Hi, I've had my X1 for less than a week and havent really installed much on it. The program memory is hovering between 50 MB used when nothing is running and around 25% is this normal?
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When I perform a soft reset I have about 48% Ram available.
After using a few programs and then close them only about 43 - 45% left.
The Ram drains away like this and after a few days I have less then 30% left, even I clear the memory in the setup page.
Unless I perform a soft reset I will not be able to get more than 45% again.
I am new to WM5. Any comment from you experts?
me too! now i have to restart it everyday once.
It is very normal, Mine 64mb ram usually left ony 16 to 25mb. Need to stop running program once a while to clear the ram.
starlety said:
It is very normal, Mine 64mb ram usually left ony 16 to 25mb. Need to stop running program once a while to clear the ram.
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I have close all of them within memory management, but ram do not come back.
jackielo said:
starlety said:
It is very normal, Mine 64mb ram usually left ony 16 to 25mb. Need to stop running program once a while to clear the ram.
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I have close all of them within memory management, but ram do not come back.
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same problem for me; also after closing of programs RAM disappears; have to reset 1-2 times per day ...
I noticed in every rom I used that after a while (like half a day) the free memory of the PDA gets drained. For example after a soft reset and with all my software loaded for good, I have 24 MB free but after 6 hours I ll have 17 MB free.
I use the FREEupRAM from sktools and it frees some ram but not all.
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I noticed in every rom I used that after a while (like half a day) the free memory of the PDA gets drained. For example after a soft reset and with all my software loaded for good, I have 24 MB free but after 6 hours I ll have 17 MB free.
I use the FREEupRAM from sktools and it frees some ram but not all.
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Which ROMs and which Radio ROMs specifically. I had had problems with many ROMs - but am running MARY 1.2 and have no memory drain issues.
ROMS : mun's LVSW, AXEL, MARY, INDIGO ... many many more, all with the same issue. I think its a windows mobile issue or something that occurs on every rom.
RADIO : 1.38 - 1.46 - 1.50
Well with the lVSW rom, which does not have HTC Home, I did not have any memory drain.
However with the AX3L, Mary, Mun Indigo Full, using the HTC Home Plug, I had serious memory drains as described above from our friend firiel.
When I disabled the HTC Home pluging and operated them on the standard Today Screens with only SPB Weather programm running, the memory leak was minimal i.e from 24 to 21 in a period of three days.
I believe the problem is not on the ROMS but on the HTC Home plug, and maybe we need to know if it is the case with people who have the original Touch device and the Kaiser, if they also experience these kind of memory leaks.
Generally these user friendly animated programms drain down the memory, I had the same problem with the spb mobile suite application.
Maybe it will be fixed in the future
I do use the spb mobile suite, I ll try uninstalling it workaround and report back
A friend having a trinity with wm5 running exactly the same programs installed as I does not have the same issues even with SPB Mobile suite, so the problem is in only on wm6
I have a DoPOD d810=Trinity running WM5 and have the same problem, SKTools also doesn't revive the Memory to the full SR status of >25MB.
Does anyone know of a small utility that can revive the Maximum Memory without having to do a SR??
Having downgraded from DCD's 2.3.1 bell rom after having some major memory issues, i opted to use 2.1.0 which had far less issues and was more stable. But I think I got far more than I actually bargained for. On soft reset with 2.3.1 I had 20.45 megs free with nothing installed, with 2.1.0 I have 21.74 but here's the biggest shocker...when I had 2.1.0 earlier, it was the norm to soft reset every other day or so, ever since I downgraded I've NEVER had to soft reset, that was over a WEEK ago.
My free memory always hovers around 18 to 19 megs free, even when I open up applications, it dips to reflect the program and as soon as I close it, within 2 mins it creeps back up to 18 and after using oxios memory, 19.36 megs free. I'm constantly checking because I'm paranoid, with all the issues I've had in terms of memory with this phone, this is downright FREAKY!!
I have HTC home and customiser, Google maps, total commander, phm registry editor, oxios memory, pocket rar, audio manager, nilisco flashlight, TCMP/ flash video bundle and iguidance installed and my free RAM is still going STRONG...
I don't see the problem
That's exactly the point
Point is, something is actually working right on my titan for once and I figured I'd share, maybe there are others who are experiencing memory issues as well, maybe this rom may hold some answers
around 5.9 MB of Program Memory free ??
or what can i do to keep it away from the
low zone
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oh and it usually starts around 23 then drops down to like the lowest
ive seen is like 4 mb of program memory
also any tips on how to keep the program memory up would be nice
o so sorry for double post =/
Hi,
I've noticed that over the course of a day, the memory consumption of the HD increases substantially... going up from about 30% to over 60% if I use it heavily. I imagine it has something to do with the different caches and the tweaks I've run (found on the forums) to increase performance. Is there a way to flush all caches so that I don't have to reset the device?
Thanks!
I'd like to know if anyone else is having this problem too.
After a fresh reboot my memory usage is about 30%. By the time Gyrator and TouchFlo restart it gets to about 40% where it stays.
However once I start using programs it will easily skyrocket to about 70%. Even if I close all the programs using taskmanager I will never recover more than about 2-3% of memory.
i use memmaid to free memory from time to time, but i we also backup a request for something that automaticly do that
shadow option for sktools made my hd to stuck so i rennounced to it
any ideeas?
now i don't know if this can affect battery performance but with computers the most efficient system is NOT the one with a lot of free ram, is the one that USES it totally... virtually having always ram at 99% would mean maximum performance... In other words: why do you want to flush the ram
This can not affect battery performance at all.
And it's totally normal to use ALL ram.
I guess you people grew up with normal Windows, that frees ram...
For example Linux has always used 99% RAM on your pc. It just uses all the free RAM as cache! So when there is more needed, it deletes some cache and allocates that RAM.
It is bad, very bad to waste memory by not using 100%. Using all memory for cache and only giving memory when it is needed is good for performance.
If you look at Vista, it does the same thing...
So it is normal behaviour, especially when you set all the caches high.
I use the SKTools application "FreeUP RAM" which does a sweep of RAM and normally saves about 5-10 mb.
BUT, I find I rarely need it as I don't seem to have any memory leak except with TomTom running.
i am not sure i can follow you
if i understand well, linux keem memory ocupied in order to fully use the whole capacity
but is not the case of windows, and sure is not the case of windows mobile
in my device, diferent processes and application take a slice of memory and does not release it even when you close them
so you end with a memory occupied 60, 70 even 80% despite the fact that you have nothing obviously running
because of that (not having enough free RAM), when you launch a new application, the HD became very slow or even stuck
correct me if i am wrong, but this is what i have noticed during the years of use of windows or windows mobile.
i am not computer literated so i might be wrong, though!
I also raise this problem here before, most expert's advise is that WM will manage memory itself, it is not necessary for us to do anything!!
I had tried to use memmaid, but it only free up 1-2M memory.
Back to the time when I use D810, if there are few MB left, I can't launch new application. Even when I close some and make free RAM left to 16+ MB, that program will still report out of memory........the only thing I can do is to soft reset.....
HD's RAM capacity is much better, but as time goes......maybe this problem will also happen!?!?
Sorry but not convinced. I agree that when in use 70-80% memory usage is not a problem. But when there are no programs running, then there is no reason to use ram.
Also on my previous wm6.1 device when you closed items in task manager it would restore ram. Sure not all of it but a good chunk of it. Heck, even on my previous HD using the task manager would free more ram.
The only thing that I can see that is different between my previous HD and this one is Tweak HD and the TouchFLO Calender. So I will try removing those first and see what happens,
Eventually, after flashing Laurentius's ROM, the problem went away almost completely. Have to say my memory usage is pretty stable now, at around 40-45% even after a day of full application and web use.
dunno personally i'd love to have a superfetch feature like in vista which keeps ram full
Higher memory usage causes minimal/neglectable effect on power consumption, RAM is powered as a whole, fractional/partial modes (where only used memory cells are powered) are not available on modern RAM chips. The CPU or DMA controller may use more power swapping memory data in and out as memory usage grows, however the increase is nothing in comparison with what the LCD backlight or loudspeaker would use.
I don't know what memory allocation method is used in Windows CE/Mobile, but regardless, being unable to start a new application while there are no other applications running in the background means that physical memory is depleted and this is not normal. OS may use RAM for caching/buffering to optimize performance, however memory allocated for optimizations should probably be released when it's required for other purposes. If this is not happening, than either OS lost track of allocated/unallocated memory or memory allocation approach is very inefficient and causes high fragmentation.
Here's a list of tools (for WinCE) that may also work on WinMo and help curious xda-devs figure out what's eating their memory...
http://blogs.msdn.com/ce_base/archive/2006/01/11/511883.aspx