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SMS Delivery Notification

Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
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What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now

I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man

i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p

odobo said:
I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man
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I think your talking about the Sent Notification, and I despise it ... disabled this too ... but the Delivery Notification I really like, so I can verify that my SMS reach its destination.

billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I have looked at this prog too, not used it thou ... It might be a good idea, but still dont understand why they didnt just flag you excisting SMS instead of creating a separate "reporting SMS", especially useless when it dont match the number with you addressbook, or it just me that have stopped memorize ppl:s numbers?

billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I use it and recommend it...

Wrekk said:
Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
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Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.

daweeb said:
Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.
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Thanx mate, but I think you misunderstand me, or I dont explain myself well enough
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now

What network are you on? I know some carriers don't support the delivery notification feature, but on O2 in the UK if you add *0# to the beginning of your message it will send you an SMS back when it's been delivered.. works for me (and *0# are all conveniently placed next to each other on the X1 keyboard, how nice!)

Hehe... I use TELE2 ... and I DO get a Delivery notification /report.
I just dont want it as a separate SMS! or as it say a msg from "System Administator" telling me my SMS has been delivered.
if you read the post I have posted above, I try to explain this a few times.
I do appreciate all you guys trying to help thou!
Cheers!

Same here - Again, the problem is NOT that the delivery notification itself annoys us, we know how to turn it off or on. The annoying part is just the way of presenting the notification. All other phones I had so far (as a matter of fact only Nokias) had a special way of treating the incoming delivery notification, they did not display the notification like a normal text message, but rather marked the corresponding sent text message as "delivered". If I turn on the delivery reports on the X1, I get a new text message for every one I sent. That is stupid
What we are looking for is a way of making Windows Mobile 6.1 read the incoming delivery reports and mark the corresponding sent text messages. Or at least they should not cause the X1 to notify us as the same way a normal text message does (i.e. same sound, same message dialog, etc...). I want to know that a message has been delivered without first having to believe "I got a text message" and then seeing that it's only a delivery report...

Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.

So what you're trying to say is:
Now: - You get a seperate sms saying the message has been delivered.
What you want: - The message in the "sent" folder changes icon when delivered.
Is there a solution for this that anyone knows of?
Thanks,

DankertV said:
Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.
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Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
I'm just a low-life-sql-dba-bad-ass
so I cant do **** about this... well except google

Another thing with the delivery report. I once got one when my ringtones were turned off, but the sound came anyway. So my theory is that its recognized as a system message, not a SMS. System voulme was still activated. Anyone noticed that too?

Wrekk said:
Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
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Nope, sorry, I'm not much of a win-mobile-developer... However, I did find a small app that actually fulfills my wishes somewhat. It's not perfect, but it's better than the default delivery reports...
Have a look at this site and have a go at SMS Delivery Recipt Fix. The author is active here on the forum, so you can find lots of info on this app in several threads (after all, that's how I found it). I just tried it on my phone (HTC Touch HD running Win Mobile 6.1) and it works brilliantly. The status message is still delivered as a separate sms, but now it pops up in a bubble, and the option to delete it is right there with it. In my opinion, that's a lot better than having to go into the inbox, find the report, and delete it from there. I think I'll stick with this solution.

That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.

nurps said:
That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.
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Yes, I do feel a bit stupid here, but I realised later that the bubble popup notification is a built-in function of WinMo 6.1... I just hadn't properly understood how to enable it, that only became clear to me once I had installed the sms fix. But, the fix still does a nice thing, i.e. link the displayed number to a name, which looks a lot better.

Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?

nurps said:
Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?
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Not at all. Look at the screenshots again. The one with a menu is the "new message" notification... There you have more options like "call sender", "delete message", and so on. The first screenshot shows how the delivery report is displayed, and this comes with two on-screen options: dismiss and delete. No menus to navigate here.

Touch HD SMS Threading Limit?

There's one friend who I text regularly, and I'm not sure how many messages I have from her, but today something strange happened.
I received a message from her and it looked like it came from a different number because it started a new thread. Then I realised there wasn't another thread, and for a moment I thought I'd lost all the messages. But then I noticed they still appear on the TouchFlo.
When I tap any message from her before the first message of the new thread, it opens the message in the old style (i.e. as if threading is switched off).
I thought maybe I'd accidentally moved all the messages. But they don't appear in any other folder, and they are definitely in my inbox, which I confirmed with Jeyo Mobile Companion.
So, shall I just continue with the new thread and ignore the last messages? Is there definitely a limit? Is there any other threading software?

I have never heard anything like this before.

Dubhghaill said:
There's one friend who I text regularly, and I'm not sure how many messages I have from her, but today something strange happened.
I received a message from her and it looked like it came from a different number because it started a new thread. Then I realised there wasn't another thread, and for a moment I thought I'd lost all the messages. But then I noticed they still appear on the TouchFlo.
When I tap any message from her before the first message of the new thread, it opens the message in the old style (i.e. as if threading is switched off).
I thought maybe I'd accidentally moved all the messages. But they don't appear in any other folder, and they are definitely in my inbox, which I confirmed with Jeyo Mobile Companion.
So, shall I just continue with the new thread and ignore the last messages? Is there definitely a limit? Is there any other threading software?
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Haven't heard or experienced anything like this. Usually you have a max limit of approx 50 sms in your inbox (not conversations with someone using threaded sms, but actual sms from diffrerent people), but it shouldn't behave like yours.
I'm assuming this female is (very) close to you and you do not want to delete previous sms? I would delete them and use new thread and see if same thing happens

Hi there, just by habit I never delete any of the threaded text messages to and from my girlfriend, and so there must be over well 2000 in the conversation.
The same thing happened to me once, I just assumed there was a limit on a conversation size, and so it started a new one. It's a shame how it deals with the old one though, stopping the threading. I sync'ed all the old messages using Microsoft myphone and deleted it, just leaving the new thread.

Access old thread?
krakajak said:
Hi there, just by habit I never delete any of the threaded text messages to and from my girlfriend, and so there must be over well 2000 in the conversation.
The same thing happened to me once, I just assumed there was a limit on a conversation size, and so it started a new one. It's a shame how it deals with the old one though, stopping the threading. I sync'ed all the old messages using Microsoft myphone and deleted it, just leaving the new thread.
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This exact thing has just happened to me, also texting the girlfriend ... She has told me things that i have probably agreed to and since forgoten, is there any way to look at the old thread as the touch flow only allows me to go back 25 messages from all contacts. They must still be there as some of them are still in the 25 touch flow messages, unless it has its own cache?
FYI my best estimate would be some where in the region of 1000 - 1500 sms, double that with replies so is there a thread limit of 2500 or 3000?
Any ideas?

SMS limit
Exactly same happened to me this morning...I am using the HTC 6.1 WWE Rom on my ATT tilt.
No thread of older sms but they are in my inbox (confirmed by disabling the threaded sms). Mine too have 3000+ sms on my tilt.
Do any one get the fix/work arond for the sam to see the older sms in threaded form.
[email protected]

Approximately 2740 sms in a sigle thread as i met that situation. any ideas??

SMS take forever to load

Hey guys I have the HD2 but when I have about 40 messages in the inbox from one person and i am opening the text they have sent, even though im touching the phone to write a reply the phone takes ages before it actually lets me write the reply.
Has anyone else had this problem and is there anyway I can speed it up? I find it hard to believe a £500 phone takes this long to load messages!!
Many thanks

Just a quickie. This is a known issue for HD2. Note that there are (at least) two different "SMS issue", so when you search the forum, be sure to look for the right one (SMS lag or lagging).
Look here first
As far as I know, there is not a fix yet. I don't know if the latest hotfix from HTC fixes it (the "hidden" radio update, that is). There not a fix, but there is a trick... Just when you launch the SMS tag, directly tap on the "send SMS" button => A pop window will ask you if you want to send an empty message => you obviouly answer "NO" => And bam! All the SMS are loaded and you are ready to write a new SMS or view the old ones...
Definitely a software related bug. Please report it to HTC, as all of us should...

Many thanks for it mate. Looked therough the thread and yea its the same!
Its a silly bug to be honest as sms is one of the most important aspects of a mobile.
How this got past htc's supposed quality control I have no idea.
Thanks for the tip though! And yes i will be emailing htc with the issue!

SMS Delivery Report

Hello!
Do you know of any software for our HD2, that will change the behavior of receiving sms delivery reports?
My Blackberry has an icon, that just changes, if a message has been delivered successfully. Even after 6 month i can see, if a message has been delivered.
I don't like the windows mobile default behavior of creating a "system message" that needs to be marked as unread ans so on.
Who can help me?
Sebastian

SMS delivery reports are a network thing. Call your operator and ask about them being turned off.

samsamuel said:
SMS delivery reports are a network thing. Call your operator and ask about them being turned off.
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This is not exactly what he means.
He means that once the option is enabled, he wants the software to have some sort of icon that will be put next to the message that has been sent once a delivery report comes in. The current situation, however, is that the delivery report will be put into the conversation as a 'new sms' and therefore is less practical.
I am also curious about this, however I don't think this is actually something a program can change for you, as it'd require HTC messaging client modifications. It's just the way Windows Mobile 6.x handles these reports.

Ahhhh I see. I wasn't aware of the icon thingy in the RIM OS (or whatever bberrys run on...)
I was mainly pointing out that windows mobile does not create a system message
"I don't like the windows mobile default behavior of creating a "system message"
and that it is in fact the carrier that generates the message.
Yet another tid bit to add to the hoarde of useless information clogging my brain.

Crash1983 said:
Hello!
Do you know of any software for our HD2, that will change the behavior of receiving sms delivery reports?
My Blackberry has an icon, that just changes, if a message has been delivered successfully. Even after 6 month i can see, if a message has been delivered.
I don't like the windows mobile default behavior of creating a "system message" that needs to be marked as unread ans so on.
Who can help me?
Sebastian
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I have the same issue, any hint?

I am interesed for this too

I have also been searching a long time for the same feature as most of the others here.
In my opinion it worked actually much better in WM6 where it just popped up a system message that the SMS had been delivered.
I will be keeping an eye on this thread hoping someone has a good idéa.
Regards
/Ronny

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waiting for answer too, I have the same

Bump! Haha
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You just can turn off sms delivery report without hesitating. If the sms can't be delivered you'll get notification. If there's a silence than it's been delivered. Something like this...

client-x said:
You just can turn off sms delivery report without hesitating. If the sms can't be delivered you'll get notification. If there's a silence than it's been delivered. Something like this...
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not as simple as that, , , say i send you a txt, and your phone is turned off, , i wont get a failure, because it HAS been delivered to your service center, but you haven't yet received it, , , so relying on NOT getting a failure to tell you its been delivered is useless.

To answer original old question a perfect & very configurable software exists for WM & is called SMS reports eraser.
automatically moves reports so you just get the notification icon & sound if wanted, pretty much blackberry style.
Works perfect & you still have reports for future reference ...

[Q] texting issue + fav't list issue

Hi everyone,
I just got my wildfire and I've already experienced a bit of an issue with it. I tried texting my friend today with the phone and i noticed that all the messages i send is gathered together on one end while her text messages are grouped together on the other end. I was wondering if there's a way to resolve this; I can't say I enjoy scrolling up and down endlessly trying to read my texts and try to respond to it properly.
the second issue is the fav't list. I tried setting my fav't list with the contacts on my phone that's not on fb or any other social network and it doesn't seem to work at all.
thanks for the help.
p.s. I'm not new to the forums, I started out being apart of this community as a sony ericsson x1 user, now I'm using the wildfire. It's great to be here, I'm very excited and hope to continue to help make some helpful and constructive contributions to the forums.

I guess I should explain this more clearly just to make sure.
here's what happens when I text
It seems to appear as:
Text 1 to me
Text 2 to me
Text 3 to me
Text 1 from me
Text 2 from me
Text 3 from me
I would like this showing as:
Text 1 from me
Text 1 to me
Text 2 from me
Text 2 to me
Text 3 from me
Text 3 to me
Does that make sense and is this possible?
Thanks

i know android is having a few sms issues http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9392&cnum=500&cstart=1401#c1460 but i have no idea re your issue

asian_boi said:
I guess I should explain this more clearly just to make sure.
here's what happens when I text
It seems to appear as:
Text 1 to me
Text 2 to me
Text 3 to me
Text 1 from me
Text 2 from me
Text 3 from me
I would like this showing as:
Text 1 from me
Text 1 to me
Text 2 from me
Text 2 to me
Text 3 from me
Text 3 to me
Does that make sense and is this possible?
Thanks
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Strange, in my sms app it shows up just as you would want.. and i didn't change any of the settings
Are you sure that your time settings are right? Because the ordening of the smses happens by the timestamp of a given sms, and it relays on the time of the phone that sends the sms. So if your friends phone sends an sms at, lets say, 9h, but its in fact 10h at your phone, your phone will still classify the sms "receved at nine o clock". In the sms app it will be classified just like that, so in this way it is not unlikely to think that all your smses (or those of your friend) will be clustered tougether because of a systematic time stamp mistake in one of the phones.
Hmm, not sure I'm making myself very clear but, just check your time settings ;-)
ErwinP

Thanks guys for your helpful suggestions.
Erwin P: I think it is the time stamp problem. luckily after some research and some help from a friend I was able to get a hold of a program call sms time fix. it seems to have solve some of the problems for now; atlease my phone is recieving messages like the way that i want them to, although it is still sending it somewhat delayed here and there.
I was wondering though...is this the problem of the phone, or the problem with my service provider?