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Maybe this has been discussed before but no one tried to develop the idea.
well instead of S2U, i prefer to have a gesture that i choose to unlock the device... so no one can unlock it other than I... if im dont have these programming skills
anyone is able to do it?! it can be a modified version of A_C's S2U2...
karim099 said:
Maybe this has been discussed before but no one tried to develop the idea.
well instead of S2U, i prefer to have a gesture that i choose to unlock the device... so no one can unlock it other than I... if im dont have these programming skills
anyone is able to do it?! it can be a modified version of A_C's S2U2...
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Hahaha! Shouldn't that been called Gesture2Unlock?
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Hahaha! Shouldn't that been called Gesture2Unlock?
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whatever G2U ...
I like the idea of this
Cool thinkin...
No passworded needed, just a gesture.
Someone needs to copy the Microsoft Origami thingy where you unlock by tapping a certain sequence on a picture of your choice, with more security gained by moving to a smaller grid size.
ell, honestly, if you delete the images from your S2U2 directory, that should accomplish the same thing. You would just have to remember where to slide from. Or use your DPAD.
lawmangrant, i think you're missing a handy side-effect of having G2U: you can still view the today screen. I imagine that you can view the today screen, but not be able to do anything until you gesture. If anyone uses PointUI, it's kinda like the builtin lock. You see the main screen until you tap, upon which the lock screen comes up. It's pretty nice (personally use s2u2 instead) but G2U has potential uses.
It's a good idea, especially if you don't have the instructions right on the screen, it's a good locker to keep people out of your phone.
It should be Gesture2Unlock (or G2U for short) and it was discussed in the Kaiser forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362231&highlight=gesture
A_C, the author or S2U2 was contacted, but he didn't think he could do it, as you can see from the thread...
I still like the idea.
I have a program in mind that does exactly what you want...
hm.. not exactly...
you have to tap to 4 or 5 different points on your touchscreen to unlock your phone...
but I don´t know the name at the moment....
I´ll try to find it....
This is a great idea.......
strange !!! walking down the street today i had this exact thought
may be some day!!!!
This was good, but doesnt work anymore...
http://softava.com/archive/pp/otp_features.html#
interesting. Would be very similair to taking a biometric of a persons signature. presumably tho one wouldn't want the signature to be drawn as you gesture2unlock, but instead "draw" onto an invisible notepad.
its no easy process (have researched biometrics) as the important part if the learning/recognition algorythm which will probably involve some neural network coding (ouch but fun).
What you need is something like this!!!
http://bip.golana.pub.ro/~mmihai/sign/index.html.
I've emailed Mihail about this (the author), pointing him to this post. I will post his reply as soon as it arrives.
Here's my email:
Dear Mihail,
I came across your website whilst looking for clues as to how we might implement a fellow forum contributor’s idea on xda-developers.com (here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370632&page=2)
His idea was to unlock a pda using a gesture on the touch screen. To my mind that mean signature which lead me to search for some algorithms on the net. Your implementation was particularly interesting as it seems quick to operate, has low memory footprint and could work on a low spec machine (such are many pda’s).
I was wondering if you implemented such a system, or if the algorithm you have developed has been release for others to use, commercially or non-profit.
Your input into the discussion would be highly valuable.
Best wishes
Sean
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ell, honestly, if you delete the images from your S2U2 directory, that should accomplish the same thing. You would just have to remember where to slide from. Or use your DPAD.
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lawmangrant, i think you're missing a handy side-effect of having G2U: you can still view the today screen. I imagine that you can view the today screen, but not be able to do anything until you gesture. If anyone uses PointUI, it's kinda like the builtin lock. You see the main screen until you tap, upon which the lock screen comes up. It's pretty nice (personally use s2u2 instead) but G2U has potential uses.
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I see pluses and minuses to this approach as opposed to using s2u2 with the deleted slide graphics.
If you want true privacy when someone picks up your phone, you wouldn't really want them to see your today screen especially if it contains appointment and tasks info, etc. That's where I think using a modified s2u2 would be better.
If you don't have appointment info on your screen or nothing that is "dynamic" or constantly changing except the clock, then you could skin s2u2 to "match" your today screen and place the clock exactly where it is on your today screen. For example if you have HTC home as your today screen, you can skin s2u2 clock to match the position and font as HTC home and then take a screenshot and modify it to a wallpaper, cutting out the clock par. The tricky part is the missed call and sms counter. S2u2 has the potential to disply that info but to replicate that look of htc home would require major changes, probably requiring A_C's help?
Of course if our devices had the horsepower, we could modify s2u2 to just take the screenshot of the today screen and load it as a wallpaper everytime it starts up, maybe a mortscript, but it would probably would be too slow realistically.
Im glad that u liked the idea... A_C said that he doesnt have the skills to do it.. but im sure he can help...
i don't mind if the appointments info appears on the screen, but i prefer no one can access all other applications... typing a password takes time... especially when activated side by side with S2U2...
Why a signature recognition? How about a gesture system like the one found in firefox plugins:
https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/39
https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/12
They're based on eight directions - four sideways and four diagonal.
Directions are defined as:
U - up
D - down
L - left
R - right
7 - up/left
9 - up/right
1 - down/left
3 - down/right
So to program a gesture you just need to input the directions of strokes it consists of.
For example URDL would mean drawing a rectangle starting from bottom left, and then going up, right, down, left. You can also describe more complicated gestures that way - R2D1L7U9R would mean drawing a circle starting from its top point and moving right.
In my opinion biometric algorithms don't make much sense, since they would need a styluys to work - try to draw your signature using a finger
Simplified gestures should work with finger as well as stylus, and should still provide more than enough security.
Great minds think alike.
What I wanted was a way to use touch to unlock the device very easily without it being easy to copy. I also wanted data to be safe should the device be reset.
I thought of using the standard S2U and just using a skin which didn't make it clear how to unlock so as to deter casual snoops.
There must be a way to do this! If no-one comes up with something soon then I'll dust off my programming books and give it a try.
the new Ftouch Flo a.k.a FtouchSL has some new gesturing features ( like corners )..maybe this would be useful
Hello, me does not know how to too much or put that then I puts it here.
I look for an application for locked automatically the device at the end of defined time.
Kind S2U but widely lighter which makes only the locking as when we rest on locked which is has the origin present in WM.
Thank you.
go to start > settings > Today and select Device lock..now return to today screen and you will notice Device Lock...enjoy
This method is not automatic... and we cannot adjust the time
See my post on FM lol !
I saw but it does not work
I would like something like this too. S2U actually keeps my sbp time from working correctly (mutes sound.....which for alarms kinda defeats the purpose)
S2U is too heavy to a lot of level (RAM, battery...)
try these mini S2U analogs. They're pretty small.
mini S2U analogs?? What is it?
Hi,
Here is mini S2U2.
@+
Hi, I personally use a past version of s2u2 called Slide and I launch with batterystatus everytime the screen turned off. That method allow recover the RAM used for the Slide because this program isnt run in background.
First alpha version 0.0.1 (07/29/2008)
Hi guys,
in the attachment you will find the first alpha version. It is just for testing!
Functions:
- Start/Stop Diamond Shaker Service
- Scroll left/right on HTC Album with tilting
- At the moment it works only on Portrait-Modus and only if you Diamond is not totally upright.
Installation instructions:
- just copy all the extracted files in one folder on your Diamond
- run "Diamond Shaker.exe" not "Diamond Shaker Service.exe"!!!
- click on "Start", wait until service is running and click on Exit.
If you like my work I would be glad if you donate a cup of coffee for me!
A cup of coffee for me
Received Donations:
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2.50 EUR: busta.rhymes
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Thank you very much!
Best regards,
Sascha
Hi guys,
i think my Diamond Profile Switcher should just be for switching vibration mode and volume on.
So I decided to develope an own application for everything else you want to have, when shaking your device!
So let me know, what I should implement!
Hi, ur profil switcher is great. I was asking myself if it was possible, to use the sensor in HTC Album, to view next photo by shaking the phone, like in WM7.
Or, to wake up the device.
Thanks for your work.
Wake up would be great....
Appreciate the effort.
What about switching to home if you shake while in an app.
Or better, close the current app.
the "x" is not easy to be touched with a finger...
And if shake at home, the profile will be switched
(shake the apps away )
Seems someone is becoming the un-crowned king of the Diamond.
So, honestly, how did you extracted the accelaration as GSEN makers would not release any info?
the ultimate Shaker : a selection of vertical - horizontal movement being linked to a list of possible actions.
Man, you ARE good!
TF3D, Shaker , the GSEN(credit to SKVV).... our Diamonds become step by step GREAT device.
HTC... you can learn a lot on the Diamond forum
Very good idea !
I have tested it and it works.... but only 1 time, onlyy when you launch the application.
For sure you'll fix it or maybe I am doing something wrong.
Thanks for that
also answering to calls with a specific shake will be nice or scrolling trough contacts or callog by tilting the diamond
maybe this thread sould be made Sticky
I vote for shake to wake up !
my vote for wake up too and for shake to see the next picture in the htc album, great ideas!! and thank you very much for your apps
+1 for shake to wake up and shake to close apps. The x button is hard to get by finger. this way our touch will become easy touch
I like the shakeSMS application of nokia phones: when you have a new SMS, you just have to shake the phone to view the sms, and then shake again to return to the homepage/homescreen.
A vote for Wakeup on shaking device also (it would be nice if add some effect like blurring after wakeup and start to getting clear, like the one seen in WM7)
+1 to close apps
+1 for shake to wake up and shake to close apps. The x button is hard to get by finger. this way our touch will become easy touch
+1 more
for shake to wake up and shake to close apps.
Custom Shaker
In my oponion it would let you to choose from a list of functions and might let you switch with an config app.
My suggestions for this functions are:
- Wake up and Unlook
- Anwer call - End Call
- Close Apps
- Change Profiles
- Next Track in WMP
- Next Station in Radio
- Download Weather in Weather Tab
- Launch custom applications from installed ones.
And so much others posibilities.
And if you go for GOLD Medal, the perfect shake applications could do the function depending the context, if you are receiving a call, shake in this moment will anwer the call.. if you are listening music on WMP, shake will skip track... and so no....
Thanks and keep doing this GREAT Work.
Nikitto & Axl79. NiAx Team.
I definitely think that context based shaking would be the best possible option. It makes the most sense intuitively, and even though I don't have my diamond yet, I'm immensely impressed by what goes on here!
Yeah, context based shaking would be very cool!
Also i think it would be nice not run just ONE activity on shaking, so that you have a list in which you can add all implemented features (run other application, lock phone, switch display on, etc.) and they will all run after shaking.
Okay, now my two cents. What about an onscreen dialog, now you move the cursor with the gsensor to the menu entry you want and shake to accept, or double move in one direction. something like that.
I know it might be asked a bit much, but...
...on the one hand I like the Touch 3D, but what I really hate is that is blocks all of my today screen. Where do I put phoneAlarm for example? This application is just essential!
Would it be possible to extract the single parts of the Touch 3D application (e. g. contacts, email, program launcher, etc.) and convert these into separate panels for the X1?
Alternatively, would it be possible to get rid of the home screen of Touch 3D, only leaving the slide bar and the other screens? That way we could use the today plug-ins we like and keep the slide bar on the bottom to easily access weather, contacts, etc.
I am not a programmer and have no clue about how much or little effort that would be or if it is possible at all.
Here in that section you can find how to transform the entire Touch 3D HD into a single panel...check the main posts!
This might be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
Thanks you two for your reply.
I already read through the posts and tried Touch 3D as Panel and as application only.
Having it run as a panel is just not convenient as most of the time I tend to use my windows today screen anyhow.
And to run it as an applications kills of my own today screen.
Actually all I want is:
Resize the home screen of Touch 3D so that at least one other application fits on the today screen?
(Ideally remove everything from the home screen of Touch 3D apart from the slide bar)
I use a program called secondtoday to switch between touchflo and other plugins. It works very well. search for it to find the details
Hi
Are there any options to show more appointments on the lockscreen than ONE?
One event is a little bit less for a good overview.
Thanks for help.
Hi!
I don't know much about WM 6.5 default lock screen. But I use S2U2 and you can configure it to show several (I guess it's up to 7) appointments in its lock screen.
i mean the HTC Sence Lockscreen:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs...ivewriter/htchd2review_b4f2/lock-screen_4.jpg
regards
cms said:
i mean the HTC Sence Lockscreen:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs...ivewriter/htchd2review_b4f2/lock-screen_4.jpg
regards
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They know what you mean, which is why they suggested slide2unlock. It's a replacement for the WINDOWS lock screen (not HTC), that does what you ask.
Just to check whether anyone tested the Slide2Unlock application on WM.5 or HD2?
I try to do a search in this forum but it seems that only the old version is available and nobody is developing that application anymore.
chongbh said:
Just to check whether anyone tested the Slide2Unlock application on WM.5 or HD2?
I try to do a search in this forum but it seems that only the old version is available and nobody is developing that application anymore.
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Err, not true. The thread you want is in the Development & Hacking Forum. To download you need to access AC's website (the author) which is one of the download links within the relevant thread.
WB
wacky.banana said:
Err, not true. The thread you want is in the Development & Hacking Forum. To download you need to access AC's website (the author) which is one of the download links within the relevant thread.
WB
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My friend told me that he saw some of the HTC Device using the WM6.5 have a better unlock screen than the HD2 or Leo which will show the Number of SMS and Missed Calls details on the lock screen instead of the numbering on the lock button.
Managed to find this program to replace the stock lock and unlock screen, you can display number of SMS, MMS, Emails or Missed Calls instead of the number beside the Lock Icon.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
well, s2u2 is nice for XDA Herald, but not for the HD2.
The standard-lockscreen on the HD2 is much pretty nicer than the s2u2 for me.
are there no reg-hacks on xda-developers???
I totally agree with cms. The windows mobile lockscreen is excellent but it only shows one damn appointment! Surely this has got to be possible?
airmax95 said:
I totally agree with cms. The windows mobile lockscreen is excellent but it only shows one damn appointment! Surely this has got to be possible?
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Yeah, I too like the standard lock screen, would be nice if it showed more appointments though.
Not keen on installing S2U2.
Would be amazing if someone modded the lock screen.
I installed S2U2 on my HD2 and agreed on most of the comments. The standard lock screen looks better but is too basic. The S2U2 has all the info I needed but I cannot get rid of the standard windows one so I ended up having 2 unlock screen now which is annoying. Does anyone know how to disable the standard one?
veej said:
I installed S2U2 on my HD2 and agreed on most of the comments. The standard lock screen looks better but is too basic. The S2U2 has all the info I needed but I cannot get rid of the standard windows one so I ended up having 2 unlock screen now which is annoying. Does anyone know how to disable the standard one?
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BSB Tweaks does that.
Or Settings>Security>block phone> untick block screen.
But in my opinion s2u2 is better, it shows the sms, mms, email, and tasks that original htc dont
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Just as a matter of interest, do you guys who say you don't like S2U2 know you can customise it by putting in your own wallpapers and/or gifs? You can even have the wallpaper change at regular intervals, giving you a fresh look whenever you wish.
So what you can do, if you wish, is to have a wallpaper that closely resembles the standard lock's wallpaper but sat in S2U2. You then get a better lock application with the look you are after.
WB
PS: If you knew all this but still like the standard item then ignore me.
I like the standard lock screen and would very much like more than 1 appt to be shown. I have tried S2u2 but i find it a bit bloated now, it is very capable and works but i just find it too big/bloated.
Is there a way we could tweak the MS lock screen?
toyjeep said:
BSB Tweaks does that.
Or Settings>Security>block phone> untick block screen.
But in my opinion s2u2 is better, it shows the sms, mms, email, and tasks that original htc dont
regards
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Thanks. Interestingly I cannot find the block phone function under Security so I disable it through S2U2.
As it happens I was also fiddling with the latest version of S2U2 yesterday evening. Hadn't used it since I had my TP.
I'm running XannyTech's latest rom and when I use S2U2 as a replacement for the win6.5 lock, my Manila sliding tabs on the bottom slide behind the bottom bar where the softkeys are displayed on.
Anybody seen this before? I seem to remember that there was a little program to correct that but can't find it back.
Tried fiddling with S2U2' settings but disabling bottom and top bar did not help either.
if anybody knows how to correct that, would be great to hear.
ps: when uninstalling S2U2 and soft reset puts the manila sliding tabs back where they should be...
DicE
S2U2 is definitely the way to go if you want to configure the lockscreen to add more calendar entries. But I never got the hang of using the alert bubbles sitting in the bottom right corner of the screen as they were too hard to press with my thumb, one-handed.
I posted in the S2U2 thread about this but the suggestion there was to go back to the original WM lockscreen. Which I did.
I too prefer the standard Lock screen except would love it to show more Calendar items and perhaps Birthdays. The configure page is really limited but better this than someting too bloated for a lock screen.