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Hi,
I'm buying a windows mobile based phone, and so far every one I've looked at has some kind of design flaw.
I've already bought and returned a HTC Touch Diamond, because it had a nasty orange cloudy patch on 1 part of the screen.
What I've found so far is:
Touch Diamond: Orange clouds on screens, and random phones with bad contrast.
Xperia X1: Phone housings just crack of their own accord, not due to abuse.
Touch Diamond 2: Allows dust to get between the screen and the touch panel. (This is especially bad for me as I work in a very dusty environment, so the phone would end up full of dust pretty fast.)
I really like the look of the Touch HD, and after searching so far I haven't found reports of any flaws.
So does the Touch HD have any of the above flaws, or any flaws at all?
Or if anyone can name any WM based phones that have specs similar to the above I'd appreciate it, preferably VGA resolution or above.
Thanks in advance.
Well early on there were a lot of people complaining the paint wore away from the metal casing very quickly, although this never happened to me. I don't think there are too many common problems or at least none that I've had myself.
the paint chipping happened to me also, especially around the mini usb connector and also around the stylus area. The edges of the screen are also starting....
Small detail, not very annoying, but hurts when you paid like 500 euro for the device.
have had it for just over a month, I think the raised metal section on the back cover seems to scratch fairly easily (a bit like the X1's back cover, actually) - I would advise putting InvisibleShield or something similar *specifically* on that section.
back cover is a *whee* bit loose from me pulling it open and closed to hard / soft reset the HD, but otherwise of issues.
Wish it had a lanyard hole, though.
Buttons don't light up... How can you see the buttons in the dark? There are little ways of reflecting the screen light, but you know what I mean, buttons that don't light up?!?!?
Smallest ever notification light is on the power button, how you see this when you just put the phone down next to you I have no idea! Bit pointless if you as me.
Back case is a bit 'loose', but thats after constantly taking it off to flash my phone. You could just pad the back with a sticky pad on the inside of the back cover anyway which would stop it from happening.
Haven't had the issue with scratching the 'bulge' around the camera lens, its brushed metal anyway so can't say you'd notice that much.
Other than that, the phone is mint... Get one...
Well for scratches on the metal casing i don't know cause i always look to put it on something soft when i use on the table or other rough surfaces.I watched a video on youtube which showed how hard is to scratch the screen and the back have a look...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIPSK0P2EY
But just in case if i were you i would get one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH-CPWCPCco&NR=1
Well i've had mine 2 months, i keep it in the material sleeve it came with and have the screen protector on and as of yet its been fine.
The screen protector could do with being replaced as there are a few scuffs on it. Very good device though, i've been very pleased with mine. I've used iphones and was never impressed by them. The only flaw i would pick up would be windows mobile itself... I do get occasional error messages as per windows desktop but nothing major.
If you don't mind there being no hard keyboard then i'd say its a fantastic device.
It's really very annoying
buy this never happened to me.
6 months in...
For “new” potential users I’m 6 months into using my Touch HD.
Good points.
Screen – I use Pocket Informant with mini text in the month view and I can actually read enough of each entry for each day of the month to plan at a glance.
Any kind of detail to look at and the screen helps, it is both large enough and has good enough resolution to see detail. The Iphone looks bright and very crisp but doesn’t get down to the text and other detail the HD can.
Size – it’s a good compromise between screen size and pocketability. It’s also quite slim.
Battery life – I’m pleasantly surprised – it lasts a good 2-3 days and using stuff like CoPilot as a SatNav doesn’t pull it down too quickly.
Stability – a few resets but relatively few and usually because I’ve been a dumbo about doing something.
Multi tasking – recently used the phone on a Bluetooth headset, whilst also guiding the caller using the satnav and also looking up the company he wanted on the internet…all at the same time – stunned it all worked, I even managed to navigate between the various active “screens”.
The “What’s that” factor! – most average “joes” have got into Nokia, Motorola, Iphone etc but the Touch HD is a relative rarity – so if you want to be different!
Phone – signal reception and call quality beat my previous Motorola Rizr Z3 hands down. Also my boss has an Iphone and his call quality is awful. My Touch HD is almost like using a landline – certainly better than the last 3 dedicated phones I’ve had.
Pulling out the stylus wakes the device – great and so obvious!
The actual device itself is still as new! I do use a case though.
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Bad points.
I don’t use “touch flo” – many of the things I need to do mean using the stylus so for me its either all or nothing – TF doesn’t do for me!
Few hard key options – I used to have a one key push to bring up my diary (HP4700).
Useless LED “alarm” light on top – too small – too dim.
Camera – sunshine and its OK otherwise not great – no flash etc.
Battery life – it’s good but we are all waiting for more! Surely everyone wants at least a week without charging so you don’t lug a charger everywhere you go.
Stupidly small space of a couple of lines to answer text messages – duh! (I know there are fixes but I’m cautious about warranty and unrecoverable ****-ups!)
Installed…
CoPilot live 7. Works well (especially with the recent free screen resolution update to suit the HD)
Pocket Informant – best PIM/Diary/Contacts program I’ve ever used – I have a lot of diary stuff and quick access to good info.
Magic Button – useful although somewhat overtaken by changes in WM6x
Gsen – tweak for the G sensor options.
HD tweak – useful for customising a load of twiddly things.
Memaid – cleans up a bunch of iteme WM6x leaves woolly.
Pocket TV – useful for viewing various “movie” formats.
Resco File manager – MUCH better than the native WM6x file explorer – how can you live without it?
Accessories…Piel frama case – its ok but the leather around the screen blocks left margin stylus actions slightly (I’m left handed). Also it would be better using a magnetic closure instead of a popper, you can flip a mag closure shut with one hand movement but not the popper version. The front cover is a bit too soft so it would still allow something to crack the screen at a push. It also means if you receive a call by the time you’ve hauled the thing out of your pocket you’ve carried out some unknown screen clicks by gripping the case. Having said this I’ve tried two other cases and gone back to this one.
Thanks for all the replies.
If the paint chipping is the only problem I'll buy one, I'll be getting a case for it so hopefully that will protect it.
I'm moving from an iphone which I managed to keep in pristine condition, right up until I lost it
I tend to use the web browser quite a bit during the day, what kind of battery life could I expect out of the HD with say 2-3 hours browsing on 3g?
My first impression of the evo 4g when I played with it at Sprint. I was the first one in the store so I was first to use their demo unit. The unit they had was not tied down to a table and a chord. The rep was holding it in his pocket. Being first means no one has been able to mess it up(unless reps did) before I got a hold of it. These were my impression coming from the HD2.
1) The back feels more rounded. It feels more like I was holding the iphone 3gs where the back cover is curved. The hd2 feels more sharp after holding the evo4g.
2) The kick stand is spring-loaded! Awesome. I liked it. The whole kick stand felts very durable. It feels like it was made from good metal and not some cheap one. It didn’t wobble. It was sturdy! This is important! Awesome kickstand I thought! If I was able to break the kick stand and held it alone in my hand, I would assume it weighs quite a bit for its size.
3) Back battery cover feels cheap. It can flex like the same material as the incredible. In terms of material coating, its not like the hd2 where its rubberized and gives a good grip. It feels just like regular plastic. It’s not coated with anything special.
a. But unless you pop it out of the evo, you’d never be able to tell that it feels like cheap plastic. And when you have the back cover on the device, the whole device feels solid
b. The back cover doesn’t seem to be completely flushed with the seams. With the back cover on, I was still able to gently press the cover down to make it more flushed.
4) The circles around the capacitive buttons and the front speaker are SILVER. It’s not white like you see on a lot of pictures.
5) Light bleeds out of the bottom where the entire front glass meets the evo’s housing. There’s some sort of gap that should have been sealed. Very noticeable bleed especially since the light in the store wasn’t dimmed. Not deal breaking, but come on’ htc.
6) The front entire glass isn’t flushed at the top two corners near the word “hTc” and “sprint” -they sink down a bit unlike the glass near the capacitive buttons where it’s fully flushed. If I ran mu finger across the device, I could feel the evo’s housing when I hit the edge. Not deal breaking but just a matter of personal preference. Most people wouldn’t even know if I didn’t point this out. Im just very anal about every minor detail in terms of hardware build.
7) The volume rocker buttons are awesome. They don’t wiggle/jiggle or anything. They are rock solid, set in stone!
8) The power-on button near the top is also solid. It’s not fully flushed like some review websites say-making it hard to find and turn on. –psh. The button stuck out enough to find and power.
9) The entire screen looks bigger for some reason. Even though I had the hd2, and I placed it side by side, the evo screen just looks bigger than the hd2. It’s probably because WinMo 6.5 has black top/bottom bars. Using a GTX theme would made the hd2 screen look just as big. =)
10) Android 2.1 didn’t feel snappy at first, but then that’s only because sprint filled it up with bloat. Root that evo and flash a ROM. Woohoo! I can care less about the stock Rom because if I ever got it, xda is my solution for custom ROMS.
11) Front facing camera is actually decent in terms of quality. It’s actually pretty clear. Not astonishing, but good enough for day to day video conference! Review sites like pocketnow made it seem as though the front camera is choppy and pixilated. Its not.
12) Back speaker is loud and clear! It’s very nice! Better than the hd2.
13) The screen color production is better than the hd2. I noticed colors were a little more vivid and popped a little more on the evo 4g- not THAT noticeable though. However, I don’t think I would be able to tell the difference if I didn’t put it side by side with the hd2.
14) Weight of evo4g vs hd2 felt practically the same. You can’t really tell the difference. Well, I didn’t and I don’t use case coverings, etc, on my hd2 either.
15) Size, the evo did feel bigger in hand. And it is. But again, weight felt the same
16) Battery; 5 minutes before I was done using the phone, it was telling me to recharge the phone. The battery was around 23% when I first started to use it. Battery drain is very fast for some odd reason.
Those were my impression with the device. I played with the device for a good 20 minutes until I left the store. Am I sold to move over to the evo4g? yes if it was on GSM. No- since it’on CDMA and it’s also on sprint’s expensive network (personal financial issues). But in overall, there is no doubt this evo4g is a power house. I would recommend it even though I don’t own one.
Sprint.. expensive? BAHAHA!
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3) Back battery cover feels cheap. It can flex like the same material as the incredible. In terms of material coating, its not like the hd2 where its rubberized and gives a good grip. It feels just like regular plastic. It’s not coated with anything special.
b. The back cover doesn’t seem to be completely flushed with the seams. With the back cover on, I was still able to gently press the cover down to make it more flushed.
5) Light bleeds out of the bottom where the entire front glass meets the evo’s housing. There’s some sort of gap that should have been sealed. Very noticeable bleed especially since the light in the store wasn’t dimmed. Not deal breaking, but come on’ htc.
16) Battery; 5 minutes before I was done using the phone, it was telling me to recharge the phone. The battery was around 23% when I first started to use it. Battery drain is very fast for some odd reason.
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3. Yeah, that's a trade off that has to occur when you make the battery cover snap-on rather than the traditional 'slide into place' method. I noticed it with my Evo, but it's not like I notice it much anyway.
5. You can only see this light bleeding when you look at the phone directly from above. It hasn't interfered with my screen in any way so far.
16. That seems to be an issue with the phone when it's fresh out of the box. After you condition it a bit, the battery life improves dramatically.
lemonspeakers said:
My first impression of the evo 4g when I played with it at Sprint. I was the first one in the store so I was first to use their demo unit. The unit they had was not tied down to a table and a chord. The rep was holding it in his pocket. Being first means no one has been able to mess it up(unless reps did) before I got a hold of it. These were my impression coming from the HD2.
1) The back feels more rounded. It feels more like I was holding the iphone 3gs where the back cover is curved. The hd2 feels more sharp after holding the evo4g.
2) The kick stand is spring-loaded! Awesome. I liked it. The whole kick stand felts very durable. It feels like it was made from good metal and not some cheap one. It didn’t wobble. It was sturdy! This is important! Awesome kickstand I thought! If I was able to break the kick stand and held it alone in my hand, I would assume it weighs quite a bit for its size.
3) Back battery cover feels cheap. It can flex like the same material as the incredible. In terms of material coating, its not like the hd2 where its rubberized and gives a good grip. It feels just like regular plastic. It’s not coated with anything special.
a. But unless you pop it out of the evo, you’d never be able to tell that it feels like cheap plastic. And when you have the back cover on the device, the whole device feels solid
b. The back cover doesn’t seem to be completely flushed with the seams. With the back cover on, I was still able to gently press the cover down to make it more flushed.
4) The circles around the capacitive buttons and the front speaker are SILVER. It’s not white like you see on a lot of pictures.
5) Light bleeds out of the bottom where the entire front glass meets the evo’s housing. There’s some sort of gap that should have been sealed. Very noticeable bleed especially since the light in the store wasn’t dimmed. Not deal breaking, but come on’ htc.
6) The front entire glass isn’t flushed at the top two corners near the word “hTc” and “sprint” -they sink down a bit unlike the glass near the capacitive buttons where it’s fully flushed. If I ran mu finger across the device, I could feel the evo’s housing when I hit the edge. Not deal breaking but just a matter of personal preference. Most people wouldn’t even know if I didn’t point this out. Im just very anal about every minor detail in terms of hardware build.
7) The volume rocker buttons are awesome. They don’t wiggle/jiggle or anything. They are rock solid, set in stone!
8) The power-on button near the top is also solid. It’s not fully flushed like some review websites say-making it hard to find and turn on. –psh. The button stuck out enough to find and power.
9) The entire screen looks bigger for some reason. Even though I had the hd2, and I placed it side by side, the evo screen just looks bigger than the hd2. It’s probably because WinMo 6.5 has black top/bottom bars. Using a GTX theme would made the hd2 screen look just as big. =)
10) Android 2.1 didn’t feel snappy at first, but then that’s only because sprint filled it up with bloat. Root that evo and flash a ROM. Woohoo! I can care less about the stock Rom because if I ever got it, xda is my solution for custom ROMS.
11) Front facing camera is actually decent in terms of quality. It’s actually pretty clear. Not astonishing, but good enough for day to day video conference! Review sites like pocketnow made it seem as though the front camera is choppy and pixilated. Its not.
12) Back speaker is loud and clear! It’s very nice! Better than the hd2.
13) The screen color production is better than the hd2. I noticed colors were a little more vivid and popped a little more on the evo 4g- not THAT noticeable though. However, I don’t think I would be able to tell the difference if I didn’t put it side by side with the hd2.
14) Weight of evo4g vs hd2 felt practically the same. You can’t really tell the difference. Well, I didn’t and I don’t use case coverings, etc, on my hd2 either.
15) Size, the evo did feel bigger in hand. And it is. But again, weight felt the same
16) Battery; 5 minutes before I was done using the phone, it was telling me to recharge the phone. The battery was around 23% when I first started to use it. Battery drain is very fast for some odd reason.
Those were my impression with the device. I played with the device for a good 20 minutes until I left the store. Am I sold to move over to the evo4g? yes if it was on GSM. No- since it’on CDMA and it’s also on sprint’s expensive network (personal financial issues). But in overall, there is no doubt this evo4g is a power house. I would recommend it even though I don’t own one.
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I generally liked your impressions until i saw you said that sprint was expensive, which is totally ignorant, sprint is the cheapest network in america i believe that has damn good coverage.
Your impressions were mostly spot-on, VERY impressive for someone who has only played with the phone for 20 minutes. You werent kidding around when you said you are anal about build quality--in 20 minutes you were able to notice all of those little details that took me two days.
Now, the back cover is actually coated, and is soft to the touch. Its not pure plastic at all.
Also, how is Sprint expensive? I pay $67/month with unlimited everything AND handset insurance. I was paying $140 with AT&T for the same plan and had no insurance(iPhone).
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I generally liked your impressions until i saw you said that sprint was expensive, which is totally ignorant, sprint is the cheapest network in america i believe that has damn good coverage.
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I agree, sprint is very good on the wallet, especially with the any mobile any time stuff, and as for coverage, I love it!
I know there are plenty of threads about G2 hinge issues, but I'd like to know about your Desire-Z keyboard hinges now that it has shipped.
I've just received my second Desire-Z this morning and it's probably worse than the first one. If pick up the phone, absolutely horizontal, from a table just by holding the upper section, the keyboard just falls half-open. Surely it shouldn't be like this? Here's a quick youtube video I took of my first phone:
Just wondering if I've been really unlucky, or are they basically all like this? I really hope not...
Andre
Mine does exactly the same. I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm not very happy with it.
My other concern is that the screen wobbles back and forth when I have the phone closed if I tap on the left and right edges.
I think this is probably a design flaw rather than a specific device problem. You'll probably find they're all the same
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Cant quite tell what the angle is in the video.
If I pick up mine by just the top piece then it droops, but doesn't slide out.
If I hold it upside-down by the base it droops, but can't slide.
Whenever I pick up the phone though I hold it by the base, so in normal use it's perfectly fine.
I'm basically assuming that the spring should be just strong enough for the phone to hold itself together (i.e. without the keyboard dropping away at all) when it is gently lifted up from a flat surface. That's the benchmark I would want to see anyway, and neither of mine will do that.
I might take this up with HTC and see what their view on it is - I just hope they don't do an Apple and patronisingly say "you're holding it the wrong way".
Andre
I've just sent off an email to superEtrader asking for a refund as I'm not happy.
I hope they take it back without any hassle since their website says I can't return it if its been opened. Someone on here kindly pointed out the Distance Selling Regulations say I can open it and play with it (I have the PDF stored on my PC!), but I don't want to have that sort of hassle.
my phone has the same problem as the video.
Also, the screen slides down when im lying down, holding the phone by the keyboard.
My phone isnt quite a loose as in the video, but it does droop if I pick it up by the top section rather than the base & also if I am lying down and hold by keyboard it will start to shut... I kinda expected to have a loose hinge based on reviews that I had seen for G2 & at this point its only a very minor niggle, so I wont do any return until I find out there are Desire Zs out there that actually have a firm hinge.
On another note, I noticed yesterday that the black backing of the keyboard is a bit bubbly.. Im hoping that the backing wont start coming away down the road... but I guess only time will tell.
I found it hard to do what was shown on video, I never grabbed phone like this before. It never opened on its own even slightly. Also owned TP2 and never held it by the screen. I dont think people would actually ever hold it like that.
No offense to anyone, I just dont see any issues with my hinge. I know it opens when I hold it like on video or upside down, but If I havent read some posts, I would never try it.
This is just my personal opinion on the "hinges"
The design is for the way we hold and use our phones.. I feel for you bro, but noone holds their phone at the angle your showing this at..
I have had no problem at all yet with the everyday use of this beast)
JD
Honestly, at first it bothered, but really, it really starts to make sense for me now how it acts. If our hinge would be stronger, it'd be more difficult to open it and might have us actually break it.
Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position.
When I pick up my phone, I really don't pick it up by only one of the parts (screen/base). It's actually quite heavy at 180g and if I don't want to drop it, I rather pick up nicely and firmly.
So, really, after 4 days with my phone, the thing that bothers me more now isn't the screen, but the weight difference between my old Samsung Galaxy S (with gel back) and the Z.
Actually, funny anecdote, while playing Angry Birds, I actually opened the keyboard so I had a better grip on the phone.
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Honestly, at first it bothered, but really, it really starts to make sense for me now how it acts. If our hinge would be stronger, it'd be more difficult to open it and might have us actually break it.
Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position.
When I pick up my phone, I really don't pick it up by only one of the parts (screen/base). It's actually quite heavy at 180g and if I don't want to drop it, I rather pick up nicely and firmly.
So, really, after 4 days with my phone, the thing that bothers me more now isn't the screen, but the weight difference between my old Samsung Galaxy S (with gel back) and the Z.
Actually, funny anecdote, while playing Angry Birds, I actually opened the keyboard so I had a better grip on the phone.
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QUOTE:Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position:END QUOTE
I could not have put it better myself....
JD
I think I'll just keep mine until we get confirmation that better-designed Desire Zs have been produced. The replacement is from HTC and not my supplier, so I should be able to do it at any time during the next 2 years... right?
Mine is pretty solid - I even text in bed and it doesn't fall. I have opened the keyboard once or twice by accident, which is quite funny..
Desire Z on Bell Canada Hinge problem
I have already gone through two DZ's and both have the "weak" hinge. Thankfully mine does not do what is shown in the Video in post #1, thats definitely a defect in my opinion. Just to compare notes on a relative basis here is what mine does.
When the phone is closed I turn it sideways (landscape) lift it from the bottom and then press on the left and right edges with my thumbs. The screen snaps nicely into place. If I then grap the device by the top two corners of the screen and lift it straight up and hold it perfectly horizontally the keyboard drops down. However, if I lift it up at a slight angle the keyboard remains "attached" to the screen. It seems as though there is a magnet of some kind holding it in place.
I instinctively hold it with forefingers and thumb to type much as I do on my Motorola Milestone which slides straight up and down and has no "hinge".
As for lying on my back and typing in Bed if I just hold the bottom portion keyboard along then the screen drops down. HOWEVER that is an extremely awkward way to type for anyone I would imagine.
The question is, did HTC design it to work in this way knowing that people "instinctively" do these types of actions in this way?? I am not sure they conduct such a detailed ergonomic study. There are people that have no hinge issues at all, but unless they apply specific tests as I did here it would be difficult to know if they are experiencing similar problems. If they are doing what comes naturally and holding it as nature intended then they would not deem that there are any problems.
Just my two cents.
This is worse than the "Is my trackpad wobbling?!" threads on CrackBerry. It's supposed to be loose so you can open it with one finger, according to HTC. If you don't like it, take it back (you can definitely get a refund, since it's only been out like 4 days or whatever) and get a new phone. Seriously. You want a stiff slide, get a Milestone, then you have nothing to complain about.
Bought 2 today, they're (identically!) quite loose. I was really worried before buying that I'm gonna get the 'loose one' but to be honest it's not an issue as it's a very weird way to hold your phone and like others said you instinctively hold the device with your thumb and index fingers as that's where they end up when you open the phone. Furthermore, if opened and held vertically just by the bottom, the top part stays in place and only drops down at ~40 deg angle, so unless you text a lot in bed while holding the phone upside down and holding it just by the bottom bit, you won't have a problem. If I lift it up like in the video (it's actually quite an effort) the parts will separate.
Yeah, mine is the same, but dont know why people are making such a big fuss on it, why not for example make a big fuss on the speaker quality instead?
Yeah the speaker is ****, its the one thing that is crap with this phone...
Sent from my Desire Z Beast
Did you ever think choosing a phone would be like choosing a girlfriend. At least with the Desire Z you can test it out in the shop to see if its loose before getting it home and having a nasty surprise lol XD
I never knew I had a hinge problem until I watched the videos. Some people have way to much time on their hands.
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No, seriously. I've been wondering this for a while now.
I have big hands, so I almost never used my previous phone with one hand. I usually used the index finger of my other hand to touch everything. The only time this was kind of an issue is if I was eating, and I would often just use my little finger of my other hand since i was holding something.
So I have to admit, it blows my mind when someone sees all the pluses of the Note and their dealbreaker is 'can't use one hand easily? No sale'. What's that all about? I can kind of understand that people are just used to typing with one hand. (and someone to come out with a custom keyboard to fix that).
I can understand rejecting the Note because it doesn't fit in your pocket, or because it's too expensive. That's fine - expected even.
But rejecting the Note because you can't say, reach the notification bar with your thumb? What?
- Frank
P.S. This is often why I tell people it's a tablet, so they naturally expect to use two hands.
I don't have a frigging clue. I haven't used my phone with a single hand only since my Nokia 5800... People will say all kinds of weird stuff against things they're not used to.
Because it makes it harder for women to put their makeup on in the morning while texting and driving down the road.
In addition to the texting while driving, it makes it more difficult to browse for porn while jacking off, check your Facebook while flipping through channels with the TV remote, drunk dial while chugging booze, pick your nose while researching on wikipedia, and many other important things.
Ha ha, I actually can use it one handed just about as well as the other phones I've recently used, including the GSII, so no problem with the above activities. My favorite way to browse the web is to hold the phone in portrait orientation with one hand, between thumb and middle finger (thumb on bottom and middle finger on top) and use my index finger to scroll and click links. This works fine on the note; I'm not able to do this with larger tablets, and for this reason I don't use them much. I usually revert to two hands to type, but do so with any size phone, as I prefer Swype.
Because you hold your ciggie on your left hand?
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In addition to the texting while driving, it makes it more difficult to browse for porn while jacking off, check your Facebook while flipping through channels with the TV remote, drunk dial while chugging booze, pick your nose while researching on wikipedia, and many other important things.
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Lol! Jokes apart, I actually can use it single handedly. Only typing the leftmost column of alphabets can be slightly uncomfortable, albeit do-able...
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i can reach the notification bar with one finger
In terms of screen size, it's not THAT big
I'm not sure what is difficult to understand about the need for one-handed use, quite simply there at tines I need to use the phone and only have one hand free such as about ten minutes ago when walking the dog. That said I do find I can generally use the Note one-handed but it just needs slightly different positioning.
One handed use is a requirement for me as well, as the poster above me said, there are just to many times when I only have one hand to pull of a quick tid bit of information. If it was not important, I'd stick with the 7" form factor.
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P.S. This is often why I tell people it's a tablet, so they naturally expect to use two hands.
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Funny you should say that, we have an ipad2 and Ive never touched it since the note came. This is definitely a replacement for a tablet, as I have proved to myself...
The only thing better with the ipad2 is the smoothness, pinch to zoom especially.
Because one hand using is a thing of mobility.
In my opinion its not just to be able to reache the status bar with one hand its more then this. Sometimes youve only one hand free and the note doesnt feel safety in one hand, im tall (193) my hands are large but using it with one hand it always was uncomfortable...
I love the note for surfing but as a mobile device for every day its too big!
Since I've always used two hands for things like typing or browsing so, for me, the fact that I can hold the note in one hand and (forget about handwriting for now) hit the keyboard much more accurately and much faster with the S-Pen makes this phone that much more useful for me...
It´s kind of an odd question.
I too usually use the phone with both hands but sometimes its handy to have one hand free, so you can eat or hold a drink while you surf the web (or about any othe million things you can do with one hand).
I had a play with a demo one today. I could comfortably use it one handed. Though i apparently have big hands
It wouldnt be a deal breaker for me. But its certainly useful. Its generally the odd text, or a bit of browsing whilst eating a sandwich etc.
Walking the dog is an interesting example, hadn't thought of that one.
A pretty good reason came in another thread - so you can use it while standing on a bus/subway.
- Frank
Everybody says it's almost impossible to use the phone with one hand, so can there be a little app that shows the android on a portion of the screen, about 4" on the right side? Or at least the basic quick funtions, wich in my case are Call/Message/Camera?
Of course this would be acessed by a shortcut in the lockscreen on the right down side of the screen.
Also is there a camera app that shoots through sound trigger?
And another ideia for a case, in wich you would a cloth-rubber like feel, a rubber so you could have enough friction, and a cloth like so it would fold a little trough your fingers when you pull the back of the case one handed, thus giving a lot of grip.
Would be awesome, probably ain't gonna see this anyway.
Thoughts?
Kriggs said:
Everybody says it's almost impossible to use the phone with one hand, so can there be a little app that shows the android on a portion of the screen, about 4" on the right side? Or at least the basic quick funtions, wich in my case are Call/Message/Camera?
Of course this would be acessed by a shortcut in the lockscreen on the right down side of the screen.
Also is there a camera app that shoots through sound trigger?
And another ideia for a case, in wich you would a cloth-rubber like feel, a rubber so you could have enough friction, and a cloth like so it would fold a little trough your fingers when you pull the back of the case one handed, thus giving a lot of grip.
Would be awesome, probably ain't gonna see this anyway.
Thoughts?
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There's nothing to stop you putting phone/message/whatever icons on the left side of the phone. That's what I do. Putting the entire android screen on a shrunken portion of the phone totally defeats the purpose of the note.
You want a screen this big, you have to expect to sometimes need to use it two handed. If you don't want a screen this big since you require full time one handed use, then don't get the note. It's a very fair reason for not wanting the Note.
Cases with flaps, or stuff like the flygrip, or attaching a lanyard are all pretty useful attachments for using the phone one handed. The one handed keyboard helps too.
- Frank
I love the idea of a voice activated camera. I hate having to press that button, and my hands are quite large.
ChodTheWacko said:
You want a screen this big, you have to expect to sometimes need to use it two handed. If you don't want a screen this big since you require full time one handed use, then don't get the note. It's a very fair reason for not wanting the Note.
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It would be just for time to time, in my job I carry a clipboard all around, and can't afford to just drop it anywhere, I'm still on the transition stage on my way to go all digital. And while I'm walking around I need to make a phone call or just send an "OK" or another short message, in those case a small screen Note would be necessary, but after the message/call it would be fullscreen again. Just for quickies.
And thanks for the flygrip, will buy it when it becomes avaible on DX/Ebay.