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wm6.1 crashing apps

I think I tried posting this in one of dcd's rom threads but it got lost in the thousands of posts so I figured I would pull it out into a main thread...
What is up with WM closing out (crashing) background apps once you launch new ones? it's supposed to keep this stuff opened until you close it! Even if I have only 1 app opened, say Resco Pocket Radio.. and I try to go into a text message.. it will crash Resco... or if I have a PIE window open and I switch to a file browser it will crash PIE...
Is this a wm thing... wm6.1 thing or... dcd thing... or what?
I would really think this has been addressed before but I can't seem to find anything through search...
thanks

Are you using HTC X-Button or QuickMenu that may be closing your apps? Jus a thought

no htc x-button but I am using quickmenu... but that is only supposed to close the apps when u click the X in the corner... apps are closing by just launching from a notification... hard button.. or other launch method

Havn't seen that before... the only thing i can think of is double check quickmenu settings or try a hard reset, or maybe even cook a new rom. One time with a particular custom rom my text messages never made a sound -- but every other sound worked. I cook a new rom and it fixed it

i guess if no one else sees this problem it has to be something I have loaded on my device... im going to start removing things to see if i can determine the culprit... im starting with quickmenu

wow i dont think I've ever used regular start menu before but isn't it supposed to show apps that are currently loaded in memory? mine seems to be showing a list of last used apps... has like 10 things in there then program/settings...
not to be mistaken with frequenters (set in settings->menu), I have that list empty... strange!

Zenoran said:
i guess if no one else sees this problem it has to be something I have loaded on my device... im going to start removing things to see if i can determine the culprit... im starting with quickmenu
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I'm having a problem with PIE. I'll open my text messages, then go back to PIE only to have it re-open back on the homepage. It is very annoying when I'm in the middle of something and just wanna respond to a text message.

I noticed it has to do with apps that are active on the broadband network, which leads me to believe it was radio-related...
I went back to 1.4 & 1.7.0 and no crashes or anything... starting to think this combo is more stable anyways. new radios just don't seem to work all that well on verizon, at least in my experience

How to stop programmes closing themselves down?

Hi all, hope someone can help me.
I want Windows Live Messenger and Facebook IM to run continuously on my phone and be online permanently to receive messages.
But if i leave them running and go back to my phone later they appear to have closed down and i have to open them back up and sign in again, and more importantly may have missed an important message as i have been offline!
I have the 'X Closes The Application' option off so i can minimise them easy, and i know they do get minimised because i see them in the Task Manager, but almost everytime i go to look at my phone again they have closed themselves, and only very few times are they still running.
I am running 'udK Syrius Topaz R2' ROM
Anyone know why this is happening?

You have some memory hungry app which take their memory away.
And WinMo shuts them down when there is not enough memory left for them.
I heard that it should be possible to start them as a service but i dont know how that works. If you find the answer pls share it in this thread.

Thank you for your reply, i had a feeling this might be a reason.
I now wonder what programme it may be thats steeling all my memory away!
I will hunt around and see if i can find out how to run programmes as services, if i find out i will post the answer here.
In the mean time if anyone else knows how to do this please tell us?!

please check the following:
Open Advanced Config
go to HTC Task Manager
Set Auto Kill to Disabled if its not there already

Giannis86 said:
please check the following:
Open Advanced Config
go to HTC Task Manager
Set Auto Kill to Disabled if its not there already
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Thanks for the tip. I have a problem with FingerKeyboard and ChangeScreen, they stop working after +24 hrs w/o soft reset... I'll try this and see if it helps.

Giannis86 said:
please check the following:
Open Advanced Config
go to HTC Task Manager
Set Auto Kill to Disabled if its not there already
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yes thank you for this tip, i will see if the programmes close at all in the next few days and see if this solves the problem!

Giannis86 said:
please check the following:
Open Advanced Config
go to HTC Task Manager
Set Auto Kill to Disabled if its not there already
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Thank you! This did it! No more problems! =)

Palringo; battery drain; lock ups

Palringo is a pretty cool IM'ing app. The first time I installed it I found that my battery was getting chewed up even when the program was not running. I had some other problems with lock up. I uninstalled and after a couple of months I thought I would try it again.
Seems to be the same issues. Battery drain and some general lock up problems.
Wondering whether others have had similar problems.

never locked, using the current version (no beta). battery drain... I don't know really, I open it only when I need to chat, otherwise it stays shut so nobody bothers me
maybe you want to try beta version? it's been updated every 48 hours these weeks

cyberpunk627 said:
never locked, using the current version (no beta). battery drain... I don't know really, I open it only when I need to chat, otherwise it stays shut so nobody bothers me
maybe you want to try beta version? it's been updated every 48 hours these weeks
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Curious, if I close Palringo using the Task Mgr. I seemingly still show available to my contacts because they can IM me and I get a little envelope on my taskbar. If I touch that I get an option to open Palringo and then I can reply. So it seems that even when it is closed it is functiong somehow.

DLTempler said:
Curious, if I close Palringo using the Task Mgr. I seemingly still show available to my contacts because they can IM me and I get a little envelope on my taskbar. If I touch that I get an option to open Palringo and then I can reply. So it seems that even when it is closed it is functiong somehow.
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I think there is an option somewhere to define wether you want it to run in the background or not...
Great programme, i don't use it though anymore since i somehow messed the contact list and now it shows only few of them. The same with the PC client

I updgraded to the latest beta, no lockups at all, about battery I can't tell, I just chatted and messed around a few minutes. Be sure to disable the location service!!

I absolutely LOVE Palringo.
I do not go mobile w/o using this app I don't know if it uses a lot of battery, but I can say that this IM app is much better than a lot of others.
I even went PREMIUM, but sadly it doesn't work with the new MANILA/SENSE screens . They said soon it'll work and just imagine how nicely it will be implemented into 6.5.3 or 6.5.5

DLTempler said:
Curious, if I close Palringo using the Task Mgr. I seemingly still show available to my contacts because they can IM me and I get a little envelope on my taskbar. If I touch that I get an option to open Palringo and then I can reply. So it seems that even when it is closed it is functiong somehow.
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well have you checked task manager, cause when you click the "X" to close the program it only minimises it and doesnt close it. thats why your probably still receiving messages.
btw this is one of the best IM apps, although i wish they had implemented MySpace as well :/

Same problem here, battery drainage after I opened Palringo.
I've got this problem since I updated Palringo to version 2.5.6 r39750
If I close Palringo before going to bed I can be pretty sure to not be woken by my phone in the morning... Although sleeping long is pretty sweet, I don't like this behaviour too much.
Closing through the taskmanager (which tells me Palringo doesnt respond) leaves an icon on the taskbar. When I click that icon I get to choose between opening Palringo and closing the program. After closing (or trying to open) the icon vanishes and Palringo isn't listed in the taskmanager anymore. So far so good, but if I don't restart my phone, it will suck down the juice like me at an open bar ...
I didn't find any solution to this. Tracking is turned of.
I'm now trying to:
Close Palringo via the close-button of Palringo.
Set my status to offline before closing.

If you try to kill Palringo using the "x" button or a task manager it doesn't close itself, although it doesn't appear on the list anymore. Check running processes using a specialized process viewer, for example SKTools.
Quickfix: Use the exit menu in Palringo to quit the application.

Jackos said:
If you try to kill Palringo using the "x" button or a task manager it doesn't close itself, although it doesn't appear on the list anymore. Check running processes using a specialized process viewer, for example SKTools.
Quickfix: Use the exit menu in Palringo to quit the application.
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Yes, this worked quite well for me. No more problems at all

Help. ADW launcher

hello friends. ive been using adw launcher fr a while... didnt had any issues b4 bt now... whenever i press the home button, adw launcher restarts and all the widgets hav to b loaded again. its ok if it happens like once in 2 days but it happens like almost everytime i press it... nd im really irritated with it.
jus in case u wana knw, im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.

did you set ADW to replace default one?

my problem is when i hold the home key (to switch between recent apps) i have to set adw as default again ... and i experience a lot of crashes - mostly when i go back from an app to my home screen .... for me the new version is unusable now

Yes yes. I have.
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go to market and download home swicher this is an application to chosse the action for home button and u can change this action as u want

momerbk said:
im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
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Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.

XperiaX10iUser said:
Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use? which one gives me the max ram and cpu pfftt i mean which one is the best with which my x10i will run smoothly
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.

Zenghelis said:
None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager

momerbk said:
okay.. bt then which task manager should i use?
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I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.

momerbk said:
but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.

Zenghelis said:
Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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XperiaX10iUser said:
I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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ohk. ill try to do both things... thanks a lot for the help! =)

I don't feel like writing out the full reason for why not to use a task killer.
Luckily for me, this link explains it nicely.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Once you give it a read, you can google around and you will find other sources which give you the same info in a bit more detail.
As for the widget problem? I have yet to experience it unless I am changing a setting on ADW (pretty much any changed setting under ADW settings will result in my widgets reloading). However, I never experience it other than that. I imagine the task killer is your problem.
Good luck!

Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].

Terul said:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do."
So why then does it leave tasks running when you close them, for example, if I use Meridian then close it, the app will still show in the ATK list, and remains there until I shut it down. When you boot the phone, it loads a few apps, that would remain there unless I use ATK. The first reply to the article sums up the experience of a lot of users.

visitador02 said:
Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
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Mine has never re-started itself without task killer.

I use Advanced Task Manager since I started using X10 with ADW Launcher. It was all fine at the begining. Then I reinstalled software and restored aplications (without settings) and started experience the same problem as OP. So I have changed some settings in ADW, especially paying attention to System Preferences and UI settings. I don't know excatly what I have changed but I do NOT experience any problems with ADW "restarting" after that. So in my opinion this problem is down to setting ADW properly, only.

My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.

ATK and similar apps are a personal choice, I used ATK until late June but since uninstalled the phone had run smoother. But then, it's rooted and overclocked...
ADW is probably the best home, openhome and panda have issues and xxx too crashes too often
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Reeonimus said:
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
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thx to the new version you cant use persistent mode with orientation in landscape(or sensor mode) - i dont get why ...

[Q] Contacts app running in background

Contact app is always in the background after use, even though you close your app. Does anyone have a solution for this?
Could close only with task manager. Have other use same problem with contact app. Already installed different ROM's but always same.
Thanks a lot in advance

And whats the problem? Android supports multi-tasking and when it needs more memory, it makes it itself. Or if it matters you can close it with task manager included in FroYo

That's just an annoying thing for me.

sakirayt said:
That's just an annoying thing for me.
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Ok, so you can use froyo task manager. In my view, its the only task manager good for android system(others are ruining the running of the system)

Or try Go Launcher it has a really good task manager included

same problem for me also.....any solutions ????? i have tried various stock and custom ROMS...but nothing happened....