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Some of you people may find this gayish but I am worried about how "scratchable" is the screen?
Ok, I can live with the fingerprints, simply wiping the device from time to time, but having some scratches on that marwellous screen would be a real disaster.
So far I can rank some devicer in terms of hardness of their screens' plastic:
1) iPhone (some kind of glass or smth.. hard to scratch)
2) HTC Diamond / PRO (plastic, but pretty hard though)
3) SE Xperia X1 (plastic, but i get the feeling of nearly scratching it with my nails)
So, where would you guys think the Touch HD would be?
PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant.
Thank you.
anyone?........
gayish...???
gayish...??? what is that???
Not sure how you can expect accurate feedback on this (i.e actual resistance to scrathing rather than just a feeling) without someone actually testing it (possibly accidently) on thier lovely new gadget
Also:
"PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant."
To be honest, a well designed and well applied screen protector is practically invisible (imho). Particularly with flush devices, since you don't get the edge around the recess.
I just applied one to the wife's iPhone a couple of months back and she did not even notice it. But she also dropped the phone the other day and I think it's time to order a new protector. Perhaps the screen would have survived scratch free, but I'd rather not take that chance
Zuber
Just my thoughts, Zuber.
A good screen protector, applied carefully, with patience! is a great thing! I use the Javoedge screen protectors and they are excellent. Doesnt even feel as if its there!
Just put one on my wife's iPhone yesterday, and there is no difference between using the device with the screen protector, and its not looking one bit different to "without" it.
I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
scratchable
I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
Dont' have a lab that can do experiment and tell you the hardness....but one thing for sure, HTC screen is scratch resistant. Had it for 6months, kept my screen sparkling clean all the time by cleaning it with microfibre cloth everyday. Till now, not a single scratch can be seen...happy with it!
Was in a Mac shop once, the iPhone sales person demonstrated the hardness of iPhone sceen by scratching with a pair of Scissors. Any dude dare try this on THD???
All that I've done so far is to take a coin and scratch a THD dummy display set in the shop. Absolutely no issue.....and I believe the dummy screen is the same as the real device.
mlekas said:
I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
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Ouch! I'm very careful when placing my THD in pocket....may not be the same the next time I take it out!
try the zagg invisible shield..looks amazing and of good price. I am ordering one right now!
georgegeneva said:
I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
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hey,
seems you applied the GadgetShieldz on your HD. how it looks, is it scratch free?
regards
Zagg
I just bought my wife an iphone (2nd hand) which came with a Zagg shield (the whole phone not just the screen). Amazing stuff, seems unscratchable. The only thing with the full body shield is that it is impossible to get on 100% perfectly.....still....it's staying on and after a year (that's how old the phone is) the shield doesn't have a mark on it. There's a youtube video of someone scratching an iphone up with a set of keys and then attempting the same on one with a shield. Check it out...I was impressed.
Hey guys,
well i've been waiting for a week now and my bodygaurdz hasnt come in the mail yet and guess what? i dropped my phone today on cement that has the pebbles in it so it just thrashed my phone. I can like 10 lil scratches in it on the front of all places. I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on scratch removers?
Here are the two I was looking at on amazon.
Displex<--Bad idea read it's bad for touch screens
http://www.amazon.com/Displex-Displ...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1229120772&sr=8-12
Idrops
http://www.amazon.com/PodShop-iDrop...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1229120772&sr=8-2
Radtech Ice Cream
http://www.radtech.us/Products/IceCreme.aspx
Applesauce
http://www.applesaucepolish.com/
wow, that's pretty cool, I was looking for something to take the deep scratch on my tilt. Good info.
also, will body guards cover up the scratches or will it make it even more noticeable?
Bodyguarz does help cover up some minor scratches but it might still be visible. I'm using the shield right now and its not really that great. Makes the touch screen less sensitive by a reasonable amount.
If anyone gets this done, please post up the results. I have 2 scratches I'd love to get rid of!
none of them work for touch screens so it would be bad idea to use\
looks like they are only able to fix screens and shells of ipods and such
ice creme says it works for iphone 3g but only works for back if you read.
i recommend : iDrops
ive used it on my Zune, Tilt and Fuze..works wonders, adds a wicked shine to ur screen ..and its only $15 bucks too..if u look hard enough u can find it on Ebay for $8 or $9 bucks
Late,
Jstar
A new contestant:
http://www.janvil.com/plastic_polish.htm
But Jstar you have actually used idrops on your touch screen and it fixed the scratches without damaging the screen or reducing the screen responsiveness?
ok so i ordered Ice Cream and it works pretty good. it does get minor scratches out. My scratches were pretty bad so it reduced them significantly but it took a lot of time and several coats. Of course as all scratch removers they are not miracle workers and it just takes patience to use them.
triplehtown said:
A new contestant:
http://www.janvil.com/plastic_polish.htm
But Jstar you have actually used idrops on your touch screen and it fixed the scratches without damaging the screen or reducing the screen responsiveness?
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see the thing is i didnt apply the solution directly to the screen.
i went bought a cloth like the ones i use for my flatscreens and put some drops on that. wiped the screen a few times and SHAZAM..all gone.
so to u answer ur question..yes, ive used it on my TILT, ZUNE and FUZE.
Im telling u..it works every time! it was a good buy
Late,
Jstar
hieu2ueih said:
ok so i ordered Ice Cream and it works pretty good. it does get minor scratches out. My scratches were pretty bad so it reduced them significantly but it took a lot of time and several coats. Of course as all scratch removers they are not miracle workers and it just takes patience to use them.
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I have a scratch/small abrasion on the chrome part (of course the part that the Invisible Shield doesn't cover...)
Did you use this on the chrome part or the screen?
sgniwder said:
I have a scratch/small abrasion on the chrome part (of course the part that the Invisible Shield doesn't cover...)
Did you use this on the chrome part or the screen?
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same here on my tilt 5 way navigation, any way to remove the scratch btw i live in chile so any magic tricks? xD
Hi all,
i just want to tell every body that do not use your stylus on the screen without screen protector coz when i used it without my screen p. it SCRATCHS do not ask me how but it happend.So always use your screen protector on the phone to keep it away from being scratched.
GRAY_FOX
Know you know why they put one in the box for free .
gray_fox2012 said:
Hi all,
i just want to tell every body that do not use your stylus on the screen without screen protector coz when i used it without my screen p. it SCRATCHS do not ask me how but it happend.So always use your screen protector on the phone to keep it away from being scratched.
GRAY_FOX
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I appreciate your warning, however this has been discussed in great depth before on this thread and is why HTC so nicely provided you with a protector in the first place
thanks for reply .I do not know this thread discussed before,and if i knew so my screen still clean
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thanks for reply .I do not know this thread discussed before,and if i knew so my screen still clean
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If you search you will find that there are threads about replacement covers for people who have scratched their HD. Most likely in the Blackstone accessories forum
I knew this after seeing my work mates Diamond, he asked me what the clear plastic on the box was for just a little too late Im afraid
Having had an LG Viewty for 18 months and using their stylus on it constantly, I found the screen protector to be much more of a hinderance than a help and as a consequence had not used the screen protector on my HTC Touch HD.
YMMW.
IMHO As far as quality goes there are screen protectors and there are screen protectors.
I always use one but have had problems in the past with el-cheapo ones so I only buy decent brands which a worth the month as they last a LONG time, do not hinder the interaction with the touch screen or alter the viewing experience.
And don't worry too much Gray_Fox, again IMHO it doesn't matter what you write on this forum someone will always chip in with a very supportive "use the search function!" Do a search on being told to use the search function and you will see what I mean ;-)
i think ive used mt stylus twice since i got device
yh i never really use mine especially with duttys rom
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it SCRATCHS do not ask me how but it happend.So always use your screen protector on the phone to keep it away from being scratched.
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Obviously it can scratch, it's only plastic. The front of my HD has little scratches all over it, all on the included screen protector.
Keep the tip of your stylus clean or use a screen protector, pretty much common sense really.
I use mine all the time, and i have no scratches at all. You people must press VERY hard!
Kind of them to bundle a screen protector with the package but why not send a Blackstone that's already got one applied? Or even better just make a more resilient screen, I don't remember any other of my HTCs having this problem!
Hi, does anyone have dust under touch screen and LCD close to volume up button. When you look on the sun or strong light.
Theres gap between LCD and top glass and bad sealing around. Have never had any spec of dust in TD1.
Hope its not gonna cover whole display soon... ((
Sent it to the service center, they gonna exchange display with top touch screen. Thats HTC display defect...
They just blowed away the dust between LCD and Touch screen (not perfectly), I think that glued LCD with touch surface is much more better, this is not very good solution on TD2. Im disappoited with HTC Company.
WELL, MAYBE IM TOO PERFECTIONIST...
After several disassembly of my TD2 (testing) found the place where the dust comes in... Will describe it with pics later on...
Nope. Just a spec of dust that got under my screen protector
I've got a spec of dust close to the speaker side of the screen
oh, 2bad :/
this is indeed frustrating.
i'm on the lucky side...for now.
pedroo said:
Hi, does anyone have dust under the display close to volume up button. When you look on the sun or strong light.
Theres too much space between display and top glass and bad sealing around. Have never had any spec of dust in TD1.
Hope its not gonna cover whole display soon... ((
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Yes I have exactly that. Very annoying!!! I too hope it doesn't get any worse.
I have also noticed dust between the two layers of the touchscreen in bright sun light. IMO it's a severe design flaw!
I had dust under the screen yesterday and today. Right now it seems to have migrated away.
The Diamond 1's LCD disply and Digitizer were pressed and seald together as one unit I beleive. The D2 isn't and has a Gap between the glass and LCD. I much prefer the LCD up against the glass with no gap. looks sharper, brighter, and better.
I think they skimped out a little on the D2 quality to keep cost down and also economize a little. Look at the packaging. I really don't mind it because the quality is still good and HTC probably saved some bucks and will thrive and give us even better phones when the economy strengthens.
HTC Touch Freak said:
I had dust under the screen yesterday and today. Right now it seems to have migrated away.
The Diamond 1's LCD disply and Digitizer were pressed and seald together as one unit I beleive. The D2 isn't and has a Gap between the glass and LCD. I much prefer the LCD up against the glass with no gap. looks sharper, brighter, and better.
I think they skimped out a little on the D2 quality to keep cost down and also economize a little. Look at the packaging. I really don't mind it because the quality is still good and HTC probably saved some bucks and will thrive and give us even better phones when the economy strengthens.
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you're right.
I got a diamond last year.everything were perfect.
in 6 days ago, I got a Diamond2
the box..........so cheap..
well , that doesn't a matter.
BUT, when I check ....
1.the backplate is very shining ...............
What,.... when they were painting, they DID NOT check the dust on the
backplate.......
so , I change a new phone
2.the ups said that Diamond1 the display and that screen we touch or tap is a
same unit is really correct. In Taiwan, if your panel got any problems, you have to change the whole part.
at the final, to me , that isn't a problem ..
Because, the new Diamon2 I got , got a same problem
(dust in screen, and now , I can not find it lol.
but I have to say,
In taiwan , we really hope, HTC have got better and better..
with a bset quality.
hey diecorroder
so is TD2 good??
i dont know what to buy.... the HTC thouch HD or the TD2....
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so is TD2 good??
i dont know what to buy.... the HTC thouch HD or the TD2....
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HA HA, in Taiwan that is a really really old conversation.
at the final, the point is
1.do you really need a 3.5 phonejack?
2.do you care about the size of you phone?
3.and the performance, it's same. Just like custom rom from Diamond2 can work on HD, so .. perfermance is not the point when you have to choose from the two phone.
to me, the HTC earphone I have is a really old model, but it got a gool quality,so I don't need a 3.5, and it's too big to put into my pocket
so I choose DIAMOND2
by the way , original rom in Diamond2 is really good..
(it is not my first HTC pda phone, I have got CHT9000,9100,9110,Elfin,Diamond..., but truely, it's first time I did not so hurry to find a custom Rom)
hey
well TD2 is new here in europe hehe..
3.5mm jack is stupid.read this.
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6885
The htc touch HD is 3.8 inch and TD2 is 3.2 inch its not that much of a difrance.
and the touch screen is better on the TD2.
so i will go for the TD2
one more thing, it says that TD2 supports WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, M4V, AVI formats. Dose that means that i dont need coreplayer??
I have experienced the same problem of dust accumulating beneath the screen in the top left corner.....only had the device a week!.
I sent it back for exchange and have now received another new device. Ive noticed the screen on the new device flexes a little when you press it.
I guess time will tell, whether this will be as bad!
me too
My TD2 isn't even one week old and I have the exact same problem in the same position!
...really pisses me off. how can something like this happen to such an experienced class leading company?
this is just cheap!
Dust under the display
that really bad news
i think i will wait for diamond 3
Aqrab said:
Dust under the display
that really bad news
i think i will wait for diamond 3
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yeah, me too although i gonna buy a new one, but after read this, i think i need to think carefully
I think if HTC members that there are problems with the dust, they (hopefully) will search for a solution
This is not a good advert for HTC
HTC Touch Freak said:
I had dust under the screen yesterday and today. Right now it seems to have migrated away.
The Diamond 1's LCD disply and Digitizer were pressed and seald together as one unit I beleive. The D2 isn't and has a Gap between the glass and LCD. I much prefer the LCD up against the glass with no gap. looks sharper, brighter, and better.
I think they skimped out a little on the D2 quality to keep cost down and also economize a little. Look at the packaging. I really don't mind it because the quality is still good and HTC probably saved some bucks and will thrive and give us even better phones when the economy strengthens.
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if the TD2 display really glass ? I thought it was plastic
colonel said:
if the TD2 display really glass ? I thought it was plastic
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It's beleive it is glass. I don't know exactly. Some people on here have complained that it is cheap flexible plastic but it is not the same as the Elfin. That was plastic for sure and I ave already replaced the digitizer on the Elfin.
We all know that there are 2 layers to the screen and I beleive it is what makes it more sensitive and accurate than other resistive screens. (among other things)
My Tought
There is a plastic membrane, if you take the stylus and look across the plane of the screen while pressing it you will see it flex. This flex is limited though due to there being glass. Tap and poke at it and you can hear/feel it. This is also proven by the fact that you can press with fairly great pressure and never come in contact with the LCD. You never get and color mixtures or whatever that's called. So the digitizer is 2 layers. A plastic to highten risitiveness of the screen and glass to protect the lcd and limit the memrane travel.
Pleas note that this is just what I have observed and noticed about the device and beleive it to be correct. Do not take it as 100% truth but please do observe the flexing and how you can press fairly hard without even touching the actual LCD.
Touch Freak, I belive you are right, makes total sense...
No other with the dust problem???
I want to migrate from TP to TD2... but if the dust problem persist I probably desist...
later
Tyrone
I don't have any dust problem with my TD2...
I think we'll need to start some poll thread...
hi all,
is the legends screen scratch resistant? is anyone not using a screen protector? i read that it does not come with a screen protector.
thanks!
orouborus said:
hi all,
is the legends screen scratch resistant? is anyone not using a screen protector? i read that it does not come with a screen protector.
thanks!
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hey, i have the HTC Legend, and i don't use a screen protector.. i got no scratch so far..
TheTmac said:
hey, i have the HTC Legend, and i don't use a screen protector.. i got no scratch so far..
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thanks!
i sent them an email and they said that the hero, hd2 etc with capacitive screens are scratch resistant that is why no screen protector is included. i would feel better if they would really write it or something. i dont want to use protectors anymore and trust their product.
No scratch
My Legend is over 2 months old and no scratch so far, but the display is a finger print nightmare.
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My Legend is over 2 months old and no scratch so far, but the display is a finger print nightmare.
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i know! so what do you use to clean the screen? i just realy want to stop using screen protectors. if htc is not providing any, i would believe that it is scratch resistant.
water is enough!
I think, generally, most screens now are pretty resistant. Screen protectors are highly overrated in my experience, and honestly most of them look worse than the scratches would. Why make something look bad, in attempt to protect it from looking worn
Anyway my Legend seems to be very resistant, even to fingerprints. As long as you wash your hands once in a while it's great at resisting fingerprints.
No scratches so far and I have it since the release. Also when I put my phone in my pocket and get it back out all my fingerprints are wiped off .
when i got my legend, i was really blown away by how beatiful and crisp the screen was. i placed an anti fingerprint screen protector and it made the entire screen look dull and less vibrant. but i dont want my legend to get scratched etc. but i really think htc is making scratch resistant screens. i also sent an email to htc regarding the phones screen and this is their response.
we suggest you to purchase a pouch to protect your phone instead of the non-official screen protector.Normally the touch screen of hero or legend is scratch resistant but HTC cannot promise and guarantee any potential risks to the screen by user's careless using.
so its not really reaounding that it is scratch resistant like when iphone or se says it. so im not that confident. but i really want to remove the protector.
I'm using a pouch, I'm not a big fan of screenprotectors. Pouch = great for protecting your phone against scratches .
Unfortunately they're not going to be very ballsy in any claims especially since the person replying to your email is just a random rep. Plus they're not like Apple who only has a few phones to focus on and hype about.
It all comes down to what's in your pocket with you put the phone in there. I basically have one pocket for the phone and nothing else. The other pocket can hold the keys, etc.
I have noticed that the screen must be made of something seriously dense because it nearly shaves my thumbnail if I run it along the home button the wrong way. That itself gives me a lot of confidence in it, oddly enough.
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I'm using a pouch, I'm not a big fan of screenprotectors. Pouch = great for protecting your phone against scratches .
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I'm looking for an ultra slim pouch made specifically for the Legend so there's no added bulk. Any idea? Nothing from http://www.senacases.com or http://www.beyzacases.com yet.
rewen said:
Unfortunately they're not going to be very ballsy in any claims especially since the person replying to your email is just a random rep. Plus they're not like Apple who only has a few phones to focus on and hype about.
It all comes down to what's in your pocket with you put the phone in there. I basically have one pocket for the phone and nothing else. The other pocket can hold the keys, etc.
I have noticed that the screen must be made of something seriously dense because it nearly shaves my thumbnail if I run it along the home button the wrong way. That itself gives me a lot of confidence in it, oddly enough.
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that is what i do as well. i put my phone in a seperate pocket and check for any lint or anything before putting it in, then wallet, coins, keys go to the other pocket. i just hope that htc can really say that it is. i asked them about the screen of hd2 and they said it was scratch resistant, but nothing was said officially though. so quite hard to risk. tsk tsk. they should just say it instead of saying that it is glass covered.
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I'm looking for an ultra slim pouch made specifically for the Legend so there's no added bulk. Any idea? Nothing from http://www.senacases.com or http://www.beyzacases.com yet.
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try capdase. or try some pouches from htc.
I bought this one. It's quite slim, and fits nicely in the pocket..
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-po-s491-legend-standard-leather-pouch-black-p24118.htm
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I bought this one. It's quite slim, and fits nicely in the pocket..
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-po-s491-legend-standard-leather-pouch-black-p24118.htm
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I also bought HTC PO S491 Legend Standard Leather Pouch. I think it is the perfect match since it's HTC genuine accessory made for Legend. It's very slim and the leather quality is really high. I would recommend this pouch to every Legend owner.
Too bad they don't seem to ship to Canada... sigh....
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Screen protector...
I've always used screen protectors since my first Pocket PC way back in 2001. It's a personal preference, but my feeling is this; If HTC believe the screen is scratch resistant and therefore a screen protector is not needed, why do they manufacture them specifically for this device?
I purchased a pack of 2 when I bought my Legend last month - genuine HTC Legend screen protectors!!?? Why make them if you don't think the device needs them?
grahamkdt said:
I've always used screen protectors since my first Pocket PC way back in 2001. It's a personal preference, but my feeling is this; If HTC believe the screen is scratch resistant and therefore a screen protector is not needed, why do they manufacture them specifically for this device?
I purchased a pack of 2 when I bought my Legend last month - genuine HTC Legend screen protectors!!?? Why make them if you don't think the device needs them?
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i have been using htc phones since 2007, ive had a lot of phones and they usually provide screen protectors. since i bought hero and hd2 they never provided it for screen protectors, so its quite weird for them not to provide for hd2 for their largest screen. i somehow believe that the screen is really scratch resistant. in my opinion
i personally use screen protectors on my cellphone/smartphone.