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Possible G.P.S. Activation Fix

I'm pretty sure the following tip is accurate. I received yesterday a new HD, my first having broken just by pressing the screen! I was very relieved that just by reinstalling from memory card all my apps, that the apps settings were still valid - I didn't fancy having to go all through setting up tomtom again with pocketgps camera database and warning tones.
However I did notice that after switching Tomtom on, it was hit and miss whether my unit found any satellites. By going into the satellite status screen, I could see that the software would access the satellites for a few seconds then lose them again. I also noticed that a fix for this was to run google maps first and turn on gps from there.
This was strange, since my previous HD, locked on within seconds every time. Hardware issue? Maybe, but thought I'd try to remember anything I hadn't done on my new HD that I had on my old.
"Ha-Ha" I thought, I haven't run the connection wizard, and this is sort of a connection issue.
Start --> Settings ---> Connection ----> Connection Set Up-----> Tap O.K. ----> restart
Now TomTom works perfectly and picks up connections immediately without google map initiation.
Try it if you having similar troubles!
cheers,
mooro

For me this must be a placebo, neither do I understand why the connection setup has anything to do with the gps chipset, nor does it work me. I have configured my connection using the connection setup and nevertheless I have some gps drops with iGO.
I think this gps drops have some other background, I will try a new radio version. Some people also said that it might help to change the polling interval, but for me neither an increase nor a decrease of the interval has changed anything about it.

Not a placebo for me, is working perfectly now.

mooro1973 said:
Not a placebo for me, is working perfectly now.
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Nobody has said that placebos don't work, but the reason why they work is controversial. Maybe you have done something else, because I really can't imagine how the connection setup could fix a problem with the gps.
However, its good to know that it runs for you, maybe it will work for me with the new radio also.

How about this theory:
Because you did not do the connection setup yet, the GPS Quickstart had not run yet. So no almanac of GPS satelite data existed yet, meaning it was an icecold start?
And Google Maps worked faster because it is using the 'about' position of the GPS towers to bootstrap the location?

Placebo works only for those that believe in it!
This device is A-GPS capable.
Don't know whether e-plus supports A-GPS services but in theory this might be a clue

I have tried all of the above and still I cannot get GPS to work
If I open google maps it just keeps searching with indicayor showing no satellites.
When using TomTom it displays a number of satellites but all appear grey and none become active
Advice welcome

Fallen Spartan said:
Advice welcome
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It may be too obvious to mention, but: Did you try this outside with a good sky view? Cold start is always a bit more tricky.

Fallen Spartan said:
I have tried all of the above and still I cannot get GPS to work
If I open google maps it just keeps searching with indicayor showing no satellites.
When using TomTom it displays a number of satellites but all appear grey and none become active
Advice welcome
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have you tried start ---> settings ----> external gps --->access---> check manage gps automatically?
and in google maps, options-->gps settings---> toggle auto/windows?

I am fairly sure intermittent gps is a memory problem of some sort. I used to get that a lot running IGO. Now I kill TouchFlo every time before running IGO, and even thought the problems still happens sometimes, it is clearly much less often. You can find the description of how to kill TouchFlo using Mort script in IGO thread. This makes the whole thing clearly better (not perfect).

mooro1973 said:
have you tried start ---> settings ----> external gps --->access---> check manage gps automatically?
and in google maps, options-->gps settings---> toggle auto/windows?
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It may be too obvious to mention, but: Did you try this outside with a good sky view? Cold start is always a bit more tricky.
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Tried both of these.
Yes I can see that satellites are being picked up but both google maps and tomtom don't fix onto any of them. They all just appear grey

Maybe you should try a tool by htc to try and wakeup your gps. Run the file on your HD and from function menu select chip and then q7200. Choose port 4 and baud rate 4800. Then open the port and wait for a gps fix. After that close the port and exit the gps tool. Then run your gps navigator and see if it works!

Hi,
I had issues with GPS and tomtom 7.
I discovered that it was caused by a modification I did to the registry with HD Tweak.
Here is what I did:
going thru the settings with HD Tweak I seen that default value for AGPS was Disabled so I decided to set it to enabled it as I now the phone is capable of it.
After that The GPS would only work once with tomtom, if I closed tomtom and re open it again it GPS would not be found, I had to reboot the phone for it to work again (for an other single use).
I restored the AGPS value to Disable with HD Tweak and everything worked perfectly after.
Though I noticed that tomtom will still use AGPS when GPS sensor is down, but I can say if this is how it used to worked before the registery tweak because I did the tweak immediately after installing tomtom.

I had a similar problem with Advanced Config after I turned on Quick GPS Fix, turning it off seemed to fix it.

michael_r said:
I am fairly sure intermittent gps is a memory problem of some sort.
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I don't think so. My "fix" (as I reported in another thread) is to change baudrate in IGO GPS configuration. After one or few baudrate change, the connection is stable.
No one as reported this fix not working.
So it seem a virtual COM port issue..

rushmpeg said:
Hi,
I had issues with GPS and tomtom 7.
I discovered that it was caused by a modification I did to the registry with HD Tweak.
Here is what I did:
going thru the settings with HD Tweak I seen that default value for AGPS was Disabled so I decided to set it to enabled it as I now the phone is capable of it.
After that The GPS would only work once with tomtom, if I closed tomtom and re open it again it GPS would not be found, I had to reboot the phone for it to work again (for an other single use).
I restored the AGPS value to Disable with HD Tweak and everything worked perfectly after.
Though I noticed that tomtom will still use AGPS when GPS sensor is down, but I can say if this is how it used to worked before the registery tweak because I did the tweak immediately after installing tomtom.
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Yeah !!! Seems to work on my side !! I just spent minutes fighting with my HD this afternoon, still loosing the GPS device... I had to activate one other GPS app to make it work. Now I just changed this setting and it seems to work !!
Thanks for the info ! You're my king

Worked for me by turning off a-gps in HD Tweak and enabling it through the gps app on the rom.

after flashing the 1.10.25.25 radio on my HTC diamond, The GPS signal goes on and off, on and off....continuously on the TomTom GPS status. it was strange, I have to use QuickGPS to download the data again on open air to get the signal on continuously again. If I download the data inside my house, it just go on and off again when I use it on open air.

GPS issues

Now i have Touch HD for about 2 weeks, and my GPS is not working. I tried so much. HTC GPS Tool, TomTom7, iGo8, GPS Test, changing COM Ports, Baudrate and so. But my GPS isn't working. It doesn't found Satelites, and i get no GPS Fix.
Im over with my ideas.
Can someone help me to get the GPS working?
I hope you understand me because I am an Austrian

The first GPS-Fix could take some time.
First I would try this:
connect your Pda to the internet (wifi,...) and download with "quickgps" the local sat-gps-data
then try to connect again with a gps-program.
beware that you must stand outsite, irq is 4. if there's no connection after 15 minutes your settings are broken and it would better to make a hard-reset.
Before installing gps-programs make a backup.
also i would consider to flash an actual rom. the gps works now really much better, also in buildings.
you can use for quick gps testing, i mean without installing an application, mobilemagic. good luck.

I have the current QuickGPS datas and I did 4 hard resets, because i hoped that it would help, but nothing.
I was driving around with my car for about 2 hours but no signal.
And i was testing it with the old Radio Rom 1.09 and the new Radio 1.10. But same issues.

Check to make sure aGPS is turned off and that you are just using GPS.
Also, stand outside without moving when getting a fix. It can take up to 15 minutes as the HD downloads the data from the satellites.
As for settings, using COM Port 4 with baud of 57600 works for me.

I think your description isn't good enough in order to say what is wrong.
The best you can do is to use programs like VisualGPSce or BeeLineGPS.

AGPS is turned off in AdvancedConfig.
VisualGPS and BeeGPS didn't start on my Touch HD
Now i test it with GPSTest and it says "GPS Starting Up" for about 20 minutes

"VisualGPS and BeeGPS didn't start on my Touch HD"
This tells me you have a problem somewhere on your HD, not even gps related (but which does cause also GPS not to work). Have you installend .net 3.5?

Yes .NET Framework 3.5 is installed.
VisualGPSce tells me "Could not initialize communication buffer size"

GPS doesn't run

Hi
I use TomTom6 with my X1, and it did works fine before. Since a view days I didn't got any GPS-Signal at all. Is there anyone who can help?
Thanks for your help.
Regards, Richard

Simple things to try first:
1. Switch off/on
2. Download the latest QuickGPS file
3. Stand outside for several minutes with Tomtom running
Open up the GPS monitor in Tomtom and you should see the bars move up and down as it acquires satellites. If you see that, just be patient until the bars turn blue which means you have a lock. If you see no bars at all, and maybe a message saying 'No GPS', use the configure option to select the built-in receiver.

Had the same problem and even the new QuickGPS load did not work.
I installed the HTC GPS tool and searched for the Satelites with the "Clear Memory" option. Took a bit longer ~15 Min to get the fix, but now it works fine as well in TomTom

try to disable assisted gps

generally it don't work indoors really try outside

GPS not recognized

Hi all,
iGo, Google Maps and Copilot won't detect the GPS chip on my HD2 (GER 1.4x whatever stock ROM, but 2.whatever radio) anymore... in GPS settings in controlpanel, hw port is set to none and sw port to com4, but no software detects a GPS chip at COM4.
Anyone knows how to solve this without a hardreset??
the|m.

In the third tab of the gps settings screen, is 'manage GPS automatically' ticked?
(If it is ticked, then it should work, com 4 and none are correct settings,
if it isn't ticked, try ticking it
Has it ever worked?)

yes, it is ticked, and yes, it has worked before (some weeks ago, though)

I've been having increasing problems in the last week with my HD2 not recognising my GPS (mainly with Copilot). Copilot got to the point it would recognise the GPS maybe once every 20 times I started it, but wouldn't find any satellites.
After a couple of hard resets and stuffing around with various settings, disabling A-GPS seems to have solved the problem. Fingers crossed it will stay fixed.

harddisk_wp said:
yes, it is ticked, and yes, it has worked before (some weeks ago, though)
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Did you install the HTC debug tools ?
The same thing happed to me when I installed it, the GPS back to work after I removed it...
If you didn't install that program, try to think what did you change in your device before the GPS stopped working.
Cheers

liamR said:
Did you install the HTC debug tools ?
The same thing happed to me when I installed it, the GPS back to work after I removed it...
If you didn't install that program, try to think what did you change in your device before the GPS stopped working.
Cheers
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yes, i did install them, removing them and softreset fixed the problem... thanks!

[Q] GPS hot fix technology exist on android??

Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?

Volis said:
Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?
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Search for "gps.config"!

Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data

I am having issues with some builds sometimes to get a fix.
Some android builds make WM GPS not to fix anymore even. The only way to make it work on WM again is to re-flash your radio and not run android again (Android seems to do something to the GPS that makes it stop working on WM).
Perhaps I am wrong but this is my observation.

nuclearfissure said:
Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data
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Yep looks that..

Thanks, it worked very well for me.

I have also raised this question previously.
With GPS's there are two additional technologies that help with speeding up a lock.
The first often known as QuickGPS. Normally when you GPS finally find its first satellite it needs to download a lot of satellite information including where all the other satellites are in relationship. This can take a minute or so and if it is interrupted will need to restart. Thats why you get a quicker lock when stationary versus moving. What QuickGPS does is download this information via the internet and store it locally.
The second is A-GPS. When your GPS starts it is listening trying to find anyone of over 30 satellites. This can take time. Once it find one satellite it then needs to repeat for another 2 before being able to identify where it is and what other satellites are in the area (From Step 1). What A-GPS does is find out where you are via cell sites etc. Once it has an approx location it then refers to the QuickGPS data to then workout what satellites are in the area. In then proceeds to only try to lock on local ones which is a lot quicker.
All the fixes for the HD2 gps relate to updating the NTP server setting in the GPS conf file. The current setting is fine however refers to an american time server. End of the day it is still going to give you a time sync to within a few milliseconds. Refering to a local NTP (Time Server) will give the exact same data.
Waste of time.
I believe the slow GPS lock is due to one of these technogies not working. I suspect it is a-GPS however have yet to confirm either way that the GPD data is being downloaded and saved in the right place.
Hope this helps.

Yes, I thinking primary about the fist option QuickGPS.. I was able on my HD2 wit win get the GPS lock for 7-10 satelelites in let then 30 second.. without that 5-10 minutes, then I thing is very userfull to have it somehow working on android too..