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Poor build quality.

I see other people have posted the problem with the stylus coming loose over time.
I also noticed today that the paint inside the ie button and to a certain extent the messaging button (the buttons above the screen) has been removed, it seems due to taking the device out of the holder all the time.
Anyone else think this is realy poor
Paul

yes i too think its a little lack-lustre.
the internet and messaging buttons logo's have both lost 90% of their paintwork.
i think it wont be too long until my keyboard becomes a little too easy to open. after all its only two little plastic notches which cause it to "snap in and out" once they have worn down a little then its gunna get ugly

thefunkygibbon said:
yes i too think its a little lack-lustre.
the internet and messaging buttons logo's have both lost 90% of their paintwork.
i think it wont be too long until my keyboard becomes a little too easy to open. after all its only two little plastic notches which cause it to "snap in and out" once they have worn down a little then its gunna get ugly
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Is that true ? I am going to buy one, you talkng about Qtek9100 or K-Jam or both???

i have kjam, but both are the same in terms of build
heres a cross section of the slider in action... when you pull it out the little notch "snaps" into the recess.. and the same when you close.
seeings as its just plastic i have a feeling that that will eventually wear down with use. i already think its become looser than it used to be from only having it a month

I have the qtek 9100 and do not have any oif the problems described above .... yet!!
Stu

screen flips when incoming call

Hi,
I've got the 9100 for a month now.
and everytime when the phone rings, the screen go automaticly to landscape mode, and the send button is not responding.
i can anser only frem the "answer" button on the screen which is now on the top left corner.
it doesnt happend all the time, but its very annoing.
any help?
thanks

Have you tried a hard reset ?

Hahaha... I know where this is coming from...
You are using the TERRIBLE useless case that comes in the box right? Its magnets cause the screen to flip around... your unit is A-OK.
By the way, you store your unit screen facing out or facing your body? Try changing directions if you insist on using this stupid case (I am using it also but I am looking for a better one).
Has anyone found a better case for the KJAM/QTEK 9100?

I had the problem with the case, too...
But it doesn't explain the send button not working - that's happened to me also, which is damn annoying when you're trying to answer the phone!

oh, and I'll be writing a review of the PDAir case as soon as it arrives... Fingers are crossed!

ooh
It really make sense, the magnet thing.
i don't usually put the device on specified side.
but i will try to notice it from now.
in that case, what about the car holders that uses magnet to hold the device?

Give it a try, use the cases magnets to find the spot on the KJAM that flips the screen. It seems that the sliding keyboard uses a magnet to let the device know it is open and to flip the screen.
The included case is such a useless case. I am sure that NO ONE at HTC actually tested the usability of the case WITH the KJAM inside in an everyday usage pattern...
Also, I am not sure if the magnets don't harm the device..

Many many thanks you very clever and helpful people!!!
I was on the verge of getting on to eBay and letting the top bidder have my XDA Mini, because of this switching lark, but I've tried what has been posted here and sure enough, it is the magnets.
So I'll get a better case and keep the device which I think is excellent.
Thanks again!!
:lol:

yea
it helped
please give us a recommendation for a good case
thanks

Yeah.. would like to hear about a good case...
I was thinking about one of these:
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=302&t_mode=cat
Anybody uses them?

stylus problem in/out

hello to everybody!
i got my xda trion 2 weeks ago. after one week, it was impossible to bring the stylus into the xda. so i got a new one.
after again one week, the stylus wont come out of the trion.
someone else prob's with the stylus?
greetings
karl

+ 1, probleme like a wizard too

same ting happened with my TyTN today...

+1 with one week old tytn

Same here...
First I couldn't get it out / then I couldn't get it in / then it would simply slide in-and-out freely to the point that only gravity was holding it in place (sorry if this sounds dirty, but this is what happened).
Had to have mine replaced. I've heard this issue has been around since the Wizard...
I really hope I don't have the same problem on TyTn #2!!!

After a few days of having mine suddenly the stylus was becoming enromously difficult to remove. At one point it just wasnt moving so after a forceful tug it pulled out and a tiny transparent square of plastic/rubber fell out with it. Looks like it was in there to keep it in place but i have no idea how to put it back in. Now the stylus removes fine and stays in place too :shock:

I had the same problem.
Could not get the staylus in with my TyTN.
So I did the mistake and pushed it in... a "knack" sound alerted me that something bad happened. Could not get the stylus in still... so I yanked a small rubber plastic piece from the stylus hole on my TyTN. Now I can slide easily the stylus in.
From teh reports I heard my guess is that the rubebr plastic inside the TyTN is used to firmly hold the stylus in. While without this rubebr plastic there is nothing to hold the stylus until you fully place it inside the TyTN.

andmjones said:
After a few days of having mine suddenly the stylus was becoming enromously difficult to remove. At one point it just wasnt moving so after a forceful tug it pulled out and a tiny transparent square of plastic/rubber fell out with it. Looks like it was in there to keep it in place but i have no idea how to put it back in. Now the stylus removes fine and stays in place too :shock:
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Same here TyTN 1 week old.

same here,
think I'll swap mine over for a new one.....

raptorian said:
I had the same problem.
Could not get the staylus in with my TyTN.
So I did the mistake and pushed it in... a "knack" sound alerted me that something bad happened. Could not get the stylus in still... so I yanked a small rubber plastic piece from the stylus hole on my TyTN. Now I can slide easily the stylus in.
From teh reports I heard my guess is that the rubebr plastic inside the TyTN is used to firmly hold the stylus in. While without this rubebr plastic there is nothing to hold the stylus until you fully place it inside the TyTN.
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Same here in 5 days

happend with me after 2 weeks. I've been struggling for a week, and now it's workng again! Don't know how long it will last. I hope it won't brake down, I bought Hermes thrue internetshop. Always sick to return things.

I carry something like this, and only use the tytn stylus in emergencies. I'm hoping this will reduce wear.

Same here - less than 2 weeks.
:shock:

Same here 5 days, luckley I had a replacment on order for BT problems recived that today lets see how this one goes.

me 2
my TYTN's stylus wouldn't stay in the hole.
i sent my tytn to be replaced (due to BT problems and screen alignment)
and i hope i t won't happen again.
when i put the tytn in the box to be sent so the stylus stopped falling :? )
that is odd

My stylus is a little difficult to remove at times, so I had a look down inside the stylus hole and it appears that there are three of those little pink rubber squares protruding from the side and a dark rubber 'socket' at the end to grip the tip when it's fully inserted. The pink squares are obviously there to provide a little more grip along the length of the stylus, but my guess is that even without them the 'socket' at the end would hold the stylus in place. I imagine that over time the pink rubber will either soften up or disintegrate entirely with the friction.

Solution stylus problem
I had the same problem with my stylus, my solution is take a Poster Buddy Brand name Pritt it is so called here in Holland you can place posters and photo's with it on wals, doors etc. looks like white rubber glue, think I see it in the UK with the name Sticky here you can buy it with photostores and bookstores etc. Take a small piece of it turn it between your vingers to a small ball and put it in the stylus hole after that push it to the end with your stylus.
After I do this I have no further problem with the stylus it works great.

Same issue here... the 2nd day I had it a small transparent square rubber went out of the stylus hole. Now i can put it in and out without problems...

Loose/Jammed Stylus
I'm afraid sending device back for replacement/repair for the stylus problem and loose locking keyboard may only be a temporary fix. Having had my device dismantled I can see exactly what the problesms are with both stylus and keyboard.
For the stylus there is a small block of clear plastic designed to create a friction lock to stop it falling out. There is luckily another small plastic spring lock at the far end so if the stylus is fully in it should click in and not drop out even without the plastic block. The problem is that the plastic block is not held firmly in its slot and as it gets loose creates far too much friction against the stylus which can then drag it right out.
The loose keyboards are due to the metal runners (that you see on back of keyboard partially springing apart (breaking tiny micro welds) at the ends where they lock (or not!) open and closed. These runners if they have sprung open like this will never lock firmly again unless you perform a bit of DIY.
I have performed small operations to fix both these problems and my Keyboard now locks very firmly both open and closed. The stylus issue is dealt with internally with a felt runner at a specific location. BEWARE of course performing these operations will invalidate your warranty. I can be much more specific for anyone who wishes to contact me directly particularly with the keyboard issue which requires quite a chore in dismantling the device - though I can now perform this in half an hour start to finish (Not something I'm proud of with a new device, but I had to workout just how to do the fixes!! )
Actually otherwise I think TYTN is great - superb in fact which is why I did not send it back for repair - couldn't bear to be without it!.
PS Finger around the screen method works every time for me forget all that align screen caper.
Mike

@mikechannon: Do you have high quality pictures of disassembled device where we can see the chipset references? we need to gather information on the hardware used inside the Hermes...

phone casing not flush, can somone compare with theres

Hi all, just recived my replacment handset ive ive just noticed at the bottom the suronding around the mini usb sticks out one side so its not flush with the rest of the phone, im sure on my other handset this wasnt there but not sure for deffenate.
Can anyone confirm this or is it just my phone
Thanks

Mine is the same - I think this is by design.

ok cheers mate, just cant remember it on the last handset

antlion said:
Mine is the same - I think this is by design.
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Yep, this is standard. The Use connector housing is square and does not follow the curve of the casing.
Mike

Something I have noticed is that on my brand new replacement handset (serial number beginning HT643, my original handset was an HT634) the silver bezel which runs along the right hand side of the screen is recessed slightly - nothing major, but when my original handset's metal strip was flush with the plastic casing, you really do notice it (particularly if you're holding the phone in your left hand). Oh well, only a minor issue really!

christopherwoods said:
Something I have noticed is that on my brand new replacement handset (serial number beginning HT643, my original handset was an HT634) the silver bezel which runs along the right hand side of the screen is recessed slightly - nothing major, but when my original handset's metal strip was flush with the plastic casing, you really do notice it (particularly if you're holding the phone in your left hand). Oh well, only a minor issue really!
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BUT maybe this is how they are solving the Screen alignment problem - DONT bend it. Only joking but you never know do you.
Mike

Not planning on it I did notice that JUST as I replaced my handset my screen alignment drifted out, which I corrected with a realignment (I had it replaced for another reason - people not being able to hear me after I'd gone through any call which involved entering numbers to an automated menu system, and then being on hold for a long time! for example... To the T-MOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICES PEOPLE! haha).
Very odd, hope it doesn't happen with this device. I won't go hacking the case to fix it though, I'm too lazy for that.

christopherwoods said:
(I had it replaced for another reason - people not being able to hear me after I'd gone through any call which involved entering numbers to an automated menu system, and then being on hold for a long time! for example... To the T-MOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICES PEOPLE! haha).
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Thats one of the exact problems with my previous handset but mainly when on speaker phone

Anyone got a dead HD? I need the volume button :(

I'm sceptical that I'll get a response, but here goes nothing!
I don't know how where or when, but I lost my volume control button.
Does anyone have a dead HD that can sell the volume up/down button?
Thanks for reading

can't help you but curious as to how you lost it?

Maybe a dummy phone of the HD can be found on eBay with hope that the part is a exact replica. I was holding the Diamond dummy phone and the buttons seemed like the real thing.

Do you mean the thing that part of the back cover? I think looking for the back cover itself could be cheaper .

Hi
It's not part of the back cover, it's actually the volume up/down button.
I tried the dummy phones, but they just have a moulding
I spoke to HTC and they will only repair if I send in ($$$) and the don't just sell the button.
I suspect it fell by being squeezed somehow and flicking out.
grrrr

johnpatcher said:
Do you mean the thing that part of the back cover? I think looking for the back cover itself could be cheaper .
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oh no, it seems you're right after all. I checked my other backcover, and there it was. I didn't loose it at all, it's just that I never moved it to my new cover.
cheers man!!

LOL!

Why'd you get a new cover? Was it, by chance, an attempt to get rid of the creaking sounds every time you handled the phone or used the touch screen? Did it work?

nope, it was because I scratched it!