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Is there a reg key to reduce the size of the sip panel/menubar in the jasjar
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In short....No.
You could have a go with the VGA hack though, that'd do the trick...?
SPB Tips and Tricks has this as an option, it is not free though.
found this
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip|MenuBarHeight
changing the dword does nothing though!
The SIP panel is one size only. You can't resize it - it would leave holes on the sides. The only way is if you run your device at VGA resolution, which makes EVERYTHING smaller.
The sizes in the top and bottom are similarly hard coded in Shell.exe. The devices are supposed to look a certain way on set resolutions. It's not like the menubars in Windows that you can reduce or enlarge, unfortunately.
It is sad, though, so lose so much potential space on the screen. That is why some people prefer to run VGA devices in the hacked VGA modes.
i want to increase the softkey size in VGA mode so i can push the buttuns with my fingers easier is this possible ?
I feel the same about this. In many applications, the buttons are just too small in VGA mode. Would be nice if there is a way to bring it back to the size used in QVGA.
But, wait, why don't we simply toggle back to QVGA mode? The internet browser, which is VGA aware, could display exactly the same amount of data (choose small font in QVGA = choose large font in VGA). Same goes for excel and word as both of these applications are already VGA aware. In that way, the taskbar and menu buttons could remain big, which is my preferred size for them. Most of the other applications (phone, games, settings, activesync, calculator, camera, music players, pocket mechanics, etc simply looks way way better in QVGA, as the buttons and fonts look more proportionate and undistorted.
The only place not VGA aware, and would be nice if it is, is the today desktop and when you start program, or go to the setting screen. Not enough icons could appear on the screen without scrolling. Another one if the file explorer. Then there is the indexes of documents before getting into excel and word (would be nice if at that point we could already have zoom features). These are the places that I like true VGA to kick in.
Is there a way to toggle between VGA and nonVGA without a reset? If we can toggle that like the screen orientation, it would be real nice.
well a lot of prorgrams arent VGA aware... like text messaging outlook email etc. or atleast it doesnt seem to be... and as far as the internet explorer goes you may downsize the font but resolution still plays an important part
anyways i looked around in the registry and i couldnt find any settings anyone have any insight?
boinger66 said:
well a lot of prorgrams arent VGA aware... like text messaging outlook email etc. or atleast it doesnt seem to be... and as far as the internet explorer goes you may downsize the font but resolution still plays an important part
anyways i looked around in the registry and i couldnt find any settings anyone have any insight?
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the pie in wm6 has a hi-res mode.
so wait for wm6
i would love to have WM6 but as its not available
was just asking that is there a possible way to increase softkey size
shouldnt be too hard to do ?
boinger66 said:
i would love to have WM6 but as its not available
was just asking that is there a possible way to increase softkey size
shouldnt be too hard to do ?
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Sorry mate not as far as I know either.
VJToggleToday II can alter the size of the Today screen softkeys.
It could probably be hacked up to change any windows' softkeys, but I haven't thought about that yet, it's an inelegant solution.
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hmm how would you go about this ?
Hi, I'm in need of a working "enlarged start menu"-application on my SE X1. The thing is that I really much need it to be freeware, and I suppose that "XDA-Team Enlarged Start Menu" isn't (correct?). I'm thinking about developing the application myself, but I would like to know if anyone here has any information about where to start? Is is just a matter of changing some registry keys? XML-files? Thankful for all the help i can get!
as far as i understand, the XDA Enlarged Start Menu is just taken from one of the other HTC devices and is not "payware" or anything like that.
if anyone was developing an enlarged Start Menu, i'd love to see a kinda fullscreen version, this would make it much easier to navigate. kinda in the style of iContact or the latest volume control taken from Diamond. i don't really se why the start menu needs to be only a percentage of the screen size anyway, just seems like bad design, they've made it look like the Start Menu on a Windows Desktop PC so that we all know it's Windows, but have not actually thought about the interface being user friendly for a handheld device. for drunk people with fat fingers. like me.
Dr J said:
if anyone was developing an enlarged Start Menu, i'd love to see a kinda fullscreen version, this would make it much easier to navigate. kinda in the style of iContact or the latest volume control taken from Diamond. i don't really se why the start menu needs to be only a percentage of the screen size anyway, just seems like bad design, they've made it look like the Start Menu on a Windows Desktop PC so that we all know it's Windows, but have not actually thought about the interface being user friendly for a handheld device. for drunk people with fat fingers. like me.
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yes man, I absolutely agree !!! It´s funny, I never really thought about start menu, but now when I read your suggestion it just seems really crazy how much possibilities for improvement there are.
I thought about a completely customizable start menu, fullscreen.
Maybe with a kind of plugin system, volume / vib toggle, backlight strength slider, power off+soft-reset buttons....*sigh* THAT would be cool !
regards,
Martin
What about Touch Launcher http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433862
It´s a normal app, but I was talking about a REAL replacement. It should hide when I tap "Start" again, and, as I said, it should be really customizable.
To all devs out there: Is anyone interested in coding such an app ? I think this is desperatly needed to make WM a bit more usable, although there are already tons of good software out there.
regards,
Martin
m.schmidler said:
It´s a normal app, but I was talking about a REAL replacement. It should hide when I tap "Start" again, and, as I said, it should be really customizable.
To all devs out there: Is anyone interested in coding such an app ? I think this is desperatly needed to make WM a bit more usable, although there are already tons of good software out there.
regards,
Martin
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Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
Mikulec said:
Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
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hmmm, main thing i want is fullscreen. that one seems nice feature-wise, but it's not what i'm after.
devs, do any of you know how they changed the size of the Start Menu from the old style to the new enlarged one?
if we know how to do this then maybe we can hack the existing app to at least lengthen right across the width of the screen... or if it was hacked with a config we could pick how many items we wanted...
this could be a great project for the coders!
Mikulec said:
Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
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Well, quickmenu is _almost_ perfect. If it only was more finger-friendly. Being able to scroll trough menus like in icontact and all so many other apps would be great for it, but at least having twice as big menu entries would be enough in most cases. It has all the features needed, it just mimicks the original start menu a bit too much
Touch menu from touch commander suite is exactly what you want,and it has and application menu enlarged. Unfortunaly its not freeware.
Here is little something about system fonts:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms901091.aspx
By changing some registry values you can change size of start menu (including font size etc.) and popup menu as well.
Andreal said:
Here is little something about system fonts:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms901091.aspx
By changing some registry values you can change size of start menu (including font size etc.) and popup menu as well.
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Ohh thankyou! But, using PHM Regedit I've tried changing the Ht-value for BarFnt, which didn't do anything. Perhaps you have some pointers to what I should try?
nelshh said:
Ohh thankyou! But, using PHM Regedit I've tried changing the Ht-value for BarFnt, which didn't do anything. Perhaps you have some pointers to what I should try?
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BarFnt values are for menu bars (for example: bottom bar in total commander).
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GWE\Menu\PopFnt
is for popup menu (screen 1 shows Ht value of 1200)
Truly, I don't know how to change start menu font size via registry.
If you want to have full screen menu try mort buttons
can you launch mort buttons by tapping Start on the screen?
maybe by editing the registry ?
If anyone can duplicate the Touch Commander one it would be perfect. I have touchcommander but do not use it anymore, unfortunately you have to install the whole program to be able to use the Large menu option.
The great thing about it is it enlarges menus in all programs.
Sorry for bringing up an older thread, but I think this is still unsolved!
I also would like to have a fullscreen start menu. I tried quickmenu 2.8,but it just isnt what Im looking for. For me it would be fine if clicking on the start menu would bring up a dialog like when you click startmenu -- programs.
Hope that someone has an idea!
QUICKMENU 2.8 for me too... ^_^
I'd only add that scroll movement and ability to customize the start icon (it already does this, but only with one icon).
The menues in like Outlook are incredible small, use this tweak from the Diamond tweak thread to make them more finger friendly
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\gwe\menu\popfnt
and change the value for the "Ht" entry to "1000" decimal
Now I just need to change the startmenu for it is also incredible small - and the HTCenlargestartmenu cab available makes the start menu funny on Swedish OS. In English OS I am sure it will work fine and it also sets the menues bigger like in the regtweak above
Cheers! This is just the sort of thing we'll need once we start getting our X1's :]
You can make it a lot easier if you use SK-Tools. You can make a lot of changes including the font-sizes. No need for manual changes and it has a set-back-function, if I remember well. I used it for my G900 too, which has WVGA too at the same size
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You can make it a lot easier if you use SK-Tools. You can make a lot of changes including the font-sizes. No need for manual changes and it has a set-back-function, if I remember well. I used it for my G900 too, which has WVGA too at the same size
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Can it also make the startmenu bigger ?
where to get english os ?
Hi easycure1974,
yes, it can do this and a lot more
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Hi easycure1974,
yes, it can do this and a lot more
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I must be blind, I have owned this app since years but i have not found how to change the startmenu size - must look harder
Start sk-tools, then tune-up, then got through the tabs at the bottom to fonts or so (after colours, sorry, I have the german version and don't know the english names), there the 8. point is menu-bar-font-size (or so). Play here and you see the start-menu grow But remember, it needs a softreset to get the new settings!
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Start sk-tools, then tune-up, then got through the tabs at the bottom to fonts or so (after colours, sorry, I have the german version and don't know the english names), there the 8. point is menu-bar-font-size (or so). Play here and you see the start-menu grow But remember, it needs a softreset to get the new settings!
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Found it but it does not change the size of the startmenu
What do you mean with the size of the start menu? If you make the font bigger, the start menu, using this font, gets bigger too. I have tried it and got a start menu up to nearly the width of the screen (much too big).
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What do you mean with the size of the start menu? If you make the font bigger, the start menu, using this font, gets bigger too. I have tried it and got a start menu up to nearly the width of the screen (much too big).
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Strange, for me nothings happens with it - the menues in apps are bigger by ther other font setting but with that nothing happens
Hi all,
I'm not sure what its called, but you know the context menus that come up basically whenever you hold your pointer over something for a while? It annoys me with the size they are in wm6.5. I love the speed of wm6.5 (tried both xplode's r7 (about to install 7.1...) and swampy's rls) but it really annoys me that they've made everything so big. Seems to take twice as long to do simple things now because now you have to scroll down menus to find what you're looking for. Is there anyway to bring this back to the good old "classic" sizes? I can't seem to find an option anywhere... and I realise loading a skinning app is just going to slow the OS down making the whole upgrade to 6.5 kinda pointless.
Also, does anyone know a way to speed up the actual time taken to register a tap and hold command? So that we don't have to spend as long to bring up the context menus?
Thanks in advance~
-kdp
that's a lot of questions. let me start with saying that i can not guarantee you, that the reg tweaks work. i found them for different devices and checked both my devices and didn't have the reg keys in there. so i don't knoiw if it helps you. Maybe, if i find out more, i'll post it later:
1. The size of the context and softkey menus:
a. the easiest way to influence the size and look of those menus would be, installing another theme. not just the color will change, but also the entire looks, so if you have a .tsk theme, copy it to the device and activate it, you will see it changed.
b. regitry tweak:
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\
there should be two dword values that you can change to whatever you like.
ht=height is default set to 1000
wt=width is default set to 700
2. a skinning app is gonna slow down the os
- true, with wm6.5 there is really no need for anything else to make the graphics any nicer
3. tap and hold time:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay
right-click, select properties, and enter a value from zero to 999 milliseconds
if that value, does not exist, create it (string value)
if those values didn't work, you should try out advanced config, which can be downloaded here: http://www.pocketpc.ch/news/42529-freeware-advanced-config-3-0-a.html
there you have more than 200 tweaks for the os and don't need to search the registry for any values.
first off, a big thank you for the speediness of your reply.
i tried out the other tsk files i have... but unfortunately i don't have any older ones from wm5/6, only the newer 6.5 ones. they didn't seem to make much difference in size of anything... only the actual colour/font schemes. if you have any older tsk files that you wouldn't mind uploading, that'd be much appreciated as something to try.
the softkeys aren't so much an issue - i've got wisbar to disable them (yes yes, i know wisbar is a skinning app... but i prefer a nice cascading start menu to something i need to fumble through to find stuff any day) - its more the context menus that are annoying me.
the registry edit is interesting. changing the height and width actually also changes the zoom on the font size... i'm not sure how this is being calculated, but the font is clearly getting smaller the smaller you set the dimensions. it seems like its taking a predefined box with the text designed to take up a predefined percentage of it and then letting you put in the dimensions of the box... basically so that no matter what numbers you plug in, you'll always have the rather annoying amount of space being wasted between items in the context menus. though all that said and done, 750 for height and 350 for width are far more workable than the previous settings. more than legible too imo~
the tap and hold time tweak worked wonderfully
thanks again~
Tap and Hold time delay Setting
I found your post ref to Tap and Hold delays. I tried this Tap and Hold setting you said worked on your phone (see below) I tried it as shown below on a HTC wm 6.5 HTC pure(diamond2), and did not see a change, were you able to shorten the delay? Is that done with a String? or Dword?
3. tap and hold time:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay
right-click, select properties, and enter a value from zero to 999 milliseconds
if that value, does not exist, create it (string value).
I have spent hours searching the registry for a solution
it was a dword iirc... tbh, this hasn't been so much of an issue for me with the newer releases so i haven't bothered so much.
koi_desi_pagal said:
first off, a big thank you for the speediness of your reply.
i tried out the other tsk files i have... but unfortunately i don't have any older ones from wm5/6, only the newer 6.5 ones. they didn't seem to make much difference in size of anything... only the actual colour/font schemes. if you have any older tsk files that you wouldn't mind uploading, that'd be much appreciated as something to try.
the softkeys aren't so much an issue - i've got wisbar to disable them (yes yes, i know wisbar is a skinning app... but i prefer a nice cascading start menu to something i need to fumble through to find stuff any day) - its more the context menus that are annoying me.
the registry edit is interesting. changing the height and width actually also changes the zoom on the font size... i'm not sure how this is being calculated, but the font is clearly getting smaller the smaller you set the dimensions. it seems like its taking a predefined box with the text designed to take up a predefined percentage of it and then letting you put in the dimensions of the box... basically so that no matter what numbers you plug in, you'll always have the rather annoying amount of space being wasted between items in the context menus. though all that said and done, 750 for height and 350 for width are far more workable than the previous settings. more than legible too imo~
the tap and hold time tweak worked wonderfully
thanks again~
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If you still need themes for wm6.1, try http://www.wm6themes.com/
I use one from that site on my BA, but since i don't have wm6.5 installed right now, i can't tell you whether it'll help in your situation or not.