Is there a way to completely disable the onscreen keyboard that seems to pop up at the most innoportune time when editing text data? Whenever I'm using my exec in 'mini laptop' mode, i have access to a full keyboard, and having the on screen keyboard pop up, using 3/4 of the screen height, rendering whatever I was working on unusable, well, that's... frustrating.
Is there a way to disable that keyboard? Registry tweak maybe? TIA!
Try a null keyboard app. PHM has one. There are others too, a big review of them on Brighthand.
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Thanks! Sounds like it'll do the trick.
Also, you can simply start typing using your hardware keyboard instead of removing the soft keyboard by clicking on the icon. It will disapear, and will not reopen for this app.
If you click on the keyboard icon to remove it from the screen, it will come back next time.
Here try this NullKeyboard. It works fine on my Exec: http://personales.ya.com/beemer/prod03.htm
this program don't work for me. everytime i select it, my soft keyboard comes back.
Just a silly annoyance - maybe you have a way out of it. I have checked the reg and my TyTN does have the HasKeyboard set to 1........but anytime I do anything that requires input the on-screen comes up......but I have the great TyTN keyboard and don't need it! plus it messes up all the input windows for new mail etc to half height!
how can I make that thing stay away until I want it?
Just start typing with the hardware keyboard and the popup keyboard should go away. If you just keep using the real keyboard, the software one shouldn't popup after a while.
Has anyone noticed the onscreen keypad responds slower than wm2003 for instance? even in my old xda2i, when it frooze for a few seconds, you could keep typing and it would catch up letter for letter. HD seems to miss letterseven normally. This issue is further highlighted whe i connected a bluetooth keyboard to it. response time is awful, you can''t trpe properly on it atall. any ways to speed the input responce up?
which keypad are you using, and in which orientation?
I type reasonably quickly, and it keeps up most of the time.
I do get an occasional pause when typing longer emails, and it does then miss out some letters - but not often enough for it to be a pain, just a minor irritation.
I'm still on bog standard keyboard, using gyrator2.
I do seem to get different keyboards depending on what app I'm in though (I think!).
Im using the basic keyboard. (can't use the qwerty one at all!!) and I'm running gyrator in the background also. (though not typing in landscape or anything)
Bluetooth keyboard wise it's the think outside bluetooth keyboard, which worked fine on my last ppc. The drivers I have crash all the time, but it still works.... just the input takes too long to update to make a full size keyboard usable in normal typing speed.
This is a FRUSTRATION!
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Im using the basic keyboard. (can't use the qwerty one at all!!) and I'm running gyrator in the background also. (though not typing in landscape or anything)
Bluetooth keyboard wise it's the think outside bluetooth keyboard, which worked fine on my last ppc. The drivers I have crash all the time, but it still works.... just the input takes too long to update to make a full size keyboard usable in normal typing speed.
This is a FRUSTRATION!
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I use the default keyboards but mainly I use TouchPal and I can type as fast as anything on that.
I have the problem of slight freezes, but not that the keyboard lags...
Don't get me wrong, i love my phone and i think that it is a seriously cool piece of technology, but we are just not getting along at the moment when it comes to texting.
I've come from a n95, where i could quite happily bash out text messages all day with very few errors, however, on my HD i can hardly type a word correctly either using the full qwerty or phone keypad. I've tried to persevere with both, but things seem to be getting worse rather than better. I'm fine when using the stylus, but when using fingers I am all over the place.
The thing that annoys me most is when i press a key and the key increases in size (as it should) but then nothing appears in the message. The space bar is the worst culprit for this, i'll be typing away and the space bar will acknowledge the press, but when i check the message something like teoitoerteritktret will be there as the space bar presses haven't been put between the words.
So please help me and my HD to remain friends and if you can suggest alternative keyboards that can be downloaded or any tips that you have I'd be more than grateful to hear about them
Spud
For myself, texting has been great on the HD and I have pretty big fingers (i'm 6"4'...and sorry for the 'standard' units). What might help is using the keyboard in landscape if you're not already doing that, that way the keys are alot bigger, especialy in qwerty mode. Also, T9 might be helpful since it corrects mistakes (like hitting the wrong key for one of the letters). As for hitting the key but not having it input it into the text, that occurs when you touch the screen where the key is (good) but before picking up the finger moving it of that key (bad). This tends to occur when you 'roll' your finger onto/off a key. Another thing which might help is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479464&highlight=finger+keyboard (there might be a v2 out already...or still in testing not sure) which is suppose to be a more finger friendly keyboard. A last option which I can give you from the top of my head is Dutty's v1.8 ROM which i believe uses a different keyboard which looks a bit more finger friendly as well.
Hope atleast some of this helps and good luck
I had a bit of difficulty typing at the beginning with the HD, I tried all the keyboards. Even in landscape (full QWERTY) although better than portrayed I found the Compact Keyboard to be the most effective way of typing. I was going to choose the default phone keypad where you have 3 letters but with compact QWERTY you have 2 keys on each key which is even better/faster/accurate (T9-wise). I typed for 2 weeks and now rarely make mistakes, sometimes I even type taking my eyes of the screen because I have memorised the distance between the keys.
I hated the keyboards and nearly wanted to throw the HD in the bin.
This is what I recommend for fast accurate texting.
Use PHONEPAD keyboard. Large keys so you can't accidentally hit the wrong key.
Turn on T9 input (not ABC)
In T9 settings, from Settings, Input, Options menu, uncheck Auto-Substitution and Word Completion in ABC mode. The other two leave checked.
In Word Completion tab, uncheck Suggest words when entering text and check box for Enable auto correct.
I found my frustration came from the words i was typing were automatically changed and substitued when i didn't want them to.
good luck!
Do you know if Cootek TouchPal works on HTC Touch HD ?
I use it on both my HTC Prophet and Diamond and I really like it.
IMHO, it's much better than the provided full and compact qwerty keyboards.
The only drawback is that it's not free software.
Just my two cents.
Cheers.
David
Thanks for the input guys, i've gone for the finger keyboard option to start with and intial impressions are that it is much better, not perfect though, but certainly better
Try getting a smaller keyboard and you will have a great time typing with the stylus.
i can type pretty fast on the phone pad method on my touch HD with t9 activated. the interface is good, much better than the one they included on the universal.
i cant type as fast as i did on my touch dual, but almost as fast now since i've had practise.
i never got the point of full qwerty onscreen, i cant stand them lol, i always use phonepad method. plus with this you can text using one hand
movig from a physical keyboard to a touchscreen is indeed a big change of habits. rather than suggesting a input method I would suggest you some behaviors that helped me a lot in the beginning:
-do not try to type when walking as it makes aiming the keys more difficult
-try to look at the actual keys not at the word written, look at the word every now and then to check for errors
-take your time, it needs concentration on the beginning a.k.a do not try to type too fast just to realize you can do it, speed comes with practice
-try all the input methods with all possible combinations to see what fits you most
-not really the thread to discuss about this, but there are some tweaks and programs available to your device that help a lot, mainly like:
touchresponse by snailslug which provides a small vibration every time you hit the screen, this helps on understanding whether you actually pressed the key
hd tweak and advanced configuration tools can increase the sensitivity of your touchscreen so that less pressure is needed to interact with it
these small tips and a lot of patience helped me a lot in the beginning, now (just after a couple months) I happily type with full qwerty on portrait only both with 2 and 1 hand (and i'm 1m90 tall so don't have exactly small fingers ... and I feel there is a lot more room for improvement
I have just upgraded to the Touch HD. My previous two phones were the TyTn and the TyTn 2 with hardware keyboards, and as you can imagine how well I'd get on with the touch screen for typing was my biggest concern.
I've played around a bit and found the transition much easier than expected, I find that using the QWERTY keyboard with the T9 dictionary turned on works best for me.
As someone else has mentioned, don't try and touch type, that will only lead to mistakes, look at the buttons as you press them and then check your text every so often to make sure it's how you think it should be.
Try Cootek's Touchpal keyboard, best I've tried so far for HD.
There are some others that you may get on with, like Resco and CM.
try fingerkeyboard, it works better for me than the stock HTC keyboard
I've always used FSK (FULL SIZE KEYBOARD) by Spb. I've used it back when I was using an Eten and 5 HTC products later, I've got it on my HD.
Because the screen is larger, it has the tiniest amount of distortion on HD but nothing that makes a big difference.
Like someone mentioned, I've gotten use to using a stylus so many times it's just as fast for me to use the little keyboard.
But then again, I've never been one of those 500 texts a minute person anyway.
HTH's,
Mark
jst first day of my HD usage...i used to have a nokia E61i (still got it) and coupled with nimbuzz i was easily using my mobile to chat to friends and family for abt 3 hours non stop easily like np... but...jst 15 mins of typing on HD and like omg i could only see one line of the conversation box ( landscape mode) and den the keyboard was lil small on te potrait mode. btw...used finger keyboard ver 2 to type...n in jst some minutes my wrist was hurting from keeping the mobile up ( e61i waws heavy as well but was no problemo to me :|) so u people got any sugessions i could try ? Else i'll have to switch to Xperia X1 cuz i would have had no choice left ....help me out plz guys...
I was using my nephew's iPod Touch the other day and the keyboard had a feature I quite liked. When you pressed a key it popped up, but above your finger, so you could actually see what key had been pressed. Are there any apps that copy this?
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I was using my nephew's iPod Touch the other day and the keyboard had a feature I quite liked. When you pressed a key it popped up, but above your finger, so you could actually see what key had been pressed. Are there any apps that copy this?
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the new HTC keyboard from the new manilla has this that feature now. I think you can get the new keyboard from the app section or the development part.
I was very used to physical keypad on Nokia phone. When I switched over to D810/Trinity, I was using Phonepad, then when TouchPal was launched, I started using it. Since then, TouchPal has been my keyboard. I am using the compact qwerty instead of Phonepad layout. TouchPal has pretty good predictive engine. If you type mostly English or those language supported by TouchPal, then it will be great. Else predictive engine may not be that helpful.
Anyway, what's helpful about TouchPal is also the swipe feature. e.g. swiping the word backward give you the past tense, upward gives you the plural, forward gives you the continuous tense, downward give you the other choices related to the word.
On the key it self, swiping left or right allow you to select the specific letter in the key : 2 letters per key, plus a number (bottom) and a symbol (top). Swiping upward gives you the capital letter, downward gives you the symbol and up and then downward give you the number. Cool, right?!
It comes with copy and paste as well as other useful symbol, preset words features.
For those who really really hate typing, check out ShapeWriter. You 'glide' from one key to another without lifting your finger. Just that the keyboard layout is not too big. The key is pretty small. I'm waiting for 'Swype' which has the same technology, but with bigger key. Sadly, it's not out yet.
Hello,
I currently use the phone keypad to type my messages, and sometimes after some words, when I press space it doesnt actually do a space. any ideas on what this could be, its really annoying when I look back and theres loads of words that are stuck together!
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I have a same problem, is there any solution for this?
Anybody help? Its really annoying
glad its not just me, i tryed turning off T9 etc.. but still does it
Yeah here also with a NLD rom. I need to push the spacebar somethings 2 times if I want a space in my text message.
I hope htc will fix it
Same problem here, I thought it was me not pushing it right
did you calibrate your screen?
before I calibrated my screen, I felt I have to skew my taps a bit (maybe its also an illusion with the glass touch screen's thickness when the actual image is behind 1-2 mm of glass) to touch the right keys. after calibration it seems better.
I find what is problem. When a tiny line is under letters, when i push space and then another letter, cursor go back. I don't know how to turn off this option and what is it for. Does anyone have solution? t9 is off in mu case and i use phone keypad.
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I find what is problem. When a tiny line is under letters, when i push space and then another letter, cursor go back. I don't know how to turn off this option and what is it for. Does anyone have solution? t9 is off in mu case and i use phone keypad.
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you are right, the cursor does go back but im not sure how to stop it.
It is driving me insane because it takes me a long time to type a message now
its unusual that more people are not reporting this issue, is it a problem just with our devices, or maybe others are not concerned by this or unaware
Im having the same problem. When I had another ROM installed the keyboard had a bigger spacebar, but I went back to manila 2.1 and now it has the smaller one again...
Isnt there a way to alter the size of the spacebar in manila 2.1?
This is a common issue with XT9.
I suggest trying a different SIP and disabling all other settings other than ABC mode.