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I recently put the Sony Playstation emulator FPSEce 9.6 on my Cingular 8525 and it is way too cool! Curently I have Army Men 3D (full speed), Crash Bandicoot (kinda slow but playable), Tekken 1 (kinda slow but playable), Mega Man (near full speed), Gran Turismo 1 (kinda slow but playable), Driver 1 (kinda slow but playable), San Rush Extreme Racing (near full speed), Twisted Metal 4 (near full speed), and Ready 2 Rumble Boxing (kinda slow but playable) all playing on my phone! Guy's try it out, you won't find better pocket pc games than those of Playstation 1. Just own the games and a Playstation to make having the bios legal (Google on how to extract bios).
What I want out of this post is for everyone that uses FPSEce on this phone to list the games that they have found to be compatible with the tytn model phone running this emulator. I will update it as well when I find any new compatible games. Enjoy!
I use Metal Slug X Super Vehicle 001 full speed
mortal kombat 2 & Cool Boarders 3 runs a bit slower..
Is there a Site where i can find the Images?
Or do I have to rip everything by myselve?
As above, but legally speaking I would guess you need to own the originals!!!
What size files do these games produce when ripped and what software do you use?
Crash Bandicoot is my all time favorite game on the PS... you mentioned its slow, but playable... is it so slow that I might end up throwing my MDA across the room
To answer the first question, yes you do need to own the originals. I have a used game store that I visit that still sells used playstation 1 games. Most of them they let me have for $3 to $5 each. Pretty cheap pocket pc games if you ask me!
I use a program called "Magic Iso" to rip the games. Then I use a program called "Pocket Iso" to rip out the movies and shrink them. To get Magic Iso just go to (www.magiciso.com), I only use the trial version of this software. To get Pocket Iso go to (www.fpsece.net). I have been able to shrink a game down to between 39mb to 304mb. Some games will let you rip out all the movies and music where some will not. Kind of a trial and error thing.
Crash is like I said "playable" @ maybe 12 - 14 fps. There is a frame skip option on FPSEce that you can use that helps some. To some that frame rate might convince someone to throw their MDA across the room but there are other games that play at near full speed that you can always use. Still cool to see Crash on a PDA though! Hope all this helps!
Does it eat up a lot of battery life quickly when you play the games?
Not that I've noticed. The juice holds up very well! As a matter of fact I can't tell tell any difference between running this emulator and running a normal ppc application when it comes to battery life. Hope that helps!
Crazy thing, I experimented with a Gameboy Advance emulator yesterday for this phone and the Playstation 1 emulator not only has much better graphics but on average runs I'd say 10% faster! I was surprised that PocketGBA was so taxing! One advantage that PocketGBA had over FPSEce was that the roms are so much smaller. Anyhow, just thought I'd give you guy's a little more info on my findings.
I just found this (kind of slow, lol) but I was wondering how those running it were doing with performance?
I put it on my 8525 and downloaded the Spyro Demo (that was in the thread to download fpseCE) and it ran like... 13 fps. which is kind of unplayable.
Also, if I get a call/text/notification of any sort, or run it in anything other than portrait mode, I can't quit it and have to soft reset.
Any performance tips? Or any idea what my problem is with the buttons/options/inability to quit thing? lol
Thanks.
Hope this helps.
What version of fpsece are you using? I'm running the latest release of the emulator (fpsece 9.6). So, for starters get the latest release if you don't have it because I noticed ALOT more bugs in the older releases. Depending on how you map your buttons it should take care of if pulling up the other applications you mentioned. Me, I have my controls mapped to my keyboard and I run the emulator in landscape mode. Also, to assist in the speed issue, I run the emulator on a frameskip of 3 and that seems to work well for most games. Of course it's not going to play as good as it did on the PS1 but I think you will find alot of games to be more than playable. Just keep in mind that you are playing far superior games on your pocket pc with the PS1 games and it will need just a little patience to enjoy. Hope that helps!
Has anyone managed to get FFVII running nicely on this on a Hermes?
I get jerky sound and no FMV support, anyone managed to get it ok?
thanks, Forlornity
any answer?
Well I've solved that problem now: bad rip, but I still have a problem in landscape mode: I can't exit without using soft resetting! Has anyone got a workaround for this?
Nevermind, I've fixed that too, for those of you wondering: Just ensure that you assign a "menu" button before going into landscape mode and when you press that menu button, ensure your Hermes is closed (i.e. No keyboard visible)
NICE! how does Parasite EVE 2 run on this?
can it detect CD change?
I'm able to run Final Fantasy VII at nearly full speed on my WM6 Wizard. Of course I need to overclock a little so its smoother without any frame skip. I hate the frame skip on such a good game like FF7.
There are a couple glitches with the new 9.6 version but much better than the previous one I tried. Sometimes the Messenger and IE buttons instead of doing their PS equivalent it opens up messenger/IE. Also sometimes the title bar appears and it covers up the right side of the screen in landscape.
Has anyone able to tweak a little extra performance out of the emulator by glyph / font / file system tweaks? Or by increasing those buffers does it slow down the game because of the lesser amount of available RAM?
"Oh you got the iPhone ...whoopdie freakin do ...can it play PLAYSTATION games like mine can??? I don't think so... puahhhahahahhaa"
Can som1 confirm if the games are playable on a HTC touch?
Anyone try to run Castlevania: Symphony of the Night? If so, does it stand up to playing it on the PS1 at all? If it does, I'd like to know, as this game would definately be my reason to download the emulator!
problem with emulator
the emulator goes back to the starting menu screen when I try to load an iso. I have set the bios and mapped the buttons to the keyboard. I also turned the screen to landscape and turned framskip on. Does anyone else have this problem? Is this a bad rip or another problem? The iso I used works perfectly on my playstation.
The emulator would actually go to the about screen after I try to load an iso.
Can someone post exactly how they installed this onto their Hermes? I want to find out what I'm doing wrong!
Ive run this on the hermes and magician and both had the same problem with the button layouts. The games will run ok once you set them up but the controls are in wierd places so gameplay is hard if not impossible especially on some of the faster moving games.
And as for buttons on the screen, that would work great if it was multi point touch.
Hello folks,
This is my first post here. First I want to say thanks to the community at large here for the wealth of information that can be found here on the forums and wikis. You guys have made my HTC Advantage x7501 that much more valuable and entertaining for me!
My question is about SNES and NES emulation for the Advantage (or Ameo or Athena). I have read the wiki articles on SNES and NES emulators, and I have tried a number of the programs, but so far I haven't been very successful. There seem to be so many options out there, and a lot of the links and information is old or no longer valid (I can't find Tala's OpenGL SNES emulator to try it out, for instance).
If you have a SNES or NES emulator that work for you on your device, which one is it and what settings do you use?
I have tried these ones, to varying degrees of success:
-SNES-
n0p's PocketSNES: freezes up on me, seems unable to load a ROM
SNES9xJ4u: was able to change menus from Japanese to English, but I can't get a good picture. It loads portrait style, but not in a usable way (really small, picture garbled a little). On the plus side, it is REALLY fast.
-NES-
PocketNester: I've had the most success with this one. I can get games going in portrait, looking good. Button/key-mapping is really weird, it seems that PocketNester remaps it automatically in some weird fashion. Landscape would be nice.
PocketNesterPlus: For whatever reason I can't see all of the menus to change options or key-mapping. I can't use the scroll bar. Without being able to map keys or fiddle with graphics, I haven't been able to use this one. I really wish I could, because landscape would be sweet.
SmartGear: This one runs fast. Really fast. But the graphics are way off and I can't adjust them. It runs just a tiny box in portrait.
Lastly, I should note that I have tried and love ScummVM. If you're a fan of those old school games try it out! Monkey Island, baby.
maybe u shud try morphgear
Yeah, Morphgear is the one of the few that I haven't tried yet. I have to admit that I was hoping for a free solution, but I'll give it a shot and reply back with my experience.
Have you tried Morphgear on the Advantage?
I tried Morphgear, with the SNES plugin, and it looks very hopeful! I can get it to work in landscape at a good speed.
I'm still working on getting the keymapping right, and so far I haven't been able to get sound working. I'll let you know if I am able to get it going right.
Anyone happen to know where I can find a working link to Tala's OpenGL SNES emulator? If so, can you point me in the right direction? I'm not sure how it would work on my Advantage, but I'd like to give it a shot.
OpenGL On the Advantage/AMEO
I to have been trying to find an OpenGL driver for this phone for three days solid but I am pretty sure that it is not possible due to, if I remember correctly back in the day HTC crippled this functionality which led to talk up a clash action suit in the States for this and other HTC phones that doesn't support 3-D acceleration, or did I just dream that scenario?
As I have left this issue for over two years before searching a couple of days ago I was hoping that somebody in development in this forum would have found a way to get round this problem but last I think this phones development days are numbered, sadly.
There is nothing when you do a Google search and when you do a search in this forum you get the three results including this thread. I believe this thread answers our question, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670429&highlight=OpenGL
"HTC Sense uses opengl and it cannot run smoothly without a hardware accelerated opengl driver for the device.
As far as there is no hw opengl driver for Athena devices you won't see any ROM with Sense on Athena."
Such a shame as this phone with its fast CPU backing the day would have been awesome with 3-D acceleration.
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I to have been trying to find an OpenGL driver for this phone for three days solid but I am pretty sure that it is not possible due to...........
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I might have spoken too soon, I found this suggestion:
"Vincent ES 1.x is a 3D rendering library based on the OpenGL (R) ES 1.1 API specification (Common Lite) for embedded devices." http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogl-es/
,which worked okay but not brilliant for the Throttle Launcher Theme application. anyway it's a start and may be will be good enough for 3-D gamig on the advantage, see what you think.
I have no emulators to try it on but the instructions seemed to be drop it in the folder of the application you are using and it is detected so maybe you can see if it speeds up the emulator rendering?
Cheers
I didn't want to hijack the 'lack of stylus/capacitative screen' thread, but I currently have an original Tilt collecting dust while I've been using a borrowed iPhone 3G until something much better comes along (re: TP2, HD2, Droid??) etc
As mentioned in the other thread, one of the key differences between the iPhone and WinMo devices, is that iPhone developers knew they were developing for devices without styluses or d-pads or keyboards etc, so they suited the app for that experience.
With WinMo, there are so many great legacy applications (productivity and most notably games) that rely on a stylus and/or a dpad to successfully navigate and use the applications. I know from personal experience I was apt to use the stylus less and less on my Tilt because I was able to navigate menus quickly with the dpad etc when they were small.
I know the lack of d-pad is the new trend with a lot [most] WinMo devices and I was hoping someone could comment on that from a usability standpoint. I'm even thinking of simple games like Kevtris etc...I know for some games when you have an option to popup the onscreen keyboard that may alleviate some issues, but I know there are other games that go full screen and don't even remotely give that option...thoughts? Am I overlooking something here?
Thanks!
Don't know anything about Kevtris, but a lot of (if not most) games are unusable on Touch HD.
Apart from games, there are some situations when I miss a d-pad, usually in situations of scrolling through lists. Drop-down lists on web pages in Opera is an especially annoying example. In most other cases though there are arrow keys on the HTC keyboard, which do the job, but you only see half of the screen (the other one is occupied by the keyboard).
So, to summarize, lack of a d-pad is a problem sometimes, but on the other hand not a huge one really, and I wouldn't change my HD for anything but HD2, which also lacks one.
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So, to summarize, lack of a d-pad is a problem sometimes, but on the other hand not a huge one really, and I wouldn't change my HD for anything but HD2, which also lacks one.
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quoted for truth ...
When I first began using smartphones, my first one, the HTC Hermes, had a D-Pad. I have to admit, I was addicted to it instantly.
It made everything so simple. Controlling music, scrolling, and notably J2ME apps/games all worked better with it. When I had upgraded to a Fuze, I lost the D-Pad, and did miss it really badly at first. However, over time, I eventually stopped caring so much for it.
The way I used my device had to be adjusted, but it was nothing so major. However, if there is one thing that is annoying about lack of D-Pad, it is that many J2ME apps/games simply didn't work well without it. I got over that because many J2ME apps/games didn't work well with a VGA/WVGA screen either. Still, it was a rather significant blow.
Would I like a D-Pad on all my devices? Yes, but I no longer view it as necessary.
Thanks for the replies guys- it sounds like the consensus is that there is no good 'workaround', and that it's a legitimate issue, but in general the benefits/features of the new device outweigh those cons.
For lack of D-pad on games, someone here on xda has developed a software to use the accelerometer to send the d-pad buttons (not just for games actually).
I think's it's called gpad or something.
The software is still being developed but it allowed me to play worms on a device without d-pad.
There might be other software, anyone else found anything?
If we support developments like that, we can actually eliminate the 'worry' of not having a d-pad, and still enjoy our games, with more fun actually!
Yep, Virtual D-Pad v0.9 is the future way to go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466002
galaxys said:
Yep, Virtual D-Pad v0.9 is the future way to go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466002
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Awesome! This is why I love all the guys here!
hello, every body! (first post!)
great to see all the work done on this forum.
would be interested in HTC HD2, but lack of pad is really annoying. Lots of app need one, just for example navigate in calendar (agenda fusion for me.)
Could it be a solution to write a virtual keybord with ONLY the 4 arrows and an OK button? (and no others letters, to gain display space)
i am definitively not a developper, can't do anything about coding, sadly.
excuse me for my bad english, btw.
1otherfred
shouldnt be that hard, you have everything already, just rip out the arrows and ok button and replace them, or make new ones... unfortunatly im no coder, but maybe I can play around in photoshop/paint
I have developpid one, based on fingerkeyboard.
you can find it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483218
Hi guys,
SO glad tat I was able to find up this forum...I have a SE walkman series phone for the past 4 yrs and feel its time to change to some touch screen mobile. I have zilch knowledge abt smartphones and wat ever i know r based frm my 2 days of browsing this forum.
My issues are
1)Basically am not appl freak and want my phone to stand out from others..Does mini fit the bill..?that is I want a phone with touchscreen,decent cam, very good multimedia playback capacity,something sleek...and thats how I zeroed in on HTC Mini..
but after reading this forum., got 2 know tat not much appl's r developed for Mini becos of the screen size..(Is tat right..?)..
SO, after some point of time, after launch of Win 7 mob, will the case be like HTC Mini left alone..? I am investing close to 480$(Indian money) and want to find out that does HTC mini really have some shortcomings applications wise or is it enough for a normal user..?there r no smartphones among my friends...
2) we do not still have 3G networks here in India, but expected in 1-2 yrs..IS MINI WORTH SPENDING TAT AMOUNT (480$=24000 Indian rupees) wihtout 3G? Or can I go for low-end models like Nokia 5800 or HTC touch.. and jump the 3G ship wen it comes later?
Again, i am asking too many questions, but pls guide me...
THANKS..........
HD mini, regarding my point of view, a very nice device with a lot of preinstalled very nice apps.
The resolution is effectively a bit strange in Windows mobile environment, but it was the same and even worst when I purchased my Diamond with VGA screen.
Regarding applications, most of them work. Some qvga ones do not fit on the screen, it remains two black bands on top and bottom of the screen because of aspect ratio. But the applications, even a lot of high graphic games run well (secret of Da Vinci, return to mysterious island,...), even emulators such ScummVM.
I found a lot of chess games (majestic, Kasparov,..) they run really fine. I nevertheless had some difficult to find a good Sudoku, “Panoramic ultimate Sudoku” works very fine but it do not have problem solving mode.
In brief, screen resolution is not really an issue, but if you want to play some specific games such Play station emulator or other resource consuming games. In this case, HD2 should be a better choice.
You could also consider other OS such Android. For me there are not an option, because I live in a small town without 3G and downloading and syncing via phone line costs an arm and a leg. With winmo, I can natively upload all the things trough my PC, and it is just fine.
Each customer has different taste, that's why there are hundred of million of different phones out there. But from my personal point of view and for my needs, the Mini is just perfect for me.
Any other smartphone looks like a damn brick next to it, so yeah, it does stand out from others.
About the apps, I was worried about them, but for some reason all the apps I need work without a single problem in the Mini. iGo 8, MSS Converter, ClearTemp, Opera Mobile 10, Skype, Dictionary, TCPMP, Shazam Music, BSB Tweaks, JWMD IconChanger, PocketRAR, Midomi...
Personally I don't give a sh!t about Windows Phone 7, since it's gonna be more "phone like", while WM 6.5 is like having a small Pentium III in your pocket and that's why I like it.
Thanks a lot moscard and NitroNitrous. Positive comments do matter a lot for me..since its a one-time big "investment" for me.
I know its upto me to decide but just want to be well informed and do not want to be over excited.....also wat do you guys think abt the multimedia handling of the phone..does the processor seem dragged in case of heavy multimedia usage..? I would want to listen mp3's, check out tracks in radio and video songs..tat's it......
I do not think so, regarding my old Diamond, the HD mini is way ahead in performance. It is very responsive for all the daily tasks including photo, video, music, multi-media and so on. I use a Bluetooth headset and it connects almost immediately against the 10s used by my old Diamond.
Internet and remote desktop that I use often are simply wow. Do not worry about that. Some leaks, but nothing dramatic: Led flashing is less visible than on Diamond, there is no native voice tag for contacts, there is no native close or ok button especially for office applications. Nevertheless it is a lot nicer with real glass screen and crisp colours.
Another thing that annoying me a little bit regarding HD2, there is no electronic compass. This would be really usefull in hiking using navigators or google map.
I watch a movie almost every night in DVD quality and it handles it with no problem. Besides, with TCPMP player it can reproduce almost any video format. As for the music you just need a proper player like PocketPlayer 4, which is the one I use. It has everything you can ask for a music player. I have around 300 songs in the playlist and scrolling the list with the finger is always smooth.
There are some bad points also, but nothing new for someone who has used WM before and is not hard to get used to them.
my tp2 in the tmobile one unlocked so use orange and has an April 2010 version of athenos. are there any games 3d racing, fps, rts and other wise that suport the hardware keyboard and run well on this phone? i hate all the touch only nonsence trying to be an iphone. the difference between hermes and tytn2 with 2button press support was fantastic and if i can use the H/W keyboard it would make up for not having a dpad. I tried tony hawks 2 but runs upsidedown for me and about 5fps which is sad with little discernable difference after i renamed the dll in windows and moved the one in the th2 folder there.
im also gutted hardmarks scrabble doesnt work properly where the botton of the letter tiles is cut off.
finally is there opengl or 3d compatibility with the tp2? experience to date has been a little dissapointing and mobile shell 3.5 is a little laggy
thanks for any help you can throw my way
I've been disappointed by the amount of 3d games for our phones much less windows mobile .
Remember the phone is designed for business, but you can try an emulator. I use FPSEcE for PlayStation games. If you do enough reading on their forums you can get some good games running pretty well.
games
Well there are some fun games but not console type go on google and type
SuperMarioBros windows mobile
Xtracts windows mobile
Gears of War windows mobile
games
Ok there not much games right now for windows mobile but go to this website they have some freeware games made by independent developers like SuperMarioBrosHD , SuperMarioJump,Different pong versions, and Gears of War lite. Its located here
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com
thanks alot for the replies and the links. i found air hocky again something i had on the the tytn 2 but it never played great but it was playable but i was surprised to see it run slower on my tp2.
id love an accerlerometer controlled game like the ps3 game with ducks on a tray whatever it was called it was strangley addictive and great fun to have a try each when its cold n wet out side.
i also really want hankmark scrabble as it is the only properly playable version out there it allows you to move tiles arround freely, look up words the lot all other versions fall way behind but the tiles dont display in their entirety so you cant see what letters you have! such a shame. anyone know a work arround? wvgafix doesnt work just makes it worse.
finally tonyhawks. how DO i flip the screen the other way?
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thanks alot for the replies and the links. i also really want hankmark scrabble as it is the only properly playable version out there it allows you to move tiles arround freely, look up words the lot all other versions fall way behind but the tiles dont display in their entirety so you cant see what letters you have! such a shame. anyone know a work arround? wvgafix doesnt work just makes it worse.
finally tonyhawks. how DO i flip the screen the other way?
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I am in the same shoe as you! I had handmark's scrabble on my old I-Mate JAMin, but when I upgraded to Touch Pro 2 the CD wont install at all. So I bought a new Scrabble off Amazon and that wont work either. It needs "Palm Software" before it can install on my device. Handmark suggested I use a desktop running the XP but that did not work either. Handmark is essentially dancing around the issue of continued support for their Scrabble Software. When I asked them about the Scrabble being sold through 'Handango-in-Hand, they did not respond on that. If anybody here know how to make it work, please come to our aid.