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Hi all,
I've been monitoring my memory usage to find out which application is using the most memory and which one is leaking. However, accidentallty, I found out that ActiveSync keep on starting itself and run in the background, taking about 300-400K.
I noticed this when I was trying to figured out why my memory seems to decrease when nothing is running (I didn't start any application). However, if I set the MEssaging application to check email every 15 minutes, ActiveSync seems to start itself every 15-30 minutes. This is shown in the "Running" program tab in the "Memory" applet (Control Panel).
I'll kill the ActiveSync process, then later on it'll come back again.
Does anyone know why is this? It's taking up my previous memory...
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* ACTIVESYNC 4.0 TURNS ON AUTOMATICALLY (DRAINS BATTERY): *
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1) Start up AS on your PDA.
2) Tap the menu tab/soft key and tap "Add Server Source"
3) Configure a server source with a dummy IP address, user id,
password and domain name; these do not have to be real.
4) Once configured you should have another sync source show up
on your main AS screen...continue on.
5) Tap the menu soft key again and you should see that the
sync schedule option is no longer greyed out.
6) Change your schedule from a timed automatic start of AS to
manual under both fields
7) If you try to sync now, AS will try to contact your imaginary
exchange server and that will take forever until it times out,
so you can now delete the exchange server from your list of
sync sources. Your changes to the sync schedule will remain and
will survive soft resets too.
Hi Dodger,
Thanks for your help! I am trying out your solution now and waiting (of course) for the SYnc to my "imaginary" Exchange Server to time out, since it takes ages to do so.
Just a quick question on Step 7 below:
"...so you can now delete the exchange server from your list of
sync sources. Your changes to the sync schedule will remain and
will survive soft resets too.
So you're saying that once I delete the Exhcange Server from my list, ActiveSync will no longer startup automatically but my regular Sync to AS4.1 on my desktop will stay the same?
Well,
I'm not sure about step 7. I've found these steps sometime on the Ineternet and don't know the author of it (forgot, sorry).
I never do step 7.
The procedure however works fine on my 2020 under WM2005.
I just deleted the Exchange Server from the List and so far ActiveSync hasn't started in my MDA yet. I'll keep monitoring and post if it start-up again.
Cheers!
I just bought an 8525. Sometimes, when I hit the messaging button (hard button) the title bar changes to say "Text Messaging" or whatever, but the Today Screen still shows. If I close the messaging app, then hit the hard button again, it'll open correctly. I also notice duplicate notifications in MemMaid for tmail.exe after this happens
SPB Diary 2.2, SPB Pocket Plus 3.1.2, Egress 3.1, MemMaid 1.72
Right now only checking 2 email accounts: hotmail and .mac (now through POP, though had the same quirk when setup as IMAP).
Tried the fake server trick, still happening. I'm curious what's causing it. Could it be SPB Diary or Pocket Plus? I have the close button enabled in Pocket Plus.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Sorry guys... I suck.
I think it may all have to do with SPB Pocket Plus. Cuz last night.... it froze up. And I read the threads relating to that. I think they're linked. Gonna hard reset and start afresh and see what happens.
Thanks!
I don't have any of the programs you listed and I have this same problem on my TyTn. I find it very annoying....
I also have this little bug and noticed it ever since I upgraded to SPB Diary 2x.
My bug is a little different though. When it happens, if I go to the today screen, I can't select any of the diary stuff. It's as if the touch screen there stops functioning.
So to get it working, I have to tap the date or something at the top and then exit that. Now I'm able to select the diary items. Then I have to tap and hold the blue message tab and select go to inbox to have it show properly.
The messaging key bug has been around for a while. I had it with me 8125 and it is in my 8525.
If you check the wizard forum you will see no one has every found out what was causeing this.
Ugh... I had it on my 8125 too... its part of the reason I upgraded to the 8525 (the other part is that my 8125 took a tumble onto the concrete. )
Oh well... hopefully it'll go away with the next ROM upgrade.
same problem here with imate jasjam with jasjam wwe ROM. even when its stock, no other apps installed, same problem happens.
what i have noticed is that once you load up messenging and minimize it (not shut it down), then the messeging button works everytime.
otherwise if messeging is always closed, the hard button has an intermittent problem
Sorta *BUMP* / Sorta not...
So my buddy bought his 8525 a week after I bought mine. Granted, he doesn't have any of the programs I have on his... but he's NEVER had that happen to him.
I had a thought... who uses Hotmail/PocketMSN? I wonder if the "Download Mail Automatically" setting has anything to do with it. I just turned it off. We'll see.
I'm wondering if it's my phone itself. I still got a week before the exchange period is up.
Anybody hear anything new about this?
Okay... I did three things yesterday and all of them could be the culprit. (However now I'm having other problems so I'm gonna hard reset and start again.)
This is what I did... see if it helps:
1. Turned off "Download Mail Automatically" for Hotmail in Pocket MSN. (Maybe hotmail hangs during a disconnect or something?) - This still may be it.
2. Turned off scheduled checks (30 mins) for my .Mac IMAP account. (Which I never had a problem with... but maybe it hangs during a disconnect?) - It seems that as long as I don't schedule Pocket Outlook to go fetch mail everything is okay... the second I set a schedule the quirk pops up.
3. Removed the Messages tab from PocketBreeze. Since a lot of these troubles seem to be related to Diary or PocketBreeze, I wonder if there's some conflict between POutlook and the "Inboxes" in the messaging tab.) - This has nothing to do with it.
Hope this helps!
Since it's working now... I'm gonna at least let it be stable for 1 day and see what happens.
stopping activesync
is there a way to stop activesync from running in background on my 8525? my pda freezes every once in awhile and have problems with connecting to pc. to connect to pc i have to go to memory and shut off activesync before plugging in usb. i've tried to delete repllog.exe in the notification queue with no luck. help LuXx
Reducing lock-ups and freezing:
A key consideration here is the active sync application that is linked with many lock up problems - particularly overnight or during active syncs auto scheduling process.
A quick way to temporarily shut Active Sync down (as well as any other programmes running in the background) would be say Magic Button or HTC X Button which are quicker than using the running programmes in the memory menu to do this.
However Active Sync can start again by itself via various scheduling routines. There is a way to prevent this known as the "Fake Server Trick":
This 'server trick' was discovered by an Aximsite forum member known as Invid
This post originally created by IamNotMe fourpages.co.uk (Adapted)
"1. Turn on your Device
2. Go to Start > Programs > Activesync. This will open the Activesync program.
3. Tap Menu at the bottom right hand corner of the screen. This will bring up the Options Menu. Notice the option Schedule... is greyed out? This is the all-critical option we need to get access to. But as it's disabled we can't change Activesync's default synchronisation schedule.
Ok, so how do we enable the Schedule option? Easy!!! Fool Activesync into thinking there is an Exchange Server to sync with:
1. From Activesync's Menu tap on Add Server Source.
2. In the following screens you can enter any old garbage. It does not matter, but just in case your unsure, just type the following in the indicated boxes:
Server Address: fake
Tap Next
User name: fake
Password: fake
Domain: fake
(Ticking save password or going into the Advanced menu makes no difference, so no need to bother).
Tap Next
Untick all of the 'Data you want to synchronise' options
Tap Finish
3. Ok, we're done creating the server. You should now see in Activesync's main screen your normal Activesync connection(s), and a new connection called Exchange Server.
4. Go back into the Menu, and lo and behold the Schedule option is now enabled! Go ahead and tap it!
5. You will see that both options in the Schedule screen may be set to Every 5 Minutes
6. Using the drop downs, change both the Peak times and Off-peak times boxes to Manually.
7. Press the OK button at the top right of the screen.
Congratulations! Activesync is now gagged from opening on it's own and ruining your life! Your work is not done just yet though - time to clean up and get rid of the now unwanted fake Exchange Server.
1. Go back into Activesync's Menu, then Tap Options.
2. Highlight Exchange Server, then tap Delete. A warning message will appear about removing files etc, but as you have no files associated with the fake Exchange Server, it's nothing to worry about - just tap Ok.
Edit: Some people have reported that settings "stick" better if you Do Not delete the fake server just leave it, it does not actually do anything anyway - it was just a way to set active sync to manual operation not automatic. Item 3 below, if you leave it in place will therefore show two Sync Connections i.e. the real and the fake.
3. The list will now only show your remaining PC Sync connection(s). Obviously do not delete these!"
You should also:
A
ensure Active sync is turned off fully after use. Use the likes of Magic Button say or HTC X Button to do this.
B
consider using a scheduler to perform a soft reset automatically say before any alarms go off in the morning. This ensures unwanted programmes like active sync and others do not crash the system when the alarms go off or crash the device when you try to switch on. SKSchema or xbar would fit the bill for this.
C
Avoid leaving device on charge overnight.
D
Running only one or two Today Plugins and avoiding some apps that like to synchronise automatically with internet sources push mail / weather etc. (although with a good neat set up these can operate ok)
E
ensure any applications required on wake up are installed to Main memory (today plug ins, wallpapers etc), with all others installed to SD Card
F
Do not overfill main memory Hermes performs better with a good bit of spare space.
G
Do NOT let your device go to sleep by itself! Always use the on/off button to put it in sleep mode. In fact I would go further and suggest you go to:
Start>settings>system>power>advanced and remove the ticks in the two little boxes.
Just remember to use that on off button. Of course the device should be able to sleep by itself BUT this XDA does not perform well and often crashes if you let it sleep automatically.
H
Always use a task manager to close running applications. You can go into settings, running programmes to do this but it is far easier to have running programmes shown in your task bar and an easy way to fully close them. (That is what a task manager does).
I
Regularly clear out the PIE cache or better still move your Internet Cache to the SD Card. Use a Registry Editor (PHM Registry Editor http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/)
PocketIE Cache in storage card
Create these folders:
\Storage Card\Pocket IE\Temporary Internet Files\Storage Card\Pocket IE\Cookies\Storage Card\Pocket IE\HistoryAdd the following registry keys, string data type:
[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]"Cache"="\Storage Card\Pocket IE\Temporary Internet Files""Cookies"="\Storage Card\Pocket IE\Cookies""History"="\Storage Card\Pocket IE\History"
Links
Magic Button: (Task Manager)
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
HTC X Button (Task Manager)
HTC X-Button.CAB
X BAR
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=20823
SKschema
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=20385
Mike
thats what i needed . thank you!!!
LuXx said:
is there a way to stop activesync from running in background on my 8525? my pda freezes every once in awhile and have problems with connecting to pc. to connect to pc i have to go to memory and shut off activesync before plugging in usb. i've tried to delete repllog.exe in the notification queue with no luck. help LuXx
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In addition to the fake server trick, I also saw last night something about turning off "advanced network functionality" in Start>Settings>Connections>USB to PC.
I just unchecked it within the last 24 hours, but I'm hoping it will have a positive effect on this kind of problem.
Just to clear this up, this *trick* will also stop activesync from launching even when I'm not connected via USB. I notice through out the day I will close activesync 5 or 6 times (I use magic button) it seems to like to launch on it's own, I suspect this auto scheduling was the cause.
yeah it does work well... the only time active sync pops up is right after a soft-reset (it's not in startup folder so i don't know where it's being lanuched from) and when you plug it into the computer (which is fine). Other than that it stays close and the phone runs a lot faster and has more free RAM when active sync is not running. Again, another no-brainer performance fix the OS and Phone Mfg'rs completely missed!
DirectPush?
But if I am using DirectPush, how does this help me?
perlmane said:
But if I am using DirectPush, how does this help me?
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Well is doesn't really as you need active sync running!
Mike
Wow. This is brilliant, thanks!
db
mikechannon said:
Well is doesn't really as you need active sync running!
Mike
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Something wierd happened. I had to do a hard reset. Since it recovered from that, I cannot use DirectPush anymore. The ActiveSync choices no longer list "As items arrive" as a choice. It only lists the time choices and manual. How do I restore the "As items arrive" option?
After hard-reset the activesync connection wth your pc is erased. Erase all activesync connections both on PC and on device and reconnect them via usb and after "pairing" you will have back your options. Prior that deselect 'advanced network functionality' in connections>USBtoPC
Teo2005 said:
After hard-reset the activesync connection wth your pc is erased. Erase all activesync connections both on PC and on device and reconnect them via usb and after "pairing" you will have back your options. Prior that deselect 'advanced network functionality' in connections>USBtoPC
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I did this and saw the "As items arrive" item appear and then leave the list of choices. Any other ideas?
Great Trick
mikechannon said:
Reducing lock-ups and freezing:
A key consideration here is the active sync application that is linked with many lock up problems - particularly overnight or during active syncs auto scheduling process.
A quick way to temporarily shut Active Sync down (as well as any other programmeds running in the background) would be say Magic Button or HTC X Button which are quicker than using the running programmes in the memory menu to do this.
However Active Sync can start again by itself via various scheduling routines. There is a way to prevent this known as the "Fake Server Trick":
That is a great help. My Cingular 8525 is much more stable after running the trick. However, I did notice that from time to time, Active Sync could be found running even after the "Fake Server Trick." Is this normal? Should I redo the "Fake Server Trick" from time to time or is once enough?
Sincerely,
Steve
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uhh..un-plug ur cable?
shapirosj said:
mikechannon said:
Reducing lock-ups and freezing:
A key consideration here is the active sync application that is linked with many lock up problems - particularly overnight or during active syncs auto scheduling process.
A quick way to temporarily shut Active Sync down (as well as any other programmeds running in the background) would be say Magic Button or HTC X Button which are quicker than using the running programmes in the memory menu to do this.
However Active Sync can start again by itself via various scheduling routines. There is a way to prevent this known as the "Fake Server Trick":
That is a great help. My Cingular 8525 is much more stable after running the trick. However, I did notice that from time to time, Active Sync could be found running even after the "Fake Server Trick." Is this normal? Should I redo the "Fake Server Trick" from time to time or is once enough?
Sincerely,
Steve
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There are one or two applications that you may run that can restart ASync, various mail apps, online time sync apps and yes plugging in the cable to do a manually state ASync. Once started AS contines to run at least until a soft reset or using your task manager, you shut it down again. So routinely after doing an AS it will need shutdown.
Whether you need to do another round of the Active Server Trick has been debated recently. It seems that for some folks if they follow up the procedure with the step that says to delete the Fake Server because its job is done; find later that doing this causes the wanted change to manual ASync not to stick.
As the fake server, if set up correctly, does not actually connect to anything, then those who wish may re run the trick. This time not deleting the fake server at the end.
Mike
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activesync still not working
After following the procedure with the "fake" server name, my sync does not work. In fact, I cannot locate the "exchange server" at all on the screen. Do I have to reload the cd-rom program from scratch? Any suggestions...
Thanks
abricko said:
yeah it does work well... the only time active sync pops up is right after a soft-reset (it's not in startup folder so i don't know where it's being lanuched from) .....
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Yep, I notice it's there after a soft reset as well. Is there a way to prevent that as well with a regedit?
I did the fake server trick, deleted the fake server, but didn't do a soft reset. I noticed that AS still loads on its own. I respecified the fake server but left it on this time. Hopefully it stays shut off...so annoying.
Linda
On my TouchHD, when I connect to my PC via ActiveSync, whether as a guest or doing a full sync, I find that my alarms are blocked - Tmail.exe can't open, Repllog can't open, alarms I know are there won't go. (They'll go on the desktop though.)
Often, the problem extends to all executables. The message is:
"Cannot open 'X'. A critical component is eaither missing or cannot start because program memory is unavailable. Tap Start > Settings > System Tab > Task Manager, stop programs that did not automatically stop, and try again."
or occasionally:
"Error starting 'X'" or "cannot execute X.exe"
When I disconnect, all access is immediately restored, no reset necessary.
Also interesting is the fact that some things running under Manila - the stock pages, say, or weather or even mail (!) - open up fine. Phone likewise, and related functions like the favourites page and the Contacts application behind it, are fine. However Opera and HTC album don't open, nor does the camera, or sound settings Advanced page.
This wasn't always the case; it's only started up in the past week or so. Which implies it was something I put on. Now, I'm one of those tweaking junkies that makes half a dozen changes a day, but I seem to recall playing around with Background4AllTabs, adding an analog clock to the home page, putting on and taking off MobileMagic, trying G-Alarm and settling on Klaxon instead, and various and sundry other wee bits. If any of this rings a bell with any of you I'd be grateful for ideas, theories, dirty jokes, whatever.
Many thanks.
having same issue. anyone have a solution to this?
I've had several problems with my new HD2.
The most recent and most worrying was it not coming out of sleep, pressing or holding the power button did not wake the device, nor did any other button or screen presses for that matter. I had to remove the battery in the end. It had happened overnight when I woke up this morning it wasn't working and then 20 minutes later when I got to work the same problem, charge is at about 71%
I read on another forum that there was a firmware fix for this on these forums but couldn't find anything...
The others are configuration problems im sure, I'm with T-Mobile (UK) and just selected TMobile during the setup wizard, all the basic stuff works like phone/sms/email (google and exchange) and browsing, but I've noticed twitter won't log in with any account...nor does MSN messenger, I've read somewhere that it's because some services expect the connection called "Internet" but with T-Mobile settings it gets renamed to "The Internet"...Still I changed the name of the service and it caused more problems than it fixed...is there a way to change what network that messenger and twitter use?
Other than these problems it's a really nice device, very pleased with it! Oh and great forums by the way, very helpful, the tips thread is fantastic.
*edit*
I should also add that I noticed sub folders in outlook don't sync, for example the inbox syncs fine with exchange 2003 but all my subfolders inside the inbox are all empty.
For the power problem see This thread . The problem may well be with the 'notification queue' and installing some software to manage this has helped a lot of people with the same problem
Your connection problems may be related to T-Mobile's connection settings, though I'm not certain as I don't use T-Mobile. It used to be that by default, T-Mobile add a Proxy Server entry in their connection settings. This is OK for standard email and surfing, but may not allow access to other services. The old trick was to simply remove the tick from the 'Proxy Server' tab in Settings/Connections/Connections (accessed from the Sense Settings tab, then Menu/Show all Settings.
For the Outlook sub folders, you need to go into your Messaging program, then hit 'Menu' then scroll the window up to see a 'Tools' submenu. From here you can access the 'Manage Folders' list where Inbox should have a '+' to allow it to expand.
Princess_Frosty said:
I've had several problems with my new HD2.
The most recent and most worrying was it not coming out of sleep, pressing or holding the power button did not wake the device, nor did any other button or screen presses for that matter. I had to remove the battery in the end. It had happened overnight when I woke up this morning it wasn't working and then 20 minutes later when I got to work the same problem, charge is at about 71%
I read on another forum that there was a firmware fix for this on these forums but couldn't find anything...
The others are configuration problems im sure, I'm with T-Mobile (UK) and just selected TMobile during the setup wizard, all the basic stuff works like phone/sms/email (google and exchange) and browsing, but I've noticed twitter won't log in with any account...nor does MSN messenger, I've read somewhere that it's because some services expect the connection called "Internet" but with T-Mobile settings it gets renamed to "The Internet"...Still I changed the name of the service and it caused more problems than it fixed...is there a way to change what network that messenger and twitter use?
Other than these problems it's a really nice device, very pleased with it! Oh and great forums by the way, very helpful, the tips thread is fantastic.
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I should also add that I noticed sub folders in outlook don't sync, for example the inbox syncs fine with exchange 2003 but all my subfolders inside the inbox are all empty.
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I used to have the exact same problem with "waking up" the device, until I removed some program links from the StartUp folder.
It seems to me that for some weird reason that folder is processed each time the device comes back from suspend mode and some of the apps in there just didn't play right with my HD2.
Or maybe the apps started in there just don't like the suspend mode in general.
So after I had reduced the number of apps started upon boot-up to an absolute minimum, I no longer have any issues with waking my HD2 up.
Also, you should implement the GPRS reg hack to reduce battery consumption.
I found that auto-disabling the GPRS data connection after 5 minutes inactivity made all the difference on my HD2 for preserving battery power.
Finally, disable that brain damaged "two step" unlock procedure of the HTC stock ROM either via a Registry Hack or by flashing Tom's or Leo's ROM from XDA (requires SPBL to be installed first).
For most of these tweaks you can also try the "BsB Tweaks" program (also to be found on XDA), w/o the need to flash or hack anything.
Sorry, but I don't use T-Mobile, so I can't help you there.
Thank you both, I've fixed my outlook now and looking through the other fixes. Much appreciated!
NeilM said:
For the power problem see This thread . The problem may well be with the 'notification queue' and installing some software to manage this has helped a lot of people with the same problem
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WM is still troubled with the notification queue problem? I used to have problems with that on my first WM phone, when my alarms wouldn't go off in the morning. I gave up in the end, and so never used my device as an alarm clock. And having come from Psions that had (and still do) the best alarm clock and calendar feature, I found it really disappointing.
I'll have to have a look at that thread. Thanks.
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WM is still troubled with the notification queue problem? I used to have problems with that on my first WM phone, when my alarms wouldn't go off in the morning. I gave up in the end, and so never used my device as an alarm clock. And having come from Psions that had (and still do) the best alarm clock and calendar feature, I found it really disappointing.
I'll have to have a look at that thread. Thanks.
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Agreed- it is a lot better than it used to be (till now!) but I resolutely refuse to use the built in Alarms due to their unreliability, and have been using Chronos for the last 2 years (much better than Spb Time, if less graphically pleasing!)
I dont have alarms set only for ones generated at work through calendar items, so I disabled calendar item sync
Yup...unticking proxy server lets MSN connect, again big thanks for this!
Anyone know the implications of this, will it stop other services from working or end up charging me more or something (on an unlimited data tarrif from tmob)
Princess_Frosty said:
Yup...unticking proxy server lets MSN connect, again big thanks for this!
Anyone know the implications of this, will it stop other services from working or end up charging me more or something (on an unlimited data tarrif from tmob)
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It shouldn't make any difference- T-Mobile just use it to limit the connectivity to their own servers, but there's no penalty for not using the 'feature'.
NeilM said:
For the power problem see This thread . The problem may well be with the 'notification queue' and installing some software to manage this has helped a lot of people with the same problem
Your connection problems may be related to T-Mobile's connection settings, though I'm not certain as I don't use T-Mobile. It used to be that by default, T-Mobile add a Proxy Server entry in their connection settings. This is OK for standard email and surfing, but may not allow access to other services. The old trick was to simply remove the tick from the 'Proxy Server' tab in Settings/Connections/Connections (accessed from the Sense Settings tab, then Menu/Show all Settings.
For the Outlook sub folders, you need to go into your Messaging program, then hit 'Menu' then scroll the window up to see a 'Tools' submenu. From here you can access the 'Manage Folders' list where Inbox should have a '+' to allow it to expand.
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saffron walden and you actually get signal? went there to use three circles recording studio (opposit the barracks) last month when the really bad snowstorm hit and couldn't get signal anywhere! lol
paulking said:
saffron walden and you actually get signal? went there to use three circles recording studio (opposit the barracks) last month when the really bad snowstorm hit and couldn't get signal anywhere! lol
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Yes it is a bit flaky around here! That is why I now have a Vodafone Access Gateway femtocell at home, so I now have 5 bars of 3G signal!