Hi,
I noticed that with PPC2002 v 1.2 SE my gsm signal was about 3 or 4 bars. When I upgraded to PPC2003 v 4.00.05 my signal was about 2 or 3 bars.
Does anyone know how this is possible?
Jeffrey
I think they discovered that the signal indicator was lying (saying 'full signal' way too soon), and they made it more honest so that it would actually be useful.
Almost...
From what I can see here in my cradle, which is in the same place for a year now:
When the indicator says: "no signal", it means "reasonable signal".
When it says 1, 2 or 3, it means "Perfect Signal". Confusing.
Thnx for yours reply. Thought so, because I had good phone quality with lower signal.
@Bigrick
How do you like 4.00.10. Have you removed the T-mobile stuff? (how?)
Actually I was a bit disappointed at first too, thinking that the signal was weaker, but I noticed I get better signal now, both for voice and GPRS. I noticed because I can call and connect to the web in areas that I could not before, even if the signal indicator says no signal.
Hi All,
Im on Orange with my M5000, however I have noticed that when my 'G' (GPRS) symbol is showing I have good signal strength (exactly as I used to with my M2000) however whenever the phone switches to '3G' symbol my signal strength drops by 1 to 2 bars, which thens means in a lot of cases its not enough to hold a voice signal.
What can be done about this as Orange seems to have great 3G coverage (i nearly always have a 3G data connection which works fine, I just wish I could use it as a phone too.
Cheers
Shaun
Shaunfarris said:
Hi All,
Im on Orange with my M5000, however I have noticed that when my 'G' (GPRS) symbol is showing I have good signal strength (exactly as I used to with my M2000) however whenever the phone switches to '3G' symbol my signal strength drops by 1 to 2 bars, which thens means in a lot of cases its not enough to hold a voice signal.
What can be done about this as Orange seems to have great 3G coverage (i nearly always have a 3G data connection which works fine, I just wish I could use it as a phone too.
Cheers
Shaun
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Thats odd mines the reverse!!
On my M2000 and M5000 the G signal is about 2 bars, when the 5000 has U coverage my bars are full.
Matt
i live in Greece and i recently bought a cingular 8525 through ebay. the device is in great condition but i have very poor gsm signal. i live in an area with great reception of my provider, my nokia used to have 3 to 4 bars with 4 bars as maximum, but the cingular had at most 2 bars... i tried several roms and several radios from 147 to 154.30.something but with no result. i tried auto band, manual band, everything but it still has no reception or very poor, as i said the most 2 bars. my provider is also 3g gsm 900/1800, the sim card is brand new.
if you need more info please tell me.
if you have any idea or plain advise i will be greatfull.
thank you.
Less number of reception bar on the today screen doesn't mean that you have poor reception. Are you getting call drop or slow data connection? That should be your concern. Becuase with 6.1 roms sometimes I see a cross on data connection even though actual data flow is normal. You can also try "FieldTest". And see what is reception strength. It can be downloaded from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274269
I don't use rom 6.1. I use pandoranaked 3.60 and radio 1.48.10. I have no reception. I can't receive text messages nor calls. Is it possible the phone is bricked? How can I easily see for myself? Because I am rather confused from what I have read on the sites.
noone else another oppinion about my problem? any other advise? something to look for?
Hello All,
I just recently purchased the AT&T nexus one and I just want to make sure my understanding of my question is correct or not. I have noticed that when I am at my house and if I have 3g enabled the signal bars next to the 3g icon are somewhere between 2-4 bars and are always fluctuating, But if i enable the option for use only 2G networks obviously the H or 3g icon disappear and the EDGE icon shows up but the signal strength is at a full 5 bars all the time not fluctuating. It was my understanding that the signal strength bars were completely seperate from the 3g or 2g icons. I thought that the signal strength bars represent my cell signal and whatever icon showed up was the data coverage in the area but they aren't related? Is this correct or is it that the signal strength bars represent the signal of the 3g or 2g?
The signal strength bar represents the 2g or3g signal strength.
Both of you are correct. To make calls or text the signal bars are need to use data the icons are needed.
But you don't make calls on 3g or edge. So I don't understand why the signal strength bars are lower when on 3g as opposed to edge unless its wat the first Guy said. And that doesn't seem correct cause that's basically saying my cell service is worse and I would have a higher chance of getting dropped or no calls at all when I am on 3g as opposed to edge.
not sure about your networks but on every other 3G network you make both call and data,,,
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But you don't make calls on 3g or edge. So I don't understand why the signal strength bars are lower when on 3g as opposed to edge unless its wat the first Guy said. And that doesn't seem correct cause that's basically saying my cell service is worse and I would have a higher chance of getting dropped or no calls at all when I am on 3g as opposed to edge.
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A couple of notes here:
- All you're seeing here is that 3G service is weaker than 2G/EDGE service at your house. Perhaps there are more EDGE towers around you than 3G-enabled towers, or EDGE runs on a lower frequency such as 850MHz that penetrates through walls better.
- If your 3G service completely drops out, you should fall back to EDGE during the call. There shouldn't be any interruption, but there's a small chance that the call will drop when this happens.
The latter happens to me on TMO all the time if I go into weak 3G, and I've never had a dropped call or issue because of it - so really, as long as you have solid EDGE service, phone calls shouldn't be a problem for you. Note that when you fall back to EDGE, you can't use data while on the call, but if you're still on 3G, it's possible to do so. You can of course combat by this by just using wifi.
Now, on the other hand, AT&T's 3G network is overloaded in some markets, so you may have a dropped call because of that - but that's a different issue altogether.
gsvnet thanks a lot! Cleared up everything I was wondering.
i am on the stock radio 2.10 stock rom with alot of tweaks i have done my self ok the problem is it seems my tmobo conection is harribal indoors 1 or 2 bars edge and alway s changeing if i step outside the bars shoot all the way to full 3g will flashing the 2.11 radio help this at all or is this just what i have to deal with on tmobo network any tips or tweaks on geting better service indoors would help this seems to be any building or house not just one location PLEAS HELP!!!!
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i am on the stock radio 2.10 stock rom with alot of tweaks i have done my self ok the problem is it seems my tmobo conection is harribal indoors 1 or 2 bars edge and alway s changeing if i step outside the bars shoot all the way to full 3g will flashing the 2.11 radio help this at all or is this just what i have to deal with on tmobo network any tips or tweaks on geting better service indoors would help this seems to be any building or house not just one location PLEAS HELP!!!!
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A lot of us have the same issue. I think it could be that the signal strength in certain areas is not strong enough when inside buildings.
sev15 said:
i am on the stock radio 2.10 stock rom with alot of tweaks i have done my self ok the problem is it seems my tmobo conection is harribal indoors 1 or 2 bars edge and alway s changeing if i step outside the bars shoot all the way to full 3g will flashing the 2.11 radio help this at all or is this just what i have to deal with on tmobo network any tips or tweaks on geting better service indoors would help this seems to be any building or house not just one location PLEAS HELP!!!!
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T-Mobiles 1700mhz 3g band doesn't penetrate walls or objects as well as a lower mhz signal would like at&t's 850 band. It travels farther, though, so t-mobile doesn't need as many towers to cover an area, but that also means there is going to be more areas that have weak signals in a covered area. So, unless you're close to one of there towers, you won't get good 3g signals inside buildings.
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T-Mobiles 1700mhz 3g band doesn't penetrate walls or objects as well as a lower mhz signal would like at&t's 850 band. It travels farther, though, so t-mobile doesn't need as many towers to cover an area, but that also means there is going to be more areas that have weak signals in a covered area. So, unless you're close to one of there towers, you won't get good 3g signals inside buildings.
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The radio has to have something to do with it though because the 1700mhz band penetrates just fine for other HTC phones.
I have my HD2, MT3G and the G1...here at my desk at work, I can have all three side by side and the G1 has 2 bars 3G...the MT3G has 3 bars 3G...and my HD2 bounces all over the place between 3G and Edge... so you cannot tell me that they are receiving different signals.
...outside, or in 99% of other places I go I have no 3G problems with my HD2...unfortunately though, I spend a lot of time at work and would really love to have at least a steady 3G connection without having to put my SIM in a different phone.
Try changing the access point
if you go into the connections setting for the tmob data connection access point address. tmob default is epc.tmobile.com. try usin wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com
well i guess we cant look foward for better service tell more towers go up i did have a sidekick lx that was not bad indoors could this be due to the danger server if so is there anyway to use that server instead
it kinda sux when friends from work sit next to me and can use att and verizon tv and streaming and i can not with my supper phone with bad indoor connection wish i could do something about it or some of the supper guys here at xda
Radios are ****, plain and simple. I have a g1 full bars 3g always on and my hd2 1-2 bars, 3g comes in and out. I called t-mo support and they tried the singal in your area bs. I said listen I have a G1 right next to the hd2 and that old clunker has full signal so stop there. Then they said, we are aware of the problem and are working on it.
same here
i have my g1 and HD2 side by side and the g1 has 3 bars 3g and the HD2 has only 1 bar edge and won't respond!
No complaints about the HD2's reception here. Having come from a Nexus One, I had them at the same time for about 2 weeks.
The Nexus One dropped calls constantly while inside at work, forget about keeping a reliable 3G signal, in fact I was lucky to keep EDGE indoors. If you moved the wrong way (literally!) it would bounce around in signal strength and would lose data connection constantly.
Looking at the HD2, I have 3G connection pretty much constantly, jumping into H on a regular basis. No dropped calls, sound quality from the ear speaker is phenomenal , and never a lost data connection.
Outdoors is even better.
Again, no complaints here about TMoUS's signal here!
anyone know if the 2.11 will help at all
I HATE that the HD2 will sometimes show full (phone) bars, not 3g or E, but yet not let you call. I had this happen to me for 2 minutes today. I had to go into settings and turn the phone option off/on and wait a minute for it to get a signal again. I'm in NYC, there's usually full 3G bars when outside.
This phone doesn't handle weak signals or situations when you enter and leave areas with no reception.
hmmmmmmm
i just found something iv been testing it for 30 min now if i lay my hd2 down flat on table or anything flat i can keep 3 bars 3g indoors i pick it up and hold in hand and boom 1 bar edge this is wierd wonder if this means anything im going to tryit at work tomorow see if it dose the same thing tryit see if your phone dose the same guys let me know i can stream video on mobi tv as long as its laying flat 3g i pick it up and the video stops and phone goes to edge
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i just found something iv been testing it for 30 min now if i lay my hd2 down flat on table or anything flat i can keep 3 bars 3g indoors i pick it up and hold in hand and boom 1 bar edge this is wierd wonder if this means anything im going to tryit at work tomorow see if it dose the same thing tryit see if your phone dose the same guys let me know i can stream video on mobi tv as long as its laying flat 3g i pick it up and the video stops and phone goes to edge
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Yes, that's one of the crazy things with this phone. It can sit on a table all day and the 3G icon will be full bars. As soon as you touch the damn thing, you see the bars drop to 1 then it goes to Edge full bars then it drops to G...and will not go back to 3G until you put the phone down.
This needs to update fast. Thing I'm gonna go back to my TP2 until then.
I am a little confused here. some posts seem as if it might be a device issue and others seem to be leaning towards t-mobile. i had some really bad issues with my reception until i changed Radios. i am currently using 2.10.50.19._2 and my 3g signal seems to cut out less. but its is not as strong as my Tp2 which had excellent 3g signal, but i did call t-mobile and they said there have been issues reported in my area and they are working on it but if that is the case then my tp2 would also have the same issues which it does not! so i don't know what to make of it??
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I am a little confused here. some posts seem as if it might be a device issue and others seem to be leaning towards t-mobile. i had some really bad issues with my reception until i changed Radios. i am currently using 2.10.50.19._2 and my 3g signal seems to cut out less. but its is not as strong as my Tp2 which had excellent 3g signal, but i did call t-mobile and they said there have been issues reported in my area and they are working on it but if that is the case then my tp2 would also have the same issues which it does not! so i don't know what to make of it??
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I think its the phone. I've never had issues with my G1. I went to the Cliq and it had bad reception. I could set it next to my friends G1 and Mytouch and they both had 2 - 3 bas of 3G and I would be on Edge. The HD2 is a little better but not as good as the G1 and MyTouch. The N1 has the exact same issues and they are both HTC. Hopefully a radio or software update will fix the issue. Its a know issue with Tmobile so they are aware of the issue.
You can try to go to settings, personal, phone, band, and change the select yout network type option to wcdma. Leave the slect your gsm/umts band option to auto. This tells it to only connect to 3g. I had to do it with my at&t windows mobile phone when I was at my job to keep it on 3g. Also with my t-mobile hd2, in certain places i have to do it otherwise it switches between 3g and edge. Downside is, if there is no 3G signal available your phone will have no signal. It should work since the phone is detecting 3g signal.
Its great to know that I am not the only person experiencing these issues with the HD2. I lay it down on my desk and it will read 3 bars 3G. Pick it up, and it drops to Edge. Never had these problems with my Xperia X1i. Something I have noticed is the battery life on my HD2 is much better than my Xperia X1i. Although it has a larger screen and smaller battery. I think the Engineers at HTC reduced the power to the Radio to help improve battery life. Anyone have any theories on how to increase the power to the radio antenna?
Just saw this thread when I was looking for a solution to this exact problem. I just recently moved to Houston and can not seem to get a T-Mobile signal inside my house with my HD2. It got signal just fine in Alabama, but nothing here.
I have a Dash 3G right next to the HD2 with 3 bars of 3G, hd2 has nothing. I even put my sim card in an old hacked iPhone and it even gets signal inside. I can't figure this out but its making me consider having to get rid of the phone. What good is it when the phone doesn't get signal?
I also just saw the new 2.11.50.20 radio on the forums, so after I charge my hd2 i'm gonna try that out and see if it helps.
I am from Houston too. ( Pearland Actually )
Same story here, inside my house NO 3G! However if I am driving around town I usually have 3 or 4 bars 3G. Let us know if that new radio ROM helps at all.
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Just saw this thread when I was looking for a solution to this exact problem. I just recently moved to Houston and can not seem to get a T-Mobile signal inside my house with my HD2. It got signal just fine in Alabama, but nothing here.
I have a Dash 3G right next to the HD2 with 3 bars of 3G, hd2 has nothing. I even put my sim card in an old hacked iPhone and it even gets signal inside. I can't figure this out but its making me consider having to get rid of the phone. What good is it when the phone doesn't get signal?
I also just saw the new 2.11.50.20 radio on the forums, so after I charge my hd2 i'm gonna try that out and see if it helps.
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WhiteSites said:
I am from Houston too. ( Pearland Actually )
Same story here, inside my house NO 3G! However if I am driving around town I usually have 3 or 4 bars 3G. Let us know if that new radio ROM helps at all.
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No help. 2.11.50.20 isn't doing anything, still getting 0 bars inside and 2 bars of when I go onto my front porch. Down the road I get full 3G, so I don't understand whats going on at all