I´ve been following with interest the porting of touchflo interface to non-Elf (Touch) devices.
There have been lots of requests for developing a cab with files n settings for such an interface. It has been suceesfully ported to custom ROMs for Artemis, wizard...., but developers say that there is no way to build just a cab.
not being a developer, i would like to know the rationale behind "cab is no possible", as i can not undestand why, if touch flow can be ccoked to a ROM, it can not be made into a cab. Surely there is an explanation.
(i ask this question because i´d rather keep the stock ROM until warranty period is over, but i want to use my device (Artemis) as much as possible without reverting to stylus)
The Problem is that the Touch.dll must be replaced with the one from HTC Touch... this is not possible.
Only before cooking the Rom you are able to replace System DLLs
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So the solution would be to make an installation rotine that unloads touch dll from memory, ,overwrites it with the replacement "flo" one, and then reload touch dll.
is that a workable solution under MsMobile platform?
Sorry if i´m proposing a nonsense, as i´m no programmer at all (just "hello world" stuff)
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
damac said:
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
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or just the cab being reinstalled after every hard reset?
The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device. Another reason is that the dll can not be changed after flashing the rom, has it is protected by the OS (not even using Total Commander...).
I try to overwrite Touch.dll via some program to replace the original Touch.dll.
After replace it, Touch-screen is no respond to any touch on the screen but Hardware button still working ,then I restore my device.
In my idea, I think Touch.dll is device specific and this file take control all of touch-screen. So Touch.dll cannot be replace by conventional method.
We have to rewrite Touch-Flo program to hook on another dll, e.g. Touch-Flo.dll. (This is just my theory) But I don't know "How to do it ?".
Does anyone have idea about it ?
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The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device.
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Well, until Tytn II(Kaiser) is released, the only touch-flo enabled phone that can be bought off the shelf is HTC Touch.
So all cooked ROMs for Artemis, Wizard.....that include touchflo, must include touchflo dlls extracted from HTC Touch ROM.
Then, my understanding is that, as these touch-flo ROM do actually run on devices other than HTC Touch, the dll´s needed must be not so "device specific" but (more or less) generic for QVGA devices without graphics processor (or at least for OMAP 200 devices).
maybe its not only touch dll, but also other files which have to be replaced by files from HTC Touch.
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
sirgawain123 said:
There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
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look in the wizard WM6 forum, there are several kitchen roms and links to OEM packs with all the touch stuf thats needed.
I agree ,
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
Marcos200 said:
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
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touchflo requires Touch.dll, and Touch.dll is not an application. Itz part of the OS which is device dependent. Unless someone writes a fully working touchflo cube, managed to remove the current touch.dll with his own dll, then it is portable from device to device.
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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funny thread in the sense some pple is asking the same again and again.
I would summarize state of art as follows:
-Some ROMs with Touch flo have been developed by forum members for devices other than HTC Touch.
-Touch flo files are available for those who want to cook their own ROM, at least for OMAP devices.
- As today,Touch flo files can not be installed in a device over an existing ROM because installation can not overwrite certain files as they are in use by the system.
Workaround (Yet To be made)would be an installation routine that unloads files to be replaced, and loads touchflo ones. This routine should be performed after every reset, as resets reloads the files from original ROM.
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
jorge_culv said:
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
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to get fingerscrolling you'll only need the touch.dll not othere file or regestry setting but somehow it doesn't seem to work for all devices. I don't know why... if it just can't work or no one figured it out yet?
The_hesham said:
Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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No it does not help.....
Is there any Hermes ROM cooked with TocuhFlo?
Gullum , i need help, please.
Gullum,
thnks for the very profecional good work, in all app, roms, foruns, etc.
one question,
i dont need flash my prophet (S200 pt), but i use all the finger friendly applications that we have in xda.
i looveeee the finger scroll applications.
but i have now 1.5 years waranty, and i dont need flash.
just the scrolling feature, the touch.dll, like you say, but i dont now how i need to just install that in my wm5 rom in portuguese.
is there a solution?? a cab, or just put oem files and replace the ones that i have. i use the touchnav application, but i need more, also use the very best iContact v3, but i need finguer scroll in all applications, like the touch
Thanks in advance,
Hi im currently running WM 6.1 Pro on a Orbit 2 device. Can anyone tell me if my device will handle the 3d touchflow interface, and if so which rom would be best to achieve this, and when can i get it. Im slightly new to this flashing lark, but flashed to 6.1 without any trouble.
i would suggest to check KhanX Touch Navia Lite ROM (maybe waiting for v1.5 would make sense) and Touchflo 3D thread in dev&hack.
Thanks for your response, but is there not a rom that will have the touch flow 3-d already within it. and i cannot seem to find Khanx rom downloads
For the time being KhanX only has Touch flo 2D although the 3D drivers are already included. The latest version is Navia 1.5 look for the sticky in the first page of Polaris upgrading etc.
right, i'm not sure if there's any ROM, that has TouchFlo 3D already included
therefore i recommend to go for Navia 1.5 Lite (once available) and install TF3D separately
Superb, i still cannot find these download areas, can you post links to download for the 1.5 Lite and tf3d
v1.5 is still not released, but check KhanX Touch Navia thread
TF3D is in Development & Hacking i believe
it's not really ready for day to day use but this rom has m3d
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435570
We need newer 3D drivers... With existing version doesnt work display on/off
Guys,
I have been browsing the Blackstone & Raphael forums where work is underway/already completed for porting the cool new TF3D from Touch Pro2 for those devices.
Any idea if we can expect the same for our very own Xperia also???
I saw that Dutty has cooked a ROM for Blackstone which has this TF3d built in along with all the add ons. Will this work on Xperia? Anyone know if there is a cab for just the manila which one can try on the Xperia instead of flashing the entire ROM???
Awaiting anxiously
itjes new rom has it.
Laurentis has packaged it, look in the BS rom forum..
Cabs???
Anywhere one can get the manila in cab format??? Dont really wish to flash the rom.
itje said he is working on the cabs i think.
a panel version would be great!!!
im also working on cab...
sorry to jump on a ask for even more, i don't want to sound ungrateful when all the guys are cooking so hard...but could we possibly have updated individual cabs for the dialer, task manager and comms manager from the new TouchPro2?
please please please!
Hi, i'd like to know if it's possible to install htc touchflo 3d on a rom without Manila (for example the original rom by Acer) or if i'm obliged to install one of the rafyvitto's roms (beautiful but in english) with manila and touchflo...thank you very much
jackal992 said:
Hi, i'd like to know if it's possible to install htc touchflo 3d on a rom without Manila (for example the original rom by Acer) or if i'm obliged to install one of the rafyvitto's roms (beautiful but in english) with manila and touchflo...thank you very much
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no cann't
Install htc touch flo 3d for original rom
Hisham alshaeer said:
no cann't
Install htc touch flo 3d for original rom
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http://www.freeza-inc.com/freezaROM/OEMCAB/ , there you will find a manila 2.5 cab that you can install, you might need other cab's form there, also depends of what error's manila might give you, i dont know cause i havent test it my self, also none of that is my works give complete credits to freeza roms.
Again NONE of what you find in that website is my work NOTHING!, thats all from freeza give him the credits not me.
I'm still running the stock AT&T rom on my tilt 2 and the version of touchflo 3d that I have is 2.1.19183217.0
anyways I would like to use cookies home tab mainly so i can customize the walpaper for all of the touch flo screens, and not just the home tab. but it requires version 2.5 and I haven't seen anything about updating the sense version. I'd rather not go through the trouble of flashing a new rom if i don't have to. or if there is another program that would work for version 2.1 that would be fine too.
To get Sense 2.5, you must have a rom flashed to your phone that has it preinstalled. There is no upgrading Manila without flashing a new rom.
Well not sure if you can "upgrade" manila to 2.5 or if you'd need to uninstall (?) it but here is a link to a cab that is manila 2.5.
http://www.freeza-inc.com/freezaROM/OEMCAB/fi. Sense - 2.5.2011.3030 for WM6.1 beta.cab
And here is a link to a lot of different files that you might find interesting.
http://www.freeza-inc.com/freezaROM/OEMCAB/
Use HDWalls, if all you want is to have the same background in all tabs. You don't need Sense 2.5/Co0kie's for that.