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How to stop screen on when new sms arrives?

Hi every one.
So i set "button lock" and also disable mainly all notifications but every time a new sms arrives,the screen goes on.I will like to keep the screen off because if you carry your magician in your pocket and after that sms arrives,you can accidentaly press any button or even touch the screen.
I been checking every thing i could check but i can´t find the answer about this problem.
Thanks in advance.

Third party software Pocket Zen Phone or phoneAlarm.

Ok i´ll check it and see what i can do.
Cheers mate.

User22 said:
I will like to keep the screen off because if you carry your magician in your pocket and after that sms arrives,you can accidentaly press any button or even touch the screen.
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There are many occasions the Magician turns on its screen. Rather than trying to find and disable all these, I copied TPDisable.exe and TPEnable.exe from the original Extended ROM into my Program Files folder, and then assigned them to a hardware key (using Hotbutton, so that I can use the same key for both).
As the name implies, TPDisable disables the touchscreen (not the display!), and TPEnable re-enables it. So, before I put my Magician into my pocket, I now disable the touchscreen (one press of a button). That still leaves the keys active, true, but I found that normally the touchscreen is much more likely to be the culprit when strange things happen on your Magician while it's in the pocket, and turned itself on.
Cheers
Daniel

@ tadzio
Well,that is a very interesting solution,but i can´t find TPDisable.exe
or TPEnable.exe inside my magician.I need a bit more info from you
Daniel.
Thanks a lot for your replies.

What happens if you hold down power button for 2 seconds to switch off backlight? Does the light still illuminate on receipt of sms?

@ cruisin-thru
I can´t see the point of your question,mainly because the thing i am looking for is to "switch off" my Qtek like a normal mobile phone,i mince buttons locks and screen off when a new sms or incoming call arrives and when you push power button for example,then screen go on and also release the lock of the buttons.
Any one can say that then i can use deltalock.I did it but the battery live is going down very quick.
Screenlock is not working properly also,i will say that Deltalock is 95% a lot better than Screenlock.
And finally,why microsoft is developing this OS without fully screen off selectable option???. Who knows!!!
Cheers

User22 said:
Well,that is a very interesting solution,but i can´t find TPDisable.exe or TPEnable.exe inside my magician.I need a bit more info from you Daniel.
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Both programs are in the Extended ROM. Most users have made this visible (though not writable) by performing a Hard Reset, and immediately after completing the initial screen adjustment and mini-tutorial and before the device starts installing programs, a Soft Reset.
If you do not want to do a Hard Reset, search this site's FTP server for Magician Extended ROM downloads. There were a few there last time I looked.
Cheers
Daniel

Well,after config hotbutton to TPDisable and TPEnable i can´t enable the screen and hardware buttons.
TPDisable is disablind the screen but also all the hardware buttons ( with and without button lock at settins),even the power button.
I use same hardware button for TPDisable and TPEnable ,is that correct or i am doing silly things?

If I arrive an sms the screen is switching on and after a few seconds switching off again if I don't press any key or tap the screen!
It's a changeable registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE / System / CurrentControlSet / Control / Power /
WakeupPowerOff =12 (the default is 180)
DisableGwesPowerOff=0 (the default is 1)
If you switch on the Jam (power button) need to press some other key too, because it switches off after 12 seconds!!!
by Avers

@avers
Well that is another solution but i insist that there should be an easiest way to keep the screen fully off when a new sms or what ever arrives,including hardware buttons off ofcourse.
Any suggestion more?, perhaps at the end and betwen all of us ,we can find the solution.
Cheers.

I think the best solution is third party software like PHONEALARM,
it's easiest way to get main tweaks of Pocket Windows.
get it there
http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.htm

Well my friends,pocketzenphone is not doing what i am looking for.
Next step is to try phonealarm,but probably will work the same way as pocketzenphone,leting the screen to go on every time a new sms arrives.
Sorry for my languaje but F... microsoft and F... devil gates.

As you can read on this post ,phonealarm IS NOT doing it.
http://www.pocketmax.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=429

phonealarm has option named "Don't activate backlight on alarm"
ALARM there means any event, that needs notification.
now i am understanding, that it is some differ that you need.
also i advice you make some registry tweaks to make a very short backlite time when sms arrives.:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\WakeupPowerOff = 10
this timeout in seconds. is used when our device self power on, when SMS arrives or we push the POWER button and do nothing anymore
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\DisableGwesPowerOff = 0
this key is enables this power control system (necessarily change it, or first key will not work)
after the editing registry you need to reboot PDA.
sorry for poor english, i translate text from russian.
if you want to use online translator i can give you original URL
_http://forum.ladoshki.com/viewtopic.php?t=16012

Thank you for your reply i will try like you and others point out and also will keep looking for that utopic soft.

deltaLock locks the screen and buttons even if you get sms or calls. I use it on my JAM and it works so far.

bnycastro said:
deltaLock locks the screen and buttons even if you get sms or calls. I use it on my JAM and it works so far.
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If you read one of my post ,you will see that i allready said that Deltalock is working but it is KILLING the battery live very fast and when i say VERY FAST it mince that you will get almost 6hours against the normal live (more than 15hours).
Cheers mate.

I think if you keep your ppc on all the time you will get this battery life. Anyway I think deltaLock is for keeping your PPC on and having screen and button lock, not having it in suspend mode and not allowing the screen to power up. Sorry about that, seem to have misunderstood your post.

Don´t worry mate, at the end we are all together trying to find a solution to this microsoft silly programing, any comment and any new idea is wellcome.
Cheers.

Speed Dial... no shortcut

I've found that theres no speed dial shortcut.
On the Touch you simply press the Green Call key, press button down on the thumb pad and all the speed dials are there.. this isn't so on the dual.
has anyone found a easy wasy to find them with less than 5 clicks?
If not, does anyone know what .exe runs the speed dial, so I can create a shortcut on the Start menu.
Tnx
Steve

gumballsteve said:
I've found that theres no speed dial shortcut.
On the Touch you simply press the Green Call key, press button down on the thumb pad and all the speed dials are there.. this isn't so on the dual.
has anyone found a easy wasy to find them with less than 5 clicks?
If not, does anyone know what .exe runs the speed dial, so I can create a shortcut on the Start menu.
Tnx
Steve
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I personally find smart dialing to be a breeze... Just start keying in the first couple of letters and you'll get the matches... I have over 400 contacts and I find it a very efficient way to dial

Aaaaaaww what a great tip! Have had my Touch Dual for a week and had not discovered this gem. Thanks

pobrien said:
Aaaaaaww what a great tip! Have had my Touch Dual for a week and had not discovered this gem. Thanks
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What about assigning the contact tiles in the Touch Flo as you speed dials? Then you can have pictures of your contacts too?

my "workaround" for your reference:
1. add a shortcut to HTCActionScreen.exe (i.e. the action screen we get when sliding down the keypad) to Windows\Start Menu\Program Files\
2. now should be able to add HTCActionScreen.exe to the HTC Home Launcher tab
usage:
(click 1) launcher tab -> (click 2) launch action screen -> key in whatever you like with the hardware keypad to enjoy the quickdial feature
just for exp sharing.

But why do you need a shortcut for that?
I you anyway use the hardware keyboard to use quickdial,
why not simply start actionscreen by sliding out the keyboard?

Thyraz said:
But why do you need a shortcut for that?
I you anyway use the hardware keyboard to use quickdial,
why not simply start actionscreen by sliding out the keyboard?
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1. when i'm so stupid that i can't press the first key before the action screen timeout and disappear. in this case, i don't want to slide the keypad back and out again.
2. when i want to use the other shortcuts on the action screen.

Hehe, ok
But one hint: u don't need to close and reopen the slider.
The sensor is on the last 5mm.
Just pull it a little bit back and release.

Thyraz said:
Hehe, ok
But one hint: u don't need to close and reopen the slider.
The sensor is on the last 5mm.
Just pull it a little bit back and release.
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Tricking the keypad sensor! Nice "Touch" hahahahahaha

Thyraz said:
Hehe, ok
But one hint: u don't need to close and reopen the slider.
The sensor is on the last 5mm.
Just pull it a little bit back and release.
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hehe... i really did this previously.
the shortcut was added later when i found that sometimes (though not frequent at all) i may want to access the shortcuts on the action screen without opening the keypad.

How to disable "footprint" on right hardware-button?

Hi,
I would like to disable the footprint-application from the right hardware-button, but it dosn't work. In registry under HKLM/Software/Microsoft/shell/keys I've made two new entries (40C1 and 40C2), so I can choose now the two hardware-buttons in preferences. But when I lay another program to the right hardware-button, this programm starts together with footprint...
The left hardware-button is no problem, it works fine with every programm I want
Thanks
oese
(sorry for my bad english, I hope you can understand my problem...)

Looks like it is somehow hardcoded into the TouchFLO interface. I managed to "unmap" the left key (simply by uninstalling TomTom), but I had no success with the Footprints key so far.

I think that some program or registry setting is responsible for these keys mapping.
I've managed with ae button plus to assing a different application to these keys, but the default apps run again with the new apps. And I think that because you uninstalled tomtom, just they didn't find the app and for this is not running with the new assinged app.
I don't think that is touchflo related.

dancer_69 said:
I think that some program or registry setting is responsible for these keys mapping.
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I am not sure mate, tried to look almost everywhere in the registry with no success. But I'll keep trying, the Navi and Footprints buttons sux. I'd rather have Diamond's/HD's Back and Home keys, if nothing better.
dancer_69 said:
I've managed with ae button plus to assing a different application to these keys, but the default apps run again with the new apps.
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Got the same result too, when tried to map another app with AEBP.
dancer_69 said:
And I think that because you uninstalled tomtom, just they didn't find the app and for this is not running with the new assinged app. I don't think that is touchflo related.
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Sure, I know it just doesn't find the app, but at least it got me rid of TomTom (I am an iGO 8 user). I admit it's quite lousy workaround.

I think I found something.
Seems that the function of these buttons loading as a service.
I've managed to unbind the left button by stop the NaviService(NPS0 and I think that
the service App Service(APP1 is responsible for the right button, but I cannot stop this service.Needed further research though.
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I've managed to disable it from registry(HKLM\Services\App). I changed Context and Index values to 0 and seems that the button is unbind now!
Needed to set these services to not automatic start also. This can be done with FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1

Ok, after some time playing around with my registry, I found a workaround how you can start a different program with the footprint button:
(BTW I have a German version so I'm not sure how the features are called in English, so if anyone can describe what I write next clearer, please feel free. Thx)
First you have to go to system preferences. In the system tab you'll find an option where you can make some adjustments about A-GPS and Place Settings. In the left tab you can activate and deactive A-GPS and tell your device which provider to use to access it. In the right tab you can tell the device not to notify you if some HTC software wants to start this feature which monitors the place where you are. Check this box.
This will keep the Google notifier to pop up every time you press the footprint button.
The go to the registry:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\FootCam
and simply change the path in there to any program you want to use with the button. e.g. \Program Files\ThumApps\ThumbCal\Thumbcal.exe

Well, works well, but do you have any idea if disabling these services does not cause any other issues?

After a hard reset I did the following
- installed the 40C1 and 40C2 reg key
- set the the NaviService(NPS0) to manual
Both buttons can now be used by Windows without any issue so far. No more changes were needed for me. Hope that helps. (I have a HTC Guide, that is the O2 branded version)
Sebastian

I mentioned that few posts above.
The problem is that when the NaviService doesn't run, NaviPanel doesn't start automatic when in carkit mode, even if this option is checked in carkit settings screen.

kuerbis said:
- set the the NaviService(NPS0) to manual
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Hi,
where I can find this setting?
oese

dancer_69 said:
I think I found something.
Seems that the function of these buttons loading as a service.
I've managed to unbind the left button by stop the NaviService(NPS0 and I think that
the service App Service(APP1 is responsible for the right button, but I cannot stop this service.Needed further research though.
EDIT:
I've managed to disable it from registry(HKLM\Services\App). I changed Context and Index values to 0 and seems that the button is unbind now!
Needed to set these services to not automatic start also. This can be done with FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1
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sorry for my stupid question

it works for my iolite...
THANKSALOT

Left Key
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\NaviService
Turn «Flags» from 0 to 1
For me it works

U can read this (its in german), include a reg-file to dissolve this and a navipanel.lnk for start menu
Greetings Mirko

angeja said:
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\NaviService
Turn «Flags» from 0 to 1
For me it works
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that thing disable my both buttons for some reason. and copilot and footprnts!! well it looks that it works for me atm.

You can use AE Button Plus, you can assign 4 different actions to each button.

Dontatos said:
that thing disable my both buttons for some reason. and copilot and footprnts!! well it looks that it works for me atm.
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Before read THIS
Then use "Start" - "Settings" - "Hardware-Buttons" to change assignment.
Greetings Mirko

Yes It Works,
Followed the steps and it works. I assigned foot prints to put phone in standby ( screen off / on ) The Off works quick, the On has a delay but I will get used to it.
Set the NAVI to Manual Start is the trick

Turn off light with another button?

Does anybody know if it's possible to turn off the phonelight with the button to the right?
You usually use the on-button on the top of the phone but I think it would've been easier to use the button you hang up a conversation with. (just as you are with HTC HD2).
Hoping on a .cab or a positive answer

VistaX said:
Does anybody know if it's possible to turn off the phonelight with the button to the right?
You usually use the on-button on the top of the phone but I think it would've been easier to use the button you hang up a conversation with. (just as you are with HTC HD2).
Hoping on a .cab or a positive answer
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You can use TD2 Tools that has program called boot manager and assign to a key with Keyboard controller.

Bruce Inman said:
You can use TD2 Tools that has program called boot manager and assign to a key with Keyboard controller.
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Thanks for a quick answer, Bruce Inman Do you know where to find a description on how to do it?
Is this what you meant; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536410 ?

VistaX said:
Thanks for a quick answer, Bruce Inman Do you know where to find a description on how to do it?
Is this what you meant; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536410 ?
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Yes, that is the TD2 Tool to install.
Then install the enclosed Kbd controll program. Its pretty intuitive, just keep short press as default and set your long or double press to Boot manager.
or..... you can use SSMaHo to map a shortcut from manila home screen.
As far as instructions, you'll have to read as it is too hard to explain in brief.
One thing you will find is that the left soft key is locked for editing in most ROMs.
You can also set it to a softkey in the registry in HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila;
LSK, RSK (left and right soft key path and text)

[Q] Program buttons?!?

Hey guys..does anyone know what the program buttons do ?i tried to map some programs to it and nothing...

I'm sorry I don't understand your question, which program buttons do you mean? The ones on the home screen or otherwise?

Probably the personalised buttons. Which is not available in HD mini.

yeah i thought so too,reminded that this was working on my old p3600 and i could asign actions for those buttons,btw does the endkey replacement working for u?

The end key long press that brings up the quick list works fine.

not the original one..i mean the endkey replacement v 4.5,or if u can tell me pls if u know a way to replace the long press endkey with a programs tab.

Keyboard sound
Hello there,
Do you have any idea how can we turn off the keyboard sound when dialing without turning off also the incoming message alert ?
Thanks

Settings-More-Phone
There is an option for keyboard.

fighter7139 said:
Settings-More-Phone
There is an option for keyboard.
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Thanks but on my phone supplementary from settings I have all settings and there is no phone tab or icon. Where should it be ?

I don't have english menu.
Tell what do you see, when you select "all settings"?

fighter7139 said:
Settings-More-Phone
There is an option for keyboard.
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Thanks I found it !: settings-all settings-personal-phone-keypad must be set to off.
tnx Fighter7139

Sorry, for some devices, "Phone" is inside Personal, for some others is outside.

Thanks fighter7139