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why are movies so crap ?

I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?

spacecat said:
I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
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Get tcpmp downloaded.......if that doesnt improve the playback it might be the same reason why the hermes was crap at video playback.....the OS sucks!
the hermes now plays videos quite nicely on WM6.....are you still on WM5?

no I am on wm6
I read another thread and am trying some different settings so hopefully it will mprove
still for such a pricey device it should work out of the box

it is most likely the conversion software you r using or the format that its in. i use spb mobile dvd 1.2 and i convert it into wmv so i can use wmp10 and not TCPMP. if you want to try a "TRIAL " copy i can send it to you, just drop me a line.
[email protected]

irus said:
it is most likely the conversion software you r using or the format that its in. i use spb mobile dvd 1.2 and i convert it into wmv so i can use wmp10 and not TCPMP. if you want to try a "TRIAL " copy i can send it to you, just drop me a line.
[email protected]
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email has been sent

err its ok i seem to have found the TRIAL copy

nice video here i use tcmp and select the video driver ATI

run a few tests and its better but cant touch PSP AVC movies for quality

spacecat said:
I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
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Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.

I'm still on WM5 and tge movie quality is absolutely sensational. On the other hand, it is crap on both of my two PSPs! I don't bother using my PSPs. I think it is potentially possible to have quality video if I get the settings right in PSP, just like you can have quality video on thus device if your setting is right.

Be careful with the ATI fix cab. I just installed it on the Athena and now my device can not boot pass the second splashscreen

mackaby007 said:
Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
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you said you did two test in 640x368 what software did you use. thanks

mackaby007 said:
Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
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im gonna look into it as im sure this can be improved but why does it struggle so much at 25 fps
on my psp i cn get 29.97 fps and razor sharp definition using AVC or PMPMOD with no dropped frames at all. Everyone i have ever shown my psp movies to are blown away by the picture quality. the Athena movies look grainy and pixellated in comparison
Im sure the Athena can do more but its a pain finding out

spacecat said:
im gonna look into it as im sure this can be improved but why does it struggle so much at 25 fps
on my psp i cn get 29.97 fps and razor sharp definition using AVC or PMPMOD with no dropped frames at all. Everyone i have ever shown my psp movies to are blown away by the picture quality. the Athena movies look grainy and pixellated in comparison
Im sure the Athena can do more but its a pain finding out
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The PSP was designed for multimedia exclusively. every last detail in this respect has been thought through. The Ameo serves a multitude of purposes and utilizes thirdparty software for a great deal of applications. With a few tweaks it works a treat, but its not the same thing. The PSP is an out of the box video and gaming solution and isnt really comparable. Try browsing effectively, typing a word document or sending a text or making a call on your PSP - that would impress your mates!

leoni1980 said:
The PSP was designed for multimedia exclusively. every last detail in this respect has been thought through. The Ameo serves a multitude of purposes and utilizes thirdparty software for a great deal of applications. With a few tweaks it works a treat, but its not the same thing. The PSP is an out of the box video and gaming solution and isnt really comparable. Try browsing effectively, typing a word document or sending a text or making a call on your PSP - that would impress your mates!
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I am not denying what you are saying but I would have thought that a brand new top of the range device costing 700 pounds woud be able to out perform a 2 year old device that you can now pick up for 100 pounds.
I am very happy with most aspects of my Athena its a great device for many things but for movies its quite poor.
I did a conversion in spb dvd at 640x336 as recommended but it was
still poor. The only one that has looked comparable was a 640x480
conversion at 25fps. it looked good but kept skipping frames.
also if you stopped it the player stopped working .TCPMP and CORE
if anyone has a definitive programme and settings for making near dvd quality movies without skipping I would be very interested to hear

spacecat said:
I am not denying what you are saying but I would have thought that a brand new top of the range device costing 700 pounds woud be able to out perform a 2 year old device that you can now pick up for 100 pounds.
I am very happy with most aspects of my Athena its a great device for many things but for movies its quite poor.
I did a conversion in spb dvd at 640x336 as recommended but it was
still poor. The only one that has looked comparable was a 640x480
conversion at 25fps. it looked good but kept skipping frames.
also if you stopped it the player stopped working .TCPMP and CORE
if anyone has a definitive programme and settings for making near dvd quality movies without skipping I would be very interested to hear
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I agree with you to a degree, although the Ameo is tied to the fact that it uses a generic OS (which automatically leaves it open to performance issue). The PSP on the other hand has an OS specifically designed for it.
I find that since i installed the HTC 001 rom i dont have any playback problems at all. I always select ATI Imageon rather than ATI imageon decoder, and also choose microdrive mode. it works for me

I just tried your settings , I was playing from the memory card
used the microdrive and the ati imageon MUCH MUCH better
no skipping . this was with a 640x336 clip .
I will see what a full 640x480 at 25fps can do tonite
cheers

here is what i use:
Player: TCPMP 0.81 with all plugins
Driver: ATi Imageon
Storage: Microdrive
Bitrate: 600kbps (benchmarked at 625, so 600 is safe )
Framerate: 25fps
Encoder: Divx 6.1
Quality: Insane
Audio: AC3, lowest bitrate etc
works a charm

Midget_1990 said:
here is what i use:
Player: TCPMP 0.81 with all plugins
Driver: ATi Imageon
Storage: Microdrive
Bitrate: 600kbps (benchmarked at 625, so 600 is safe )
Framerate: 25fps
Encoder: Divx 6.1
Quality: Insane
Audio: AC3, lowest bitrate etc
works a charm
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what prog do u use to encode the movies?

spacecat said:
what prog do u use to encode the movies?
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WinAVI, email me for a 'trial'

X1 can playback video of "H.264 30fps 2Mbps @ VGA"?

from Sony Ericsson Developer World
https://developer.sonyericsson.com/device/loadDevice.do?id=c0cd39f0-42ff-4662-be20-1a57657faa4e
It's great for a PPC phone: H.264 30fps 2Mbps @ VGA!
Who can verify this with a mp4 file encoding with H.264 on X1's Windows Media Player (not TCPMP/CorePlayer)?
AVI files can't be supported by Windows Media Player. You can test them with TCPMP/CorePlayer.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/156736115/GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.mp4.zip
GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.mp4.zip
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.1.2Mbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.1.2Mbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.2Mbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.2Mbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.800kbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.800kbps_L.mp4
http://rapidshare.com/files/156739548/GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.mp4.zip
GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.mp4.zip
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.1.2Mbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.1.2Mbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.2Mbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.2Mbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.800kbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.800kbps_L.mp4
http://rapidshare.com/files/156737923/GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.avi.zip
GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.avi.zip
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.24fps.1.2Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.24fps.1Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.24fps.600Kbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.24fps.800Kbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.30fps.1.2Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.30fps.1Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.30fps.600Kbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.30fps.800Kbps.avi
http://rapidshare.com/files/156805403/GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.mp4.zip
GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.mp4.zip
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.24fps.1.2Mbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.24fps.1.2Mbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.24fps.800kbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.24fps.800kbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.30fps.1.2Mbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.30fps.1.2Mbps_L.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.30fps.800kbps_H.mp4
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.30fps.800kbps_L.mp4
http://rapidshare.com/files/156740918/GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.avi.zip
GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.avi.zip
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.24fps.1.2Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.24fps.1Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.24fps.600Kbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.24fps.800Kbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.30fps.1.2Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.30fps.1Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.30fps.600Kbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.30fps.800Kbps.avi
Note:
mp4 files are encoded with winmenc-0.70.
param for H (H.264 main profile with B frame):Xvc=level_idc=3:bframes=3:frameref=2:nopsnr:nossim
param for L (H.264 baseline):Xvc=level_idc=13:bframes=0:frameref=2:nopsnr:nossim:nocabac
avi files are encoded with WisMencoder_2.1.1.0

I'm very interested in this too. Anybody care to test?

find me a video and im happy to try!

Hmzzzz. Hancock what comes on the sd card??

Naffets said:
find me a video and im happy to try!
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Dear Naffets, I've uploaded some testing video files. Hope for your result.

at work at the moment, will try afterwards

Ok, testin right now. First zip tested, results:
Test 1. GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.mp4.zip
Only GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.800kbps_L.mp4 was working at 100% speed with build in Windows Media Player. Versions of movies with H on the end working only with sound (no video). TCPMP not working on X1, only modifided version by eoc for GoForce chip is starting normal but won't play h264 files.
Test 2. GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.mp4.zip
GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.800kbps_L.mp4 file was working almost ok, only sometimes stops for a second. Rest files was lagging a lot, all tested with WMP. TCPMP not match h264 so not tested.
Test 3. GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.avi.zip
Files not working with WMP and TCPMP.
Test 4. GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.avi.zip
Files not working with WMP and TCPMP.

TCPMP and WM won't get you desireable results on the X1, mainly since WMP doesnt support xvid and other codecs and WMP is a weak video player. Your gonna want to use Coreplayer to really see a difference most likely as its much more enhanced then TCPMP (former project name) and WMP. At least I'm pretty sure that'll be the case with more recent devices. Then again TCPMP was obtimized back then for the ATI chip so who knows.
@ell82: Have you tried using SE internal video player instead? Thats what most users used to play the bond trailer shown online.
I tried watching the 800x448 trailer on my touch pro and it opened just fine, ofcourse the lower bit rates played a bit better around 75-80% but the the higher rates made my device cry lol.

Results with SE player which is on Panels are exactly the same.

Many thanks for your testing!
ell82 said:
Ok, testin right now. First zip tested, results:
Test 1. GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.mp4.zip
Only GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.24fps.800kbps_L.mp4 was working at 100% speed with build in Windows Media Player. Versions of movies with H on the end working only with sound (no video). TCPMP not working on X1, only modifided version by eoc for GoForce chip is starting normal but won't play h264 files.
Test 2. GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.mp4.zip
GTA4_Trailer_640-480.H264.30fps.800kbps_L.mp4 file was working almost ok, only sometimes stops for a second. Rest files was lagging a lot, all tested with WMP. TCPMP not match h264 so not tested.
Test 3. GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.avi.zip
Files not working with WMP and TCPMP.
Test 4. GTA4_Trailer_800-448.Xvid.avi.zip
Files not working with WMP and TCPMP.
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I uploaded a new zip "GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.mp4.zip".
http://rapidshare.com/files/156805403/GTA4_Trailer_800-448.H264.mp4.zip
800*448 is the best 16:9 resolution for X1's WVGA screen.
Could you test it, especial the four mp4 files of 800kbps?

Stuttering at 800kbps/30fps?
2mbit/s @ 30fps fluidly?, ......rigggggght.
GOOD JOB S.E. !
And btw, afaik Coreplayer does not care one bit about the Imageon sitting there in the corner of the chipset. So 2mbit is just plain crazytalk if you'd ask me.

SomeoneSimple said:
Stuttering at 800kbps/30fps?
2mbit/s @ 30fps fluidly?, ......rigggggght.
GOOD JOB S.E. !
And btw, afaik Coreplayer does not care one bit about the Imageon sitting there in the corner of the chipset. So 2mbit is just plain crazytalk if you'd ask me.
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But Coreplayer allows users to choose how to play videos using which video mode on the system, for instance you can choose DirectDraw, Imageon Driver, Framebuffer, and etc. Each with plays with its own capabilities so it does in fact make a difference. the Tytn was a perfect example that had horrible playback on wmp until coreplayer came in and utilized the Imageon chip allowing a huge difference in video playback. Sooooo i'm pretty sure it does care. You just have to choose that mode under preferences.

Anyone willing to test these videos with the different options in coreplayer?

pleaaaase, someone have to test this!!! I need this information very, very much, its the main point for me buying an Experia..!! I don't want to convert movies anymore, so please tell me!
Greez, cad^^

cadenza said:
pleaaaase, someone have to test this!!! I need this information very, very much, its the main point for me buying an Experia..!! I don't want to convert movies anymore, so please tell me!
Greez, cad^^
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2nd you! .. I would really like to know as well since I want a device where I dont have to convert.

cadenza said:
pleaaaase, someone have to test this!!! I need this information very, very much, its the main point for me buying an Experia..!! I don't want to convert movies anymore, so please tell me!
Greez, cad^^
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Most video's from the internet (P2P XviD's) have bitrates around 800kb/s @ 720x416 @ 24fps. Even without the "enhanced [email protected] hardware acceleration" the MSM720*A chipset will do just fine within Coreplayer.
No worries there.
[edit] Oh, and my bad for the misunderstanding of the advanced options of Coreplayer. Though, 2Mbit still seems pretty far-fetched in my opinion.

Yes, but I have many videos in very good quality with rates about 1.3-1.5 Mbps. Of course I don't need 2Mbps, but at least I want 1.5Mbps fluid. I hooooope...... Greez^^

SomeoneSimple said:
Most video's from the internet (P2P XviD's) have bitrates around 800kb/s @ 720x416 @ 24fps. Even without the "enhanced [email protected] hardware acceleration" the MSM720*A chipset will do just fine within Coreplayer.
No worries there.
[edit] Oh, and my bad for the misunderstanding of the advanced options of Coreplayer. Though, 2Mbit still seems pretty far-fetched in my opinion.
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I kinda agree with you, 2mbit seems kinda high to handle right off the bat. Im assuming at most around 1.2 in reality. Hopefully mine comes in asap but im hating this wait game for it >_<

ahyi said:
from Sony Ericsson Developer World
http://rapidshare.com/files/156737923/GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.avi.zip
GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.avi.zip
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.24fps.1.2Mbps.avi
　　GTA4_Trailer_640-480.Xvid.24fps.1Mbps.avi
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Anyone managed to test this yet in CorePlayer? ))))))

FunkyMike said:
Anyone managed to test this yet in CorePlayer? ))))))
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Tomorrow my phone turns up, assuming the Core team don't take weeks and allow me to get a new serial for my new phone, I have an 8gb micro SD card full of 350mb TV shows that I want to test. Will report back as soon as I can get CorePlayer on the phone.

Playing divx on this phone

I'm loving this phone, but I'm struggling with one thing; I can't find a way to play "normal" divx (avi) files with i.e. CorePlayer (1.2.6), on a normal quality. It just skips a few frames now and then.
Is this just me (am I missing a X1 specific option), or are we waiting for some driver magic from the guys at Coreplayer?

use the standalone divxplayer

That plays even slower than Coreplayer

I also found the offical divx player has terrible sound quality as well as its poor framerate.
I am puzzled at the people who claim the X1 plays DivX fine. To me, anything less than 24fps is far from fine and it seems to struggle to handle 15fps.

Alex Atkin UK said:
I also found the offical divx player has terrible sound quality as well as its poor framerate.
I am puzzled at the people who claim the X1 plays DivX fine. To me, anything less than 24fps is far from fine and it seems to struggle to handle 15fps.
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ive got the x1i and coreplayer 1.2.5 and it plays all divx perfectly, nothing skipped and nothing bad , maybe you guys installed something memoryhungry?
other members states that KinomaPlayer is the best player, who knows, try it to rate it, i don't know how good it is since the coreplayer is working great.
the coreplayer 1.3.0 is out, but dont know the news in it though

smaberg said:
ive got the x1i and coreplayer 1.2.5 and it plays all divx perfectly, nothing skipped and nothing bad , maybe you guys installed something memoryhungry?
other members states that KinomaPlayer is the best player, who knows, try it to rate it, i don't know how good it is since the coreplayer is working great.
the coreplayer 1.3.0 is out, but dont know the news in it though
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Coreplayer 1.3.0 doesn't perform much better than 1.2.5 on x1 I can play easly play mp4 movies 400x240 800 constant bitrate at 25fps without dropped frames, DivX movies 320x240 32x240, but the quality of mp4 is much better...
Up till now i could play the DivX 640x480 without any problems only on samung i780 and Dell x51v (720x...)

Core Video Player

Hewy peeps, ive got a core player and was wonder hwo to get a seamless picture when i play an AVI movie.. something like tango an cash or somthing.. it get pixelated in fast action screens.. is Divx any better or does it to the same thing

Tango and Cash? That's so random, lol.
The biggest issue is that Coreplayer does not support the hardware video acceleration afforded by the TP2, and Core has still not addressed this issue.
There are different ways to attack the issue. The best results will probably come from re-encoding your video to a resolution, bitrate, etc. that is more friendly to the TP2. The resolution of your videos is probably simply too much for the phone to handle. But personally, I can't be bothered to re-encode every video I want to watch on my phone. I like being able to watch the same file on my desktop and mobile device.
I've gotten Coreplayer to be somewhat tolerable by tweaking the settings. It seems that lots of people like the QTv video output (under Menu>Tools>Preferences>Video). It runs at a decent frame rate, but has what appears like "tearing", where it looks like one part of the screen is not in sync with the rest. This may or may not be what you call "pixelation", I'm not sure.
To me, the GDI output mode looks better, but seems to slow down the frame rate. I've been able to mitigate that somewhat by playing around with the buffer (also under Menu>Tools>Preferences). The framerate is not great, and once in a while the picture will freeze for a second or 2. But to me, its watchable overall.

c0nv1ct77 said:
Hewy peeps, ive got a core player and was wonder hwo to get a seamless picture when i play an AVI movie.. something like tango an cash or somthing.. it get pixelated in fast action screens.. is Divx any better or does it to the same thing
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I've honestly never used coreplayer for videos like that...I've always had great results using Divx (/Xvid/.avi) files with the player provided by the DivX group themselves...it's not the prettiest player, and it only does vids, but it's done very well even playing files that I haven't bothered to "mobile-optimize". I just rip my DVD's to a .avi file ~700MB in size, and just the amount of compression used to get it to that smaller size is enough for the DivX player to be able to handle it clearly and nearly stutter-free on my TP2.

Horrible Video Quality????

I just installed CorePlayer onto my device and video quality is extremely choppy, worse than my HTC Diamond. Do other people experience this problem, there is horrible pixelation and tearing in all videos. One reason which I chose this device over Android is b/c of Coreplayer but the video quality is horrible, I tried toggling the settings from GDI and directdraw, but nothing works, tried h.264 and xvid videos.
UPDATE:
Seems like turning off "Use blitting instead of overlay" solves the problem of intense pixelation and tearing, but video quality is still underwhelming when compared to stock player. But stock player does not play Xvid. When I encode directly from bluray VC-1 Source to 800x480, video quality is amazing on stock player.
Does anyone know what are the best settings for CorePlayer on the Expo, seems like there was a thread like this for the HD2 a while ago.

what version of core player are you using?

roteplex said:
I just installed CorePlayer onto my device and video quality is extremely choppy, worse than my HTC Diamond. Do other people experience this problem, there is horrible pixelation and tearing in all videos. One reason which I chose this device over Android is b/c of Coreplayer but the video quality is horrible, I tried toggling the settings from GDI and directdraw, but nothing works, tried h.264 and xvid videos.
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Seems like turning off "Use blitting instead of overlay" solves the problem of intense pixelation and tearing, but video quality is still underwhelming when compared to stock player. But stock player does not play Xvid. When I encode directly from bluray VC-1 Source to 800x480, video quality is amazing on stock player.
Does anyone know what are the best settings for CorePlayer on the Expo, seems like there was a thread like this for the HD2 a while ago.
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I convert withe nero 9 recode and use iphone settings and all the videos work great on wmp, even on the projector it still has an hd look, looks better than dvd versions.

roteplex said:
I just installed CorePlayer onto my device and video quality is extremely choppy, worse than my HTC Diamond. Do other people experience this problem, there is horrible pixelation and tearing in all videos. One reason which I chose this device over Android is b/c of Coreplayer but the video quality is horrible, I tried toggling the settings from GDI and directdraw, but nothing works, tried h.264 and xvid videos.
UPDATE:
Seems like turning off "Use blitting instead of overlay" solves the problem of intense pixelation and tearing, but video quality is still underwhelming when compared to stock player. But stock player does not play Xvid. When I encode directly from bluray VC-1 Source to 800x480, video quality is amazing on stock player.
Does anyone know what are the best settings for CorePlayer on the Expo, seems like there was a thread like this for the HD2 a while ago.
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Not sure what you are doing when converting the videos, but I have never had a single video do what you are describing. You have to look at more than just the resolution when recoding videos. You also have to look at the bit rate and codec used. I download and watch anime on my expo without having to recode the videos at all. I even played a 1.3gb video in 720p resolution with no lag or other video issues. I'm using the tcpmp-0.72 so it might be the version you're using too.
What are you using to encode your videos? If you have to recode them to work on the phone, try using PocketDivx. It works like a charm. The only reason I use that is to make the file size smaller so it's not taking up a lot of space on my storage card.

SPIDERTECH said:
I download and watch anime on my expo without having to recode the videos at all. I even played a 1.3gb video in 720p resolution with no lag or other video issues. I'm using the tcpmp-0.72 so it might be the version you're using too.
What are you using to encode your videos? If you have to recode them to work on the phone, try using PocketDivx. It works like a charm. The only reason I use that is to make the file size smaller so it's not taking up a lot of space on my storage card.
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Can you confirm that for me? Using TCPMP-0.72 you can watch 1280x720p videos without any dropped frames? Is this DivX/Xvid or MP4/h.264? What type of benchmark values are you getting?