I just got my THD and it feels SLOW? - Touch HD General

I dont really get it, the whole device feels slow, I feel like i would be back
on my blueangel (flashed to WM 6.1)? Khm... should this phone be FAST?
Btw, it is "default" HTC phone, no O2 like branding involved...

What do you expect from a thread like this? You are telling us your subjective experience with your device. In contrast I think my device is really fast, but that doesn't count anything.
You should do at least some benchmarks, tweak your device (using Advanced Config, HD Tweak, Registry editor, try other roms, etc.).

the default .net framework is 2.0. You need to install .net 3.5 and set as default. This nakes the largest performance boost. you can also perform other tweaks. either this or flash to a custom rom.

johnpatcher said:
You are telling us your subjective experience with your device. In contrast I think my device is really fast, but that doesn't count anything.
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I am not sure if this is subjective expirience as i am comparing it to older device i am using for 3.5 years
I was thinking something like this answer:
ez2remember said:
the default .net framework is 2.0. You need to install .net 3.5 and set as default. This nakes the largest performance boost. you can also perform other tweaks. either this or flash to a custom rom.
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Thank you I will avoid flashing for now (although my my fingers are getting itchy)...

I would suggest you get the SPB Benchmark program - free for personal use from the SPB site and compare with the published benchmarks for the HD.
I have not done this. However, I feel the HD is fast enough. It does not feel like super fast but certainly much better than my Tytn II.

"You need to install .net 3.5 and set as default"
I installed it but how do you set it to default?

Hi Geeba.
Search the forum for NET_CF_Config.cab.
This little tool will let you set .net 3.5 as the default one.
Good luck.

Also check out Opera Mini in the themes and applications section of this blackstone forum for a lightning fast browser compared to Opera Mobile on our HD.

root said:
I dont really get it, the whole device feels slow, I feel like i would be back
on my blueangel (flashed to WM 6.1)? Khm... should this phone be FAST?
Btw, it is "default" HTC phone, no O2 like branding involved...
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If you flash davideuck's V3 cooked rom, it will speed up your HD, Net3.5 is included as is many other tweaks. This one screams!

Matterhorn said:
If you flash davideuck's V3 cooked rom, it will speed up your HD, Net3.5 is included as is many other tweaks. This one screams!
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....Fully agree, Matterhorn... this ROM, is really excellent and hard to beat in this very moment. Yes, it is embarassing - but it is true!

Related

Any ultra light version?

First of all, sorry if this is a stupid question but I dont want to post the same in any topic.
I ask if anyone made or can make a WM6.1 ultra light version. I mean, the more recent OS version, but without any application like HTC Home, albuns, players, personal themes or else. Just the plain and simple Operative System, for anyone that want to install his prefered applications.
I'm not a cooker and try some ROM's, but the ones that work fast and stable, got too much programs that never used, and the ones really light, have too many bugs or are realy slow.
Thanks in advice....
i want to know that too
edit: but the closest on i've seen is Mary's Super Light 3.7 (currently using it)
Babaloo said:
First of all, sorry if this is a stupid question but I dont want to post the same in any topic.
I ask if anyone made or can make a WM6.1 ultra light version. I mean, the more recent OS version, but without any application like HTC Home, albuns, players, personal themes or else. Just the plain and simple Operative System, for anyone that want to install his prefered applications.
I'm not a cooker and try some ROM's, but the ones that work fast and stable, got too much programs that never used, and the ones really light, have too many bugs or are realy slow.
Thanks in advice....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397517
Very stable, everything works, no extra battery consumption.
This is as close to a perfect "OS ONLY" ROM I've seen so far...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397517
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This is as close to a perfect "OS ONLY" ROM I've seen so far...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397517
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Hi SuperSport,
Have you compared this with FIniXNover 3.4 Light? In your opinion which is more stable, faster with less bugs...
Thanks for your help.
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Hi SuperSport,
Have you compared this with FIniXNover 3.4 Light? In your opinion which is more stable, faster with less bugs...
Thanks for your help.
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Actually, I haven't compared them. As it is now, I use my phone heavily on a daily basis, so I cannot be down with problems. From what I read, there are still some problems with 3.4. I may be wrong, but I have not tested yet.
Don't get me wrong, I think FIniXNover is a GREAT chef, and have tried his ROMS in the past, but for now, will stick with these...

Lightest, fastest 6.1 WWE ROM for Polaris?

Please suggest! I don't need Manila, Tom Tom, etc. Just as clean a ROM as possible. Please don't suggest original HTC
very easy, read this forum!!
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very easy, read this forum!!
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LOOOL!!!
I use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459826
it's in the first page of this forum!
U can use the clean or naked version.
Very clean, very fast, very very!!!
Enjoy!
udk
udk siryus8. fastest 6.1 ROM. just go to settings/today and disable m2d and you'll see for yourself.
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udk siryus8. fastest 6.1 ROM. just go to settings/today and disable m2d and you'll see for yourself.
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3LIT3 version Nacked, not m2d, is fast
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3LIT3 version Nacked, not m2d, is fast
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This.
Though, looks like author is not working on ROMs for polaris anymore. Its a big shame...
It was the only trully naked ROM for Polaris. /sigh
M-Amine 2.0 Light is waaaay faster than 3LIT3 naked. Believe me, I tried both.
Thank you, all! will probably go with 3LIT3 naked
NFS...
I've tested many ROMs. I got to think that they are several HW versions for Polaris... it might be a noob opinion, but it's the only explanation i found. Some ROMs here on XDA were reviewed as lightning fast but when I flashed them on my Polaris I was more disappointed than I was by the stock ROM...
to be honest it's really a headache to choose the best rom, some have combatability issues, others are stack after a while, what I like is to have a steady rom with enough internal storage to install my applications.
the problem is I like the cooked roms tweaks but....
for me I tried most of xda available roms and I guess i will go with the original 3.19 Rom
rom that can Video Call?
I had been wanting to make a new clean and lightweight installation for a long time, because I had tried so many softwares on my Rom that it was kinda messed up. This thread was the trigger.
I tried 3LIT3 naked, M.Amine light, and another "light" Rom I can't remember as it erased it in no time (toooo sloooooow).I had tried oter Roms before, but none was really fast.
It turns out that Manilla is slow as hell (yeah, I know, no big surprise), but the enhanced menus are sluggish too. Really, it makes a huge difference. Much more than several % of free memory
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Amine light ended being the best choice fo speed by far. I have no numbers to back it up, as the only testism daily use.
M.Amine light comes with... nothing, or close. Just the basic tweaks.
I added everything I needed from Cabs from this thread : HTC home (yes, Amine Light is SO LIGHT it does not even have home plugin!), HHC, Cube (which is fast, and convenient imo), TomTom (I own a licence) plus a task manager and Skyfire both downloaded from other webites.
It took me about 10 minutes to complete the whole installation and my phone has never been faster. And stable.
I have used M.Amine Roms for a while in the past, so I expect it to remain pristine even after intensive use.

WM 6.5 Vs 6.1

I don't know what about you guys, but I think that our phone cannot "carry out" the load of the WM 6.5.
I have tried all the great ROM's up to now - indeed great improvement, but still not getting to the latest performance, stability as well as power consumer as the 6.1.
We need to admit that our Polaris does not meet the "Vista" of the mobile requirement - and frankly, it is not expected to be like that.
From my point of view, we need to focus over the latest WM6.1 but to update it always with the latest application available in the market.
No other choice but to wait for WM7, maybe it will be lighter and faster than the 6.5.
Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid.
I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.
I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.
6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.
A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.
On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!
As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!
Well, that was my ramble!
Best regards,
Alan
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Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process itself, rather than by the results it may bring
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I agree on this - I was writing my post just as you posted yours. I'm using pcar's and no objections for me, although I believe a lite\naked version could help with the response rate of the device (it's not slow at all, but udk's was just REALLY fast).
I've already asked pcar for a LITE\NAKED version, but poor guy is already giving so much of his time developing the new ROMs as well as the support...i've never seen a cook so active and dedicated...probably the best quality in a cook as you have the confidance that he will work & solve all issues & improvements. But hopefully he will manage to offer a stripped-down version.
It's right! WM6.5 on Polaris is not for a daily usage. I'm so satisfied with 6.1-3lit3VIII.
Well, i do believe wm 6.5 is very good with all new features, but it's just too much for polaris to handle. The best option would be to have all improvements from 6.5 core(HSUPA f.e.) minus all that flashy menus and such.
Also, i cannot stand the way it wants me to use it(mainly fingers), I like my stylus, and i don't want to smudge it with my fingers. Why there isn't a option to let me choose how do i want to control it?
tl;dr make a naked version of 6.5
overrule )
DesertsStorm said:
Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid.
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I agree with the concept of what you have written, however if we will be case specific, the 6.5 version is to "heavy" for our "not young" Polaris. up to WM6.1 (XP) the system could be optimize for very good performance, but since WM6.5 (Vista), the Mobile is consuming 30-40% power (why?) and the response display can be really feel on daily use.
I don't think that this is compare to win98 - it is relative to XP that still continue to be use today, although the Win7 is out....
Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable
100% correct
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I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.
I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.
6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.
A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.
On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!
As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!
Agree with every single word, I have nothing to say about the great and huge cookers and there very good work, I just wanted to "heads up" people to re-think again about the current HW Vs the New OS - sometimes, it doesn't work well not meter what you are going to do...
By the way, this is why there is new 1 GHz CPU
Probably I'll stay with the latest 6.1 version up to the time I'll replace my mobile.
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Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.
Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.
I agree with Yinnon-I also tried 6.5 (Costas early version wich was great),but I saw that the performance in 6.1 is better and got back to M-Amine 6.1-till I buys my new device.
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Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable
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Oh, I do!!! I so MUCH do!! Remember those Win 98 times when you would loose all your work and were forced to reboot just because any inserted corrupt floppy disk or media player that stopped responding would DEFINITELY result in BSOD??? And it didn't matter for me back then that my PC would run like 50% slower with Win2000 because I knew stability and reliability is sometimes more important than speed.
As to the features of WM6.5 I'll repeat that in day-to-day use (like 3 weeks since I've installed pcarvalho's latest ROM) I don't see any major performance problems on my Polaris whatsoever. Battery life is shorter, that's it. Media or GPS software, M2D v.2.0, Camera, 2G calls, you name it - everything runs good and stable. Not rocket-fast, like on some naked 6.1 ROMs but I just don't care, cause 6.1 is a thing of past for me.
P.S. Wanna see some real problems with performance? Try installing 3D drivers and Touch Flo 3D
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Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.
Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.
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This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
Wazowski68 said:
This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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I'm just afraid to think using larger cache in Opera 9.7 in wm6.5...
Wazowski68 said:
This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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But of course its wrong to run clean ram twice a day! Oh my god! ... manually! Twice a day!!! I would just write a script to do that for me!
No, seriously, people thats for everyone personally to decide what to use and what ROM to cook (maybe those cooks are bored with 6.1 and had enough of it already - didn't you think about that? ) . But don't forget that if there is a problem, it doesn't mean the whole thing is bad and should be abandoned. Maybe you will find it more interesting to try to solve the problem.
I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.
In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.
Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).
I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.
Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!
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I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.
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I totally agree with you...not just with the Polaris but with most of the HTC devices, this is why HD2 is (FINALLY!) a leap in hardware advancements. Ofcourse it still lacks the TV-Out & not sure about the camera but hopefully the camera will be resolved with the LED lighting as it's the light-filter that slows the fps down. I just hope the next-gen devices see the same leaps in technology & power as opposed to small improvements here & there!
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In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.
Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).
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Exactly, my phone is reminding me of the days of the old pentium 1-2 & upgrading from Windows 95 to 98 to 2000, etc ...as long as the hardware can keep up performance-wise with the new software. We have an amazing community of cooks, testers, and users to keep the best coming, and while a lot of the earlier cooks left, thankfully we're still seeing some good talent coming on to the scene. And hopefully we'll be seeing more naked versions as well!
Eventually I think the polaris vs the new software generations will naturally push us to the newer\faster models with more hardware features to make the most out of... and this is before being dumped again by those cooks with more money hehe
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I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.
Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!
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I'm with you 100%. btw, regarding the battery & GPS, if you're running the GPS for 4 hours it's going to drain your battery regardless of the OS you're using. In that case for the mountains, consider getting a solar or AA battery-powered charger (should be just a few $).
Regarding 'com5', i've always wanted to ask what is com2, com3 etc... i searched the forums but it was hard to find the right post with those keywords...can someone please explain? Thanks!
Just my 2 cents. I came to Polaris after 3 unhappy days spent with Touch Pro (will not comment it at all) Only thing I dislike with Polaris is a yellowish color temperature of the screen. And thats it.
Wm6.5 is definitely not heavy for Polaris - unless you understand wm6.5 is all about Titanium and Honeycomb start menu. The problem is that cookers mostly post ROMs overloaded with various things that YOU might never need (and cannot edit). Try one of 6.5 kithens (Gullum's is excellent) and clear everything you don't need from it to see how fast wm6.5 can be. My Polaris has some 62 MB free with S2U2, Today Agenda, HTC Home (yep, usability over looks) and pTravel alarm running on homescreen (all cooked into ROM). It is faster compared to 3lite VI naked ROM I flashed to my brother's Polaris. (3lite VI ROM is mentioned only as example, and is one of the best and fastest 6.1 ROMs IMPO).
From my experience wm6.5 biggest advantage is in tweaked interface compared to 6.1 (for example finger friendly tree-dialogue menus, taskbar buttons on the bottom of the screen, finger friendly contacts and calendar apps etc.), with some other minor glitches of 6.1 resolved. Add to that fact that with recent builds you have visible changes between them and you can choose one according to your preferences - gives you something very promising and inevitable.

Am I the only one that likes the stock?

My last WinMo phone was the XPERIA X1. With the stock ROM, it was an absolute train wreck. I loved to browse XDA and flash custom ROMs for the interesting hybrid SE Panels / TouchFlo3D ROMs. They were so fast, too, compared to the original SE 6.1. The original was just slow and laggy and frequently buggy as hell.
That was just a year ago.
With the HD2 I find myself not nearly as compelled to flash the ROM. I purchased my HD2 T9193 used (got it in mint condition for a screaming good deal) and the past owner had a custom ROM on there. I actually flashed to an official ROM -- the 1.66 WWE. I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks. The device was snappy, fast, lag-free, and just plain ultra-responsive. I actually liked everything about it, from HTC Messaging and the HTC keyboard to the stock Opera browser to the stock task manager and whatnot. I just felt really at home, and I was really pleased with Sense both visually and in respect to its performance.
Then I see people deriding the stock ROMs thread after thread, blaming it for people's random problems with the HD2. They claim that custom ROMs can fix the problems, but I'm running a stock ROM pretty much trouble-free. The problems I read about that are frequently attributed to stock ROMs are problems I myself am far-removed from, including but not limited to crashing, lag, bugs, and general unsatisfactory performance.
So is it really the stock ROMs that cause so many problems? I'm fairly convinced they represent an excellent way to get a known experience that you can customize fairly easily to exactly the configuration that works for you. I'm very happy with my HD2 and once I get the bloody data connection issue fixed for good I can't imagine the stock ROM will ever give me a misstep. It's just stable and fast as hell for me.
Does the stock ROM just "work" for anyone else?
(I apologize if this is considered a ROM discussion thread [not my intention, but I understand if it is considered so or devolves into one])
I'd prefer a cooked stock-like ROM than any heavily-themed one...if that's what you mean.
I have a stock T-mo Rom, and it's work well for me...Coupla of reg tweaks, and apps. Still has some bugs though..
I too went from the X1 to the Leo (as I affectionally call it over the HD2). I am using the stock 1.72 WWE/HK ROM and am quite happy with it. The thing is there are several things about cooked ROMs that you simply cannot get from a stock ROM (not even by adding .cabs), but the cooked ROMs are always heavily themed.
If I remember correctly, there was only like a handful of X1-based cooked ROMs that matched the look of the stock but had the usability of a cooked ROM, that was my preferred choice.
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
p.s. Anyone feel sometimes some cooks go insane (in a humorous way) with heavily skinning the interface? Just makes me go oh my god! (completely personal opinion with NO mentioning of names ).
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As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
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Isn't an option yet? Have you look at the ChuckyROM kitchen? Not all Cooked ROMs are skinned to death (though I agree, some people do have bad taste in themes ) and some are done exactly like stock. If that's not enough, you can always cook your own stock ROM with the added stability and performance tweaks.
I am actually quite happy with the stock T-Mo US ROM. I have not done much tweaking of any kind really. Someday I am sure I will but for now I am quite happy with the phone as it is.
I love stock as well. Tried a couple of coocked (artemis and another one I can't remember) but I am not happy with them at all.
Stock is good. 1.66WWE.
I understand the benefits of cooked ROMs with regard to features and incremental bug fixes, but I don't understand why these benefits come at the expense of the stock ROM's reputation -- that is what I am getting at. I find nothing egregiously wrong with the stock ROM for me now that I've tweaked it sufficiently.
The BEST part about the HD2 is that I always have the option. And the options are all attractive.. I guess there's just too many of them for me to pick just one.
i like my stock ROM don't see any point yet to go for a custom one.i updated to the official one from htc website and hot nolag or problems
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
I use stock 1.66 ... no problems for me! (well no major ones anyway... got a minor issue with text size when writing an sms but i think every rom has this)
I have the stock 1.72 and I have to say im very happy with it. I would consider a cooked Rom but it will be for curiosity not because of any probs with the stock one.
RReckless
It depends on people's taste
I love cook roms because I like 6.5.x finger-friendly style, and in cook rom I dont have to install some apps 1-by-1, and dont have to apply tweaks 1-by-1. Another good things is cook rom decorate the start menu quite well.
friend'scatdied said:
I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks.
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I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
dipaolnv said:
I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
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They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
friend'scatdied said:
They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
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I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
skycamefalling said:
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
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I like this statement. Very true.
I use a custom ROM because the OS has a footprint of under 50Mb with a few tweaks, it's fast, and good looking. WM 6.5 stock ROMs are ugly, and I am spoilt with the finger friendliness of 6.5.x.
pongster said:
I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
friend'scatdied said:
Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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"an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there."
You just described g.lewarne's ROM Series mate
I've flased the O2 1.72 stock rom and I have no problems to report. It even solved the SMS lag. Along with Cookie, BSB, HD2 Tweak and all the fab clocks from everybody, the stock rom suits me fine.

Back-2-Basics

Hello fellow flashers,
What a journey it has been.......
About 1,5 years ago I started flashing cooked roms. Miri and Dutty produced some great roms which showed what our precious Blackstone can do. Those and other roms had lots of bugs, but it was fun to play around with them.
Lately, the most popular roms have been developed into great pieces of work and major bugs are in the past. It's mostly minor stuff that's hardly annoying.
I flashed almost all available roms on this forum from chef's such as Energy, Xannytech, Grzegorz, Cloudy, Miniteror's, Mikenifficent, BlackSTONEhenge, Kenia's Blacknew, Millski, Maryone, PhamQuang and Lotus, but I always went back to one of the KWBR's Topix roms. Especially the WM6.1 sense 2.1 rom, which was my longtime favorite.
So why back 2 basics?
I flashed back to the "latest" Dutch stock rom and almost fully tweaked it to optimal settings using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and driverpack signed 2010. The rom is flying like a maniac and I can't believe how fast my blackstone is (even compared with the fastest coocked roms floating around). I also made some cosmetic colour changes to the slider and taskbar (see avatar) and it still uses only 33% of memory....amazing!
The only downfall in my opinion is the WM6.1 part. Some programs can't be instaled through marketplace, but I can live with that. Also because of the age of the roms a lot of programs are old, but everything works like a charm. Also, TomTom and Google maps work extremely fast and the responsiveness and quickness of the rom is extremely good.
By using all the latest roms the last couple of months (which usually use between 45-55% of memory and even more after applying tweaks) I forgot how fast this device can be.
I think i'll stick with this rom-version 4 a while and see how the development on this forum goes. On the other hand, I might flash tomorrow again as one of these great chef's comes up with with Dutty called: "the holy grail". We'll see....
Fact is: it's addicting as hell to play around with our device, but you all know what i am talking about, right?
Tnx 2 all you chef's 4 the great roms and keep up the good work!
Had an iphone for 2 years. Got my HD quite recently, came with some win6.5 manilla2.5 rom. Tried a lot of roms, and all the time had the feeling of lagginess and slowness.
Then i tried kwbr topaz and rhodium roms and the stock rom. Well this device is meant to be fast afterall. I don't really get why you people use those i_wanna_look_like_leo roms =)
And i don't really see any sense in upgrading windows as well, unless you don't like your manilla, coz titanium is quite ok for a daily use.
So now there's only three roms that i really enjoy: the stock rom (it's meant to be like that), the rhodium/topaz rom (fit just like the stock one, but with some added features)(thank's a lot kwbr), and a clean 6.5 - 6.5.3 rom (haven't really found the perfect one)
i can speak for italian stock rom but every topix beats the sh33t out of the stock rom. cfc compression of tf3d/sense and all the tweaks cant be beaten by the stock rom
My question is can someone direct me to the LINK from where i can Download the Latest WWE Stock ROM, i need only the nbh File because i will use the Stock one with diferent Radio version
I saw alot of Official ROM in the Wiki but they are Uploaded in few Pars and they are on Rapidshare so i will need to download one ROM few days because when i download 1 or 2 times from Rapidshare i cannot download more for today. Also im not sure do this post is Up to Date for this reason im asking you here...
I need a WWE ROM its good enought if its WWE Europe.
I already have on my Desktop PC ROM: RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship
But i don`t know do this is the Latest Avalible? also is writen that is 1.56 so this mean someday in the future when i need to get back to the Stock one and im not with 1.56 Olinex i don`t need to be back to 1.14 Olinex right? because this ROM is 1.56
_7_ said:
Hello fellow flashers,
What a journey it has been.......
About 1,5 years ago I started flashing cooked roms. Miri and Dutty produced some great roms which showed what our precious Blackstone can do. Those and other roms had lots of bugs, but it was fun to play around with them.
Lately, the most popular roms have been developed into great pieces of work and major bugs are in the past. It's mostly minor stuff that's hardly annoying.
I flashed almost all available roms on this forum from chef's such as Energy, Xannytech, Grzegorz, Cloudy, Miniteror's, Mikenifficent, BlackSTONEhenge, Kenia's Blacknew, Millski, Maryone, PhamQuang and Lotus, but I always went back to one of the KWBR's Topix roms. Especially the WM6.1 sense 2.1 rom, which was my longtime favorite.
So why back 2 basics?
I flashed back to the "latest" Dutch stock rom and almost fully tweaked it to optimal settings using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and driverpack signed 2010. The rom is flying like a maniac and I can't believe how fast my blackstone is (even compared with the fastest coocked roms floating around). I also made some cosmetic colour changes to the slider and taskbar (see avatar) and it still uses only 33% of memory....amazing!
The only downfall in my opinion is the WM6.1 part. Some programs can't be instaled through marketplace, but I can live with that. Also because of the age of teh roms a lot of programs are old, but everything works like a charm. Also, TomTom and Google maps work extremely fast and the responsiveness and quickness of the rom is extremely good.
By using all the latest roms teh last couple of months (which usually use between 45-55% of memory and even more after applying tweaks) I forgot how fast this device can be.
I think i'll stick with this rom-version 4 a while and see how the development on this forum goes. On the other hand, I might flash tomorrow again as one of these great chef's comes up with with Dutty called: "the holy grail". We'll see....
Fact is: it's addicting as hell to play around with our device, but you all know what i am talking about, right?
Tnx 2 all you chef's 4 the great roms and keep up the good work!
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Same issue here! Been trying almost every ROM you mentioned, and I planned to go back to the Dutch Stock tomorrow. Just out of curiosity, what tweaks did you do? Do you have the tools you installed available as an installer or something. Please let know.
SJackal said:
Same issue here! Been trying almost every ROM you mentioned, and I planned to go back to the Dutch Stock tomorrow. Just out of curiosity, what tweaks did you do? Do you have the tools you installed available as an installer or something. Please let know.
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Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
_7_ said:
Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
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Hi _7_
I returned today to the Oficial Portuguese ROM too.
Can you tell me where can I find the Colored slider+taskbar that you use, or the name?
Thanks
_7_ said:
Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
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I flashed back to the original Dutch stock, did the tweaks you mentioned, added a nice theme+taskbar and installed Facebook, Marketplace, G-Alarm, TomTom and Opera 10. The ROM flies, has every tool a use and just uses 33% at startup. Never went over 48% till now!
Thanks for your tip!
As much as I appreciate this thread, it hasn't got anything to do with development so I am moving it to the general forum
what eyecandy/tools are you using to make an old stock rom look good?
the main reason to move from stock 6.1 to wm6.5 and sense2.5 is the look, isn't it? I like on home tab the weather animation, links to programs (CHT), the funktionally people and the email tab ...
so my question is:
what eyecandy/tools are you using to make an old stock rom look good?
any pics & links, please.
A while back, I flashed back to the latest WWE stock ROM and thought I'd stick it out for a bit, but the lack of kinetic scrolling really caught me out to the point I could hardly use the phone (I never realised I'd gotten so used to WM6.5!)
Then I tried kwbr's WM6.5 and Manila 2.1 (no sense) and found that while it does use more memory than a WM6.1 ROM does (37% after a softboot), I've not seen it over 50% unless I've a few apps running at the same time. And I've got my kinetic scrolling back
Out of curiosity, how much difference does Neo's driverpack actually make to the stock ROM as I was led to believe it only made a noticeable difference to those using Sense 2.5 which used the graphics-side a lot more?
Well.......after using the modified stock rom for a couple of weeks I could not resist trying some newly coocked roms.
I found a rom that really meets my expectations and needs:
[ROM][WWE][10-Jul-10] Cloudy 0.4 (WM6.1)
Try and see 4 yourself!
Greetz!
Barebone
Have you tried [ROM][WWE][WM 6.1][Jun 24]Barebone 2.6 ?
Very fast ROM with all the useless stuff removed. Much faster than stock ROM in my experience.

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