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Dear forum members,
I have problems with setting up the com port with my GPS bluetooth device (Nemerix chip set) and my navigation software (Navigon 4 or 5).
I see the device in the bluetooth settings of WM5 and am able to connect to the device. I am able to select the serial port feature and create a new outgoing connection to either com port 6 or 7 with the device.
I am not able to select this com port in the navigation software.
I am not able to see this port in PHM device manager
Yes, I am able to see the device in "Glopus GPS" tool (but only because I am able to have a list of all 10 com ports)
My questions:
Any idea why the com port is not showing up in the navigation software?
Do you know any other device manager or (serial) com port tool in order to get this com port working the right way?
The thing is, this all worked on WM2003 on a Magician, so is this now a new cool WM5 feature that the bluetooth com ports are not showing up the right way :?
Thanks for your help in advance, Saniwat
Re: Bluetooth com port problems with GPS mouse (Navigon 4 +
saniwat said:
I have problems with setting up the com port with my GPS bluetooth device (Nemerix chip set) and my navigation software (Navigon 4 or 5).
I see the device in the bluetooth settings of WM5 and am able to connect to the device. I am able to select the serial port feature and create a new outgoing connection to either com port 6 or 7 with the device.
I am not able to select this com port in the navigation software.
I am not able to see this port in PHM device manager
Yes, I am able to see the device in "Glopus GPS" tool (but only because I am able to have a list of all 10 com ports)
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Many other people had this problem before - so i am, too. Here is the solution:
saniwat said:
My questions:
Any idea why the com port is not showing up in the navigation software?
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No idea. But i know, how you can make it visible: There are three inis in your Navigon directory: defaults.ini, navlib.ini and spgps.ini
Edit the files with the total commander. In each file you will find an entry like: Com-Port or Serial Port. Delete the number behind that statement and write 6 or 7 respectively where you have mapped your Mouse to.
Start the Navigon and it will work. It is very easy.
saniwat said:
Do you know any other device manager or (serial) com port tool in order to get this com port working the right way?
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Alternatively you can use the virtcom tool from this page:
http://www.navifriends.com/
saniwat said:
The thing is, this all worked on WM2003 on a Magician, so is this now a new cool WM5 feature that the bluetooth com ports are not showing up the right way :?
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The BT Com Port is in WM05 a resource of a certain program. Each time you start a Porgram wich needs BT Support, it starts automatically the BT interface. You dont need to setup a connection automatically
There is a more convenient way to do this:
Open the prefs.ini (configuration file) and enter there:
Code:
[gps]
comport = 6
receiver = 0
receiver_status = 1
baudrate = 9600
(receiver --> 0 means without TMC)
I have taken this solution...
To hide or show the GPS connection in the connections panel
* The settings are at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings'
* The 'Hide' DWORD value should be deleted to show the panel and 'x' to hide the panel
* The 'Group' DWORD value should be set to '2' to show the panel and deleted to hide the panel
For example, to show the GPS connection in the connectionss panel
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\Hide is deleted
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\Group = 2
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To save these changes...
press the powerbotton for the suspendmode. Let the Wizzard sleeping for 10 sec., after make a reboot.
You will be able to choose a new "virt." com port, and this port is visible for all navigation softwares.
Hello all,
I've just faced a strange problem.
The USB sync had always worked well, but once I applyed a few reg tweaks (shown on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other) for WM5 and then ...
No more USB at all...No recognition, nothing
The only time the pc detected the phone was during a reset (a few seconds only)
I had even done a few shutdown/restart cycles still the same thing ... no USB at all.
So I did a rollback of the registry settings and ... my USB is back and working after a reset ...
Here are the settings I applied to the phone :
Disable 3gp (video) size limit
Add GPS settings icon
Add Lunar Calendar mode to Calendar
Disable charging over USB
Make WM5 ask where to install a program (1)
Make WM5 keep CAB files around after installing (1)
Show Wireless Today item
I'll try to sort out witch of them produced this problem and keep you posted.
Did anyone already met such a behaviour ?
Regards,
And the winner is ...
I sorted out the registry setting that locked out the USB
Add GPS settings icon
If you have a GPS device, you can add a GPS settings icon to your Start > Settings menu using:
HKLM\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\Group = 2 (DWORD decimal)
HKLM\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\redirect <-- delete, or rename, this value
Note that '2' stands for the Connections tab, '1' is System and '0' would be Personal
But it will become "active" after doing the following things :
set the GPS program port to COM8
set the GPS connection port to COM7
and tick the automatic GPS management (recommended)
and then do a full reboot ...
then
No more USB,
UPDATE
To solve it, you'll have to rollback the settings
set the GPS program port to None
set the GPS connection port to None
and tick the automatic GPS management (recommended)
, remove the registry (to avoid another time the problem)
and reboot
Regards,
Fx.
added a note to the wiki - weird, no idea why that would affect USB.. haven't read any other reports from people who have enabled that GPS icon either.
That said - I don't see what the point of the GPS applet is, especially for those who don't -have- a GPS device to be used with their Wizard %)
I'm not sure if it's just me but I don't have a GPS settings icon inside the settings folder. My other PDA which has WM5 and GPS has the GPS settings so you can change the com software port, hardware port, etc. So does the P3600 just not have it or am I missing it? Oh and I'm also updated to the latest ROM from HTC's website.
search this forum. there is a reg key for it
Most apps don't need it, especially with the newer ROMs (Radio 1.38 onwards)
Just point your GPS apps at COM9 (the GPS Hardware port) at 57600 baud, and the software driver will intercept the call and provide the signal.
Older ROM's still need the GPS registry fix to show the CP
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Add GPS settings icon
If you have a GPS device, you can add a GPS settings icon to your Start > Settings menu using:
HKLM\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\Group = 2 (DWORD decimal)
HKLM\ControlPanel\GPS Settings\redirect <-- delete, or rename, this value
Note that '2' stands for the Connections tab, '1' is System and '0' would be Personal
Note also that this has reportedly disabled one person's USB connectivity. To restore, set "GPS Program Port = None", "GPS Connection Port = None", "Automatic GPS Management = on"
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I have done this but I have tried 3 programs (1 was TomTom) and it can't get a fix
LSmith4285 said:
I have done this but I have tried 3 programs (1 was TomTom) and it can't get a fix
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Be more patient.... and make sure you're in an open space... (that means uninterupted view at the sky from y'r device).
The very first fix ever can take up to 10 minutes or more sometimes (that's a 'cold' start).
Yeah it actually does take a while to get a fix the first time.. It took me about 5 mins to get a fix, but after about 5 more mins after getting a fix I was getting full bars on tomtom.
The quoted registry fix is incorrect/incomplete for the P3600
Go to HKLM/ControlPanel/GPS Settings which has 2 keys; Default and Hide.
Open the Hide key and change the Dword to 0 then Save.
This will place a GPS Setting Icon in the 2nd tab of Settings.
In Settings, changing both ports to 'none' will disable GPS. The hardware port must be set to COM9 and the baud can be 57600 or 115200.
Once those are set, any GPS program can be pointed to COM9 and they should get a fix within about 5 minutes with a clear sky view.
If you want to share the signal between more than one app, you need to point the app at the software port; most apps don't list GPD1 (the default) as a valid soft port, so you need to change the software port to COM8 and set the GPS apps to seek a signal there. TomTom and Co-pilot however, can't open the software port by themselves, so it's safer to leave them with exclusive access on the COM9 hardware port.
On the P3600 Radio ROM 1.38 onwards, life is a lot easier, as everything can be pointed at COM9, and the software correctly distributes the signal as needed, which it should have done from the start.
if you just don't wanna be messed up digging in the registry, download trinityhacks 0.3 and you can activate the gps icon, which is not needed, because the settings of the gps are preset. downtown of Budapest it takes more than 10 mins to get a fix, but after that it just works fine.
In the power settings on the WM side, I can set to "Turn off device if not used for x minutes". When the device turns off, how do you turn it back on?
The only thing that I have been able to figure out, is to use the Shift Control on Vista side to Reset SnapVUE. Am I missing something?
I am running ThaiHugos snapvue+gps rom.
i believe it's auto...
i believe that when you press the button to go to the snapview side it gets swiched on automatically...
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i believe that when you press the button to go to the snapview side it gets swiched on automatically...
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That is the first thing that I tried. And the screen remains black. I also tried to press the button to go to the snapview side, and then slide the power button (the same as bringing Vista out of sleep). No go.
Did you try pressing it twice? When the screen powers off, pressing the "Shift" button will shift the device to Vista but the screen will be blank if Vista is not running. Pressing it again shifts it back to SnapVue and the screen should come back again.
At least that is what happens with the stock rom!
Regards,
Dave
Go to settings -->connections-->USB to PC and check "enable advanced network functionality" for some reason this causes problems with resuming.
sniveri said:
Go to settings -->connections-->USB to PC and check "enable advanced network functionality" for some reason this causes problems with resuming.
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Thanks! Works again. But it is a bummer as I cannot use USBTool when this is unchecked.
If someone would make new version of usb-tool that unchecks that setting if it is registrysetting and maybe sets "turn of device if not used" to "never" when usbtool is in use. When querying usbtool to close it would undo those changes. This would not be hard to do after all?
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This would not be hard to do after all?
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In that case, do let us know when you've done it.
Pantaloonie said:
In that case, do let us know when you've done it.
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I have done launcer that first sets Enable advanced network functionality unchecked via registry and then launches USBTool. After USBTool Exits my launcher sets Enable advanced network functionality to checked state. I did`nt find this registrykey for device turning off yet. I had to do own launcher because I did`nt know where to get sources for USBTool.
I didn`t find correct settings for that "turn off device if not used"-setting so I just made Power-settings to appear Before and after USBTool is executed so I can check and uncheck it easily when I want to use USBTool. Now it works everytime.
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I didn`t find correct settings for that "turn off device if not used"-setting so I just made Power-settings to appear Before and after USBTool is executed so I can check and uncheck it easily when I want to use USBTool. Now it works everytime.
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How did you make it appear before and after?
Thanks
Ram
Removed the tool for a while..
I withdraw my sarcastic message telling you to make the tool yourself!
This has still one problem.. After rebooting WM side you have to manually go check and uncheck USB to PC setting and after that this works.. Sorry about it
EDIT: It is someway related how the USB-drivers are loaded? After those are once loaded you can switch between them or something, I don`t really know.. But something like this would be nice to get to the next generation of USBTool.
To get this "USB to PC" functionality work there is few registry settings that is changed. First of all there is driver setting that set is the RNDIS or Serial_Class used. Changing this checks and unchecks USB to PC checkbox. This can be found at:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers
There is DefaultClientDriver what changes between RNDIS and Serial_Class.
Other settings are found at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\ + some number. For USB Driver-settings they change between 50-135(on my machine.. I don`t know about others). For example settings could be found at:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\120
If you have unchecked "USB to PC" setting, you should have values:
Code:
BusName: USBFN_1_0, REG_SZ
BusParent: 5543120, REG_DWORD
Hnd: 5544944, REG_DWORD
Key: \Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\Serial_Class, REG_SZ
Name: COM8: , REG_SZ
For me those BusParent and Hnd settings are something that I don`t understand. Those values varies each time you check and uncheck USB to PC CheckBox. If this could be found out after that you could start rnaap.exe and rapiclnt.exe with correct parameters and after that USBTool should connect right away. So does anyone know how to know what should be used for BusParent and Hnd values. If those are wrong I get error when connecting to "`USB".
Easier solution would be to just show user this USB to PC -window for first place but it has some bug that it closes at the same second when opened with cplmain.cpl, 28 command.
Pantaloonie said:
I withdraw my sarcastic message telling you to make the tool yourself!
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Only sarcastic thing is that I shared cab which did not do the job actually. It worked for me 15 times but after that I was in trouble again.. but after all device turning off-settings worked fine.
Tried also with IOCTL_UFN_ENUMERATE_AVAILABLE_CLIENTS and IOCTL_UFN_GET_CURRENT_CLIENT. But available clients returns only current client so this was a dead-end too.. I have to give up.
Just a quick question, does the stock ROM have power off after X enabled?
I have disabed power off and have no probems now with any change in battery life (using thaihugo's myself) and just shutdown the screen with the screen switch button. Always comes up then and have no data disconnects.
Just wondered if this should be the norm as never looked at the default setting on the stock ROM.
Hello,
I am looking for an app to toggle my gps on/off. Can anyone help me with this?
I have the issue that when I have my phone in flight modus and am out of the country both GSM and GPS are disabled. I would like the GSM to be disabled in favor of GPS to be enabled. I wan't this option for my Tom Tom navigation when out of the country,so it does not get interrupted by phone calls or smsses.
Kind regards
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html
Im also looking for a simple on/off toggle button for the gps.
Since you can have that in android i figure it should exist something similar created for wm.
I have only found wm homescreen plugins so far but since thats no use when you running manila or CHT it not even worth downloading.
Looks like ill have to keep searching....
p00ltergeist said:
Im also looking for a simple on/off toggle button for the gps.
Since you can have that in android i figure it should exist something similar created for wm.
I have only found wm homescreen plugins so far but since thats no use when you running manila or CHT it not even worth downloading.
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You're right.
I'll test it under pure WM and check the registry while toggling on opr off : maybe I'll be able to detect what keys to change to get the same results directly, and possibly make a CHT widget.
Edit :
Found this one here :
http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/Samsung_i600
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver]
"IsEnabled"=DWORD:00000001
-> change to 0 to toggle off ?
I'll check if it works... And if it actually saves battery life.
A Possible Work Around
I could not get the app from the link above to work on my HD2. It said it installed successfully, but I could find no exe or shortcut for it anywhere on my HD2. I searched a couple of app forums here and found nothing else.
Here is a possible solution although it is not a one-click solution like most toggles. It is based on this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645916
Using a text editor, paste this into a new file:
30#ctlpnl.exe AGPSSettingsCPL.cpl - location services settings
Save the file with the name such as GPS Toggle.lnk (that's a small "L" in lnk).
Copy the shortcut file to the Windows/Start Menu/Programs folder. From there you can access it using the Start button/menu. Also, depending on the UI, you may be able to create a button on your main screen. I have Co0kie's Home Tab which provides the ability to create buttons on the home screen. (Co0kie's Home Tab has a number of toggle switches, but not one for GPS.)
This shortcut will bring up the Location screen from Settings. This may or may not be what you want. To be honest, I could not find a place that says "turn on/off GPS."
AGPS only allows to use available data network to update the satellites positions database in order to speed up satellites location.
It should have nothing to do with having the GPS receiver actually turned on or off...
In fact, it's turned off on my HD2, and I'm still able to use the GPS.
I'm currently trying to evaluate the effect the above registry value change has on battery lifetime...
Edit :
OK, at least your post put me on a track :
The registry tweak actually switches on or off the "Automatic GPS management" checkbox in the "Access" panel from the "External GPS" applet in WM "System" settings.
You can still use a shortcut as the one you posted, but it should contain 25#ctlpnl.exe cplmain.cpl,25,2 instead (GPS settings - Access).
Now the registry trick has strictly the same effect, and can be made out of a simple MortScript - then a CHT switch, too.
The only problem is I couldn't notice a better battery consumption, actually...