennieficial said:
judging from SE's past...we probably won't see it till next March or something lol
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Seeing the latest trend it will be on time actually.
Ganondolf said:
have u got a link as i get this:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/sony-ericsson-x2
just says november.
ps. i hope it comes out on the 6th but i dont want to believe it till its confirmed or i would just be disappointed when the date comes and go's.
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To find out, go to this page http://www.vodafonetouchthephone.com/ , click on "skill game", while playing that on the bottom left of the screen different phones will pop up, everytime the phone pops up the date of release pops up with it. You may have to play it a few times as different phones pop up.
id be more interested in the new droid than a rebadge x1
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To find out, go to this page http://www.vodafonetouchthephone.com/ , click on "skill game", while playing that on the bottom left of the screen different phones will pop up, everytime the phone pops up the date of release pops up with it. You may have to play it a few times as different phones pop up.
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looks like the 6th is the official date. but one thing i would point out is the satio's date is the original one and that was delayed by a week or 2 so the x2 might get the same treatment but lets hope not.
We won't see the X2 in the shelves before the very end of November the earliest.
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We won't see the X2 in the shelves before the very end of November the earliest.
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I can wait!
I don't get it... so You guys are actually waiting for it?? damn... msm 7200a cpu is sooo yesterday comparing to snapdragon or a8 cortex devices. I would wait few more weeks/months if I were You. the worst thing one can do is to sign a vodaphone contract for 18 - 24 mths to get it. well... other than 8 mp camera, what's so special about x2 anyway? panels? please..... SE's quality??
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I am keeping x1 till release reviews of htc leo, n900 and x3 (if those rumours about nov 3 are real).
then I shall burn my money...
X2 java speed at top
Someone wrote in an SE forum that X2 might get different hardware specs than what leaked before (7200a). Lets wait for the final device and see what aktually is in it
Lets hope they speed it up a bit.
If it does come out on the 6th it'd be just in time before the warranty for my X1 expires so that I can send it for servicing of the keyboard. Been delaying it for so long cos can't do without it for a day.
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I don't get it... so You guys are actually waiting for it?? damn... msm 7200a cpu is sooo yesterday comparing to snapdragon or a8 cortex devices. I would wait few more weeks/months if I were You. the worst thing one can do is to sign a vodaphone contract for 18 - 24 mths to get it. well... other than 8 mp camera, what's so special about x2 anyway? panels? please..... SE's quality??
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I am keeping x1 till release reviews of htc leo, n900 and x3 (if those rumours about nov 3 are real).
then I shall burn my money...
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Well what is SO strange if somebody WANTS that?
I don't ****ing care if it's "so yesterday" or today on paper.
If it works well - great, **** the "dry" specs.
And if it works bad, it's bad.
BTW I don't get any Vodafone contract, but simply buy this from SE.
As for device: great camera, great keyboard, good quality, and yes - also those damned panels. Now you get it?
Snapdragon - there are only two now, both touchscreen only, even no camera button - thank you.
I'm very picky as for hardware/formfactor, nothing convinces me.
N900 - please, a device which works in landscape ONLY???
So - not much to choose from!
And Android - that would be interesting but again - depending too much on Google - thanks.
I'd be really happy to have at least 3 devices I like to choose from but it just cannot happen!
HTC makes such a crappy devices (form factor/functionality)....
An official update from Sony Ericsson UK from 2 days ago:
The update including v2.1 and HD recording will be released before the end of September, and will not be delayed to Q4 like someone mentioned here on the forum.
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/21570424945
iamtal said:
An official update from Sony Ericsson UK from 2 days ago:
The update including v2.1 and HD recording will be released before the end of September, and will not be delayed to Q4 like someone mentioned here on the forum.
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/21570424945
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Old news is old, but thanks for the effort.
Good to know that they are aware of the Q4 rumours and have squashed them.
Hopefully they roll out the update in the early part of September.
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Old news is old, but thanks for the effort.
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It's not old, it is a new announcement from 2 days ago.
Someone here on the forum claimed that he has some internal information from Sony saying that the updated will pushed back to Q4 due to performance issues, and this new announcement reassures that the update will be released on Q3 as promised before.
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It's not old, it is a new announcement from 2 days ago.
Someone here on the forum claimed that he has some internal information from Sony saying that the updated will pushed back to Q4 due to performance issues, and this new announcement reassures that the update will be released on Q3 as promised before.
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I didn't mean old as in the passage of time but rather old as in that specific tweet had been discussed to death already. Was just trying to inject a quick quip before the hordes descended on the thread and flamed it into oblivion.
the announcement is very important. There has been a lot of rumors flying around the market. In this particular time, the consumers do need the official clarification instead of just guessing themselves. Thanks to SE UK for making the announcement again, which should have been done on the SE product launch blog.
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thanks for the information.
O Nozzz!
Without my upgrade tomorrow to 2.2 all the other kids in my class will think I am 2% less cool than they are!!
I read on the interwebs that Sony lied to me, and I will never ever ever ever forgive them. And I am going to cut myself.
/sarcasm
Was wishing to get it before school starts.. Guess not... BTW, we get to keep all our stuff/settings in the update right?
Here in denmark x10 will get a update next week, but don't know what phone of the xperia series it is
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knudsen81 said:
Here in denmark x10 will get a update next week, but don't know what phone of the xperia series it is
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How do you know?
miguelsantos1979 said:
How do you know?
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some that have buy a mini pro from telmore has got a note with it that says they will get a update in week 34
here is a link http://kortlink.dk/82tv
People make airplanes for 6 months and SE needs that time to implement OLD 2.1 on X10 device...they could build whole new X20 phone for that time.
You say "A" update are we talking 2.1 or what (Im dane as well) and where do you got that from
Oh it just say a updaye not what it is and just that it will solve known problems
NiJunge said:
You say "A" update are we talking 2.1 or what (Im dane as well) and where do you got that from
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it was uploaded on mobildebat.dk but i don't know what a update it is
damirbusic said:
People make airplanes for 6 months and SE needs that time to implement OLD 2.1 on X10 device...they could build whole new X20 phone for that time.
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I wouldn't set foot in an airplane that was designed in under 6 months
SE sure take some time, but I'd rather have them deliver a well refined 2.1 then some quick fix
beno1 said:
I wouldn't set foot in an airplane that was designed in under 6 months
SE sure take some time, but I'd rather have them deliver a well refined 2.1 then some quick fix
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Heh, airplanes take years to design, test and build. The 747 for example started development in 1965 before entering service in 1970.
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Heh, airplanes take years to design, test and build. The 747 for example started development in 1965 before entering service in 1970.
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But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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Exactly and remember how long it took to modernice the concord ???
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But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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More like taking the blueprints for a 747, building a new body but keeping the infrastructure underneath while adding a fourth floor. It's not as big of a task as building it from scratch but it while take considerable time to develop, test and then finally build it. Might not take five years, but getting it done it under two would be a massive accomplishment.
Anyone in the 29th batch get a confirmation yet. I haven't.
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Nope..honestly speaking my hopes are not high either.
No Yet,
Let's hope there is no more delays
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Nope..honestly speaking my hopes are not high either.
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You're in Japan as well? I hope it takes only 2 days to get here. The wait is killing me.
Chinese new year starts I think today, if they wait to ship it will be 3 weeks.
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I was one of those 50 un-fortunate guys whose shipping date changed from 9th Jan to 15-22 Jan and to 29th Jan, its already 3:00 p.m in U.A.E and no news from NI or factory. I'm not asking for any tracking no, just need a confirmation at moment that its shipped. I really don't know what to talk about this company at the moment. We all have waited so long with false hope. At-least NI don't fails us again.
Well, it is almost 8 pm in China at the moment, so I lost my faith in it at this moment...
why why why???
All i can say is HAVE FAITH IN GOD.
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All i can say is HAVE FAITH IN GOD.
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Keep your faith, but I think, fairytale figures are not sending any tablets.
You will wait in vain, I'm afraid.
Hope is what - the world lives on...
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Well, it is almost 8 pm in China at the moment, so I lost my faith in it at this moment...
why why why???
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Think positive. Better to get adam in March, than next year.
Honestly, I am ok with it being delayed, but in all honesty its bad form to post a sarcastic blog about how everything is not delayed, and then have it delayed:
http://notionink.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/delayed/
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I was one of those 50 un-fortunate guys whose shipping date changed from 9th Jan to 15-22 Jan and to 29th Jan, its already 3:00 p.m in U.A.E and no news from NI or factory. I'm not asking for any tracking no, just need a confirmation at moment that its shipped. I really don't know what to talk about this company at the moment. We all have waited so long with false hope. At-least NI don't fails us again.
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So was I, I don't know how much longer I am willing to wait either. This is becoming a little much
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spaceKomet said:
Think positive. Better to get adam in March, than next year.
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Better to have a Xoom in February than an Adam in March.
...all kidding aside, I'm really hoping they got the shipments out and just haven't updated things. With the holidays going in in China right now, it could REALLY slow things down and I'm not interested in waiting any longer.
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And to the topic of the thread, there hasn't been any change in my order status lately. (Moved from the 9th to the 15th-22nd window to the 29th.)
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Better to have a Xoom in February than an Adam in March.
...all kidding aside, I'm really hoping they got the shipments out and just haven't updated things. With the holidays going in in China right now, it could REALLY slow things down and I'm not interested in waiting any longer.
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And to the topic of the thread, there hasn't been any change in my order status lately. (Moved from the 9th to the 15th-22nd window to the 29th.)
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Yeah, I am not going to wait if my order gets pushed back again. This is getting rediculous. Their are so many great tablets coming out and if I can't get my Adam soon I am going to go else where. Don't get me wrong, I really want the Adam but I feel add if notion ink thinks that everyone is going to put up with continual delays without giving us any info as to what's going on. They should at least give us an update as it is the 29th.
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I honestly cannot see us (the 9th > 15th-22nd > 29th club) getting their Adams for at least 2 weeks - Chinese New Year.
A shameful lack of communication from NI and hve you guys realised the "cancel your order has been removed from the NI preorder update page.
I have been a loyal follower for 9 months, I'm just disappointed to say I no longer believe anything posted by Rohan regarding hardware specs and especially shipping dates.
Rohan Shravan just outright refuses to update on shipping which is an enormous worry. The last he said was "2nd and 3rd" batches would ship on time and then slips in the Chinese New Year problem.
I don't even have a pre-order so i am thinking April+ for me(and many others) to have a chance to get one.
I don't envy Mr. Shravan to much, he must be under much stress from all directions.
Well, maybe........
- I read somewhere that a notification will be send only after it arrived in Hong Kong, not out of the fabric
- The cancellation link from our preordersite has been removed
- Rohan said in his blog the 2nd batch will be in time
- There is no statement of delay such as the last delay (12 seconds before end of day)
- Chinese New Year starts on tuesday?
So maybe, just maybe we will get our trackingmail on monday, the last day before Chinese New Year???
Fingers crossed :-o
Leon
I read someone in NotionAddicts requested a cancellation on the shipping date, and was told (s)he could still cancel as his (her) Adam was not shipped.
So, I rather assume the shipment was delayed without any notice / a change in the estimated shipping date on the NI site than get disappointed.
I'm pretty sure Rohan stated on the blog that all the Adams would be shipped out even during the chinese new year. And that a small batch of screens got busted on their way over, but the company that makes them will stay and fix the ones that got broken before they leave for the new year.
Here's his quote taken from the blog:
"The second & third phase of shipments will start on time.
Little bad and good news, one of our shipments for the touch screens got damaged while transportation which is going to effect a fraction of our customers. To make things worse, its New Year in China and every manufacturing plant is closed. But our touch-screen partners, Sinotek (also known as Sintek), will stay open for the Chinese New Year and re-manufacture all the remaining touch screens to deliver. I am making this special note, because we are really overwhelm at their response and want to thank all the employees at their firm who are going to miss their New Year celebrations and home visits."
So have hope! At least you made it into the pre orders. I have to wait until they open it up to the public.
http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-pro-mango-september-20/
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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i wonder if there will be anything different from the RTM? better auto settings for the camera i hope
Do you have to revert back to nodo or can you update from mango beta 2
I guess there will be new version of EM, as new version of firmware will be on the 7720.68 update.
See the picture from the link below:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/475/412/html/42.jpg.html
Then we may have to figure out the registry and those dlls again.......
According to the Japanese media, typing in other languages, other than those 5, on the keypad should be supported.
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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I don't really get this article. In typical headline-grabbing style WMPU position this article it as fact, without providing any offical source or quote, but then go on to caveat it up to the hilt to cover their back. And typically this has been re-quoted all over the web without so much as a question. Yet up to this point many were saying that existing DVPs wouldn't get an official update. Where is the evidence that Dell have insisted this is true or official? Is it something the rep said in the video?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260411
that post makes it pretty clear that dell is going to do an update.
phone from dell with mango and new firmware.
True, but that's a "brand new" phone. But still doesn't answer why WMPU (and everyone else who jumped on their bandwagon) are treating it as indisputable fact when, as far as I can see, in typical blog style, they've not backed it up with any source or quote.
Still, I guess we've not long to wait and find out!
Probably because the author knows people at Dell:
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...-pro-firmware-revision-coming-next-month.aspx
I'd guess Dell probably aren't allowed to announce a date until Microsoft officially launches Mango. There is a huge Microsoft conference happening at the moment (http://www.buildwindows.com/). Would be very surprised if Mango was not 'launched' officially during the conference.
20th September is the first Tuesday after the conference ends, so it's a plausible date.
Ah, that explains it then. Apologies all round for being such a sceptic!
Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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column A and column B
yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is whenyou see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
The circumstances for the release of mango is different than with Seven and NoDo.
With seven, it was all about timing. Small market release upfront, followed by reaction plan and response.
Nodo was an updat, nothing more.
Mango is a new device focused release. Its step 2 in the MS mobile plan.It released to Operators several weeks ago. What was released back in july is what youll see next week. Anything new since the RTM will be this years nodo. Historically, new OS's have rarely updated near launch date, the focus instead on the new device release. If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them. But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
From someone who has the mango rtm already, but no longer uses the vp as my primary device, i can say i will not move back to the device as my primary device. Its slow and bulky compared to many of the android devices. I do however hold great hope for windows phone and will buy a new device when i see 4g, dual core, and wifi integrated calling. I believe windows phone is better than android. It just doesnt have all the cookies yet.
With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is when you see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them.
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But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
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With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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i can vouch for the information. The person gave me a unit to personally test and write about. I'm pretty sure that's enough to vouch for their reputation.
But realistically, mobile sites are dicy on rumor mill, but that doesn't stop reporting at all. And sadly on more than one occasion, several sites haven't fact checked a rumor before it ran out of commotion (anyone remember the initial HD3 specs fiasco?)
I can understand your skepticism, but that's also why I indicated that delays happen and things get pushed back. Realistically anytime there is a date given by any dev, oem, or company, it always never EVER delivers on that promised date.
But it is news that many want to know about. And the source is extremely RELIABLE and about as official it is going to get regarding dell's restructuring of their mobile division.
You don't have to trust the date, in fact I suggest not to do so. But given the indication that mango is coming in that timeframe (middle of september) clarifies the position that the rumored release date gains more credibility. Also, since TMO gets a bevy of updates on Tuesday for windows phone camp (nodo, security, firmware), Tuesday at least is a relatively big day for tmo as far as pushing out updates are concerned.
That was the point of the article. Seriously no need to overanalyze it, it will make you old and gray =P
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
jessej said:
Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
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same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
domineus said:
same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
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for no earthly reason that you know of....
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domineus said:
I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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for no earthly reason that you know of....
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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In the US at least only at&t has announced new hardware and they have committed to a fast update rollout so it would seem there shouldnt really be a delay due to new hardware.
its the 20th! cant wait if this is true!