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How to Change and keep Keyboard, please!!

Hi, How can i change the keyboard to another and make it stay after reset?
I change it with the little arrow next to keyboard icon at bottom, but when i restart it reverts back to default one.
I am using bepe's no tom rom.
Thanks

Install this SIP changer cab onto your device. Then access program from the programs folder, select your preferred layout as default... job done

Great, thanks needed also

luuurvly!!! Thanks Very Much!!!

Thanks great work

Change default SIP (Sofware Input Panel)
I installed Spb Full Screen Keyboard and wanted to make it the default SIP (Sofware Input Panel). Some of the pre-installed input methods I never use, hence disable them makes sense. Here are some registry modifications I use.
1. Use a tool like SIPchange to change your default input method.
2. Disable an input method
Disable a keyboard/input method (disable=0,enable=1)
E.g. Disable Transcriber:
KEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F0034DD0-2AD4-11D1-9CB0-E84BE8000000}\IsSIPInputMethod\(Default) = 0
E.g. Letter Recognizer:
KEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod\(Default) = 0
More $SIP_CLSID$ keys
{198D503A-EFFE-4AFD-BC54-EED333C80E6D} = TOUCH KEYPAD
{62B00599-25D2-4E09-8C48-03BF26DB8517} = TOUCH KEYBOARD
{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} = Letter Recognizer
{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} = Block Recognizer
{F0034DD0-2AD4-11D1-9CB0-E84BE8000000} = Transcriber
{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} = Keyboard
{51A2CB38-154E-4C92-A625-A83871C99EC2} = Phone pad

Little bit off topic, but any idea how to really disable XT9? There has been cab etc. around, but they never really worked for me. Every now and then XT9 is on by default when starting to write SMS for example = very annoying.

Yeah i have a similar problem!
i never use the touch keyboard or keypad. but when i use the normal keyboard with stylus that freaking black word-completion bar pops up. even when im in transcriber-mode and want to use that mini-keymap which has only the symbols and digits on it, that bar pops up and even obstructs the minikeymap. that means, when i want to enter a number like 1982, i press 1, then the bar pops up and i have to confirm the one in order to make that ****ty bar disappear and be able to press the 9! means, i have to do every entry twice!!
i thought, this is because word completion is on (even though i didnt understand why there should be word completion in transcriber or a full keyboard), but even after disabling word completion it remains the same. i found out, the only way is to switch to the touch-keyboard or pad and there switch from xt9 to abc-mode. then switch back to keyboard or transscriber and it works, the black bar doesnt appear on every entry.
this is annoying but would be acceptable if it had to be done once every time i switch on the phone.
BUT: as soon as i exit the word doc (because of an incoming call or just because i left it untouched too long and the screen switches off) and enter again, the same freaking problem araises again!
this really drives me nuts, please help me anyone! i have tried disabling the touch keypad and keyboard, but the keyboard still remains the default sip and the problem is the same still..
if anyone has an idea, please tell me!!!!
thanxinadvance

mlehtola said:
Little bit off topic, but any idea how to really disable XT9? There has been cab etc. around, but they never really worked for me. Every now and then XT9 is on by default when starting to write SMS for example = very annoying.
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This works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1712507&postcount=2

Hi,
I'm looking for a HTC keyborad like those inside bepe's Polaris 0.67 ROM...
The white three combination of keyboard... (Touch Keyboard, Touch Keypad and Touch Qwerty)
Anyone can give me the .cab file?
Thank's in advance
BYE, Bobo

The sipchange Cabs do not seem to work for me. I am using the Aserg ROM and the PCM keyboard, but even after installing the sip cab, it tells me that the sip is not defaulted to the PCm keyboard.
Any ideas if this sip change cab works with the Aserg Rom or what I need to set to make this work?

kwabbernootje said:
I installed Spb Full Screen Keyboard and wanted to make it the default SIP (Sofware Input Panel). Some of the pre-installed input methods I never use, hence disable them makes sense. Here are some registry modifications I use.
1. Use a tool like SIPchange to change your default input method.
2. Disable an input method
Disable a keyboard/input method (disable=0,enable=1)
E.g. Disable Transcriber:
KEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F0034DD0-2AD4-11D1-9CB0-E84BE8000000}\IsSIPInputMethod\(Default) = 0
E.g. Letter Recognizer:
KEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod\(Default) = 0
More $SIP_CLSID$ keys
{198D503A-EFFE-4AFD-BC54-EED333C80E6D} = TOUCH KEYPAD
{62B00599-25D2-4E09-8C48-03BF26DB8517} = TOUCH KEYBOARD
{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} = Letter Recognizer
{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} = Block Recognizer
{F0034DD0-2AD4-11D1-9CB0-E84BE8000000} = Transcriber
{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} = Keyboard
{51A2CB38-154E-4C92-A625-A83871C99EC2} = Phone pad
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Thanks for this but I have a problem:
"{62B00599-25D2-4E09-8C48-03BF26DB8517}" seems to disable the keyboard but how do you disable the QWERTY?

Bobo Xni said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a HTC keyborad like those inside bepe's Polaris 0.67 ROM...
The white three combination of keyboard... (Touch Keyboard, Touch Keypad and Touch Qwerty)
Anyone can give me the .cab file?
Thank's in advance
BYE, Bobo
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I need the stock Touch Cruise keyboards/keypads CAB too please! just installed Khanx but it's missing.
cheers,

this works great
sorry wrote this on the wrong thread

Any way to arrange order of SIP, or flawlessly disable Diamond's QWERTY?

Hi all,
I don't like Diamond's QWERTY input method and would like to move them out from the first page for input method selection screen. Is there anyway to do it?
I tried to use registry to disable the 2 QWERTY input methods along with the phone pad input method. But when I pull up the input selection screen, their original buttons will become black buttons
If there is no way to change the input method order, then is there anyway to disable QWERTY flawlessly?
Please help.

anyone know?

i also like to find out

+1 I have a qwerty keyboard on FRENCH AZTOR v6 ROM?
But normaly a AZERTY...

Who here uses the Letter Recognizer for input?

I have a question for those of you (if any) who are using the letter recognizer, the block recognizer, or the original Windows Mobile keyboard as your input method on the Touch HD: Do you get word completion pop-ups?
I'm a long-time WM user (the Touch HD is my fifth WM device) and the letter recognizer is my preferred method of input and one of the reasons I like it is the convenience of not having to type entire long words most of the time, with the ability to simply pick from the completion suggestions pop-up instead. However, I get no completion pop-up on the Touch HD when I use the letter recognizer. The same is true for the block recognizer and the WM keyboard as well. Am I alone in experiencing this? Am I alone in being annoyed by this? What gives?...

I use the Letter Recognizer and find it faster than any of the keyboard. Make sure you enable T9 in the default keyboard and word completion will be available. I thought I lost it too when I accidentally disabled T9.

Thanks for your response. This tells me that something might be wrong on my device, because I get no word completion pop-ups even when I do that.
Here are all of my current settings related to this:
On the Full QWERTY keyboard, the "ABC <-> T9" slider is set to T9.
On the Compact QWERTY keyboard, the "ABC <-> T9" slider is set to T9.
Under "Touch Input Settings", "Word Completion in T9 mode" is selected, "Word Completion in ABC mode" is selected, "Auto-Substitution" is deselected, "Spell Correction" is deselected.
Under the input "Options" (the original WM input options), on the "Word Completion" tab, "Suggest words when entering text" is selected. (The "Suggest after entering" setting is "2 letters", the "Suggest" setting is "4 words", and "Add a space after word" is deselected.) And "Enable Auto Correct" is deselected.
Still no word completion suggestion pop-ups...
I have no idea what could be wrong!
If there's anyone out there with additional insight into this, your feedback would be appreciated. You might be my only hope.

It's odd, I set mine to the "phone keypad" and now it wont go back to any of the others, I've tried them all, selected them, go back in and *poof* it's gone back to a standard phone layout. Turning it on and off failed to fix this so I'm presuming I'm going to have to reset

I have the same problem here too.
What keyboards do you have installed? I have the SPB Keyboard, reckon that might affect things??
All my settings are the same as above...and HD Tweak says T9 and word completion are on. T9 and word completion wwork fine on the keyboards but not the letter/block recogniser.

I don't have any third party keyboard installed (if I don't count the HTC stuff that came with the phone). I do have a bunch of other software installed, on the other hand. But, I don't think any of those have anything to do with input methods (although, it's hard to discount "unintended consequences"...).
I must add that suggestions don't work for me on the Windows Mobile default keyboard either. (I'm not sure if you implied that it works on yours.)
So, my exact situation is as follows:
HTC Full QWERTY keyboard:
Suggestions displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
HTC Compact QWERTY keyboard:
Suggestions displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
HTC Phone keypad:
Suggestions (surprisingly) displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
Windows default keyboard:
No suggestions
Letter recognizer:
No suggestions
Block recognizer:
No suggestions
Suggestions aren't applicable to the Transcriber, naturally.

Perhaps I should have tried this much sooner, but it just occurred to me to try a wider Google search on this topic, and I came across another thread on this site that seems like it might contain the solution(s):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441656&highlight=word+completion
I'm at work right now, so I can't try it right away, but I'll surely do it as soon as I get home. If anyone else with this problem is willing to try that before me, please let us know about the result.

gadgetuk437 said:
I have the same problem here too.
What keyboards do you have installed? I have the SPB Keyboard, reckon that might affect things??
All my settings are the same as above...and HD Tweak says T9 and word completion are on. T9 and word completion wwork fine on the keyboards but not the letter/block recogniser.
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I use the phone keypad on mine and it was fine up until yesterday.
The only thing it gives now is numbers! every other method of text input appears to be ok

Strange, I have had no issues with word complete as long as T9 is selected in the default HTC Full QWERTY keyboard or any of the HTC keyboard. Had this issue with my Omnia in the past where if T9 is activated, the Word Complete pop-up won't work and I had to do a registry tweak to enable word complete, after which T9 is disabled in the other keyboards.

One questoin from a newbie -
i have a problem that I can not menege to use Letter Recognizer.
In settings for inpust I select Letter Recognizer. And confirm.
But always I get keybord. If I open settings again the Full Querty is chosen.
thanx

sorry - I've read the f... manual
I was to lazy

xmaspast said:
I use the phone keypad on mine and it was fine up until yesterday.
The only thing it gives now is numbers! every other method of text input appears to be ok
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I had a similar problem on my rom (German) after setting T9 to enabled in HD Tweak. Setting T9 in the keyboard settings is fine but you might wanna try to deactivate it in HD Tweak if you enabled it there before.

should it only work when T9 is on ? Or should it also be on when you use ABC?
Cause I would like to have it on when I enabled ABC

I use the letter recogniser about 50% of the time.. I find it slightly quicker than the keyboard on WM.. However as a long time user of UIQ... SE P800/900/990/1 I wish there was something similar to the letter recogniser available on those?? Any one know? It was so logical.. Use the lower half of the screen for letters, top for numbers, and straddle the middle for capitals.. Not like WM where you are restricted to a small box at the bottom.
anyone know if you can get this for WM6.1?

Well, I'm happy to report that the solution explained in the post at the following URL has done what I was trying to achieve (post #8 on that thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2630663&postcount=8
This brings back the word completion pop-up lists on the standard Windows Mobile input methods. It does eliminate the HTC word completion on the HTC input methods, though (including T9, which makes the Compact QWERTY useless for typing words). But, if you're not interested in those input methods and all you want is to be able to use the Letter Recognizer, Block Recognizer, or WM keyboard with word completion, this may be your solution. (Naturally, try it at your own risk...)

memko123 said:
sorry - I've read the f... manual
I was to lazy
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How exactly did you get the Letter Recogniser to work? I used to have it in the OEM ROM but my Enable_recognisers.cab doesn't seem to work on Dutty's 2.1 xtreme ROM.... or is it me??

Transcriber alternative for leo roms

Since transcriber is not included in leo roms, I am not able to use KUMA chinese handwriting recognition input. Are there any alternatives to use chinese handwriting input with a touch HD using a leo rom?
Thanks!!
EDIT/UPDATE:
I was able to use use sipchange to bring up the kuma chinese handwriting recognition block. But it is kinda annoying to use sipchange every time when I switch between normal US keyboard and chinese input. It would be ideal to have that transcriber option on the menu so that I can change between on the fly.
Hope this helps others on the same boat. Any way to integrate it into the keyboard option menu is greatly appreciated.
EDIT/UPDATE 2:
I installed the enabletranscriberwwe.cab and was able to use transcriber and block recognizer in the leo rom. But same problem exists that I can choose them in the SIP menu. I have to use sipchange to choose. Again, anyone knows how to integrate these into the keyboard menu (the little keyboard icon at the bottom when you type)? I tried to search but couldnt find anything related. But if there is a double post please let me know and point me to the right direction. Thanks!

Aright guys, I just found a better way to include the chinese handwriting option in the SIP without installing anything. This simply disable the Ezinput 2.1 display. Just install your chinese handwriting cab (KUMA in my case) and do the following. Hope this helps. Enjoy~!
Registry change:
HKLM>Software>HTC>ezsip>"EnableSipMenu change to "0"
Softreset
EDIT:
Btw, you get the block recognizer and letter recognizer back in the SIP option.

install finger keyboard , then you will have chinese and english keyborad

It is not about the chinese or english keyboard, it is the letter recognizer meaning to say that you write chinese or english using the stylus.

Help with text input settings

I just got Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 windows mobile 6.5. The only options it gives me for text input are full qwerty, compact qwerty and phone keypad. I found transcriber in the windows directory & am able to use it. However, there used to be something called "keyboard" which I really liked and I can't find it anywhere. Can anyone help me. Thanks for your help.

Hey,
When you are in your text field at the bottom of the screen you should see a keyboard icon. I know on 6.1 it is between your two reply and menu I believe in 6.5 it so n the side.
When you click it, it opens your keyboard then there should be a little arrow beside that icon click on the arrow.
This should give you the options of phone keypad, Full QWERTY and keyboard. under those will be other input methods which have transcriber keyboard, letter recognizer and block recognizer.
If some things arnt there then sprint may of had them removed and you might want to look on the forms to find a CAB for a new keyboard.

thanks for the help. i guess sprint did remove them, because they just aren't there. does anyone know of a cab file that would restore them?