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What's up with the specs re: vibration?

http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Athena
It doesn't get any more obvious than that.
Thanks!!!! to the the guy who suggested recording another phone vibrating and using the recording as a sound to simulate the vib.
I do want my new advantage to actually vibrate, so I'm going to play with some low frequencies to see if I can get something that resonates with a hunk of hardware somewhere on the unit to produce soemthing tactile.
Other than a headset (I love my PhoneAlarm), does anyone else have any solutions to the lack of vibrating? Heck, my HP5555 vibrates, and it's not even a phone.
Creative ideas I like. Funny, or just stupid ideas are better!

hi
as far as i know, the point is that htc discard the vibrate feature because of the microdrive. and a proof of that is that a guy in a german forum dissasembled his athena and found a mountpoint and connection pins for a standard vibrating motor. like you can see on the pictures he put a motor of another mobile in, and it fits perfectly. the problem you wil have is to enable vibration in the software, and even if you manage that you risk your microdrive.
greets mad
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and for those who speak german the link to the discussion: click

Thx to madbird thats the best way to involve as many people as possible in the discussion.

Hot damn, everything's there ready for vibrate, but they didn't include it?!? Idiots. They lost many potential sales with that decision.
While I have much German blood running through my veins I don't speak the language - anything interesting happening on that thread?

techntrek said:
While I have much German blood running through my veins I don't speak the language - anything interesting happening on that thread?
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Same with me, but I do
In short someone tells that he had to open his Athena to get some metal dust out of the speakers and found the connector.
Then someone else mentions that there already has been a discussion about this and that the vibrate feature wasn't included because of the microdrive.
Possibly interesting is the mentioning of the idea to include a flash disk into the successor of the Athena.
At the end there's some short talk about using a headset with vibrating feature.
Short: Nothing interesting going on.

Thanks for the summary. Any mention if he actually hooked it up and edited the registry to add vibrate to the ring sequence - to see if its still software enabled?

techntrek said:
Thanks for the summary. Any mention if he actually hooked it up and edited the registry to add vibrate to the ring sequence - to see if its still software enabled?
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Correct me if i'm wrong...But doesn't some Nokia phone have the vibrate motor built in the battery, couldn't we use similar technology with a few programs and the design of this type battery to get the phone to vibrate? I mean I do have the Jabra BT8010 and it took about a month to get use to that thing vibrating on my ear, and even at times when I sleep it and forget that it's on, it's annoying enough to make me jump up and reach for my pistol...

Anyone know which registry key must be added/editted to enable the vibrate function?

techntrek said:
Thanks for the summary. Any mention if he actually hooked it up and edited the registry to add vibrate to the ring sequence - to see if its still software enabled?
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He states that he just put it there to look at it (he probably means for the picture) and is fully aware that there is no software control for it.
Also was he reminded of his old 3210 and is missing the vibrating function in meetings.
Short: No, not even an approach

I would give up the microdrive for the vibrate. That's only thing I miss from my hermes and kaiser. Heck, the microdrive is not real realiable anyway. I have had to re-format it twice in 6 months.

mcwtrekkie said:
Anyone know which registry key must be added/editted to enable the vibrate function?
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This page describes the settings I know of. I don't know if there is another setting somewhere (or some driver needed) to enable the vibrate. I just know that the vibrate command must be in this key:
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...ngtone-vibrate-led-flash-characteristics.html

If you will instal HTC Home on Athena - you will have possibility to get vibrate sign instead of loudspeaker .
Maybe it will be solution

Wow. Nice to have something in English....
Thanks so much for the concise translation!
I guess I won't be recording my church organ's 16-foot pipe.

[new release: "Kontoor"] Screen Fade on Suspend (help needed!)

I saw this idea in another thread that I don't currently remember, and I thought I could do it.
Kontoor fades out the screen, suspends the device, and when it is resumed, the screen comes in fading.
The zipped EXE file is attached below. You're supposed to place it somewhere into internal memory and put a shortcut to it to \Windows and name it "Short_Power.lnk", but it doesn't work on my device and Kontoor doesn't run. I'm seeking help for that! Many thanks.
Note that the attached EXE file is a test version.
Also, note that there may be other problems or improveable areas:
- starting the program 2 times will most probably wreck havoc (or pressing the power button 2 times , if it works for you)
- most probably, will not work when in games and other framebuffer-apps
- taskbar changes to "Start" before fading, if nothing changes it's better
- sluggish PDA's (like the HTC Universal I have) may experience added slowdown during resume
- ****ty PDA's (like the HTC Universal ) flash a brief white screen when resuming... it's a bit anti-aesthetic, and I can't control that
many thanks for you audience

yeah..it was requested by nesty24...thanks

wtf... i post something here, hoping it'll get some attention, and the only attention I get is the spam's

I tried it on my Prophet and Kaiser on prophet it does nothing at all. on kaiser it fades out nicely and I like it but when I press to turn screen on it fades out again. having real dificulties turning my screen back on. but the fading looks cool and now I have a reason to flash my next test rom

The exe works fine on my Sprint Vogue. I don't have a Short_Power.lnk in my Windows dir so when I copied it over, it did nothing. Any other way to set this app to run when the power button is pressed?

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The exe works fine on my Sprint Vogue. I don't have a Short_Power.lnk in my Windows dir so when I copied it over, it did nothing. Any other way to set this app to run when the power button is pressed?
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You can follow make :
* Copy Kontoor in Device
* Install FTouchFlo 1.4 and FTouchFloConfig 0.9
* Run FTouchFlo 1.4
* by FTouchFloConfig seting UP DOWN Follow same under Picture (I copy Kontoor in My Device ) and press DONE:
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Sorry for my English

You guys probably haven't heard of SuspendFX havent you?

Not all devices use the "short_power.lnk" method. I think newer devices like the Kaiser do, but older devices such as the universal and the Prophet have a different method. I shall look into the registry and see if it links from there.

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Not all devices use the "short_power.lnk" method. I think newer devices like the Kaiser do, but older devices such as the universal and the Prophet have a different method. I shall look into the registry and see if it links from there.
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many thanks...looking forward to your answer!

Pocket Suspend FX
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You guys probably haven't heard of SuspendFX havent you?
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It costs money is the problem ! However in this case it is such a showstopping program, and if remember very cheap, then I agree with you.... Give him some money and enjoy !(My kids keep asking me to switch on/off my PDA since I bought it !)

ather90 said:
yeah..it was requested by nesty24...thanks
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hmmm. it is somehow like that, but not fading, i mean, maybe fading maybe a feature, but it's not the real function. The idea was on the backlight, when you didn't touch your device (it is power on) for a several seconds, it fades out or dims and get to normal when you touches it again.

Battery Drain?
I try this on my HTC Touch Cruise. It works perfect, but i think my battery is draining faster. Anyone else who had the some problem?
I think it goes not in really standby mode and the screen is only going blank.
I will test it over night again.

nesty24 said:
hmmm. it is somehow like that, but not fading, i mean, maybe fading maybe a feature, but it's not the real function. The idea was on the backlight, when you didn't touch your device (it is power on) for a several seconds, it fades out or dims and get to normal when you touches it again.
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Maybe a mortscript could be written that detects any kind of usage (or lack of usage) and then executes this program after a set time.

nesty24 said:
hmmm. it is somehow like that, but not fading, i mean, maybe fading maybe a feature, but it's not the real function. The idea was on the backlight, when you didn't touch your device (it is power on) for a several seconds, it fades out or dims and get to normal when you touches it again.
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That could be done, but I don't think it would work just right on every PDA... most PDA have different screen backlight settings, some have more light steps, some only 3 settings.... and I think it would stress the light hardware....

Atze001 said:
I try this on my HTC Touch Cruise. It works perfect, but i think my battery is draining faster. Anyone else who had the some problem?
I think it goes not in really standby mode and the screen is only going blank.
I will test it over night again.
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you're right, the app just turns off the screen but doesn't go on standby mode right away, however, it should still go on automatic standby mode (after 30 seconds for me) if you have configured it on your power settings
if you are using spb mobile shell and have configured to show Now screen when device wakes up, you'll notice if you use this app to turn off the screen and you press power button to wake up your device right away, spb gives a sign that it didn't came from standby mode, it shows the last screen you've left.. just my observation, i could be wrong though

Wheel-2-Unlock is UNDER DEVELOPEMENT!!!

EDIT: UNDER DEVELOPEMENT AND WILL BE RELEASED WHEN READY! KEEP AN EYE ON THIS THREAD!!!!
Here's an idea... when you turn your phone off, it locks... when you turn it on, you must roll your thumb/finger to the right around the wheel of the diamond to unlock it...
as you wheel around, the white line around the circle begins to fill from the top, moving rightward around...
sorry for the poor image quality, i just threw it together as a thought.
I hope a developer can throw this together, prolly isn't hard at all and would really be cool for the diamond. Better graphics and glowing line ofcourse.
its simple and utilizes the unique hardware of the diamond, and also the pro.
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anyone like?
anyone down to try and create it?
Wish i could, but i have no idea where to start. i'm in the dark here.

to clear up any confusion that may come up, the lights on the wheel itself don't need to light up as you wheel around... only the circle on the screen.
as you would pass a point on the wheel, another section of the ring on the screen would fill in.

Sounds like a good idea. Hope someone have the time to make it.

im sure that 'wheel-2-unlock' is one of the features of the TouchXperience ROM but it would take a long time for this rom to be released i guess.

TouchXperience is a ROM? Not just a cab installation?

http://www.touchxperience.com/en/touchxperience.html

I really want this app....I miss many calls...

sounds good, i hope someone can do it

Ok guys, i got a good man to try and put this together... he's farther along than he thought and will be releasing something when he feels its ready to meet the world!

Sounds like a good idea - I posted something very like it in the AnswerKeys Disabler thread a few weeks ago!
Glad someone has the skills to make it happen!

subscribed to the thread

Actually there IS such programm already: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=83359&st=125&start=125
Maybe you should contact the author and try to develop together?)

Addicteddddd said:
subscribed to the thread
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me too, (and now just lengthing my post to be > 10 characters )

baskalex said:
Actually there IS such programm already: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=83359&st=125&start=125
Maybe you should contact the author and try to develop together?)
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i just DL'd that file on there and it wouldn't load on the phone... Prolly a difference in english device and whatever language that is device...
I'm not the primary developer cuz i don't know how to do so yet, but my boy on another forum is the one working on it... lets see what he comes up with.
i'll run it by him if he wants to talk to that R2U dev

hello
what about first version.
Im waiting forward.

lamdami said:
I really want this app....I miss many calls...
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Use S2U2 its the same function you miss no calls anymore when use.
grtzzz

CapacitiveFingerLock
I am working on such an idea already for a week or so:
CapacitiveFingerLock.
It will have another locking/unlocking mechanism on top of StylusLock, as described in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2681112&postcount=62
Because I am now on a business trip in America, I had not much time to work on the program. But I haven proven already that it works. I have to remove some stuff from the proven program, and integrate it with my already existing StylusLock. The goal is that it does NOT cost extra battery power and CPU and is really simple to use.
The reason to add this, is to have it possible to lock and unlock "one handed". The StylusLock approach cannot be done "one handed", e.g. on a bike. Also some people do not like to operate with the StylusLock. The combination with this new CapacitiveFingerLock and existing StylusLock will suit more people. And sometimes people will use the Stylus, so they will get the right behaviour depended on the usage.

Good idea, as I do not use any locks or such applications, but this one sounds nice. Just remember that this app should not conflict with, or somehow overcover and incomming call

ZuinigeRijder said:
I am working on such an idea already for a week or so:
CapacitiveFingerLock.
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Woohoo, I've been asking for such a thing for weeks now. Do you have a working version already?
That would be awesome.

Definitely MUCH MUCH better than SensorLock and all the - no need to mention - rest!
Especially because SensorLock is still buggy as hell!

[REQ] Nightstand clock QVGA

Hi!
anybody knows app like "night stand" which works on iPhone?
i dont like "pTravelAlarm" and "NyxClock".
i would like these functions:
-landscape
-fullscreen
-black background
-display always on
-disable WM 6.5 lock (or other)
I could try to develop it, if you can tell me how to import clock in program.
screenshot of the app is attached.
thanks for help!
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just disable standby when cradledi the power setings. get a black bakground. you can use any "standard" home screen ro HTC home or manila ove titanium.
You can also change the clock fonts or graphics for any of those programs.
the lock screen would probably be your best bet as the .cpr would be the easyest to change with the font size and type.
I think it's a decent idea. I might tackle that once I get some other projects done. epecally since my screen dims after a while.

S.V.I said:
just disable standby when cradledi the power setings. get a black bakground. you can use any "standard" home screen ro HTC home or manila ove titanium.
You can also change the clock fonts or graphics for any of those programs.
the lock screen would probably be your best bet as the .cpr would be the easyest to change with the font size and type.
I think it's a decent idea. I might tackle that once I get some other projects done. epecally since my screen dims after a while.
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I don't want different home screen but app which i'll use only when i'll need it and it should be simple to view at night.
I have basics of programing in c++ and c# so i want to build my own app...i just have to find out how to import clock in visual studio and then it shouldn't be big problem.

I think pTravelAlarm is what you are looking for. I have been using it for a couple of years without any complaints. It won't keep the device screen up, it follows the device settings, so, if you want to keep the screen on all through the night, modify the device settings.
http://www.burroak.on.ca/pta.html

AthenaLod said:
I think pTravelAlarm is what you are looking for. I have been using it for a couple of years without any complaints. It won't keep the device screen up, it follows the device settings, so, if you want to keep the screen on all through the night, modify the device settings.
http://www.burroak.on.ca/pta.html
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i tryed it out yesterday.
i don't like it because:
-there is no fullscreen option
-it is not free
-too small clock
i want something just like "night stand" for iPhone. it looks perfect

DelMar Alarm Clock is what you want. I've been using it for a couple of years.
http://www.delmarit.com/ditalarmclock/

rrentrop said:
DelMar Alarm Clock is what you want. I've been using it for a couple of years.
http://www.delmarit.com/ditalarmclock/
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THANK YOU MAN!!! it's perfect!
Did you buy it or crack it?

Seems very simple to do in flash, RLtoday or even SU2U... but the hole idea seems a huge battery drain and a bit of a energy waste...

twolf said:
Seems very simple to do in flash, RLtoday or even SU2U... but the hole idea seems a huge battery drain and a bit of a energy waste...
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battery is not a problem because i must charge battery everyday at night,so it wouldn't be a problem...for me.
and i allready got the app,thanks to "rrentrop".

Hey, why do you have PMs disabled?
Can't send you one... I need to know where you got the app from
I really like it

xILukasIx said:
Hey, why do you have PMs disabled?
Can't send you one... I need to know where you got the app from
I really like it
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i didn't find full version yet,but i'm searching for it and if i find it i'll post it.
i'll enable PMs now

Found to make delmar alarm clock full.
blaz.andrejcic check pm
[EDIT READ UNDER FOR MORE OR CLICK -->...postcount=17]

blaz.andrejcic said:
battery is not a problem because i must charge battery everyday at night,so it wouldn't be a problem...for me.
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just for your info: charging a battery when device is on is not good for the battery itself.
reason: when the battery is full, i will start draining. Immediately, the charging jumps in.
You will have unreasonable amount of chargings, which is limited for every battery.

snudel said:
just for your info: charging a battery when device is on is not good for the battery itself.
reason: when the battery is full, i will start draining. Immediately, the charging jumps in.
You will have unreasonable amount of chargings, which is limited for every battery.
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That is right,but last night i didn't charge the phone and it used only 20% of battery (backlight-power save).

assangflexx said:
Found to make delmar alarm clock full.
blaz.andrejcic check pm
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Can you pm me as well. Thanks.

boo... tried the app, and it's bollocks.
Alarms only work if phone display is on. Can't allow phone to enter sleep mode.
However, GAlarm is the tits!
*happy*

Since we can't share WAREZ that make people do illegal sharing activities on this forum i only want to say stop pm ME for full version files...
I Suggest that everyone can flash a phone, also can search his own method for [email protected] or something.
I Give hint, search for an cr _ ack site on google or try to use wisely key terms on google.
Enough said.
Tested the app, it aint bad at all. Only expected more graphical design
Also stick with Galarm...

assangflexx said:
Tested the app, it aint bad at all. Only expected more graphical design
Also stick with Galarm...
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I agree about graphical design but it's not a big deal for me. and i don't like Galarm because the clock font is to small to see when you wake up in the middle of the night.

I agree about Galarm. If GAlarm has larger clock font, I would stick with it but its just too small to see in middle of night and especially for a half-assed blind man like me.... (no glasses or contacts, makes Galarm really hard to see in middle of the night).

Find Phone by whistling - like the retro keychain finder

hey guys. do you still remember those keychain finder, where you just need to whistle and the keychain answers with a loud sound to let you locate where it comes from?
i searched the whole droidpit but nothing found like this for android. woudn't it be an idea for a new app? start it as a service on boot and when you're thinking about where you put your phone again, just whistle and our android answers with an alarm ... maybe a skillful developer can punch in some lines of code to realize this app ... or would that drain the battery too much?
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good idea to say the least, but would probably cause severe battery drain since it would have to always be running(at least when screen goes to sleep) not to mention how many times you would be in public and your phone would make an obscenely loud sound out of nowhere(you know it would!)

Interesting, but much easier to send it a text and have it sound an alarm

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Interesting, but much easier to send it a text and have it sound an alarm
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Hard to send a text if its the only phone you have an you're alone somewhere.
This is a good idea, but might be a little hard to implement.

Send a little text via twitter would be the best method I guess.
You displaced your phone, write a little twitter-message with your computer and your phone will answer with an alarm.

and what if you either don't have your computer or your second phone at hand? ... if I misplace my phone at home i just give it a call from my fixed-line. send twits or email is not a solution if I don't have 3g enabled or don't have a data plan - that said I need an other device for sending at first ...

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and what if you either don't have your computer or your second phone at hand? ... if I misplace my phone at home i just give it a call from my fixed-line. send twits or email is not a solution if I don't have 3g enabled or don't have a data plan - that said I need an other device for sending at first ...
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yaa OR what if your phone is on silent, then sending a tweet, text, or call would have no effect...
BUT on the other hand, I do believe that this would kill the battery, considering not only does it have to be running in the background, but it would have to be constantly scanning for the whistle sound, using the microphone every second while it's asleep.
Unless someone knows another way to achieve this aside from constantly scanning... hmmmm
Let's put our brains together.

i wanted this too! who cares about battery drain i have a charger at home in the can and in the office if out and about can close the app whistle fonder whould be no use if you lose it in town etc

There is an app called "Where's my droid", that will turn your ringer on, volume up, and ring for up to 5 minutes by sending a text.

Thats a GREAT idea! I would heavily use such an app. Ill subscribe to this thread, I dont want to miss anything.

BUMP! I want this to happen!!

There's a open source project called musicg sound api about it:
http://code.google.com/p/musicg-sound-api/
btw you can have a look on the relevant app too:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.whistleapp

I'm thinking it should require that you record a whistle for it (something short and relatively simple, but unique), and it only responds to whistling that resembles that (maybe write an algorithm that requires... say... 80% recognition?).
Seems kinda complicated, but also seems like the only way to protect against it going off anytime you're out in public and someone whistles.

You could have the app check some additional things before checking for the whistle... Check to see if the screen is off (obvious one), maybe also check to see if it's moving using the accelerometer (if you can't find it then it's most likely sitting still somewhere). This could keep it from draining the battery, and it would also keep the phone from going off if someone whistles while it's in use port being carried. This app is a great idea.
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