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I'm a little bit inclined to post this here instead on the news section since it's related directly to our device, but here goes:
Laptop Magazine is running a March Madness smartphone play-off, and the current contest pits the HTC HD2 against Palm Pre.
Palm Pre is currently in the lead with 5211 votes vs HD2 at 3619 votes as of 5:59PM CST. Votes are open till 9 a.m. EST tomorrow, April 1st, and of course the big question is whether you would wanna see your beloved HD2 gets knocked out by the uhhh, Palm Pre...?
I'm pretty sure if we can mobilize half of the ppl here at xda to vote we'll be able to knock out the race, so spread the news and vote!
http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2
*Oops sorry didn't mean to clutter the forum, I didn't realize there's been another thread for this. Mod please delete as necessary. Thanks.*
Don't know if anyone has seen this but there is a huge poll going on between the last 4 PDA smart phones in Laptop Magazines contest to find the best PDA. The semi final and current poll is between the Palm Pre and the HD2. If interested head on over to http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 and vote. If you wish you can also enter your comments (the debate is very active). No logons are required to post.
This is about the 3rd post on it today...
EddyOS said:
This is about the 3rd post on it today...
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Good thing I searched first or I would have made it 4.
One hour left to vote!
Well, 1 post was directly below this one at the time of me posting!!
My apologies, for once I didn't check before posting
AHHHHH!
The Palm Pre is currently winning!
Come on HD2 owners. Unite!
The gap has closed dramartically, less than 300 votes difference
Thanks to everyone that voted.
As for the 6 that voted No, have fun with your new EVO or Nexus One. I'm sure the $300-$400 is going to buy a great phone, but I'm going to hold off on it for a while.
Looks like we will have our own forum and sub-forums after the weekend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6206357&postcount=899
We fought for this a long while ago... And I have suggested many times... I don't think it will happen as much as this sub-forum needs it..
*edit.. When I refreshed it was there..
Absolutely, positively yes.
The GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are completely different phones. More different, at least that the Sprint Hero and the Verizon Droid Eris. (In fact, if there was ever a reason to put two phones in the same forum, it would be the Sprint Hero and the Eris. They're the same damn thing with different colored plastic...)
Sprint may not be the biggest carrier, but they're still not small. The Sprint Hero deserves the same treatment as any other phone....
Yes Yes Yes ...
No joke. The stupidist phones have their own forum. Why cant the CDMA Hero?
For instance:
The HTC Wallaby...Seriously?? ROFL
HTC Universal: Look how lame it looks...
HTC Apache: It barely has 250 threads.
HTC Charmer: Barely has 200 threads.
Palm Treo: Has two forums dedicated to their pile of **** phones. Really now?
HTC Athena: Lame
And that folks is just the tip of the iceberg. The CDMA Hero has more threads than the G2. LOL
Yes and a mod or two. I sent in a request for this yesterday.
its not even just a want at this point, its more like a need.
I mean as much activity that this single forum gets daily is cause alone for us to have our own portal
About time. This saves me two clicks...
Yeah lets go on strike...
Awww ****... no one needs us..
Oh well we really do need this, i hope they look at the stats soon, We have probably close to the highest posts and threads made a day.
totally agree we need this, not only would it help organize everything but then there would be the general discution section where people can post thier random stuff and not get 6 lame threads saying "stop with the lame threads" as far as potential mods go my votes go to toast and obilisk
we needed this a long time ago
Guys, there is a place to ask for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=89
I posted just a day or so ago and even offered to donate for their time and effort to make this happen.
Maybe.....IF you posted your thoughts in that thread they would take a look.
It is after all a thread/area where they say to post and they'll answer you maybe?
Thanks,
Bubba.
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Guys, there is a place to ask for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=89
I posted just a day or so ago and even offered to donate for their time and effort to make this happen.
Maybe.....IF you posted your thoughts in that thread they would take a look.
It is after all a thread/area where they say to post and they'll answer you maybe?
Thanks,
Bubba.
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I don't know that I would have offered them 50.00.
And in fact it's NOT hard to create subsections for this. This bulletin board software is fairly standard. Probably take 10 minutes to create stuff. Getting the mods to move threads around would take a while, sure, but the subfora would be ready and usable in the meantime.
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Who are the two ppl who said NO ?? They are certainly now owning a HTC Sprint Hero i believe
I agree. The subforum was a good idea when the GSM Hero had just been released and a CDMA version was still just a rumor, but now it is really its' own device with its' own community. We have no use for any of the GSM forums, all we have is this one dinky forum that expands at a collossal rate every day.
Re: Should xda give us our own portal? I'm sending over to Admins
No joke. The stupidist phones have their own forum. Why cant the CDMA Hero?
For instance:
The HTC Wallaby...Seriously?? ROFL
HTC Universal: Look how lame it looks...
HTC Apache: It barely has 250 threads.
HTC Charmer: Barely has 200 threads.
Palm Treo: Has two forums dedicated to their pile of **** phones. Really now?
HTC Athena: Lame
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You should understand that phones such as the Wallaby and Apache(although not the XDA line) are some of the original HTC phones and those forums are what started XDA. The Apache was HTCs first major entry into the US CDMA market. XDA-developers has historically been for GSM phones(ie,XDA's) with CDMA hacking based over at ppcgeeks.com. Threads for the Apache are in the thousands there.
Only since the CDMA hero has there been real active dominant development of any cdma phone done here....
it would be nice to just separate the general talk from the dev talk... I used to think this was a dev forum and everything else should go in hero general talk, the general user base reminds me otherwise on a daily basis.
Lord help you if you actually suggest a topic be moved, people start accusing you of acting like a self proclaimed mod. I've pretty much given up posting in this section because of it.
LOL. Seriously??? The EVO is coming out this summer and 25% of the hero community will be leaving immediately and then another 25% will leave for it in 6 months after that!
MODS, this subforum is just fine.
This post is up for discussion
Regarding the "HTC Vision" T-Mobile G2 & the "HTC Vision" HTC Desire Z, right now each one has its own separate subforum
We are talking about the same phone (with slight brand and band differences) over two different subforums. ROMs would be different, but the hardware is the same
DISCUSSION:
- Should the "HTC Vision" G2 & "HTC Vision" Desire Z's subforums better get merged ?
- Could there be more collaboration and cross-information in such case ??
- Have we previously had a symilar experience with another HTC device ??
- Or is it better to keep both phones' android development appart, over separated subforums ??
(and separate other future "HTC Vision" variants too, like the upcomming HTC Vision for Verizon, the ADR6325 aka HTC Merge/Lexikon)
- What's best for development / ROM cooking purposes ??
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Absolutely agree. There are many other forums on XDA-Dev where different national and/or carrier variants of the same phone have been grouped together, and this would seem an obvious choice to do the same. Keep the thumbnail from the Desire Z link though, as this is the generic version of the phone and also as the pic shows the keyboard slid out.
I think the name "Vision" is obsolete now anyway isn't it? The official HTC name is now the Desire Z, and the US name for that phone is, at present on one carrier only of course, the T-Mobile G2.
Andre
andrewilley said:
Absolutely agree. There are many other forums on XDA-Dev where different national and/or carrier variants of the same phone have been grouped together, and this would seem an obvious choice to do the same. Keep the thumbnail from the Desire Z link though, as this is the generic version of the phone and also as the pic shows the keyboard slid out.
I think the name "Vision" is obsolete now anyway isn't it? The official HTC name is now the Desire Z, and the US name for that phone is, at present on one carrier only of course, the T-Mobile G2.
Andre
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"Vision" is not obsolete, even official ROMs seem to be labeled as "RUU Vision HTC WWE etc..."
Some users @ G2 forums are reporting flashing the Desire Z ROM into the G2
EDIT: up to date only one user
and in the Desire Z forums some users are following the G2's root process
Time will tell for sure, but looks like they are the same phone,
just different radios and badges
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Should add a poll option. I'm for the merger.
By TOTAL coincidence I PMed one of the mods last night about this same topic.
I believe his/her intention was to bring it up with the other moderators to see what the deal is, since the G2 and the Z so far as we know only have very slight differences:
Frequency Bands
ROM size
this would fall under the same situation as other devices such as the fuze/touch pro (aka Raphael) (yes I know ROM wasnt different sizes).
If there were serious differences that would cause ROM incompatabilities then sure
"Desire Z Android Development" and "G2 Android Development" sub-fora would do the trick????
But as a device family they are still both a HTC Vision.
There @ G2's fora, by now, seems only one person has reported cross-flashing
I don't have a D-Z or G2 to confirm /deny, so
I am eagerly following the G2 forums (and the desire Z's release date ) for more evidence
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Should add a poll option. I'm for the merger.
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I had the same idea initially,
but no poll is required if the hardware is the same
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Our stance in a case like this where there is a USA variant of a phone that is nearly identical to the Euro-spec phone is to still have separate forums. This leads to the least amount of confusion. What would happen (and we've tried this for other devices in the past) is that some people will post their G2 questions (usually T-Mobile specific) in the Desire Z forum, thus requiring the moderators to constantly migrate posts. Also, G2 ROMs won't work on the Desire Z.
For now, we'll keep them separate. If anyone has a major disagreement (now or in the future), please send me a PM.
Well, IMHO it's a good decision to have separate sections.
See TMOUS HD2 and Europe HD2.
Shouldn't it be one general and two development then?
Like X10 Mini and X10 Mini Pro.
Yeah, one general and two development sections would be good, but as svetius said, think of it: having operator-specific questions for G2 on DesireZ sections wouldn't be so good.
Desire Z is starting to ship. Let's wait a few weeks to see the level of development there is for each device. If needed, we will merge.
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Yeah, one general and two development sections would be good, but as svetius said, think of it: having operator-specific questions for G2 on DesireZ sections wouldn't be so good.
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so... are we going to have yet another forum for BELL users only ??
hmmm...
as svetius stated,
let's see what happens when more of us get our D-Zs,
but lets not close the possibility
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Ponder this for a minute.
The G2 and Desire Z (although not yet in circulation) are very popular devices. By keeping separate forums for each device, your chances of finding accurate information increases, and helps the mods keep the forums cleaner. If the two were combined, I guarantee you that we would receive even more complaints about "noobs" posting in the dev section and creating new threads to ask questions that have already been answered. By keeping separate forums it makes my job keeping Desire Z clean (weeding out these complaints and stopping them from happening) and CaptainKrtek to keep G2 clean.
With that said, would you rather have easy navigation and a clean fora, or would you rather have the two combined, which IMHO, really holds no purpose?
I partially agree with you TheROMMistress,
but as a user, I currently have to keep track of BOTH forums, which already duplicates the weed so I really dunno what to do, what's better
G2 fora is lightyears ahead from us, they've had their G2s for weeks now, and they have progressed a lot on commonly asked Qs (hinges, root, deleting sys files, etc)
The point here is (and I don't have the answer):
Would development benefit from joining efforts between G2 and standard D-Z users ??
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I partially agree with you TheROMMistress,
but as a user, I currently have to keep track of BOTH forums, which already duplicates the weed so I really dunno what to do, what's better
G2 fora is lightyears ahead from us, they've had their G2s for weeks now, and they have progressed a lot on commonly asked Qs (hinges, root, deleting sys files, etc)
The point here is (and I don't have the answer):
Would development benefit from joining efforts between G2 and standard D-Z users ??
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Yes, I understand they have already made breakthroughs on the G2, but what would be easier for an up-and-coming DZ owner? Weed through all the items in G2 fora or have a fresh start with a relatively new fora? Trust me, Devs will not limit themselves to the DZ fora for info. If there is something out there, they will find it, and incorporate it in DZ forum, you just have to give it some time. In the mean time, SEARCH IS YOUR FRIEND
Thank you, Supreme Commander
I am sure Mods and Admins will take the best decission for users and devs
In the meant time, my provider has confirmed they are shipping my D-Z today
gtrab said:
Thank you, Supreme Commander
I am sure Mods and Admins will take the best decission for users and devs
In the meant time, my provider has confirmed they are shipping my D-Z today
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Lol, Damn Skippy! Congrats
I definitely support the merger (no good ever came to the Galaxy S phones from having 84934529 separate forums) but give it one-two weeks for all the early adopter hysteria to settle down.
Pickx said:
I definitely support the merger (no good ever came to the Galaxy S phones from having 84934529 separate forums) but give it one-two weeks for all the early adopter hysteria to settle down.
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It certainly holds its purpose for the HD2.
I can't see the benefit in keeping things separate. As gtrab said, I too am now keeping track on both sets of forums. Pretty much everything over in ROM development for the G2 is relevant to the DZ. There is going to be an awful lot of duplication over the coming weeks. Either that, or the DZ forums will be quiet with more and more people going over to the G2 side. But if DZ stuff is asked about over on G2, I presume that'll be off-topic. Seems like a mess to me.
I can understand the idea of waiting and seeing how it goes though, just wish the decision was otherwise.
Head over to the CyanogenMod forums and vote for the Epic 4G so we know just how many people are anxiously awaiting CM6.1.
Someone started a similar thread in the Captivate forum here, and now the Captivate votes are seriously out of proportion, so I'm rectifying that by posting here and in the other Galaxy S forums so we can have accurate representation for all models. Follow this link to vote.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/7835-what-galaxy-s-do-you-have/
Wow. I picked up this phone knowing there wasn't a very large development community. It looks like there's practically no community at all!
I don't think its that bad for around a month and a half
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
wow this isnt looking too good
Not looking good for CM6.1 but the other 4-5 ROMs that are out are not bad and the phone itself has only been out 1 1/2 months. Of course, though, it has a long way to go before it reaches Evo's level of dev. support.
if you actually read the thread, cirwl a mod there said that the order of releases is as follows
1) Vibrant & Epic 4g
2) Kernel Port for Captivate Suppport
3) Kernel Port for I9000 support
4) ???????
much of this thanks to noobnl
I keep standing up, hell Ive even been walking.
Of course there is people waiting for cyanogen mod, there are people waiting who dont even know they are waiting. The phone has been out less than 1 month and 1/2.
Vote cast! Anxiously awaiting
I'm pretty happy so far with the Modding community for the epic considering how long its been out.