Is there a reg key to reduce the size of the sip panel/menubar in the jasjar
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In short....No.
You could have a go with the VGA hack though, that'd do the trick...?
SPB Tips and Tricks has this as an option, it is not free though.
found this
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip|MenuBarHeight
changing the dword does nothing though!
The SIP panel is one size only. You can't resize it - it would leave holes on the sides. The only way is if you run your device at VGA resolution, which makes EVERYTHING smaller.
The sizes in the top and bottom are similarly hard coded in Shell.exe. The devices are supposed to look a certain way on set resolutions. It's not like the menubars in Windows that you can reduce or enlarge, unfortunately.
It is sad, though, so lose so much potential space on the screen. That is why some people prefer to run VGA devices in the hacked VGA modes.
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Has anyone played around with SPB's FullScreen Keyboard and the Athena instead of using the hardware keyboard that it comes with?
Would be nice to reduce the "size" of what fits in my pocket....
Thanks in advance.
benmorris said:
Has anyone played around with SPB's FullScreen Keyboard and the Athena instead of using the hardware keyboard that it comes with?
Would be nice to reduce the "size" of what fits in my pocket....
Thanks in advance.
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I played with that on my old PDA which was only 3.5". It did not work very well because the screen is too small for two hand typing. I don't yet have a HTC Anthena/Dopod U1000, but my guess is that it would work perfectly given the larger screen size.
benmorris said:
Has anyone played around with SPB's FullScreen Keyboard and the Athena instead of using the hardware keyboard that it comes with?
Would be nice to reduce the "size" of what fits in my pocket....
Thanks in advance.
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Well I'm using Fitaly and I find that it's a little bit too big for Athena. I need to find a way to reduce the size of Fitaly just by 30%.
Look for Happy tapping keyboard
Happy tapping key board works great. Select the vga bmp's. I find the tiger skin quite nice.
If you're going to install ozVGA or MvRTrueVGA, then as far as I know your only choice is Resco Keyboard. ( edit: tengo does vga too)
If you're going to stay with QVGA, and are looking for full screen keybaord, then apart from SPb, you might want to try Hikeyboard. I like Hikeyboard instead of Spb more. The reasons are:
1) Hikeyboard gives you the solution as non-full screen as well as full screen input.
2) In the full screen mode, you have the ability to see the whole page of what you're typing, whereas with Spb you have to get out of it to reveal the document.
It's just unfortunate that they don't have a VGA version.
I think you may also want to consider Ten-go. I dismissed this initially, but now I think I'm going to look at it seriously. Even if it does not support VGA mode it will still be very useable ( edit: it supports vga mode!) because there are only 6 keys to press. It works very much like the predictive text of your mobile phone when you do SMS. Very fast and very few keystroke.
Anyone have screenshots of a sof tkeyboard on the actual device?
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If you're going to stay with QVGA, and are looking for full screen keybaord, then apart from SPb, you might want to try Hikeyboard. I like Hikeyboard instead of Spb more.
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..stay with QVGA on the Athena? Am I missing something?
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..stay with QVGA on the Athena? Am I missing something?
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ha ha.. how shall I put it? Lets just say that i'm still using both modes depending in situation. I hve quite bad eyesight so I can't see some icons and fonts.
If u hve 20/20 eyesight, go for the tiny icons and fonts. If i'm reading a large document at home, I put it in front of my face without glasses and use true vga. web browsing is done always with true vga. But if i'm recording golf score the icon in qvga works better for me. In summary, I use both, with the mode toggle program from Mark Vale.
after extensive evaluation, i've found the best soft keyboard - the tengo keyboard. It supports both qvga and vga mode.
Very briefly, you may think of it as a qwert keyboard which does not expect you to be a sharp shooter. you can type in exactly the same way as the default keyboard, but if you miss-type it will stillgive you the word you want.
Check it out at www.free.tengo.net. They have a free version for personal use. I'm using it with mvrtruevga and you can even type with your finger without the stylus fast speed!
There is very very very very low learning curve.
eaglesteve said:
ha ha.. how shall I put it? Lets just say that i'm still using both modes depending in situation. I hve quite bad eyesight so I can't see some icons and fonts.
If u hve 20/20 eyesight, go for the tiny icons and fonts. If i'm reading a large document at home, I put it in front of my face without glasses and use true vga. web browsing is done always with true vga. But if i'm recording golf score the icon in qvga works better for me. In summary, I use both, with the mode toggle program from Mark Vale.
after extensive evaluation, i've found the best soft keyboard - the tengo keyboard. It supports both qvga and vga mode.
Very briefly, you may think of it as a qwert keyboard which does not expect you to be a sharp shooter. you can type in exactly the same way as the default keyboard, but if you miss-type it will stillgive you the word you want.
Check it out at www.free.tengo.net. They have a free version for personal use. I'm using it with mvrtruevga and you can even type with your finger without the stylus fast speed!
There is very very very very low learning curve.
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How would you get your Athena to show QVGA?
QVGA & VGA....
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How would you get your Athena to show QVGA?
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The Athenas true resolution is QVGA 320x240 stretched to 640x480. This is why everything looks the same (sizewise) on a smaller QVGA device like say the HTC Hermes or HTC Wizrd.
It's not until you use a 3rd party application that you get the True VGA dimensions on your 'so called' VGA device and you get to appreciate all the screen real-estate (if you're the type to have lots of info on your screen, you'll soon see the benefits).
Personally I'm happy now with the Athena's default resolution with WA3 giving me 15 shortcut icons in the bottom system tray.
It's about choice. With a VGA device you have these options, but with smaller QVGA devices, icons would be too small to be useful if one applied the TrueVGA software to it (that's if the app would even work on a small QVGA PPC).
Hope that helps a bit.
i want to increase the softkey size in VGA mode so i can push the buttuns with my fingers easier is this possible ?
I feel the same about this. In many applications, the buttons are just too small in VGA mode. Would be nice if there is a way to bring it back to the size used in QVGA.
But, wait, why don't we simply toggle back to QVGA mode? The internet browser, which is VGA aware, could display exactly the same amount of data (choose small font in QVGA = choose large font in VGA). Same goes for excel and word as both of these applications are already VGA aware. In that way, the taskbar and menu buttons could remain big, which is my preferred size for them. Most of the other applications (phone, games, settings, activesync, calculator, camera, music players, pocket mechanics, etc simply looks way way better in QVGA, as the buttons and fonts look more proportionate and undistorted.
The only place not VGA aware, and would be nice if it is, is the today desktop and when you start program, or go to the setting screen. Not enough icons could appear on the screen without scrolling. Another one if the file explorer. Then there is the indexes of documents before getting into excel and word (would be nice if at that point we could already have zoom features). These are the places that I like true VGA to kick in.
Is there a way to toggle between VGA and nonVGA without a reset? If we can toggle that like the screen orientation, it would be real nice.
well a lot of prorgrams arent VGA aware... like text messaging outlook email etc. or atleast it doesnt seem to be... and as far as the internet explorer goes you may downsize the font but resolution still plays an important part
anyways i looked around in the registry and i couldnt find any settings anyone have any insight?
boinger66 said:
well a lot of prorgrams arent VGA aware... like text messaging outlook email etc. or atleast it doesnt seem to be... and as far as the internet explorer goes you may downsize the font but resolution still plays an important part
anyways i looked around in the registry and i couldnt find any settings anyone have any insight?
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the pie in wm6 has a hi-res mode.
so wait for wm6
i would love to have WM6 but as its not available
was just asking that is there a possible way to increase softkey size
shouldnt be too hard to do ?
boinger66 said:
i would love to have WM6 but as its not available
was just asking that is there a possible way to increase softkey size
shouldnt be too hard to do ?
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Sorry mate not as far as I know either.
VJToggleToday II can alter the size of the Today screen softkeys.
It could probably be hacked up to change any windows' softkeys, but I haven't thought about that yet, it's an inelegant solution.
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hmm how would you go about this ?
Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
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or this cant happen
suggestions...
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Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
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- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
- All black VGA theme. Similar to the default WM6 theme but all black.
- If possible, maybe an updated version of Pirazu so we can control a mouse cursor with the joystick?
- Alternative to BlueMouse so we can use a BT mouse cursor on the device. BlueMouse is nice but it costs.
Make it work like "Touch" may be the looks....
vueFlo for everything.
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vueFlo for everything.
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Yes...how did I forget this. For sure trying to tie the vueFlo into other apps and possibly games, etc.
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- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
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For me, these first five would be a darn good start.
- With #1 - Usable dialer in TrueVGA would be #1 on my list.
Couple more (may already be fixed in WM6, but have yet to plunge):
- WiFi On/Off is flaky unless you actually go into the Comm Manager (e.g., PhoneAlarm and other programs are not effective)
- I still have problems doing multiple mappings to Win and OK buttons. AEBPlus does this kinda, but then other buttons get mucked up. Given few number of buttons, this is really limiting.
Wish list:
- USB-powered Beer Tap. I know the low-power port might be an issue, but I'm sure this should be doable. Integration with MS VC would also be great, "Computer, pour beer." (All I can say is, it's been a long day!)
Actually I should have just put mapping of the vueFlo API. That should open up the rest of the developers to building cool widgets also.
VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
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VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
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That would be cool! I'm in favour!
i think rotate screen would a great feature when you see a photo .
widcomm bluetooth stack =) for dun
also a way to use another windows phone as a bt headset like the touch (if possible)
Solid & Fast ROM compatible with previous backups
Damn guys...you're not asking for much are you...hehe. Actually I quite like the sound of the all Black VGA ROM with Touch like interface.
But hey, I'll settle for a an all black super reliable and damn fast ROM in vanilla favour.
You guys have made some great suggestions, that I can't argue with. All I can say..is I'd love a ROM that I can use my Spb Backup files with...without corrupting any software, so when you release version 0.1, 0.2 etc...it will still be compatible with my backup files, making the switching of ROM's a quick thing to do.
I hate my phone being out of action. and having to re-install everything again.
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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why not just make vueflo toggle ?
c0mput0r said:
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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i think i can fix the larger text part...
here try this
WARNING...THIS IS NOT REVERSIBLE....NOT WITHOUT CHANGING SOME REG. ENTRIES... AT LEAST (and i don't know which one's need to change!!)
works well with se VGA too esp. if you have fading eyesight!!!
How about an icon on the task bar that rotates screen.
Also, when using the device in QVGA mode, smaller icons on today screen, start/program screen, start/setting screens.
When in VGA mode, but running a QVGA program , show a matching size bigger soft key buttons.
Show connection icons (H, 3G, G) correctly when in true vga mode.
Used it alot on my x7510, it was real treat, it changed the my prospective about the Device, and it turned the bulky Mobile phone into a mere-laptop.
When are we going to see a version for our HD?
Any News?
Thanks to All...
I suspect that Advanced Config and TweakHD applications provide most of what you are looking for... you can change various menu and scrollbar and icon sizes/spacing and most applications allow you to change font sizes... with my old eyes I'm typically trying to make things bigger... if RealVGA is doing something different by just changing the default dpi then my appologies.
Hi all,
I'm not sure what its called, but you know the context menus that come up basically whenever you hold your pointer over something for a while? It annoys me with the size they are in wm6.5. I love the speed of wm6.5 (tried both xplode's r7 (about to install 7.1...) and swampy's rls) but it really annoys me that they've made everything so big. Seems to take twice as long to do simple things now because now you have to scroll down menus to find what you're looking for. Is there anyway to bring this back to the good old "classic" sizes? I can't seem to find an option anywhere... and I realise loading a skinning app is just going to slow the OS down making the whole upgrade to 6.5 kinda pointless.
Also, does anyone know a way to speed up the actual time taken to register a tap and hold command? So that we don't have to spend as long to bring up the context menus?
Thanks in advance~
-kdp
that's a lot of questions. let me start with saying that i can not guarantee you, that the reg tweaks work. i found them for different devices and checked both my devices and didn't have the reg keys in there. so i don't knoiw if it helps you. Maybe, if i find out more, i'll post it later:
1. The size of the context and softkey menus:
a. the easiest way to influence the size and look of those menus would be, installing another theme. not just the color will change, but also the entire looks, so if you have a .tsk theme, copy it to the device and activate it, you will see it changed.
b. regitry tweak:
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\
there should be two dword values that you can change to whatever you like.
ht=height is default set to 1000
wt=width is default set to 700
2. a skinning app is gonna slow down the os
- true, with wm6.5 there is really no need for anything else to make the graphics any nicer
3. tap and hold time:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay
right-click, select properties, and enter a value from zero to 999 milliseconds
if that value, does not exist, create it (string value)
if those values didn't work, you should try out advanced config, which can be downloaded here: http://www.pocketpc.ch/news/42529-freeware-advanced-config-3-0-a.html
there you have more than 200 tweaks for the os and don't need to search the registry for any values.
first off, a big thank you for the speediness of your reply.
i tried out the other tsk files i have... but unfortunately i don't have any older ones from wm5/6, only the newer 6.5 ones. they didn't seem to make much difference in size of anything... only the actual colour/font schemes. if you have any older tsk files that you wouldn't mind uploading, that'd be much appreciated as something to try.
the softkeys aren't so much an issue - i've got wisbar to disable them (yes yes, i know wisbar is a skinning app... but i prefer a nice cascading start menu to something i need to fumble through to find stuff any day) - its more the context menus that are annoying me.
the registry edit is interesting. changing the height and width actually also changes the zoom on the font size... i'm not sure how this is being calculated, but the font is clearly getting smaller the smaller you set the dimensions. it seems like its taking a predefined box with the text designed to take up a predefined percentage of it and then letting you put in the dimensions of the box... basically so that no matter what numbers you plug in, you'll always have the rather annoying amount of space being wasted between items in the context menus. though all that said and done, 750 for height and 350 for width are far more workable than the previous settings. more than legible too imo~
the tap and hold time tweak worked wonderfully
thanks again~
Tap and Hold time delay Setting
I found your post ref to Tap and Hold delays. I tried this Tap and Hold setting you said worked on your phone (see below) I tried it as shown below on a HTC wm 6.5 HTC pure(diamond2), and did not see a change, were you able to shorten the delay? Is that done with a String? or Dword?
3. tap and hold time:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay
right-click, select properties, and enter a value from zero to 999 milliseconds
if that value, does not exist, create it (string value).
I have spent hours searching the registry for a solution
it was a dword iirc... tbh, this hasn't been so much of an issue for me with the newer releases so i haven't bothered so much.
koi_desi_pagal said:
first off, a big thank you for the speediness of your reply.
i tried out the other tsk files i have... but unfortunately i don't have any older ones from wm5/6, only the newer 6.5 ones. they didn't seem to make much difference in size of anything... only the actual colour/font schemes. if you have any older tsk files that you wouldn't mind uploading, that'd be much appreciated as something to try.
the softkeys aren't so much an issue - i've got wisbar to disable them (yes yes, i know wisbar is a skinning app... but i prefer a nice cascading start menu to something i need to fumble through to find stuff any day) - its more the context menus that are annoying me.
the registry edit is interesting. changing the height and width actually also changes the zoom on the font size... i'm not sure how this is being calculated, but the font is clearly getting smaller the smaller you set the dimensions. it seems like its taking a predefined box with the text designed to take up a predefined percentage of it and then letting you put in the dimensions of the box... basically so that no matter what numbers you plug in, you'll always have the rather annoying amount of space being wasted between items in the context menus. though all that said and done, 750 for height and 350 for width are far more workable than the previous settings. more than legible too imo~
the tap and hold time tweak worked wonderfully
thanks again~
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If you still need themes for wm6.1, try http://www.wm6themes.com/
I use one from that site on my BA, but since i don't have wm6.5 installed right now, i can't tell you whether it'll help in your situation or not.