Just another performance thread, or...?? - XPERIA X1 General

Hi all,
First, I did not want to start a thread like this, but Iam reading XDA Devs since the beginning of September '08 and I did not find anything that can really help me out with my X1 performance.
I understand this is not really primary gaming device, but...when I try game EMUlators like FPSce, pocketGBA, all games there are running damn slowly (15fps and lower), switching hardware acceleration in pocketGBA and most games just does not work. When I try classic CAB games, they are usually slow, some scrolling type games (Worms, Atomic Cannon, some RPG's, etc. does not have smooth scrolling and it looks terrible). Some problems can be a bit solved with WVGA switcher (when you switch to VGA mode, it helps performance a bit). JAVA games are just same case, slow and slow (15+- fps).
I read everywhere in reviews, that X1 got really strong hardware...but the truth? OS is slow too (what could I expect from WM, heh?), applications are slow, even the damn scrolling in the application browser (programs, settings) are damn slow and there is scroll tearing.
Does anyone of you got information about incoming updates (drivers,...) or are there any tweaks or drivers or anything that REALLY helps the X1 performance? Please, dont mention advanced tool, xperia tweak, etc. Those tweaks does not really improve the performance at all.
Last thing: dont get me wrong, I really like my X1, but these things really annoys me and I bet it annoy most of you too. Thanks for all suggestions.

Emulators...
I play many games with really nice fps on my x1...
Mostly using Morphgear
without sound ->SNes/Genesis/GamboyAdvance games ->40 fps or more
with sound -> Gamboy games -> full fps + sound
Otherwise try different PocketSnes versions and Pocket GBA (without sound)
Check also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442303
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437927
If sounds is REALLY important for you (when playing games) then buy the Asus P565 (Touch Diamond style device without keyboard but with speeeed) !
With the P565 you can run any emulator on 100 % with sound and even FpseCE with good fps + sound.
P565 and comparison:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466435
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446317
Greets !

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Playstation 1 emulator! (FPSEce 9.6)

I recently put the Sony Playstation emulator FPSEce 9.6 on my Cingular 8525 and it is way too cool! Curently I have Army Men 3D (full speed), Crash Bandicoot (kinda slow but playable), Tekken 1 (kinda slow but playable), Mega Man (near full speed), Gran Turismo 1 (kinda slow but playable), Driver 1 (kinda slow but playable), San Rush Extreme Racing (near full speed), Twisted Metal 4 (near full speed), and Ready 2 Rumble Boxing (kinda slow but playable) all playing on my phone! Guy's try it out, you won't find better pocket pc games than those of Playstation 1. Just own the games and a Playstation to make having the bios legal (Google on how to extract bios).
What I want out of this post is for everyone that uses FPSEce on this phone to list the games that they have found to be compatible with the tytn model phone running this emulator. I will update it as well when I find any new compatible games. Enjoy!
I use Metal Slug X Super Vehicle 001 full speed
mortal kombat 2 & Cool Boarders 3 runs a bit slower..
Is there a Site where i can find the Images?
Or do I have to rip everything by myselve?
As above, but legally speaking I would guess you need to own the originals!!!
What size files do these games produce when ripped and what software do you use?
Crash Bandicoot is my all time favorite game on the PS... you mentioned its slow, but playable... is it so slow that I might end up throwing my MDA across the room
To answer the first question, yes you do need to own the originals. I have a used game store that I visit that still sells used playstation 1 games. Most of them they let me have for $3 to $5 each. Pretty cheap pocket pc games if you ask me!
I use a program called "Magic Iso" to rip the games. Then I use a program called "Pocket Iso" to rip out the movies and shrink them. To get Magic Iso just go to (www.magiciso.com), I only use the trial version of this software. To get Pocket Iso go to (www.fpsece.net). I have been able to shrink a game down to between 39mb to 304mb. Some games will let you rip out all the movies and music where some will not. Kind of a trial and error thing.
Crash is like I said "playable" @ maybe 12 - 14 fps. There is a frame skip option on FPSEce that you can use that helps some. To some that frame rate might convince someone to throw their MDA across the room but there are other games that play at near full speed that you can always use. Still cool to see Crash on a PDA though! Hope all this helps!
Does it eat up a lot of battery life quickly when you play the games?
Not that I've noticed. The juice holds up very well! As a matter of fact I can't tell tell any difference between running this emulator and running a normal ppc application when it comes to battery life. Hope that helps!
Crazy thing, I experimented with a Gameboy Advance emulator yesterday for this phone and the Playstation 1 emulator not only has much better graphics but on average runs I'd say 10% faster! I was surprised that PocketGBA was so taxing! One advantage that PocketGBA had over FPSEce was that the roms are so much smaller. Anyhow, just thought I'd give you guy's a little more info on my findings.
I just found this (kind of slow, lol) but I was wondering how those running it were doing with performance?
I put it on my 8525 and downloaded the Spyro Demo (that was in the thread to download fpseCE) and it ran like... 13 fps. which is kind of unplayable.
Also, if I get a call/text/notification of any sort, or run it in anything other than portrait mode, I can't quit it and have to soft reset.
Any performance tips? Or any idea what my problem is with the buttons/options/inability to quit thing? lol
Thanks.
Hope this helps.
What version of fpsece are you using? I'm running the latest release of the emulator (fpsece 9.6). So, for starters get the latest release if you don't have it because I noticed ALOT more bugs in the older releases. Depending on how you map your buttons it should take care of if pulling up the other applications you mentioned. Me, I have my controls mapped to my keyboard and I run the emulator in landscape mode. Also, to assist in the speed issue, I run the emulator on a frameskip of 3 and that seems to work well for most games. Of course it's not going to play as good as it did on the PS1 but I think you will find alot of games to be more than playable. Just keep in mind that you are playing far superior games on your pocket pc with the PS1 games and it will need just a little patience to enjoy. Hope that helps!
Has anyone managed to get FFVII running nicely on this on a Hermes?
I get jerky sound and no FMV support, anyone managed to get it ok?
thanks, Forlornity
any answer?
Well I've solved that problem now: bad rip, but I still have a problem in landscape mode: I can't exit without using soft resetting! Has anyone got a workaround for this?
Nevermind, I've fixed that too, for those of you wondering: Just ensure that you assign a "menu" button before going into landscape mode and when you press that menu button, ensure your Hermes is closed (i.e. No keyboard visible)
NICE! how does Parasite EVE 2 run on this?
can it detect CD change?
I'm able to run Final Fantasy VII at nearly full speed on my WM6 Wizard. Of course I need to overclock a little so its smoother without any frame skip. I hate the frame skip on such a good game like FF7.
There are a couple glitches with the new 9.6 version but much better than the previous one I tried. Sometimes the Messenger and IE buttons instead of doing their PS equivalent it opens up messenger/IE. Also sometimes the title bar appears and it covers up the right side of the screen in landscape.
Has anyone able to tweak a little extra performance out of the emulator by glyph / font / file system tweaks? Or by increasing those buffers does it slow down the game because of the lesser amount of available RAM?
"Oh you got the iPhone ...whoopdie freakin do ...can it play PLAYSTATION games like mine can??? I don't think so... puahhhahahahhaa"
Can som1 confirm if the games are playable on a HTC touch?
Anyone try to run Castlevania: Symphony of the Night? If so, does it stand up to playing it on the PS1 at all? If it does, I'd like to know, as this game would definately be my reason to download the emulator!
problem with emulator
the emulator goes back to the starting menu screen when I try to load an iso. I have set the bios and mapped the buttons to the keyboard. I also turned the screen to landscape and turned framskip on. Does anyone else have this problem? Is this a bad rip or another problem? The iso I used works perfectly on my playstation.
The emulator would actually go to the about screen after I try to load an iso.
Can someone post exactly how they installed this onto their Hermes? I want to find out what I'm doing wrong!
Ive run this on the hermes and magician and both had the same problem with the button layouts. The games will run ok once you set them up but the controls are in wierd places so gameplay is hard if not impossible especially on some of the faster moving games.
And as for buttons on the screen, that would work great if it was multi point touch.

So what Games Work on WM Side?

OK, I know there was a thread that covered games before, but it focused on the Vista side. Though there were some posts about games on the WM side, it was limited.
I've been able to figure out that most applications work (though some REALLY SLOWLY like Touch Commander), but games? This is a completely different issue. I spend a lot of time in airports and would really like my shift to be able to play some of the games my phone (O2 Zinc) does.
Of course we have some problems here - no dedicated soft buttons or application buttons like on a phone (at least none without the Keyboard, and I don't even know if there are "keyboard" ones less the arrors and "Sym"/"OK" keys). Also there is RAM issues, but that should not stop all games. Should it?
So, the question stands - What games do and don't work. So far I know what doesn't:
My Little Tank (Astraware)
Revival (HeroCraft)
Gone in 60 Seconds (HeroCraft)
Of course I do not really why the above don't walk but it probably has something to do with the screen. It does not seem to be RAM as there is at least 15-18MB (pending on my application installation) of free RAM for programs.
Any way - thougts and opinions
Didn't find lots of games working.
Orion doesn't work, and machine at war has some funky touchscreen input.
I was sad finding The Quest from Redshift not working.
Grand Prix Legends runs like a dream.
Especially with the presevation society installer which includes all the latest patches.
I am happily watching my saved replays and they look amazing.
Edit - oh drat, I'm referring to vista side in a WM topic!
My granny says 'oh drat'

3D performance in 3rd party programs.

Hello. As far as i understand it, the Topaz has a video chip. It even has 64megs of video ram! TF3D is nicely accelerated.
Now I'm just wondering why 3D games like Gameloft's Ferrari GT are so slow (unplayable as a real game). Also I'm using GPS software CoPilot and I thought it was normal for the navigation to have very low FPS. However I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4 which shows things doesn't always have to be so crappy (though its tomtom, it's just for showing difference and how smooth it runs on that phone on the left!).
My question: how can I achieve this with my Touch Diamond2?
I have been searching for 'video acceleration' and stuff and only find this 'Diamond D3D driver' which indeed seems to accelerate some apps but they need to be specificaly made (lights thing and hologram).
What is the best thing to do, to make my topaz perform the best in 3rd party 3D stuff? Or should I just forget about it all and never hope on it?
All apps that CAN be accelerated must be written to use the drivers. There are lots of talk of this in the Development and Hacking thread.

Podcasts and emulators?

Hey,
I've probably watched close to an hour of video reviews on the leo and no one mentioned podcasting functionality, afaik. Is it built into opera or the media player? Are there finger-friendly apps available?
I'm also interested in emulators for older gaming platforms, like SNES and the PSX. Performance seems promising, how about controls? Are there overlays with multi-touch in the works?
I'm new here, please forgive me if this has been answered. Didn't find anything in the stickies or through searching.
Cheers.
For podcasts you could give SmartRss Touch Edition a try.
I looks like it's still in beta, and isn't free, but there's a trial version for download.
I haven't tried it myself yet.
Cheers.
Thanks, looks good enough.
Someone on the FPSEce forums mentioned that a multi-touch controls overlay
for the psx emulator wasn't possible - something to do with limitations of the
capactive screen
Any word on whether he's telling the truth?
Performance should be almost full speed for every game with FPSECE as is with Toshiba TG01.
For controls, just buy a bluetooth gamepad from ebay and your away!
I tried Morphgear with Toshiba TG01 and got poor performance - I hope HD2 is differnt.
Thanks for your reply, I expect performance to be solid as well.
As for controls, I'm sure a bluetooth gamepad will work for some people but it's
just not for me. I would never consider carrying one just for a quick fix of wipeout
in the subway, and that's what I'm after.
The emulator runs VGA anyway, that leaves plenty of room for controls left and right.
The question is whether it's technically possible.

FpseCE 0.1[ps1 emu] on jade

fpsece is program that can run ps1 games on pocketpc devices ....i said why don't gave it a try on jade as it supposed to run this program at good speed ....and this link shows games requirement [high end device-or mid device- slow device] [http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=101&sid=018ce0e0a570239526038ac18bea01a3] .....i decided to try the games that can work on slow devices ...the problem is even games that supposed to run very fast as thay said it run so slow not playable at all ..........
i just want to make sure that this is the speed of jade on this program its oky if it dosen't work
so can pepole share their experience with this progeam srry for my bad english
i´m using fpsece 0,10 on my jade with great success.
first of all, you have to try as much game sas possible to be able to pick those which runs good. second, prefer PAL versions over NTSC, they are reported to have more speed. third, you need ti fiddle with game config file to find what setting works best - no sound helps me get more speed. Also games ripped with Pocket ISO runs better.
i am personally very happy with this app, the fact that Jade have no HW butons except D-pad makes many games (ports like Quake, DN..) unplayable... you are never getting Tomb Raider to work with Jade, because lack of buttons.
This all is dealt with in fpsece, you can configure onscreen buttons - as many as you want plus configure D-pad, even to a point it follows screen orientation...
definitely worth a try.
I tried many games but these are running realy good:
Wipeout - full speed! will be your number 1.
GranTurismo 1,2 -pretty fast, 1st one mostly
Ridge Racer Revolution & Ridge Racer Type 4 - playable cca 20-30fps
Resident Evil Survivor - smooth enough, 20+fps
Hidden & Dangerous - same as above, only one real FPS that works that good
old doom-likes, Exhumed...
now i´m trying to optimize even V-Rally´s performance to move up... will see
, read forums, play with it.
xtruh said:
i´m using fpsece 0,10 on my jade with great success.
first of all, you have to try as much game sas possible to be able to pick those which runs good. second, prefer PAL versions over NTSC, they are reported to have more speed. third, you need ti fiddle with game config file to find what setting works best - no sound helps me get more speed. Also games ripped with Pocket ISO runs better.
i am personally very happy with this app, the fact that Jade have no HW butons except D-pad makes many games (ports like Quake, DN..) unplayable... you are never getting Tomb Raider to work with Jade, because lack of buttons.
This all is dealt with in fpsece, you can configure onscreen buttons - as many as you want plus configure D-pad, even to a point it follows screen orientation...
definitely worth a try.
I tried many games but these are running realy good:
Wipeout - full speed! will be your number 1.
GranTurismo 1,2 -pretty fast, 1st one mostly
Ridge Racer Revolution & Ridge Racer Type 4 - playable cca 20-30fps
Resident Evil Survivor - smooth enough, 20+fps
Hidden & Dangerous - same as above, only one real FPS that works that good
old doom-likes, Exhumed...
now i´m trying to optimize even V-Rally´s performance to move up... will see
, read forums, play with it.
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thx for reply....and yea games works with good fps without sound i have tried twisted metal 2 ntsc verison i think and it work very good 28+
you can use volume buttons but if u not pressed and hold on it because if u hold it will disable and enable volume ...this problem only on with this emulator because we can use call ,reject and volume buttons in other emu like snes with no problem so i hope they fix it.......
and about editing game config file ..all i know is sound off and on idon't know what else i can customise so i will put some lines and tell me what to edit:
ForceGDI=off
EnableLFB=on
ForceVGA=off
GfxDrv=2
[GPUSOFT]
Odd_Even_Fix=0
Busy_Fix=0
Lazy_Update_Fix=1
High_Res_Boot_Fix=1
Frame_Skip_Mode=1
ithink that all we can edit

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