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After upgrading from WM 2003SE I have not been able to use my BT stereo headsets. I have both a Motorola S9 and a Jensen WBT212. The music from audio manager or WMP will start but then it will become choppy as if the connection is going on and off every second. Didn't have this issue with WM 2003SE. When used as a handsfree headset there is no issue. I also noticed the elapsed time of the song in progress is also erratic. This happens to both media players. When the BT stereo headsets are not used both players play normally. Anyone else having this issue? Any ideas or resolution would be greatly appreciated.
Device : Siemens SX66(WM6)
ROM Version : 5.60.00 WWE
ROM Date : 03/02/05
Radio Version : 1.15.00
Protocol Version : 1337.45
I finally got the bluetooth headset to work by installing the Helmi BT CAB for WM5 I found in the WM% forum. It is kind of strange now that it seems l;ike there are two BT connection managers but I can now get the headsets to coneect properly and the media players seem to be working properly too.
skipping problem
szfjcr said:
I finally got the bluetooth headset to work by installing the Helmi BT CAB for WM5 I found in the WM% forum. It is kind of strange now that it seems l;ike there are two BT connection managers but I can now get the headsets to coneect properly and the media players seem to be working properly too.
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Hi I have that weird skipping problem with my HT 820 motorola stereo BT It's not really bad but it shouldn't skip I think. could you send my a link to that cab? any help appreciated.
Thanks Gyurma
BA WM5 Broadcom 1.7.1 Build 3400 Stack (Test) is the title of the thread.
which one?
thank you,but I found it,but there are several patches and stuff over there one of which (BTStack.zip) I do not know how to install which one did you use?
thanks again
Gyuri
Southwing SA505
I got my new BT headphones yesterday. Charged them all day. I did the pairing thing last night. They worked great. Fantastic. The audio was crisp and clear. I was able to answer the phone with them, and again over the phone the audio was great on both ends. But it's like that poem about the girl with the curl. When they're good, they're very, very good. But when they're bad, they're horrid.
I've spent the entire day fighting with the BT. It seems that I can use the headphones only right after I pair them to the device. If I shut them down or turn off BT, when I go to restart, I get the choppiness that's so bad you can't even understand what song is playing. Resetting doesn't fix it. If I uninstall the headphones, turn off BT, and then do a hard reset and reinstall the headphones, I can use them again and everything is perfect. Until I turn them off, and then it starts all over again.
What is causing this?
I know I could just install the Broadcom BT. In fact, I did today. Twice. The problem with that is that I can only get it to recognize the headphones as a high quality audio device, not a headset phone device as well. I can install it as both, but they don't play nice together when I do, and if I install it only as the high quality audio, I can't answer the phone with it. (And yest, I did install all the patches and addons I found throughout that thread.)
Also, the Broadcom audio quality isn't as good as what I'm getting with the MS. Almost like the difference between an mp3 encoded at 96kbps, rather than a better quality.
I've tried the A2DPAudioFix. No help there that I could find.
Am I missing something?
Is it really a choice between crappy audio quality and no phone headset functions and having to hard reset my device over and over?
Same exact problem
Just upgraded the radio today to 1.15 and rom to WM6 last week - Bluetooth stereo headphones work ok for phone but not for music. Please can someone posts links as to where I need to look for various cabs - I've tried searching the forum but am not having much luck. Just happened to stumble on this thread.
Michelle
Stereo bluetooth works now
Well - my dh is sick of me working on this - but I know how BT stereo headphones that work w/ audio and the phone.
I am not even sure what I did other than install every cab I found and I'm sorry I don't have links-
RestartRadio.exe
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
RestartRadio.exe
(still had problem w/ scratchy / stop / start)
then ran
ba_oem_audiogw.cab
and
BroadcomCorp_BTUpdatefor1.0.0.3500.cab
but I don't exactly the order of the last two - I am not even sure I ran the audiogw.cab - anyway, it was like magic - stereo sound minus static and skipping.
This is after flashing to wm6 and flashing the radio to 1.15 - and there was something else I tried - oh, I did change the registry to 64 from 128 I believe - the SD card entry.
Anyway, it's been a long day - now I'm off to figure out how to change the 72M B free in Program to give some to storage which only has 5.48 free.
Michelle
Mgrunk- Which SD card entry did you change? Could you kindly check to see what version of BT you are now on? Start/Settings/Connections/Bluetooth should get you to the version. I have mine working like I described earlier using the HELMI WM5 Broadcomm 1.7 cab, however still have periodic static and skipping. I am curious because my BT headsets worked well with WM2003SE and BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab. Thanks in advance for any info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329998&highlight=SDCARD+SDMemory_Class
is the link where I found it.
hklm/drivers/sdcard/clientdrivers/class/sdmemory_class is the entry and it was 128 and I changed it to 64 per another mesage - it did clear up the stuttering problem w/ AudioManager and WMP.
In regards to the version - now I have to BT icons on the Connections page - the About on the second icon says PE "Version 1.0.0 Build 3900"
But last night I deleted AudioManager and then had the horrible BT stereo headphone problems - I also noted while WMP was playing, it sucked the available program memory down to 5M - didn't matter what I started w/
I reinstalled AudioManager - no luck w/ BT, renistalled all the BT cabs
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900
BroadcomCorp_BTUpdatefor1.0.0.3500 - oops looks like that probably was unecessary
HTCHeadset_AddOn
ba_oem_audiogw
But, I have persistant problems - if the ppc turns off - when it comes back on, BT icon shows on, but there's no BT. I have to go into CommManager and uncheck handset and headphones, click save, go back and click them back on and click save and then start audiomanager up and play music. But, I found that even w/ that I had to repeat the whole uncheck the services and then recheck them - somehow it's different than turning BT off and then on (that didn't work at all)
*** hey this morning the BT stereo headphones worked fine w/ AudioManager - didn't have to turn anything on or off - once in a while there's a short pause in sound but otherwise it sounds fine.
*** for no reason, BT stereo headphones are back to non-functioning - tried soft reset, reinstall cabs, etc. - no decent sound out of them - of course they work great for BT phone. Any suggestions?
I was a programmer in my former life (before 8 kids) and I design websites, but I was totally frustrated w/ the BT issue - so I'm not being methodical and I didn't really find a definite thread that said do 1, 2, 3 - so I've thrown every cab I can find onto my system.
I'm sure this doesn't help - it's very scattered and unorganized.
Michelle
mgrunk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329998&highlight=SDCARD+SDMemory_Class
is the link where I found it.
hklm/drivers/sdcard/clientdrivers/class/sdmemory_class is the entry and it was 128 and I changed it to 64 per another mesage - it did clear up the stuttering problem w/ AudioManager and WMP.
In regards to the version - now I have to BT icons on the Connections page - the About on the second icon says PE "Version 1.0.0 Build 3900"
But last night I deleted AudioManager and then had the horrible BT stereo headphone problems - I also noted while WMP was playing, it sucked the available program memory down to 5M - didn't matter what I started w/
I reinstalled AudioManager - no luck w/ BT, renistalled all the BT cabs
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900
BroadcomCorp_BTUpdatefor1.0.0.3500 - oops looks like that probably was unecessary
HTCHeadset_AddOn
ba_oem_audiogw
But, I have persistant problems - if the ppc turns off - when it comes back on, BT icon shows on, but there's no BT. I have to go into CommManager and uncheck handset and headphones, click save, go back and click them back on and click save and then start audiomanager up and play music. But, I found that even w/ that I had to repeat the whole uncheck the services and then recheck them - somehow it's different than turning BT off and then on (that didn't work at all)
*** hey this morning the BT stereo headphones worked fine w/ AudioManager - didn't have to turn anything on or off - once in a while there's a short pause in sound but otherwise it sounds fine.
I was a programmer in my former life (before 8 kids) and I design websites, but I was totally frustrated w/ the BT issue - so I'm not being methodical and I didn't really find a definite thread that said do 1, 2, 3 - so I've thrown every cab I can find onto my system.
I'm sure this doesn't help - it's very scattered and unorganized.
Michelle
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Mgrunk. what Broadcom do you have installed and where to get it? In WM6.0 there isn't an "about"
meanwhile found the Helmi BT 1.7 but I am getting a insufficient driver memory available. I have to preform a soft-reset which I did but didn't help. Whats is the solution?
Give up
ok, it's back to not working - I'm going to return the stereo BT headphones and wait for a new answer - maybe it's the headphones.
But, in regards to the about screen - I had 2 BT icons on the Connection page and the 2nd one had an about page - I hard reset today and it's gone.
Michelle
Mgrunk- I hard reset a couple of days ago as well just trying to cleanup because having two BT connection managers was bothering me. I have gotten the MS stack to work better by doing the SD card registry edit you suggested and another one at HKLM\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\settings\bitpool and setting it to 25 then settling to 23. It was at 48 when I started. The lower the number slows down the data transmission rate and reduces the choppiness. The lower the lower the sound quality as well so you will need to adjust on your own. Start with 25 then work your way down. What headset were you using?
Well that worked sort of
I changed those 2 registery values - I had to take the bitrate back to 21 - the sound has really degraded - but the music plays - who knows if it will work tomorrow.
Oh, and I have a set of Spider BT stereo headphones - the people I've called said the sound is fine so the mike works ok and the sound is great for the phone.
They're behind the neck, over the ear as opposed to earbuds but I didn't want wires. The ones I really wanted were $129 - earbuds behind the neck.
Michelle
I've been able to keep my BT headphones working by deleting the entry and forcing them into pairing mode and re-pairing them whenever they get choppy. If I'm careful about how I shut them down and restart them (shut off music, wait until I hear the headphones stop transmitting sound, shut off headphones, shut down BT -> start music, start BT, start headphones) I can use them several times before I have to re-pair them.
But it still seems very weird to have to go through all this crap to use them. If I deviate from that shutdown and restart pattern, I have to re-pair them to get them working properly again. If I do a soft reset, I have to re-pair. It can't be the headphones. They work great with other BT applications.
They do work fantastic when they're working though.
a link from a different forum
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...-rom-only-read-1st-post-before-posting-7.html
so, now I'm off to convert some of my music to mp3 - and then I'm going to try some different players - AudioManager has the same issues w/ wma music as WM10 player - having the bit rate down to 21 really makes for some static in the music.
Update: didn't work - low rate mp3's w/ MortPlayer had same issue
yipppyy
i can fix it ... last night (Sleep on 02.30)
1 Flash WM6
2 disable BT
3 install WM6_SoundFix_.cab
4 install BroadCommPatch1.CAB
5 reset
6 check ... BT maybe cannot to open (i test with garmin mobile)
7 Uninstall BroadCommPatch1.CAB
8 install HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.CAB
9 Reset
10 .................. Fly ............
if complete .. display menu bt must change same me
All file work with me
download http://www.xbizdomain.com/puchong/pda/BGfixBT.rar
Good Luck
Oh no solution me not work !!!!
i can fix .... Streo headset ... but can't use small talk function..... in bt headset .. have a ring call every time
Lost in China
I have a problem with a Chinese Dopod HS-01 BT Stereo Headset!!!
Phone works, but the Stereo Headset starts for a second or two and then it is gone!
Please, help!
Is there any other solution then to change the registry and the things?
Using: WM6 CE OS 5.2.2000.
No one to ask for help over here!
To all those whose stereo headphone work, but only at BitPool < 25 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352483
Stefan
I am trying Touch HD with a Jabra 620s, A2DP (stereo headset profile), but I suffer occasional music skips.
I have read numerous thread about this problem, and habitual registery fixes like Priority256 etc.. doesnot seems to work with Touch HD.
With Bitpool=30 I have no skip, but sound is awful.
With Bitpool=40 I begin to skip. JOINEDSTEREO=1 helps a little.
I have not tried all Bitpool values below 40 (painful, softreset etc..) but Bitpool=40 is minimum quality IMO.
I tweaked Priority256 (/HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/BtA2dpSnd) down to 1, with not much improvement.
I noticed also turning Wifi off helps, but it is no sufficient.
Does anyone of you use A2DP ? Do you have problems ? Thanks for your help.
i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..
I get skips too. Haven't figured a solution yet.
I'm using Moto S9 stereo BT headset, I have the same problem......
And I noticed, when I start play music, and press the powerbutton make the HD enter the blackscreen mode, the quality is good, and music play very smooth, but if I press powerbutton again make the HD back to normal status, and screen on, big stutter occured, and after some seconds BT lost connect with HD......
It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?
i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...
Skipping?
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.
kareem9nba said:
It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?
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I've seen it, but not installed it for two reasons :
1) It isn't validated for WM6 nor for Touch HD
2) It seems to eat CPU time too much, according to certain posts
Thanks for the tips anyways. If someone more daring than me installs it on Touch HD, keeps up informed.
pzucchel said:
i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...
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A lot of people have problems with A2DP, but a lot too have none. I'm pretty sure problem comes from poor BT stack, not A2DP technology itself or BT broadcast / EMI problems. I've almost the same skipping rate with my headset 30cm from my HD, than 5 or 8m from my HD.
Your suggestion is wise, but I'm eager to make my Christmas present functionnal..
audscott said:
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.
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I've just downloaded it and tryied it. For now, no skip at all !!! (with BitPool=42) This application seems to be very optimized for A2DP.
I keep you informed in this thread if this resolves my issue. I want to increase Bitpool to 50 or more to have optimal quality (I listen classical), and I hope PP will handle this datarate.
Thanks for this excellent advice audscott.
tyronne1126 said:
i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..
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I also have had no problems using the HBH-DS980 except that I too can't get it to stay in 'standby mode'.
I started a thread on this exact same issue, but have had no joy up until now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462376
Any help or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Mav.
dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.
Where can one find these settings? I have looked high and low!
***Doh! Found them... HD Tweak is my friend!***
ruffruff said:
dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.
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I also have iTech BlueWhatEver and it works better, but still ones a few minutes sound skips
Also how to prevent phone from waking up from standby when I press pause/ff/rew button? Because it's ****ing annoying, I have to manually turn phone back off, so avcrp is totally useless if I have to touch the phone.
I suggest you lower the bitrate to 44100. 48k is useless since your mp3 are in 44.1kHz and you will save some CPU, bandwith
Jointstereo = 0 is prefered for quality purposes.
Then the bitpool ... this is where it gets tricky because every headset have their own limitations.
When i use it with my sony ericsson HBH-IS800 I can go up to 48.
If I use another device I need to lower it to 40.
The "CPU" of you headset needs to be taken into account.
The touch HD have no difficulties encoding SBC in realtime in high bitrate, the issue comes from the headset itself not able to decode SBC fast enough according to the bitpool you chose.
So there's nothing you can do except trying another BT Stack (that can have better SBC encoding algorithm) or changing you A2DP headset.
This is a response from HTC:
Dear valued HTC customer, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns. You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with your device. To clarify your issue, you stated that you do not feel your question was answered. As previously stated, and to answer your question: The Audio booster was Never designed to work with Bluetooth headsets, there are no plans currently to change this functionality. If the above steps do not resolve your issue, we invite you to visit the support area on our Web site.
Damn, i just got myself a TDK-100 and was posed with the same issue (only i have a HTC Touch Diamond).
Hmm maybe there's a hack that can trick it into thinking there's a headset plugged in?
It's a hassel because all the 3rd party players i've tried (Pocket Music, PocketTunes, MortPlayer etc.) don't support A2DP [i think] properly (ie. controls on BT remote don't work).
The quality of the WMP w/ the audio booster is quite acceptable as it uses minimal system resources and the controls work.
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Hmm maybe there's a hack that can trick it into thinking there's a headset plugged in?
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There is a hack - you can set Audio Booster to be enabled regardless of the headset state in Advanced Config/HD Tweak, or by editing the registry.
The bad news, however, is that it doesn't work with BT audio anyway - guess different drivers are used.
Hack doesn't work properly
Even when you hack it, you can't use the Equalizer properly. Audio Booster will start but it will not work properly. I've tried this dozens times!
Must say there is one player that works very good with bluetoth and that is pocket player..http://www.conduits.com/products/player/ u can try it out
gotta wonder why they didnt design it to work with bt. pretty poor imo. i cant imagine its liike a radio which needs an antenna
Conduits Pocket Player on Touch HD with BT headsets
When trying to use Conduits PPlayer with my BT headsets I can use the remote to change the volume, but when I try to change to another song, TouchFLO3D gets the BT command, I mean, Pocket Player won't skip songs because my BT send the command to TouchFLO3D
This works in PocketPlayer with use of the WMplayer plugin. Have a search on the Conduits site (I use a set of SD9 with my Touch HD and can change tracks using the headset buttons)
Regards
Hey,
I tried to figure this out for days. Seems like this phone dosent have a2dp, and that sucks. Is it possible to "enable" it ?? Is there a cab file or something, cause its "just" a profil ??
thanks
use this A2DP Toggle 1.1
The A2DP toggle app looks quite useful, I agree, but in any case I have been using BT stereo headphones with my 614c without any third party software.
Assuming you have paired your A2DP headphones or speakers with the phone, you can just use them out of the box.
If the A2DP connection is not made automatically, go into Bluetooth Settings, long-click on the A2DP device and click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
Hey,
thanks for responding. I have paired it and it works, but with distortion. thats why i figured out the a2dp thing (im just startet with the wireless sound )
But i still have distortion when i listen to music. Everything works but its bad sound.
Any help ??
Yes, I think I have had this problem myself.
You can try changing the gain setting. Go to Settings > System > Audio > Mic. Ensure that "Enable AGC" is not set. AGC stands for Automatic Gain Control. Move the slider to one end, perform a test of your wireless headphones, then move the slider to the other end, perform another test.
On my phone, the slider is set at "position 4" (where MAX = position 1).
You may need to reboot your phone between tests.
2inzane4u said:
Hey,
thanks for responding. I have paired it and it works, but with distortion. thats why i figured out the a2dp thing (im just startet with the wireless sound )
But i still have distortion when i listen to music. Everything works but its bad sound.
Any help ??
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Hi,
U can't get stereo sound out of a mono system without distortion.
Dirk
I've tried 2 apps and i have not been able to get them to work. I'm trying to get my music to play in my blue earpiece. I've tried Blue Audio and bluetunes and have not been able to get them to work... anyone else have any suggestions?
p.s
im not being cheap i have bluetooth headphones i just need a small earpiece to listen to music at work.
the quality is horrible from a BT headset or does that even matter...I have something on my computer that i'll post when I find it
The issue is not always because of the music player application.
Does your Bluetooth earpiece have A2DP support? If not, consider buying a new one that has, e.g., I listen through a Jabra BT8040 - no need to install any application to force an audio stream.
Forget it I think its one of the apps you tried
Mesquire said:
The issue is not always because of the music player application.
Does your Bluetooth earpiece have A2DP support? If not, consider buying a new one that has, e.g., I listen through a Jabra BT8040 - no need to install any application to force an audio stream.
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Well im using Jawbone 2.
Im not too concerned about quality because Im not going to have it on that loud.
I guess I may have to purchase a new earpiece to get that.... blah
it also works on my Blue Ant Q1, sounds good too. I didn't have to add any other apps or software
mmafighter077 said:
Well im using Jawbone 2.
Im not too concerned about quality because Im not going to have it on that loud.
I guess I may have to purchase a new earpiece to get that.... blah
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how i get mine to work is,i go to comm manager then set up bluetooth device,go to settings then advanced settings (additional setup options),then go to audio and enable play system sounds on a remote hands free device and it should work. hope that helps
Here is what you need to send stereo bluetooth to a mono bluetooth headset. I use it and it works great. You might have to play around with it for a bit to figure out how to work it. Just run the exe on your device and not on the computer. One exe sends the audio and one exe stops the audio.
bt audio
damn beat me to it james yes bt audio does work but i use a jawbone 2 & i route it through advanced bt settings in comm mgr i used to use it on my wing but iv graduated to my monster tp2
No need for BT app
On my TP2, there is an option in the BT settings to route system audio to the headset...this automatically plays my mp3's through my BT headset, mono or stereo. has worked well on any of the builds I have tried without needing to install any additional files or change any complex system settings.
tabecho said:
On my TP2, there is an option in the BT settings to route system audio to the headset...this automatically plays my mp3's through my BT headset, mono or stereo. has worked well on any of the builds I have tried without needing to install any additional files or change any complex system settings.
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haven't noticed that option before I remember some users were asking how to get the incoming calls ringtone and system sounds to play in their earpiece instead of on the phone.
nice find!