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Has anyone tried plugging in a USB HDD?

i was wondering, what if i got a USB harddrive, and plugged it into my hermes?
would WM6 even notice its there?
this is assuming i've got a externally powered HDD that uses the normal USBHOST.
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..

If you have one lying around, give it a go?!

JamesHolden said:
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..
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that might be the clue to your answer..... the usb port in the phone lacks the capability to host an actual usb device, whether the external device is powered or not... But give it a go anyway... i cant think of any harm in trying... unless there is some kind of major power backflow, but that shouldnt happen unless your external device is faulty

the OS may support it, but hardware-wise - i dont think the Hermes supports USB hosting? or does it?

My brain says no...
But the hope in me says yes...

Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb

4Site said:
Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb
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having the device mimmick and external drive and plugging in external storage through USB are 2 completly different things... and it all comes down to the USB host... when you plug your phone into your pc your computer then is able to act as a usb host, as it has the power and the drivers necessary for that... the phone itself lacks the abiltiy to be able to become a usb host...
but hey, at least your thinking

So it may be possible to access a USB HDD if we catered for it using a driver of some sort (written by us guys ofcourse). This may even show up in the file manager as something like /Hard_Drive.?

main procesor (and also OS itself) have support for USB host, but for some reason HTS decide to not enable this feature, it was asked many times, but solution doesnt exist yet... I used this functionallity on my old Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX n500 without necesity to install any drivers, or registry hack, after connection device had available after few second. It was WM5 device.

well think about this:
keep a laptop usb HDD in your car, 160GB of music at your command, with TCPMP who needs a ipod?
i've already modded my stock headset cable to have a 1/8" miniplug AND RCA's on it, so i'm set for the output, but my 4GB of microsd cards just don't cut it
so i'm working on tryin' to find a usb mini b male to usb b male cable right now, might just have to solder one up myself-- i'll post to see how it goes.

I think I've seen them for sale at Radioshack and Compusa - might try peaking in there though if you have a bunch of USB cables kicking around probably cheaper to solder

IF you look around on the net somewhere, someone successfully made a wifi hard drive, and i think it was fairly inexpensive... He loaded tons of mp3's and would access them from his phone via wifi.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?

skunker said:
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?
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Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.

jcb_home said:
Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.
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Looks nice!

I just tried this. And nothing happens. Tried a usb memory key (low power), an external HDD (on its own power supply) and a card reader, none of them did anything.

thanks for the go.. after my weekend spent messing with *nix and tryin' to get into locked up wifi, i was spent.

Connect Athena to external touch screen monitor, possibile?

Hi guys, i am currently trying to set up my Athena with my car, i wonder if it's possible to connect my Athena with a external touch screen monitor like this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-INCH-TOUCH-...9QQihZ005QQcategoryZ32826QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
throw the VGA cable.
I know it will display the screen throw VGA out, but I am not sure whether it will enable the touch screen function, any of you know this?
Thanks a lot
p.s. I will post some screen shot if I succeed in this project.

Is that a PS2 port?
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?

inframan said:
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?
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I am sure you don't need a pen, there are lots of touch screen out there, for example this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
I just don't know if we simply plug in the vga cable from our Athena to the touch screen, will that work?
Possibility not, I can kind of see a usb cable there, how about plug that in the usb host ? but then maybe we still need to install the driver.....
Basically, what I am trying to do here to use get a bigger screen to show for Athena in a car. So, I will then have much bigger TOMTOM, and also can watch movie or go on internet.
Any good suggestion guys? Thanks a lot for all your help.

I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.

johnwalk said:
I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.
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it seems like they all need to install driver, do you think it will work without driver?

thats the only problem, does it need specialist drivers? I havnt been able to come up with an answer yet.
But i wont be buying one for the car, somone nicked me vario yesterday from the car so not even chancing the Ameo.
I was just going to buy a little 7" tv I bought this tiny Keyboard out of Maplin on offer. thought it would look sweet in the car. but this is giving me other ideas, anybody shed light!

They ALL need specialist drivers.
Touchscreen is absolute position, mouse is relative. You NEED the custom driver. It may be possible, but I dont know how.

1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.

Basmelek said:
1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.
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Thanks for your answer, i just ask one of the seller there on ebay, and the answer I got is I will be able to plug the VGA cable in, that will enable the screen to display, but in order to get the touch screen working, I also need to plug in a USB, so now the question is whether the USB host will work on this....and of course the driver need to work too

The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.

IT WORKS!
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.

Pyrofer said:
The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.
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Your on the right track with this answer,
Look for a touch screen that has a protocol that is treated as a standard HID ( Human interface device ) Ie:mouse, keyboard etc.etc.
if you can find such a device then the built in drivers for plug and play HID's will work fine.
otherwise the rest are right

Did this really work??? What car? This would simply be quite fantabulous.
cyberlancer said:
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.
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(OTG) On the Go Flashing using usb stick!!

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I love this forum. I have learn't so much so far, but still have a lot to learn. Epecially programming for WM. Anyway, on to the reason for posting this thread.
Since learning that I could flash from my microSD card thanks to the tutorial by renaming the *.nbh to KAISIMG.nbh and placing it in the root folder. I have been making custom 1st splash screens to flash remotely as well as making a directory on my microSd ("Flashing from MicroSD") and creating directories for original roms such as (\WM6 Originals\Alex\KAISIMG.nbh) or (\WM6.1\SleuthV3\KAISIMG.nbh), (I also have KAISIMG for just Radios under a different folder) so when I want to try a new rom, flash a different radio or splash, I can at anytime.
Here's the thing I love using the splash tools (maker and converter) and Rom Builder. But obviously you need a PC. Would anyone by able to recreate a mobile version of these tools so we could do most things (customisation wise) whilst we are mobile.
I.E. I want to make and flash a new splash whilst mobile from a *.jpg. I could use this program to convert to .bmp format needed, then convert to *.nb thsn to *.nbh. I could then use a file manager to rename to KAISIMG.nbh then place in microSD root folder and flash.
What you think? Would this be too hard to do? Anyone want more mobile control of your mobile customisation?
Other tools that could be ported would also help. I make the welcome.96.png with my mobile graphics problems.
Well for the moment I'll stick to making several themed splash into the KAISIMG.nbh to flash remotely (making sure you have enough battery mind/dont flash on 10% or something/I recommend over 10% for mobile flashing your splashes and over 50% for you WM Roms)
Got a collection of around 19 Slide out Keyboard sounds inc Knightrider, Thundercats, Xbox 360 boot sound and others. When I have a couple more made I'll post my Sliding keyboard Sounds.cab if anybody wants it over the next Couple of days. (Some sounds gathered from other users share i.e. Mario etc) See this post for my collection of sounds: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372999
Thanks anyway. Feel free to post your views and look forward to seeing if anyone is up to this challenge..
for ever an xda padawan (as no-one ever knows everything)
diigibio

OTG
Ok, here I go again. How about this??
I have a mini-usb to female USB connector which came with my Archos AV700TV for OTG (On The Go). Which allows me to insert my 4GB usb stick into the Archos. Where I can play, copy, delete or edit anything on the stick.
These connectors don't cost a lot and in my point of view would be a great advantage to those of us that want to Flash our Roms and Splash screens etc whilst we are at work or as a passenger in a car. I would like to leave my memory card with just my programs and music.
By having OTG on our devices I/we could keep all our KAISIMG.nbh (Orginal Roms, Custom Roms, Roms we are trying, Radios, Splash) All on a Usb stick, just lease a Maximum of 150MB on memory card. So that when you want to Flash a Rom. You connect your usb stick via small (mini-usb to female usb) into Kaiser (or other/I'm not Phonist) And use either an already existing filemanager (Resco/Total Commander etc) or created app (developed for sole OTG purpose) to copy \Custom Rom\Alex\WM6.1\Version 3\KAISIMG.nbh to the root of your memory card. Disconnect usb stick boot into bootloader and flash image.
You could also keep all your backup .cab files on the stick and perhaps ask the writer of Tier Auto Install to allow these to be read off such a device as a usb stick using (OTG).
And at only a guess if OTG was created for our phones I'm sure they could possible support higher size usb sticks than our microSDHC cards.
Only an Idea though. CAN ANYONE HELP?????

The USB OTG protocol is a hardware thing. Most WM devices do not have the ability to host a USB port, and so cannot initiate the connection needed to acheive what you want.

l3v5y said:
The USB OTG protocol is a hardware thing. Most WM devices do not have the ability to host a USB port, and so cannot initiate the connection needed to acheive what you want.
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Never Mind then just thought with it being (Universal Serial Bus) I thought we could perhaps do something along the lines of WM5Storage. Thought it'ld just be a driver plus writing a relevant protocal script.
Thanks for the input anyway.
diigibio

Please Read this: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/1822
And this:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb202176.aspx

The kaiser doesn't have the correct hardware...

l3v5y said:
The kaiser doesn't have the correct hardware...
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Yes you said and I submitted. No harm in extra reading material as this is something I'm interested. Besides there is nothing much else to do in Blackpool at the moment.
Gonna go read..
diigibio

diigibio said:
Yes you said and I submitted. No harm in extra reading material as this is something I'm interested. Besides there is nothing much else to do in Blackpool at the moment.
Gonna go read..
diigibio
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Now, what resistors do I have to solder where to make it work........

l3v5y said:
Now, what resistors do I have to solder where to make it work........
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Who knows!! LOL
Gonna, try and by a cheap otg hd with built in led and see if it picks up the phone, maybe using the WM5Storage program so the otg hd might recognise it as the otg drive would be the host and has the hardware.
Even if it works, a bit bigger than something that can be carried around the neck...
I'm Bored...

If you have a OTG archos, couldn't you use that?

l3v5y said:
If you have a OTG archos, couldn't you use that?
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Yeah, tried just now it comes up with portable storage device connected, but has some kind of error "USB Device could not be read correctly. Please try again".
It charges my phone though, so that a positive at least. Can use it as a portable battery pack as I take my archos everywhere. And I can charge that at work.
Maybe the error is caused because the phone has multiple memory types: Flash, microSD. Maybe it needs some software to point it in the right direction.???

Even when using WM5torage?

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Even when using WM5torage?
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Yes, I have version 1.8. Don't know if this is recent and I'm using WM6.1 (Sleuth V3)
It reads card via card reader though via otg.

Ah, Softtick Card Export Works fine direct to archos. Still not quite what I was after but would sufice.

I gotta get me one of those...

One Great Device
l3v5y said:
I gotta get me one of those...
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I love my Archos AV700TV. Just got two of my colleagues one each for £150 inc postage.
7inch Screen, TV-OUT/TV-IN Freeview TV with Quality Aerials plus Aerial Car suction cup mounts. OTG go with cool browser, Pics, games, movies (including divx) Great battery life 40gb HD by default (up to 100GB) Can record freeview straight to box with included aerials or using TV Aerial to Mini-usb adapter. Also has a schedular feature, Portable USB 2.0 Hard Drive.
Now it stores my WM Roms and .cabs and also can be used to charge my phone via usb.
Wouldn't Sell it for the world!! Oh and comes with graphics drivers!! LOL
diigibio

Windows Mobile USB host drivers.

The Xperia doesn't have host capabilities, but is it possible to get such functions with suitable drivers? Such drivers are discussed in this thread:
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58813
As you can see they work with certain winmo devices. I wasn't able to make them work with my Xperia, but maybe one of you guys would be able to do it. Any other solutions?

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Not sure I'd bother really. What do you need to connect? If it's for storage just get yourself devices that take SD cards, then use MicroSD in adapters, then y ou can easily take it out and put it in the Xperia to copy stuff over.

Well, I guess I want my Xperia to have all sorts of capabilities. Imagine connecting an external DVD-RW drive and burning a couple of disks...... How about that !

I don't think linking to warez sites is within the rules..
if you have to it would be better to stick the relevant text in your post

Um.... the site may be for anything, but the drivers are freeware made by a poster on that site. I don't think it is against the rules, but if it is a mod should take the necessary steps.

The only reason that I could reasonably see for having a USB host to to accept USB pendrives for copying data to the microSD card. I can see 3-4 reasons why it wouldn't work, the primary one being that the USB port won't provide 5v/500mA to power the external peripheral.

Just a idea...
i have an idea which i like to share with You ...Imagine one small box with 4 ordinary aa mignon bateries inside and a card reader inside and a mini usb cable going out from that thing. Ok, now what we have here? Alternative charger for Your Xperia if You need it,some extra backup space for Your data and all we need is Usb host drivers on xperia. Advantages of this stuff is that everyone can make it, its a cheap solution,You can buy a batteries in almost every market and its just a basic idea so You can upgrade it as You need it. The fact is that we now have a power (5v/500ma) which we need for usb host. Please let me know what are You think of this and sorry for my bad English

Hm.... So the Xperia doesn't have a powered USB right? Can't this be changed by a software hack or something or is it hardware related? Is there a device that can be put between the Xperia and the external flash and that provides some form of power, like the one "Mrca" suggested above my post?

I would like posibilyty to conect usb stick.
now and then I trawel by ferry it takes abaur 12 h of doing nothing.
and just watching movies on phone.
so stick is perfect for video or music. my mini 8gb sd is full with other crap.
and by hqaving external power to usb it alsoo charges phone.
so anyone ?!?!?!

PLEASE USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION !
This has allready been discussed here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
You should have a look to those other subforums of devices which feature the same chipset / functions.... ( Touch HD , Touch Pro, Touch Diamond etc etc etc )

[Q] Attaching a flash drive to Kin Onem

I am wondering if it would be possible to attach a flash drive to a kin onem using a microUSB to standard female USB adapter. I was thinking of buying one but thought i would ask here before blowing the 3 bucks because i doubt it will work. Would the software somehow support the mass storage device?

DOubtful
I highly doubt this will actually work. The most practical way would just to be to take the files off the phone via computer and and transfer from there. But you can go ahead and try this if you want; it's only three dollars anyway. It could come in handy in some other place, too.