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Hey everyone, I just got my 8525 and have been playing around with a few customizations. One of the things that bugs me about the original button layout is that the placement of the camera button makes it nearly impossible to use the camera with only one hand (at least I always feel like I'm going to drop the phone).
So, I got the PTT patch (thanks Slueth255!) to map the camera to that button. However, it looks like any function can only be mapped to one button at a time, so the original button has to be remapped first. It works great in portrait mode, but in landscape, either the button is on the bottom of the phone or the display is upside-down. Is there a way to map two buttons to the same function? Or better yet, is there any way to rotate the camera display? Has anyone else found a better way to use the camera one-handed?
Thanks,
Sar
Sarumiso said:
Hey everyone, I just got my 8525 and have been playing around with a few customizations. One of the things that bugs me about the original button layout is that the placement of the camera button makes it nearly impossible to use the camera with only one hand (at least I always feel like I'm going to drop the phone).
So, I got the PTT patch (thanks Slueth255!) to map the camera to that button. However, it looks like any function can only be mapped to one button at a time, so the original button has to be remapped first. It works great in portrait mode, but in landscape, either the button is on the bottom of the phone or the display is upside-down. Is there a way to map two buttons to the same function? Or better yet, is there any way to rotate the camera display? Has anyone else found a better way to use the camera one-handed?
Thanks,
Sar
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Trying to work out at what stage your problem is. I turn on TyTn with thumb, move thumb along to camera button and then take picture with central D Pad button.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Trying to work out at what stage your problem is. I turn on TyTn with thumb, move thumb along to camera button and then take picture with central D Pad button.
Mike
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Thanks for the tip about using the center D-pad button to take a picture, it makes things a little easier. I realized after trying to take a pic that switching the camera function to the PTT button won't work. It will activate the camera program as expected, but once in camera mode, you still have to push the original camera button (or D-pad) to take a shot.
After some more playing around, I found that you can take a pic with the scroll wheel button as well, which makes it easier, but not perfect. You still have to reach for the camera button to switch to camera mode and the scroll wheel is not good for taking pictures as it will change camera modes with a scroll if your press is not dead center.
Ideally, I'd like to be able to take out the phone and snap a quick spur-of-the-moment picture without too much fumbling around. Typically, I hold the phone in my left hand with my index finger near the power button and thumb near the PTT button. Or, in landscape mode, index finger on the PTT button and thumb about halfway between camera and comm button (with the D-pad resting in the palm). Moving all the camera button functionality to the PTT button would really be great. Getting the camera program to run inverted would also be nice, but I could probably learn to live with having all my pics turn out upside-down.
-Sar
Sarumiso said:
Thanks for the tip about using the center D-pad button to take a picture, it makes things a little easier. I realized after trying to take a pic that switching the camera function to the PTT button won't work. It will activate the camera program as expected, but once in camera mode, you still have to push the original camera button (or D-pad) to take a shot.
After some more playing around, I found that you can take a pic with the scroll wheel button as well, which makes it easier, but not perfect. You still have to reach for the camera button to switch to camera mode and the scroll wheel is not good for taking pictures as it will change camera modes with a scroll if your press is not dead center.
Ideally, I'd like to be able to take out the phone and snap a quick spur-of-the-moment picture without too much fumbling around. Typically, I hold the phone in my left hand with my index finger near the power button and thumb near the PTT button. Or, in landscape mode, index finger on the PTT button and thumb about halfway between camera and comm button (with the D-pad resting in the palm). Moving all the camera button functionality to the PTT button would really be great. Getting the camera program to run inverted would also be nice, but I could probably learn to live with having all my pics turn out upside-down.
-Sar
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Yes, I see. I just tried it left handed and it is more difficult due to button positions. I also agree about scroll wheel push you have to be spot on with press else you end scrolling to another function.
Hopefully others will have some more tips/tricks.
I wanted my theme to look as much as possible as point UI.
you be the judge
The buttons at the bottom are removed. In stead I have 2 buttons at the top of the screen, the left for contactlist/smscontactlist the right for the option-buttons
--EDIT--
Not 1 but 2 revised versions, because I like you all so much.
Basiclly they are the same, with 1 difference:
Point UI Black BBF - Has a (point UI) bar at the bottom, which is the old favorite-button
Point UI Black NBBF - Has No Bottom Bar, in stead you can use the area between the other 2 buttons (see image).
Changelog:
- Returned the filter-button (in 2 different ways)
- Adjusted the top right button, it should work better now (it's also a little bit wider)
- Adjusted the dailer, it looks better now
- Changed the contact details top-bar, it now has an extra image
Known issues:
- The dailer sometimes keeps acting annoying
- With the NBBF-version, I can't get rid of the black square when you press the filter-button. It disappears again when you see contacts...
thank you
Daanmannetje said:
I wanted my theme to look as much as possible as point UI.
you be the judge
The buttons at the bottom are removed. In stead I have 2 buttons at the top of the screen, the left for contactlist/smscontactlist the right for the option-buttons
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Is this VGA? If not could you adjust it?
I tried to do anthing with relative sizes, but I don't know if it works on VGA, I think some of the images might be out of proportion.
I don't have a VGA-device, so I can't test it...
THX for the Skin.....but I have found some bugs...
1 ...by opening and closing the application, it opens in dial modus (Is that a normal behave) here the layout between icons and text does not suit each other
2 by long pressing inside a contact i got that (second image)
How can i get the options again..?? i would like to switch back to the former skin.
Used device: HTC Cruise (Orbit 2)
Daanmannetje said:
I wanted my theme to look as much as possible as point UI.
you be the judge
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I'm guessing you'll like better alpha channel support in 0.19
tene said:
I'm guessing you'll like better alpha channel support in 0.19
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Yes I will, but it is getting harder and harder to create a working skin without bugs...
qtek_metanol said:
THX for the Skin.....but I have found some bugs...
1 ...by opening and closing the application, it opens in dial modus (Is that a normal behave) here the layout between icons and text does not suit each other
2 by long pressing inside a contact i got that (second image)
How can i get the options again..?? i would like to switch back to the former skin.
Used device: HTC Cruise (Orbit 2)
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I don't have those problems, it doesn't open with the dail modus here.
If you have serious problems and can't get to the option screen:
- close pocketCM (use the close running programs in WM5/6)
- rename another theme to point ui.zip
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I don't have those problems, it doesn't open with the dail modus here.
If you have serious problems and can't get to the option screen:
- close pocketCM (use the close running programs in WM5/6)
- rename another theme to point ui.zip
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THX for the recommendation, I've already recovery my old skin again (iPhone-ish v2.6) but anyway i must ask you something, where can the user in your skin reach the PocketCM options..??
I found the colors of your skin very lively
Normally you have 4 buttons at the bottom:
Favorite, SMS/phone, Filter, Options
Now you have 2 buttons at the top:
The phone on the left = SMS/Phone
The arrow on the right = Options
Press and hold options to see 4 extra buttons:
old contacts
options
close
minimize
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The arrow on the right = Options
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Well, this button has always closed the app...and after when I tryed to reopen the app using the key "contacts" came the dialing option as showed.
normally you had to press the options buttons shortly to get the dail and long to minimize/see options
what you properly did was press it short, which opened the dail and then a second time which minimized it.
When you pressed contacts again, you maximized pocketCM and the dail was still open...
Looks great! I'll try is as soon as possible.
Looks great. Any chance you could skin it black to go with the black PointUI?
Zyphlin said:
Looks great. Any chance you could skin it black to go with the black PointUI?
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see the first post...
Really great skin, very nice work..
I really like your work man but you have still some little improvements to do
What qtek_metanol was trying to tell you is that when you use the virtual button to minimize the app, and reopen it, you'll see PocketCM open with the dialer on ... But the reason is simple... this virtual button is the same as your option button (but smaller). In fact, the virtual button is in the right up corner (like if it was the cross) and if you want to use it, you click also on the option button which show the dialer.
I don't think that we can deactivate this virtual button so the isue is maybe to move the option button... ?? You're the creative one
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I really like your work man but you have still some little improvements to do
What qtek_metanol was trying to tell you is that when you use the virtual button to minimize the app, and reopen it, you'll see PocketCM open with the dialer on ... But the reason is simple... this virtual button is the same as your option button (but smaller). In fact, the virtual button is in the right up corner (like if it was the cross) and if you want to use it, you click also on the option button which show the dialer.
I don't think that we can deactivate this virtual button so the isue is maybe to move the option button... ?? You're the creative one
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What is the virtual button?
Is there normally a button in the upper right corner? I've tested it with the standard theme and no matter how much I pressed there, nothing happened.
The only thing I can think about is the following:
If you "click" (really short) on the upper right corner = dailpad
If you press (less then 400ms) on the right corner = minimize
If you press and hold the upper right corner = option-buttons
Those are all standard with every theme, just the location of the button changed..
I want the theme to work perfect, and it does for me... except for the dailer screen, it's a bit messed up with the green and red, but I never use it...
Ok so we don't have the same isue...
If I click (less than a nanosecond ) on the right corner : minimise + Dialer
If I press (less then 400ms) on the right corner = minimize + Dialer
If you press and hold the upper right corner = option-buttons
Maybe it's because of my Touch ??
I've tried, maybe you're partly right:
click = dailer or dailer + minimize
press = minimize
press and hold = option-buttons
so the solution for me is to press and not to click
Maybe someone can try to mess around with the timings in settings.ini? I think you can adjust the 400ms and stuff...
Just thought I'd share this one I found.
If you hold down the "home" button for about a second you get an easy task switcher to any app that was running in the background. It's faster than hitting back till you get to the menu or getting to the menu and then finding the app you are after .
Sliding your finger across the notification window just as it drops down changes the brightness of the screen.
Any others that people have found?
You can add shortcuts to phone numbers and messages on the home screen by holding your finger down and selecting shortcuts on the home screen somewhere. This also appears to work with a lot of apps, like kindle shortcuts to a specific book.
All android phones do this, Holding the Home button is a standard android way to "Switch fast" between apps
A few things I found out reading the SGS forum here:
1. You can control the brightness by sliding your finger left to right when pulling down the notification bar. Just keep your finger on the edge of the pull down window.
2. You can have the SGS announce the title/artist of a song from the Music player by pressing and holding the Up Volume button while a song is playing.
3. You can "lock screen" while watching video by pressing Power Button while a video is playing. This is great at preventing unintended clicks while holding the phone watching a video.
tenshi888 said:
A few things I found out reading the SGS forum here:
1. You can control the brightness by sliding your finger left to right when pulling down the notification bar. Just keep your finger on the edge of the pull down window.
2. You can have the SGS announce the title/artist of a song from the Music player by pressing and holding the Up Volume button while a song is playing.
3. You can "lock screen" while watching video by pressing Power Button while a video is playing. This is great at preventing unintended clicks while holding the phone watching a video.
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I know the third one, but didn't know the first two. Thank you tenshi, for sharing.
However, I don't quite understand how exactly you can change the brightness in the day you described, cos I can't seem to do it.
Also, I got the feeling that to effect number 2, there is a monthly subscription that I need to pay to Optus. They gave me a 7 day free trial before continuing, and I did not continue.
eaglesteve, for #1, make sure auto-brightness is off in your display settings, now when you slide the notification bar panel down try sliding your finger left to right and you'll notice the display brightness change.
for #2, I don't think its connected to your provider as it doesn't even need a data connection to work, it's just using text to speech. You might have to enable or download it the first time.
eaglesteve said:
I know the third one, but didn't know the first two. Thank you tenshi, for sharing.
However, I don't quite understand how exactly you can change the brightness in the day you described, cos I can't seem to do it.
Also, I got the feeling that to effect number 2, there is a monthly subscription that I need to pay to Optus. They gave me a 7 day free trial before continuing, and I did not continue.
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eaglesteve, for #1, make sure auto-brightness is off in your display settings, now when you slide the notification bar panel down try sliding your finger left to right and you'll notice the display brightness change.
for #2, I don't think its connected to your provider as it doesn't even need a data connection to work, it's just using text to speech. You might have to enable or download it the first time.
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My auto-brightness is already off, but I still can't seem to change the brightness when sliding from left to right or right to left while pulling down the notification curtain. Any other clue?
For 2, you're right, once I downloaded the voice synthesising software from the market place, it works. I need to make sure the music player is in the foreground for this to work, right?
spenceee said:
If you hold down the "home" button for about a second you get an easy task switcher to any app that was running in the background. It's faster than hitting back till you get to the menu or getting to the menu and then finding the app you are after .
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Technically it's a "most recently used" list rather than a list of apps running in the background. For example if you have just exited a navigation app, or killed an app from a process manager, it will still appear in this list.
Interesting thread.
I just want to add some "shortcuts" I discovered myself using the Galaxy (maybe they aren't so hidden. I am a lousy user, don't like to read manuals. So maybe they are very obvious )
Close pull down window/curtain, close desktop layer folders and close keyboard by tapping back key
Access to the bookmark button and address bar in the brower by tapping the menu button (no need to scroll all the way up)
Open soft D-Pad by tap-and-hold the "?123" key on the standard Samsung Keyboard
Quick and reliable GPS reception by editing the ntp server in the gps.conf file
Someone I only just learnt...
Pressing and holding the power button performs a reset. (Keep pressing it after you get the shut down/mute/airplane options and the phone will suddenly restart. Have to keep the button pressed for 5 secs atleast).
dagrim1 said:
Someone I only just learnt...
Pressing and holding the power button performs a reset. (Keep pressing it after you get the shut down/mute/airplane options and the phone will suddenly restart. Have to keep the button pressed for 5 secs atleast).
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cool
holding menu key for about a second brings up google search.Im sure its probably a feature of all android phones and probably in the manual but im new to android and dont read manuals much.
If you´re in "contacts"
slide to the right for an instant call or slide to the left for messaging the contact
mazurson said:
If you´re in "contacts"
slide to the right for an instant call or slide to the left for messaging the contact
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cool, this is handy when you're driving
i usually double tap the contact, but if your car goes over a bump or pot hole, then the 2nd tap is missed, and wont work.
mazurson said:
If you´re in "contacts"
slide to the right for an instant call or slide to the left for messaging the contact
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SWEET, this is a great way to dial and text people from contacts
Thx for the info
1. Browsing in the Gallery
When browsing your large list of photo's in the 'Gallery', click the icon on the right to group them into date taken ~ makes browsing much more manageable.
2. Locking the Camera
If you wish to leave the camera on but worried you may accidentally touch the scrren/controls you can lock the camera.
Once you have the camera set up how you want it, simply briefly press the Power button. You will then see a white padlock appear on screen. Now you can hold the camera and phone how you like until you are ready to shoot.... When ready again briefly press the Power button, the padlock disappears and you can take your shoot/video.
sammy555 said:
holding menu key for about a second brings up google search.Im sure its probably a feature of all android phones and probably in the manual but im new to android and dont read manuals much.
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Nah, it's samsung's replacement for the search button that's a Google requirement. They don't have a button for it, so they assigned long-press menu for search, whereas on the Nexus One, it'll make force the soft-'board to come up.
yes it works...
eaglesteve said:
My auto-brightness is already off, but I still can't seem to change the brightness when sliding from left to right or right to left while pulling down the notification curtain. Any other clue?
For 2, you're right, once I downloaded the voice synthesising software from the market place, it works. I need to make sure the music player is in the foreground for this to work, right?
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At first it didn't worked for me also, because I understand bad.
Not pulling down. Go to the upper of the screen, press till the botton of the dropdown curtain appears, but don't slide it down. Once that appears the BAR move left or right your finger, and it will adjust.
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At first it didn't worked for me also, because I understand bad.
Not pulling down. Go to the upper of the screen, press till the botton of the dropdown curtain appears, but don't slide it down. Once that appears the BAR move left or right your finger, and it will adjust.
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Ah yes, I got it to work too. The trick is not to pull it down but just to make the curtain barely appear before you slide.
Thanks for your excellent explanation.
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holding menu key for about a second brings up google search.Im sure its probably a feature of all android phones and probably in the manual but im new to android and dont read manuals much.
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Thanks, didn't know this one. Very useful and now I can get rid of the google search bar on the desktop too
when receiving a call press the volume down button to mute th ringer
old but cool
In my phone by pressing that key camera application is not getting opened , Cannot even capture a photo using that.
Is there any setting I have to change ?
felixpaul said:
In my phone by pressing that key camera application is not getting opened , Cannot even capture a photo using that.
Is there any setting I have to change ?
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Well, i personally i have a shortcut to camera app on my screen and i'm using touch to capture.
I've never used that key ... but...
1. From what i know, on X10, pressing that key won't open the app.
2. To take a picture, press the button half down, wait for focus and then press all the way down.
thanks for your response
When pressing like that focus cursor (centre of display) turns green then goes off , but not capturing
to open the camera app with the key, press it all the way in, and hold it for around 3 seconds
to take a picture push it in halfway for the green focus to come up, then all the way in to take picture, simple
I did it but not working.
Dunno if this is a but obvious but are you pressing it hard enough?
I only ask because I have to press mine very very hard to actually capture.
Swyped from my rooted X10i using XDA.
Lord Takyon said:
Dunno if this is a but obvious but are you pressing it hard enough?
I only ask because I have to press mine very very hard to actually capture.
Swyped from my rooted X10i using XDA.
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Agree, the button is just a bit to hard for my taste. But i can live with it
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
You probably are using a task-killer that is killing some process related to the button. Pressing the button opens up the Camera app. If it doesn't, you've screwed up a setting somewhere or killed a task unnecessarily.
Have you went into the test menu? (While in the lock screen, press menu > back > back > menu > back > menu > menu > back).
Then go to service tests, and find "Keyboard and switch" or something, see if it registers the button press. It should register half press and a whole press.
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Have you went into the test menu? (While in the lock screen, press menu > back > back > menu > back > menu > menu > back).
Then go to service tests, and find "Keyboard and switch" or something, see if it registers the button press. It should register half press and a whole press.
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Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for sharing.
Sorry, I'm too lazy to read the manual.
Finally I found it , Thanks for all your valuable advise
Is there any way to remap the function of "RecentApps" soft key to "Menu" function?
I almost do not use "RecentApps" and I find the necessity of manual search of "settings" button in each app quite distracting.
I have Xperia Ray smartphone and it has Back button, Home button (long press on this button launches RecentApps and not the useless Google circle pane, like in Nexus, which is not even customizable) and Menu button, which I use VERY often.
In my opinion - this scheme is the most convenient and I'd like to get it in Nexus 7.
Does anybody have an idea how it could be implemented?
metaxaos said:
Is there any way to remap the function of "RecentApps" soft key to "Menu" function?
I almost do not use "RecentApps" and I find the necessity of manual search of "settings" button in each app quite distracting.
I have Xperia Ray smartphone and it has Back button, Home button (long press on this button launches RecentApps and not the useless Google circle pane, like in Nexus, which is not even customizable) and Menu button, which I use VERY often.
In my opinion - this scheme is the most convenient and I'd like to get it in Nexus 7.
Does anybody have an idea how it could be implemented?
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Where 'menu' key is applicable, three dots show on the right low corner. If these dots don't appear, I don't think 'menu' key would bring you anywhere anyway (or those three dot's appear anywhere else, like in one of top corners, and pressing menu key would open the menu from those dots anyway, so you'd have to move your fingers a lot)
I have xperia as well (Arc S), and as much as I had to get used to it from beginning, I understand why the choice of these buttons (not every app uses the menu key, so it would be useless in such cases).
I don't know how else are you going to switch apps then, click back every time?
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Where 'menu' key is applicable, three dots show on the right low corner. If these dots don't appear, I don't think 'menu' key would bring you anywhere anyway (or those three dot's appear anywhere else, like in one of top corners, and pressing menu key would open the menu from those dots anyway, so you'd have to move your fingers a lot)
I have xperia as well (Arc S), and as much as I had to get used to it from beginning, I understand why the choice of these buttons (not every app uses the menu key, so it would be useless in such cases).
I don't know how else are you going to switch apps then, click back every time?
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It would be really good if it was always true. Unfortunately, it's not. For example, there is a FBReader app, where you could hide all the status and toolbars and where you just cannot get into menu without separate button. Besides it's always better to have one familiar key than to look for GUI shortcut in each app.
To switch between apps - long press on Home key. It's not so frequently used feature to have a special button for that. IMHO.
Anyway, does anyone know anything about some solution?