hey is it possible to port iphone os on BA as they have similar specs if its possible i would like to join the team trying to port it
the specs are not that similar, starting of with the display resolution of 320*480, so it would have to be scaled. the iphone cpu is clocked at 620 Mhz, which might be essential to the speed of the os. plus you couldn't get the camera to work, the bluetooth or the wlan. i also doubt the phone would work. and even if all that was avoided. and the system ran, what would be so great about it? without the multi touch support, the accelerometer and stuff like that you wouldn't be able to control the phone properly.
my point is: the hardware is completely different. it wouldn't work out properly. and even if you took a device to port it to, that could actually handle Apple Mac OS X v1.0 (ARM) and have motion sensor, what would be the point, the system is not exactly better than WM, and if you just like the interface, i would recommend a skinpack, s2u2 and other stuff to make it look like an iphone.
i can see that porting it could still be interesting and i would apreciate seeing a project like that, don't get me wrong
Yeah well i do get what you mean btw i was thinking of using some of wm files to make wifi,camera,bluetooth etc to work and i would have the scale the screen size to the ba one and i would find a way to add virtual ram from sd card so the mhz wont be a problem but i need other people to help me such as xplode and the guy who ported wm6 to BA
i want to do this as i have ported android on ba and i really want iphone os to work with an ancient phone like Ba
first i did not ported wm6 to BA, i ported WM 6.1, helmi_c ported WM6
iphone OS i usless as it is, it is linux based so it is possible to run basic on any WM device like they did with android and linux distros
i can not do much because i have not much linux knowledge
ok i will find people with lots of linux knowledge and would u be able to get drivers soft and stuff to add on so it can read the wifi etc
this may helps u
Install linux without any knowledge or Linux PC
go to this web sight: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/
then u have to choose htc blue angel after u must download
Qtopia/ and there is lot but this one is good and new
download all files
after put these files in folder linux in my docoments
ChangeLog
Qtopia-Linux-htcblueangel.exe
and down load the image
QtopiaPhone-image.rootfs.tar.bz2 11-Apr-2008 20:23 32M
and copy it to formated sd card with all the files inside sd install and run the program.
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i see this in a lunix web site may helps u,thnx
Nev2star said:
Yeah well i do get what you mean btw i was thinking of using some of wm files to make wifi,camera,bluetooth etc to work and i would have the scale the screen size to the ba one and i would find a way to add virtual ram from sd card so the mhz wont be a problem but i need other people to help me such as xplode and the guy who ported wm6 to BA
i want to do this as i have ported android on ba and i really want iphone os to work with an ancient phone like Ba
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Wait. Did you port Android to BA??? Any way to let us take it for a test drive? Reviews, screenshots...
You have ported android to the BA?
Do you have an image with touchscreen working?
If so I would love to try it as I have one without sound card (no big deal) but not a working touchscreen.
Are you using haret or flashing jffs2 to rom?
Nev2star said:
Yeah well i do get what you mean btw i was thinking of using some of wm files to make wifi,camera,bluetooth etc to work and i would have the scale the screen size to the ba one and i would find a way to add virtual ram from sd card so the mhz wont be a problem but i need other people to help me such as xplode and the guy who ported wm6 to BA
i want to do this as i have ported android on ba and i really want iphone os to work with an ancient phone like Ba
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massibe drivers rewrite is needed for android to runs as it should be ... i just tryed one image in which the touchscreen did not worked and it was early version
I have tried qtopia on the Blueangel and it looks really nice but wifi
shows as unavailable (and we have an open network here, so encryption is not the problem)
Have you been able to get wifi working on qtopia?
homam_france said:
Install linux without any knowledge or Linux PC
go to this web sight: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/
then u have to choose htc blue angel after u must download
Qtopia/ and there is lot but this one is good and new
download all files
after put these files in folder linux in my docoments
ChangeLog
Qtopia-Linux-htcblueangel.exe
and down load the image
QtopiaPhone-image.rootfs.tar.bz2 11-Apr-2008 20:23 32M
and copy it to formated sd card with all the files inside sd install and run the program.
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i see this in a lunix web site may helps u,thnx
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i did not
hi gloomyboy, i didnot try this copy until now,i dont have any idea about this software, can u give some screen shoots,is it the same to software of i-phone?i will try to install it in future ,thnx.
It is more like android...
why would you want to nothing can beat wm
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We seem all to be waiting for a version to leak of the CE 5.0 for our devices, and at the same time we seem to think that this will not happen due to the fact our providers are going to want to ship it on new devices and not upgrade the old ones.
Well Mwang put me in the mood to do some searching and this is what I found.
Because Windows CE is in components, you can create a custom version of the OS that includes exactly the elements your particular device requires—no more and no less. Using the Windows CE development tool called Platform Builder, you can create a customized version of the OS, called an "image," that you then download onto your device hardware for debugging. If your hardware is not available yet, you can run your image and debug your applications on the included x86 emulator. That allows the end-user application developer and the low-level system software developer to work in parallel on the same project.
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/getstart/bring2market/plan/learn/windowsce/default.aspx
Well it seems that you can download a 120 days trial version which would mean you would have to flash your device in 120 days.
Windows CE Evaluation Version
Windows CE integrates reliable real-time capabilities with advanced Windows technologies to rapidly build a wide range of innovative, small-footprint devices. The evaluation version is a 120-day trial version of Windows CE, valid from the day of installation. The CD and DVD versions include a copy of Microsoft eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 Service Pack 4. The Evaluation Edition (download) requires you to download eMbedded Visual C++ separately.
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/getstart/evaluate/default.aspx
Think this is the homepage
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/windowsce/default.aspx
So what is stopping us ?? Or Cant I read?
Any body in the mood for this??
Downloading now What could go wrong ?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...50-D311-4F67-9FB3-23E8B8944F3E&displaylang=en
Does this work for you gues ?
I tried this a while back.
Its not as easy as it sounds, firstly you have to correctly setup all the drivers for the hardware.
I wouldnt garantee that it has stuff like the phone apps ready to be compiled in either.
lastly, you have to make it into the correct format for the installer prog, I dont know if the package will output a himaupload.exe compatible rom.
Let me know how you guys do though, it would be nice to compile our own OS!
It's installing on my computer :shock: i want it on my PPC
Well I found a 30 min tutorial on the platform builder and it looks like a lot of the stuff is around (Wifi), What we will miss is the camrea app, but hell its a start.
Ps cant find that link anymore, and the posted link works great.
MDAIIIUser said:
Well it seems that you can download a 120 days trial version which would mean you would have to flash your device in 120 days.
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Im sure it's a 120 days from the day you install it on your Desktop PC :?
definatly not as easy as you think!
i had the older version and i made some images for X86 machines (to make them thin clients)
you need every driver for the device that it will be installed on so theres alot more required than just the platform builder,
check it out anyway, its still fun to use and you can make custom CE's for old PII machines (routers, thin clients etc)
Well Bosjo, would that not give you 119 days to post a BA Rom?
@MDAIIIUser
Well i dont know, but Im guessing that the ROM itself will expire 120 after Desktop installation
@bosjo
Well you better hurry up and do good documentation so that I can rebuild your posted rom in 118 days.
@MDAIIIUser
Ha ha ha, well don't get your hopes up, Im just a plumber that bought a BA to save some time and get projects more organized........... Well that what just to be a laughf, this device has eaten every spare second I have had since the day i bought it, and it's still crappy...............
What? You mean you can use it as a phone, thought it was only good for the pocket solitair, how did you do it? and can I read it on wiki?
You see I am True born again MDAIIIUser and
"I haveth faith in thou"
I've pu the windows CE 5.0 installer in the upload folder
Good job you got this , see your pm
Hmmm... well, if someone can create a ROM that won't expire or brick my device, I'm willing to help with testing...
Let me know if you need me...
hehe. Its impossible to create WM2005 from the stuff offered with the trial WinCE 5.0 Platform builder.
Hint: WM5 has version 5.1. PB offers 5.0
im wondering.. where would you get ALL the drivers from? im sure HTC will not be willing to help us here..
@Manich
I truly respect your post and I am very much aware of not having your knowlege, insight, understanding, hacking competence.
That is why I am amember of this forum, to learn from people like yourself in order to try and get the best for my device. To share what I have learnt with others (I use wiki for that).
So please, please share with us a better idea of how we can get 2005 on a BA. It would save me a lot of time searching on the net, uploading sdk that are of no use as well as moving files on the ftp.
A "it cant be done answer" I could accept if it came from somebody else without your knowlege and I remember reading that somebody wrote something along the lines if it can run it can be cracked (smile).
With alll due respect
MDAIIIUser
Generally it cannot be done as you don't have a board support package for BA or other compatible platform. With lots of hacking and reverse engeneering you can write all drivers and all applications absent from Platform Builder (like cprog, SMS client, SIM toolkit, etc), but it would be only a waste of time. It would take as much time and would be as useless as making a Linux for BA. Better buy a device that originally ships with OS you want.
The only hope for getting WM5 on BA is that some person from MS would offer it or someone would get a device with such a ROM. Even a locked device with a signed ROM would help.
Hi
ok heres my idea
we takes a htc hermes and fully wipe all the memory, radio gsmrom and os roms and rewrite the partition table so all we have is a ipl and spl roms left
then we customise a spl for efficiency and to remove the radio functions and any unneeded functions
then we write a new base kernel that is original and lightweight using nesscary drivers from linux source tree if we need them then to create a lightweight enviroment from the ground up with the ablity to run wince applications and linux applications and then my plan is too either turn it into a gaming / video / camera
ok questions
why?
it is mainly to show it can be done
but also i have a htc hermes and htc universal and i always use the universal
so i dont want to use the hermes for phone usage, but it would be good to have a gaming console off of it or video player because it would make the battery last longer and i find that playing games and wtching videos on wince is often slow and jumpy and this way we can access the raw power of the pda
do the experts on these fourms think this is possible?
i know it will be a long and tedious task but i think it will provide a better replacement then linux ontop of windows ce
i do have a fair bit of kernel and bootloader experience and am ok with asm learning ARM shouldnt be too hard, and im a CS student with plenty of free time
so what do you guys think?
i will be making a more detailed specification over the next week this is jsut for opinuon and feed back
Lloyd
lloydsparkes said:
Hi
ok heres my idea...
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I don't think it would work... The full ROM image is in 3 parts, at the very least, the radio ROM itself is stored on the PGA that handles the hardware - so doesn't affect the base OS anyway so nothing to gain by going near that.
I guess, in theory, if you _really_ knew what you were doing you could write yourself a new OS part assuming you'd worked out the hardware addressing for all the bits you would want to use/need to use in your OS.
I think the project to try and get Linux running on Hermes a while ago sorted some of this stuff out...
See this thread and this wiki page
Certainly the wiki page has some extremely useful info should such a kernel rewrite be attempted.
HTH and good luck!
ok kool thanks
i have plenty of spare time so i will research it alot more my only resaon for wnating to touch the radio rom is to get more memory but kool thanks
Is there a way to dual boot your phone and run say WM6.1 and android at the same time?
Never heared. But i like this idea. Hope someone can make this.
...this isnt a mac with bootcamp
guess it could be don with ALOT! of pretty fancy low lvl programming but
the problem would be that pda's have pretty limited os rom space
and their roms use all of it so ½ rom size would mean no programs at all
and it would also mean ½ storage
it would be as useless as the run win98 os on pda's as some threads in this forums talk about
Come to think about is there any posibility
Android - I see a thread, but still work in progress
But how about Mac OS X on Shift
i checked on insanelymac, but still work in progress, perhaps this could be interesting alternative if i may say
OS X on Shift
I've tried to install different versions of OS X (Tiger, Leopard etc) on my shift but the main problem is the screen resolution in setup. The monitor on the Shift is only 800x480 pixels but OS X setup only detects 640x400 (if i remember correctly) and this is not enough to display setup properly. I've also tried different boot parametres to force 800x480 resolution, but without any luck.
Another problem is that the Shift CPU only supports SSE2 and the newer versions of OS X is optimized for SSE3 or better.
If you want to try it for yourself you need an external DVD-ROM and a modified OS X image file (search torrent sites for Kalyway/OSX86 etc.)
Let me know if you find a solution to the resolution problem.
Have you tried installing it when connected to an external monitor?
Regards,
Dave
Yes, I also tried installing it with an external monitor connected. The result was excactly the same. Greyscale and only 640x400 resolution...
I think the problem is that the internal display is detected regardless of if you have an external display connected, and this makes the installation program detect the highest resolution the internal display is capable of displaying.
Check out this forumthread:
Insanelymac
batghost said:
Come to think about is there any posibility
Android - I see a thread, but still work in progress
But how about Mac OS X on Shift
i checked on insanelymac, but still work in progress, perhaps this could be interesting alternative if i may say
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After playing around the only Android phone for now (TMob G1), I found it is not exactly that enticing like having a WinMo device. In the case of WinMo, I could at least develop a lot of stuff easier and faster and the devices are restrictive. What I found in G1 is quite opposite, OS is open and ubiquitos, but the device is closed. A lot of heck is missing like having simple SIP.
HTC and TMob screwed Google and the Android community big time I believe. I love both Windows and Linux. I am totally disappointed with this. I feel Vista is not that restrictive than TMob G1, I know I am comparing wrong platforms here, but thats what I felt after spending good amount of time on G1. It is easy to develop stuff and deploy on Android and far better than iPhone deployment, but the device is restrictive not friendly like WinMo. I don't care for source code, I want to see a open machine like Wintels, and WinMos where I definately can break without bricking.
Thanks
--Ram--
OSX
Well I tried to start up an installation of OS X on my Shift but i failed. Same reason as above. No resolution.
BUT i've found this little neat thread http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=115328 I will try to install OS X on friday with the mentioned patches in the thread.
Will keep you informed if it worked on friday!
carolusx said:
Well I tried to start up an installation of OS X on my Shift but i failed. Same reason as above. No resolution.
BUT i've found this little neat thread http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=115328 I will try to install OS X on friday with the mentioned patches in the thread.
Will keep you informed if it worked on friday!
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Any luck with the install when using the patches?
Nope.
Tried a lot of patches but no luck.
But Im continuing looking around to find a solution.
Do you have some instructions / Information howto is the general installation of Linux on A Windows Mobile ARM processor Side?
You leave the boot loader as is, or linux bring his own Boot loader ?
joy.d said:
Do you have some instructions / Information howto is the general installation of Linux on A Windows Mobile ARM processor Side?
You leave the boot loader as is, or linux bring his own Boot loader ?
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I think we need to have SD-card support in SnapVue side to be able to use Haret and boot linux. There are several threads that are discussing the possibility to install linux on the SnapVue side.
Use the search function...
Wouldn't it be fantastic to have Android running on the Palm treo pro ?
Sweet hardware design
Full keyboard
touch screen
only thing missing
Android
I think the Palm treo pro in combination with Android would really make it a nr1 phone blowing any competition away..
Is this something we can just dream about because its just impossible because of the hardware or would this actually be possible someday?
I would say it's safe to say that it will never happen. It seems that the cooked rom community isn't very huge for this device and the likely hood of an operating system Palm has no interest in supporting making its way on is very slim. Its a safer bet to see some iteration of this device with WebOS in the future.
I don't think Palm will give us a ROM other than WM for the Palm Treo Pro.
But I do hope they will guve us a stable WM6.1 ROM, my Treo 750 was way more stable than the Palm Treo Pro
So much negativity - it's definitely doable, I've been running android on my ATT Tilt for a while now. The Treo Pro is just starting to get released by carriers at subsidized prices, which will make it a much more attractive phone to larger numbers in the future. I think it's possible to see a port of android on this phone, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Call it negativity. I would call it experience
Why get steamed about android
I'm hoping Palm release a web OS upgrade - now that would be way cooler than manky old android
please add a question mark on yr title!
well now that hardspl has been released isn't this much more of a reality?
Considering the HTC Touch has the same processor as the Treo Pro ... It is definitely doable.
Can someone try that :
Download http://www.cobaltcode.com/fileupload/data/Android/BuildUpdates/build-update_donut-1.6_22-11-09.7z
Extract it to the root of the sdcard (or internal storage, or whatever, I don't really know this treo pro device.), copy startups/diamond.txt to startup.txt
Edit startup.txt, change mtype to 2426
Dowload http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/t...sm-android/zImage-modules-20091129_134747.tar
Extract it, copy zImage.xxxxx as zImage in the root of the sdcard (this should overwrite the older one).
And then run haret.exe
If I did it correctly, android should start.
phhusson said:
Can someone try that :
Download http://www.cobaltcode.com/fileupload/data/Android/BuildUpdates/build-update_donut-1.6_22-11-09.7z
Extract it to the root of the sdcard (or internal storage, or whatever, I don't really know this treo pro device.), copy startups/diamond.txt to startup.txt
Edit startup.txt, change mtype to 2426
Dowload http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/t...sm-android/zImage-modules-20091129_134747.tar
Extract it, copy zImage.xxxxx as zImage in the root of the sdcard (this should overwrite the older one).
And then run haret.exe
If I did it correctly, android should start.
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Sorry, I cant find startups/diamond.txt in these files.
Can you upload the haret.exe and startups/diamond.txt to the forum?
I dont know which version of the haret works on treo pro
phhusson said:
Can someone try that :
Download http://www.cobaltcode.com/fileupload/data/Android/BuildUpdates/build-update_donut-1.6_22-11-09.7z
Extract it to the root of the sdcard (or internal storage, or whatever, I don't really know this treo pro device.), copy startups/diamond.txt to startup.txt
Edit startup.txt, change mtype to 2426
Dowload http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/t...sm-android/zImage-modules-20091129_134747.tar
Extract it, copy zImage.xxxxx as zImage in the root of the sdcard (this should overwrite the older one).
And then run haret.exe
If I did it correctly, android should start.
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I've followed along, using Android-Donut-htclinux-15-11-09:
I extracted each accordingly, and changed mtype.
Using haret-matbeez from http://www.netripper.com/leo/haret-matbeez.exe
Now when haret is ran, it displays 'Loading Linux', and after it vibrates, it simply just resets the device.
I am continuing to tinker, incase I'm misplacing files and such. I'll report back if there is any change.
acidhax said:
I am continuing to tinker, incase I'm misplacing files and such. I'll report back if there is any change.
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Don't, many(well two other people) reported the same. I'll try to fix that.
That's great phhusson ! I hope you'll be able to give us a good Android release soon...
I'll be happy to try test builds on my Treo Pro as well
phhusson said:
Don't, many(well two other people) reported the same. I'll try to fix that.
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will it work now?
If this helps here is my logs from trying to boot it using two versions of harret and fidgeting with fbduring boot. I using Android-Donut-htclinux-15-11-09 with the zimage that was posted on here. If there anything i could test or fidget with i would appreciate helping. I am a linux user but am new to the windows mobile side of all this.
Palm Treo Pro I have used for a long time, it's the business phone. You can check work and personal email, stay on top of appoinment and contacts, and access Wifi or GPS. With a large color touchscreen, full keyboard, and Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional Edition, you can download, view, and edit Word -and Excel-compatible files. you can multi-task at the speed of 3G mobile wireless broadband. Listen to music or watch a video with Windows Media Player Mobile on your sweet baby
whats your point stacey?
Is anyone still working on this? I'm very interested...