I have been working on a new version of the Wizard wiki for most of the day. I think the old one is badly organized and hard to navigate. However, I kept most of the same information. The links at the bottom were on the original wiki also, except they link to forum topics; I think that they are important enough to be turned into their own wiki pages. I don't mind doing this but I want to get some feedback from the community first... Reply and tell me if you think I am wasting my time, if you think I am doing a good job, what should be added/removed, what should be changed, etc. etc.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_New
(If it becomes good enough I hope to make it the main Wizard wiki page...as I said, I find the current one hard to navigate.)
Hi,
as you have propably noticed there's couple discussions going on about the forum and some "experts" leaving it etc..
Good structure is very important for wiki and also for forums. So I think you've done a good job there...especially I like the idea to turn certain stuff to their own pages, links to the forum threads are just too messy.
I just finished transferring "How to determine if you have a G3 or G4 Wizard" and "How to SIM unlock and SuperCID unlock a G3 Wizard" into wiki format. Could (a few) people please proofread and triple-check these for me, I don't want anyone to ruin their device because of a misprint or a confusing sentence.
I would suggest you taking the hermes wiki as template for your structure / organization:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Well done Lee1733.
I have often thought the wiki was out of date and in need of some tidying up. The search facility on these boards is becoming unusable due to thread hijacking and repated posts. I pity new users who have to wade through pages of threads to find a simple answer. A good tip is to use google to search xda-developers as it does a better job of sorting the wheat from the chaff. Perhaps a link to google this site as well as the default search should be put in the header of each page.
The wiki is the best place for FAQs but it is down to all of us to keep it upto date.
I just finished adding/editing the "How to Change the Wizard's Splash Screens" and "How to 'Cook' an Extended Rom" pages. I basically copied this straight from http://www.molski.biz (and gave him credit at the bottom) so they should be correct. The only changes I made were some minor Wiki formatting changes.
This forum has a lot of information and a lot of input and applications and downloads. I recently started coming here a few weeks ago and little by little have gotten through quite a few threads and downloaded some amazing stuff. However, it's been difficult at best and quite slow and tedious and I know there is still lots of stuff I'm missing.
What I was thinking is how it would be great if we had one unified post that summarized and organized some of the most popular applications that are available here. Something like:
Best Music Players
--HTC Audio manager
--Mort Player
--etc.
Best Browser
--Opera Mini
--Picsel
--Skyfire
--etc.
Best locking program
--S2U2
--etc.
and so on, with the download links next to them. This would make referencing certain applications easy to find and download for all from various threads. With a few people in charge to moderate the thread, updates could easily be done as people post as they arrive or to alert others and then subsequently deleted.
I'm not sure if this has been brought up or attempted before, but I wanted to throw it out there. Please feel free to close or lock this thread if necesssary mods.
I would also add that some polls could be set up initially to identify some of these key applications to set up a "standard" list of applications that most users here should at least be familiar with and/or have on their devices.
Thanks and hope this idea helps out others if it's put forth.
Chain Fire's WMWIFI ROUTER
Slither's HTC CUBE Clone ( flash version )
Slither's HTC Cube ( C++ version )
Throttle Launcher
will add more later
Best Music Player:
Pocket Melody
Best Browser:
NetFront Browser 3.5
Best contact App :
-- PocketCM 0.19b !!
I can't find the pocket melody thread... can some one gimme a link...
Thanks
Sorry, but before this thread becomes very crowded and yet another "must have" list that gets lost in the realms of the web: Wouldn't it be better to do this in the XDA-Wiki?
Here's a good starting point.
A sticky hint might be a good idea, though, you've got to scroll the Wiki main page for a while to find it...
Mort said:
Sorry, but before this thread becomes very crowded and yet another "must have" list that gets lost in the realms of the web: Wouldn't it be better to do this in the XDA-Wiki?
Here's a good starting point.
A sticky hint might be a good idea, though, you've got to scroll the Wiki main page for a while to find it...
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Thank you. That's exactly the type of format I'm looking for. I didn't want everyone to just come and start posting their favorite programs but instead to have ONE post that combined them all. I just don't know enough of them and haven't been around long enough to even begin to compile it.
That wiki page looks great. I just hope someone that has a little time and the desire to do this could pull it off. I just don't have either nor the knowledge to put out something that would be helpful. Thanks for the reply.
best tweaker
schaps config tool
Nice looking interface - Wisbar Advance Desktop
Best theme bars and text color changer:
RC Mod v.2.1 by o3blig
We should have official polls on what are the best apps for each category.
That way, the best of the best will show themselves and those who are not yet enlightened, WILL be.
It will also clear up arguments and let popularity decide.
Please move this thread somewhere else
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Agreed. Should be in general.
hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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Yes, use search and don't post new threads.
What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
Well, just to give the benefit of the doubt, try VITO's SMS-Chat (not free). PocketCM is probably the slickest Threaded SMS that's FREE, so I'm sticking to it for my needs. However, many of VITO's iWindowsMobile programs seem to um... "draw inspiration" from tene's PocketCM suite, and thus, the iPhone. Check them out.
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I have to give them the benefit of the doubt the first time I see it from them. As a beginner I was initially intimidated by the elitist behavior of some board members here.
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What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
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Dude, no doubt. Look and your and I's join date versus the number of posts or threads we have started. Its amazing. Don't get me wrong I know I did it as a newb too but dang. It is getting out of hand. before long all of the worlds best devs will leave this site for lack of control!!!
FYI, giving them answers in these new repeat threads only goes to encourage the behaivor.
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
even if this is a developer forum, which surely is True to sharing and creating ideas (or softwares) - no doubt, the notion Helping one another should never be disregarded..
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i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Partially true. The evil you are describing is a turn earn system. The reason why this site is getting so difficult search is because tollerance has allowed newbs to continue to post new threads with out any restraint and it spreads the answers to common or frequently asked questions everywhere. IMO what needs to happen is a requirement needs to be established for new threads to be started. That would solve it.
ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
ytsejam_ said:
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
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Hence why I explained SMS-Chat. There's no point if this thread turned into a discussion thread over the merits of searching, but I do know that there has been an absolute backlog of uninformed posts that could easily be searched. Often times, I even see posts stating "too many pages to read, so i'll ask this again..." or "i'm too lazy to read this whole thread, can anyone just give me a quick answer..." or "i'm new here. i want my phone to look like the iphone. i found some links, but i don't know what a cab is. this is getting annoying "
It's frustrating. Another example is the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 Skin Collections thread. It states in the first post that the thread should just be for skins, yet I see way too many posts saying "Thanks" and not much else. I'm against flaming myself, but I'd just like to point out that afarinella97, the OP, has actually been a member of this forum for longer than I have.
Btw:
VITO SMS-Chat
Palm Threaded SMS
Birdsoft Extreme Text
Windows Mobile 6.1 Built-in Threading
Like I said, I stick with PocketCM. There have been requests for the developer to make the SMS standalone, but nothing's occurred yet. Have fun texting!
tguerena said:
Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
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As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
why not open a new section called 'Questions' for anyone with questions to post there? ... most likely they'll never get answered but at least they wont be posted over here !!!
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
afarinella97 said:
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
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hi you have to try vijay phone tools , Search that (on google ), I don't have just now in my hand ( I can find the cabor link but afeternoon)but I can say you it allows you to have sms models , vey easy use , I have unistalled it but it is very good work from vijay555 (moderator ere) and install pocket cm keyboard 0.13 for the SIP
I'm not Ok with those who flame noobs systematically , the search function is not easy here. For me I have a look on this forum to see if new subjects , and also I'm using google search and subscrbe to thread here
there are too many things for a new one here , it is really very great , so help them as you wanted to be helped in your beginning
Cheers to all
curious george said:
As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
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As a matter of fact poophead, I do search and I search often and frequently. And yes I said poophead not because I'm a 3rd grader, but alas because you're a poophead. All I was trying to say is be nice, us "noobs" search more than you think.
As a recent newbie, I do feel obligated to say a few things here:
Things to do for newbies:
1) Read
2) Read
3) Read
I discovered the site (from a link on fatwallet) after I bought my tmobile wing last October. Ever since then I was doing a lot of reading (more than what I do with my major - my advisor absolutely hates that, and so does my wife too), and learned a lot about the roms, terminology, great apps, etc.
I do not discourage asking questions, but I do think as newbie the question should be asked INTELLIGENTLY, which comes from a person who has done the reading and given a lot of thought about it. Frankly, I think OP's question is one of those.
As for the rest of us (elite, non-newbie, etc), a question should be judged by the quality, but not by the question mark. OP's question, for example, he/she understand what he/she is after, but don't quite understand the details which is OK. Given a few hints then he/she can start searching for the real thing. Azimuth21 has given some examples of bad questions and those should definitely not tolerated.
In general the question should be asked at the appropriate place; either the thread that directly concerning the topic (like PointUI, pocketcm, S2U2, etc) or at the general section of this forum. After all, the general section is there for this purpose.
Wtf is wrong with people here?
The thread has become an off-topic ranting thread already.
Best approach for such questions would be to either not reply or answer it without ranting about not using search and go.
Eg.
Newbie:
"hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?"
Reply:
"Tene (the developer of PCM) did not provide a separate module of PCM for just SMS, in other words, it's not possible to get just the SMS feature of PCM. You can try looking for Vito SMS (commercial app) or upgrading to WM6.1 for the threaded SMS style. Good luck."
See how simple and peaceful that is? And you have provided all necessary information. Can't we all just get along?
Like a famous dev here once said: "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers."
because people dont know HOW to search properly. when you click search at the top here you can use the forum search and type in sms and click ONLY search the thread titles. this GREATLY reduces the numbers of hits for the word sms which would be hundreds of threads. i just typed threaded sms into google and got a slew of good programs right on the first results page- iwindowsmobile, palm's, txtman, etc etc.
People honestly dont try because i bet everything i own there are at LEAST 10 similar threads of this exact same topic out there with the answers too. How many times can the same basic questions be asked and answered? This just dilutes the real content of this developing forum which is for new programs and hacks and such.
all threads like this end up doing is making even MORE search results confusing the next batch of noobs with even more results when trying to search.
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/02/18/txtman-20.html
the0ne said:
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
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Well, WM6.1 has exactly the same feature as a standard...
And doubling what Azimuth21 said, I'd rather stick with PocketCM.
And.. my penny for the discussion: exactly, as DaVince said - if you don't want to answer, do not.
I agree that all the searching difficulties arose from not keeping the forum clean, but now it is done, you can't reverse it.... searching for something so generic is almost impossible here.
Newbie
As a newbie myself I can say that at first it is not common sense navigating the forum. I found that just reading through the pages (new posts, hermesm6 etc.) and being patient some other ignorant sap had the same questions and concerns I had. Us newbies just need to be patient and enjoy the process or READING and not just come here to suck out what they need and not enjoy the forum. There are so many things of interest here and to just spend all this time looking up an sms app. Anyway, hope the newbie can flash, I had the same issue. for me it was a memory consumption issue with pocketcm. I like the 6.1 threaded sms due to its intergration. I would also suggest searching for threaded sms as this is what you are really looking for. I don't think you are looking for anything sms. Also when searching try to select show posts only this seems to work well for me. Enjoy the ride, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaad!
Oh look, I'm a member now, WHOOPIE!!
Can anyone provide me with that?
yes, search on the forum and you'll find one.
I found it this morning on the blackstone forum.
here's a clue type ie6 cab blackstone into the google search at the top of the search screen
if you're quick, you might even find it on the third thread on the results of your search.
of course if there's another 30 threads asking exactly the same thing then you may start to struggle, which is why all new users are asked to SEARCH before posting.
It makes it bloody hard to find anything after a bit, because the forum becomes full of threads asking the same thing!
i did a search and i don't find. easy to say:"take the search function". it's boring to read this answer at each question...
fards already did a search and found it. he was even kind enough to tell you where exactly to get it, short of giving you the url.
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i did a search and i don't find. easy to say:"take the search function". it's boring to read this answer at each question...
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Well if you can't abide by the RULESOf the forum then I suggest you don't post at all.
sorry for boring you so much that you felt the need to take time to post that, but there aren't many rules here but one of them is to learn how to use the search!
use skyfire, quite good for videos
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use skyfire, quite good for videos
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Yes I do agree that Skyfire is good for videos esp flash porn...lol but doesnt render text that well.
Thanks for help...
I didn't find it. I'm not the only guy having difficulties to get IE6 cab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484409
I liked IE6 on a win6.5 rom but i prefer win 6.1 . So i think we have to wait specific IE6 for windows mobile 6.1. I'll don't wait help in this topic...
i did what fards said and managed to find the cab.
For people who have better things to do than sift around for a few hours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466899
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461717
Haven't installed yet. Please stop posting threads like this which make searching next to impossible - and others please stop saying "just search" - it isn't that easy with so many useless threads.
EDIT: GODDAMN! Neither of these work! Where is the real CAB????
EDIT No.2: Seems that IE6 is not available as a CAB. According to some, at least: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473647
Hi
Please could someone tell me how i install themes on my touch hd? If someone could tell me what sofware i need and where to get them it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Please use the find function first, there are several threads on this...
i have treid and i still dont understand, maybe ive been lookin in the wrong places.
First of all, your query is theme related so should be in the Themes, Applications and Software forum.
Secondly, once you're in this forum go to search option and type in 'Theme' or 'themes' etc and you'll be presented with theme options!! The wiki also provides info on how to modify your HD's appearance.
Thirdly, in future try a little more searching!!
firstly - thank you
secondly - i did do alot of searching
and thirdly -
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firstly - thank you
secondly - i did do alot of searching
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Well obviously you didn't search very hard as the Themes, Applications and Software forum is full of themes and installation methods
Just did a quick search and found Maxycy's theme maker v2
Also, no need for language. People in this community do share knowledge and help each other. I pointed you in right direction and you throw it back in my face!! Then you say you did a lot of searching? I for one don't believe you!! Tried searching myself and after 2 secs after I found something!!
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adz_rolls no need for the comment you made. You were pointed in the right direction. Consider this a warning in the future it could result in a temp/perm ban. Thread closed
Let's play nice, no need for name calling
Question answered - Thread closed.
Dave
What Fallen spartan is trying to do, in his own way is try to get new members onboard of the XDA spirit of researching and reading to get done what they are trying to do.
Sometimes there just is no anwser to a question but most of the time you will find it documented somewhere.
It is known that the Forum search is not the best in the world.
That's why there are some tips to be found on the forum on how to search XDA using Google.
Or you can try the custom XDA search Plug inin my Signature.
The good thing is that Fallen Spartan did not need to resort to NameCalling.
(DagNabbit DaveShaw Beat me to it already)