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I've read some earlier msg. regarding Resco Keyboard Pro apparently clashing with something on the TyTN. Has anybody been able to get this utility to work consistently? I have the latest version, released after I reported this problem to Resco some weeks ago and they told me this release, 4.35, solves it. After installing RKB is seems to work OK but within hours it stops working and only the standard WM5 virtual keyboard will popup -- RKB will not even operate.
I am currently using it, and it works fine. I had sometime the default keyboard that poped out when I softreseted my phone, but it didnt happend for a long time by now
please search the forum : keyword 'resco' or 'sipchange' without quote. t.q.
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I am currently using it, and it works fine. I had sometime the default keyboard that poped out when I softreseted my phone, but it didnt happend for a long time by now
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Same here, sometimes after a soft reset it won't be enabled, one time it wouldn't start, and I had to softreset to get it to work, other than that it seems to be ok....the only times I notice it not being enabled is mainly when I have been installing or removin software
please search the forum : keyword 'resco' or 'sipchange' without quote. t.q.
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read his other post and the first line of this one...he is aware of the search function...just be helpful or "please" stfu
I've disabled the standard keyboard and Symbols right after installed Resco with SK Tools. Now I have Resco Keyboard and Paragon PenReader as SIPs and have no a problem so far. But I did have problems with the standard and Symbols.
Excuse my ignorance but why would you need virtual keyboard when you have hardware keyboard with TyTN?
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Excuse my ignorance but why would you need virtual keyboard when you have hardware keyboard with TyTN?
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Honestly before I got my tytn, and it being my first pda I thought I would always use the hardware keyboard, at first it was all I used, but I have a problem with the tops of my T and Y keys being scuffed by sliding the unit open..so I started using the sip keyboard and just got where I liked it better, also I got where I liked the portrait mode more also, I can use the scroll wheel easier and such...its just kinda grown on me I suppose.
I still use the hardware keyboard when I do my postings on here, just because I can punch it out faster, but I don't like it better...my thumbs are a bit big and I have to use my nails..and they tend to slide to the side of the keys cause they are bubble shaped...it would be nicer if the tops were concave, but when I do any googling or such its just a whole lot easier to type a couple words with the sip keyboard in the search box than to slide the unit open, plus even if your keys don't scuff like mine..you are creating wear, its just a normal occurrence when you have friction.
I'm sure other people have their reasons, those are just mine.
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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even the hardware keyboard isn't that good compare to Universal, i still find it quicker compare to the soft keyboard.
Does anybody know anything technical about the KB? It should be possible to make our own keyboards for the Athena if we can just find out a little about it.
Imagine a small clip on adaptor that sticks to the bottom and has a PS2 socket on it
I've considered making a magnetic ribbon cable for "detached" use. Where you hold the keyboard in your hand and it's connected to the Athena via a magnetic cable that attached to the two components. Not sure if this would be worth anything to anyone out there but it should be VERY easy to make.
I also wondered if there was support for a docking station like use, with charger and keyboard plugged in, so you pop the athena into it and it charges as well as connects the KB.
You dont suppose the kb is actualy just USB do you?
I think some kind of slide down qwerty keyboard similar to the hermes / spv m3100 would be great. That way the keyboard could clip on the back of the Ameo and then the keyboard could slide out? if you get me?
The magnetic keyboards great if your at home, or in the office, but out and about its not practical.
I do agree that the software keyboards pretty good with large keys, thats what i use.
Yes, a slide out KB could easily be incorperated into a clip on protective case. In fact, you wouldnt need a new bk. Just mount the existing one into the slide part of the case, where the case would have a ribbon cable to make the connections.
There is a HUGE market for third party KB mods for the Athena, HTC really missed a trick here by not having some alternate kbs ready at launch.
For example, why doesnt the Dock have a KB? or a KB socket? Jeez, its not hard to put a ps2 socket in the dock, or a slot to put the normal Athena KB into it!
How about a large full size KB with Athena connector in it...
have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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Do you mean TenGo??? Dude you had me searching the wrong thing on Google because I didn't want to be lazy and ask for a link. LOL
Check spelling bro.
Here's a link for those that want to look into his suggestion
http://www.tengo.net/4100/tengokeybd_sipintro.html
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have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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Hi eaglesteve.
Do you have a link to this software or developer info etc please? can't seem to find anything when googling for it.
Cheers.
No worries found it. Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_pocketpc.html
ID64 said:
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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Tere Igor
Have you tried any of the soft keyboard options out there?
TenGo is not as intuitive as it appears, but is smart software.
OK just given the TenGo SIP a good run for it's money tonight. It is a very nice lookin application that has real potential.....BUT....the learning curve is a major drawback IMHO and not worth the time to learn. Why do I say that?
Firstly, I/we use QWERTY keyboards of one type or another every day and wether it's afull sized USB PC keyboard or a slide-out PPC keboard or SIP based, the QWERTY principle really has left an intuitive mark on me at least over the years and learning a new system does not make much sense to me if it is not going to be everywhere....just on my Ameo.
2ndly, I have no time to keep checking if the predictive text has recognised the word I intended for it to type. I mean if you don't check what you're typing regularly, then by the time you've reached the end of your document/txt, you'll struggle to make sense of what you have typed yourself!
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
Verdict? Perfect for those who write perfect english all the time and have the time to learn and train a new system,....BUT useless for those who already know what they want to type and just want it done quickly without spell checking every word as they type. It is very smart software indeed, but not natural or smart enough for the human mind. Gimme a larger SIP panel instead.
Not for me, but thanks for the heads-up.
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3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
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Same for me but for me it's the fact that I regularly communicate in a number of languages.
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OK just given the TenGo SIP a good run for it's money tonight. It is a very nice lookin application that has real potential.....BUT....the learning curve is a major drawback IMHO and not worth the time to learn. Why do I say that?
Firstly, I/we use QWERTY keyboards of one type or another every day and wether it's afull sized USB PC keyboard or a slide-out PPC keboard or SIP based, the QWERTY principle really has left an intuitive mark on me at least over the years and learning a new system does not make much sense to me if it is not going to be everywhere....just on my Ameo.
2ndly, I have no time to keep checking if the predictive text has recognised the word I intended for it to type. I mean if you don't check what you're typing regularly, then by the time you've reached the end of your document/txt, you'll struggle to make sense of what you have typed yourself!
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
Verdict? Perfect for those who write perfect english all the time and have the time to learn and train a new system,....BUT useless for those who already know what they want to type and just want it done quickly without spell checking every word as they type. It is very smart software indeed, but not natural or smart enough for the human mind. Gimme a larger SIP panel instead.
Not for me, but thanks for the heads-up.
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Ha ha, that was my first reaction too. So I almost passed it up initially without giving it a fair chance.
This are the facts:
1. You have not given up your qwert keyboard. It is still functioning 100% as one. If you choose to press the precise position of each individual 26 keys, what u type on is also one of the words that can b selected. Therefore you can still use slang such as lol, gtg,brb,etc. C how I can intentionally use shortened words on this post?
2. It is to b thought is as a very forgiving qwert keyboard, because of the built-in intelligence. You can type in the exact spelling of your words, not just limited to the words in the dictionary.becausr while it tries to predict what you want to type, what you actually type also appears as one of the choices. Now you see why slang is not a problem?
3. the system is actually very smart in selecting the default hint word out of all the suggested ones. The default choice is the underlined and first hint word. You don't need to do anything in order to select it other than the space bar ( which u hve 2 anyway w normal qwert keyboard) The only difference is u need not be precise in typing. U merely hve 2 touch the correct keygroup. U got it?
I thnk u r really going 2 like it once u go thru the 3 min tutorial. THERE IS ALMOST NO LEARNING CURVE!
JUST WATCH YOUR TYPING SPEED FLIES!
btw, there is a known problem with tengo installation. You may have problem selecting this as the default sip, or even selecting it.
i'll find the thread later and post it here.
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btw, there is a known problem with tengo installation. You may have problem selecting this as the default sip, or even selecting it.
i'll find the thread later and post it here.
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Installation problems aside, I agree that one can write a very nifty speeds and that the learning curve can appear to be low. My point was that it is not natural, certainly not to me.
I see your point about being able to use slang, but as it will not be the default word selected, you have to select it yourself each time you use it or teach the database a new word (slang) in order for it to recognise it in the future.
If it works well for you eaglesteve that's great and I wish I was as capable at adapting as you are, but for me and possibly for others, I'm looking for a SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly. I know you know what I mean.
However as your experience has taught you, maybe one evenings worth of testing is not enough for me to dismiss it so easily. But then I have kept it installed for further testing alongside my usual SIP methods.
Thanks again for the heads up though.
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No worries found it. Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_pocketpc.html
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go here for free tengo:
http://free.tengo.net/
Go here for commercial versions"
www.tengo.net
It supports vga
You may use it exactly the same way as your old qwert board is you go choose.
But then,you'll right away realise that there is a much easier way....quicker... More flexible..enjoy.
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I see your point about being able to use slang, but as it will not be the default word selected, you have to select it yourself each time you use it or teach the database a new word (slang) in order for it to recognise it in the future.
I'm looking for a SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly. I know you know what I mean.
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You don't have to teach the dictionary that the slang is a valid word. when you use it the first time, there will be an audio warning. But if you used it once, it automatically gets into the dictionary, and become just another normal word the next time you type it
Funny it is exactly because I want an SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly that I think tengo is the answer.
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Hi eaglesteve.
Do you have a link to this software or developer info etc please? can't seem to find anything when googling for it.
Cheers.
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http://www.tengo.net/
Download link
http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
TouchPal3.5 Overview Video:
http://www.cootek.com/intro.aspx
The best input method.
Thanks for the heads up on this - I'm a registered user, but I never seem to get the email updates. Do they actually send them?
I'm liking this version so far. It looks nicer and has handy little features. The "More" button on word suggestions was badly needed.
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Thanks for the heads up on this - I'm a registered user, but I never seem to get the email updates. Do they actually send them?
I'm liking this version so far. It looks nicer and has handy little features. The "More" button on word suggestions was badly needed.
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TouchPal v3.5 released today..
You can go to below link download new version free update:
http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
The download I got was for 3.1 version. They need to fix that. Can anyone post the cab for 3.5 please?
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The download I got was for 3.1 version. They need to fix that. Can anyone post the cab for 3.5 please?
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same problem here. thats kinda okay, cause i had 3.0 before that so its still an upgrade...but you know.
just downloaded, wonder have they made a black skin for this yet
here is the cab file for 3.5
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here is the cab file for 3.5
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Downloaded this and version says v3.1.1008
looks fantastic , gr8 work
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Downloaded this and version says v3.1.1008
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A mistake from Cootek.
It is version 3.5 when you look inside the program when keyboard pops up (click on Option tab, then "?" icon=>Check version info.
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A mistake from Cootek.
It is version 3.5 when you look inside the program when keyboard pops up (click on Option tab, then "?" icon=>Check version info.
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Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the hint
Nah, don't use this one, it makes my device run slow (I have an Axim at 600Mhz and with touchpal runs like 200MHz).
Better try FTPRO from www.fingertouchpro.com , it's fast , cool and has more options. For me it's the best software keyboard.
LOVE TOUCHPAL - but when i type "its" my Orbit soft resets !!!!!!
Have no problem using TouchPal on my Cruise, which runs on 400Mhz chipset.
The 'Its' bug has been fixed. Redownload the latest installation file from Cootek website.
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LOVE TOUCHPAL - but when i type "its" my Orbit soft resets !!!!!!
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Ouch... nasty one
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Ouch... nasty one
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Yea. Good job it's been fixed ey!
i downloaded the latest version that chinese chicken posted, and it still reboots my phone when i type its!
Thank you so Much !!
from where please i can get arabic language Someone point please!!!!
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i downloaded the latest version that chinese chicken posted, and it still reboots my phone when i type its!
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is that so? did you download the official release? or something someone else posted? because I've been using TouchPal since version 2 and all the bugs have been ironed out. I have caught 3 of the bugs myself and they were fixed within 24hours.
TouchPal is my main sip, I use it at least once every 30mins while I'm awake. 3 times I've used it to write 5 page essays on my mobile. it's capable and fast once you get the hang of it. yes, there is a learning curve but it shouldn't take too long to get it.
to get the hang of it I'd say the best way is to open notes/word/textmaker or whichever is your favorite and type random words that comes to mind. it's the same layout as on a computer keyboard. so it shouldn't be too hard to understand where each key is located, plus you don't have to press the actual letters of the word you're trying to write, pressing the ones beside it will work just fine. its text prediction is really good, you can turn off the text prediction if you don't want it.
however, the text prediction is pretty good at saving typing the time it takes to type words.
eg: typing the word "circumstance", all I have to type is "circu" and it shows up in the word candidates.
lol, it's word association is good too, if it type word "nasty" it will show "masturbation" in the word candidates, lol. it sure saves me typing time when searching for these kind of videos in WVD lol.
get the file from www.CooTek.com and remember to select the download for the os you're using.
have fun
This looks pretty sweet. I will try it out in a few minutes.
Does anyone know about this ..looks like a cool app...ordering it right now
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...&deviceId=2062&platformId=30&productId=239378
wow looks awsome, ill try the trial
looks neat - the question is how to enable/disable it without it interfering with the normal features of the phone...
basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
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basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
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It's using the touch panel though- the capacitive part of the screen...not the main screen itself.
Ok, I bought the app, but the installer doesn't work on Vista, can anyone please provide me with a .cab for this? Thanks!
its in program files or the directory you saved it in. so im installing right now, well tell you what I think of it very soon!
might hsve been just the way my settings were but when I used this it did not seem one bit functional, I advise you to try the trial first. I uninstalled it slmost immediately. Just ststing mu experiences yours may be different
Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
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Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
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Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy. Removing the attachment from here and please refrain from re-attachment else its bansville
Its like XDA needing registration to post something in here
Hey
I just tested the app.
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
But I like the feature to assign Applications to the Buttons.
So You have the 4 buttons ( home, back, call, end ), and
you can assign 4 Apps to its touchpanel.
So we can map a Taskmanager to a Button.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
greets doena
I attached the trial .cab file for everyone (without windows, .NET, etc) to try...
For me the program works good. The scrolling feature will help a lot of us, who can't easily find the directional buttons...
I HAVE POSTED A WARNING JUST 2 POSTS ABOVE YOURS. IF ANYONE CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS PM ME AND I'LL EXPLAIN. DO NOT POST THE CAB FILES HERE, HANDANGO DOESNT NEED XDA TO ACT LIKE MIRRORS. NEXT ATTACHMENT HERE WILL SEND THIS THREAD TO CLOSURE AND NON OBEYING MEMBER TO BANSVILLE
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Hey
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
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Yes, the scrolling through G-Sensor is not the best experience in my opinion too. I tested this in TotalCommander and contacts list. It's too slow for me.
But the swipe scroll works quite fine. It's like a whole page down every swipe.
Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy
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Understood. Thanks and sorry!
It works fine for me, but it doesn't work for games (I tested it with Gstunt).... Maybe future releases will solve the problem...
I tried it for the 2 minutes it was worth. The scrolling is really just one movement up or down at a time...not really kinetic scrolling. It was a little tricky to get it on and off also (waiting to feel the vibration of it comin to life). I may buy it though...for the price I'll play with it...it does keep your figners off of the screen.
I played with the demo this morning instead of doing work.
Not bad with the scrolling, although it does not recognize 100% of the finger swipes. I couldn't get tap and tilt to work at all. And the slide over the center key was glitchy.
What I really would prefer is an app that will scroll up and down just by me tapping, but not clicking, the screen. It seems Gscroll could add that feature pretty easily.
The demo cab is available at the programmer's website, so it is neither "warez" nor is there any need to post it here. The website is www.mobilesrc.com.
Similar issues for me...
For the money, it's a reasonable piece of software, but useablility... it's not that good in my opinion. As mentioned above, it's far too slow. One 'swipe' moves one item in the list. It needs to be kinetic like a finger swipe on the screen. And it's not that responsive to touch. Sometimes it'll respond OK, other times it ignores my touch on the pad.
Great idea... needs a little more work
^is this guy for real, or what?
didn't he see the 2 posts from the mod in this thread?
well, look like the thread will be closing soon.
Is it possible to change the list of alternative offerings provided when you press and hold the .com button when typing in a web address in Opera? The current offerings .com, .net, .org and .gov I am sure are perfect if you're american but I would like to add (or replace a .gov) with a .co.uk?
I would like to be able to change this too. As you say, .co.uk would be useful to have.
I've done a search through the registry, and the entries don't appear to be controlled from there. I'm guessing this means they are hard coded into the keyboard binaries.
Bagpuss.
you can try to install FingerKeyboard, or Pocket Pal... these keyboards ale very good, and you can customize shortcuts.
Thanks for the suggestion but I am quite happy with the HTC keyboard - I guess I shall have to continue pressing.com then backspace.uk.
Thanks for the suggestion but I am quite happy with the HTC keyboard - I guess I shall have to continue pressing.com then backspace.uk.
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you can try to install FingerKeyboard, or Pocket Pal... these keyboards ale very good, and you can customize shortcuts.
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would you be so kind to tell me where I cab find Pocket Pal? Google did not help me very much. Thanks in advance.
I would also like to be able to change .gov or . net to a different extension (.be) without changing htc native keyboard. Anybody has any ideas? There is already a cab in Hints & Tips thread to add euro sign next to dollar sign in keyboard, so this should also be possible?.
.gov to .be
I cannot believe that no one of you out there can come up with any solution? Anybody???