What's up with the specs re: vibration? - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Athena
It doesn't get any more obvious than that.
Thanks!!!! to the the guy who suggested recording another phone vibrating and using the recording as a sound to simulate the vib.
I do want my new advantage to actually vibrate, so I'm going to play with some low frequencies to see if I can get something that resonates with a hunk of hardware somewhere on the unit to produce soemthing tactile.
Other than a headset (I love my PhoneAlarm), does anyone else have any solutions to the lack of vibrating? Heck, my HP5555 vibrates, and it's not even a phone.
Creative ideas I like. Funny, or just stupid ideas are better!

hi
as far as i know, the point is that htc discard the vibrate feature because of the microdrive. and a proof of that is that a guy in a german forum dissasembled his athena and found a mountpoint and connection pins for a standard vibrating motor. like you can see on the pictures he put a motor of another mobile in, and it fits perfectly. the problem you wil have is to enable vibration in the software, and even if you manage that you risk your microdrive.
greets mad
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and for those who speak german the link to the discussion: click

Thx to madbird thats the best way to involve as many people as possible in the discussion.

Hot damn, everything's there ready for vibrate, but they didn't include it?!? Idiots. They lost many potential sales with that decision.
While I have much German blood running through my veins I don't speak the language - anything interesting happening on that thread?

techntrek said:
While I have much German blood running through my veins I don't speak the language - anything interesting happening on that thread?
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Same with me, but I do
In short someone tells that he had to open his Athena to get some metal dust out of the speakers and found the connector.
Then someone else mentions that there already has been a discussion about this and that the vibrate feature wasn't included because of the microdrive.
Possibly interesting is the mentioning of the idea to include a flash disk into the successor of the Athena.
At the end there's some short talk about using a headset with vibrating feature.
Short: Nothing interesting going on.

Thanks for the summary. Any mention if he actually hooked it up and edited the registry to add vibrate to the ring sequence - to see if its still software enabled?

techntrek said:
Thanks for the summary. Any mention if he actually hooked it up and edited the registry to add vibrate to the ring sequence - to see if its still software enabled?
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Correct me if i'm wrong...But doesn't some Nokia phone have the vibrate motor built in the battery, couldn't we use similar technology with a few programs and the design of this type battery to get the phone to vibrate? I mean I do have the Jabra BT8010 and it took about a month to get use to that thing vibrating on my ear, and even at times when I sleep it and forget that it's on, it's annoying enough to make me jump up and reach for my pistol...

Anyone know which registry key must be added/editted to enable the vibrate function?

techntrek said:
Thanks for the summary. Any mention if he actually hooked it up and edited the registry to add vibrate to the ring sequence - to see if its still software enabled?
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He states that he just put it there to look at it (he probably means for the picture) and is fully aware that there is no software control for it.
Also was he reminded of his old 3210 and is missing the vibrating function in meetings.
Short: No, not even an approach

I would give up the microdrive for the vibrate. That's only thing I miss from my hermes and kaiser. Heck, the microdrive is not real realiable anyway. I have had to re-format it twice in 6 months.

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Anyone know which registry key must be added/editted to enable the vibrate function?
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This page describes the settings I know of. I don't know if there is another setting somewhere (or some driver needed) to enable the vibrate. I just know that the vibrate command must be in this key:
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...ngtone-vibrate-led-flash-characteristics.html

If you will instal HTC Home on Athena - you will have possibility to get vibrate sign instead of loudspeaker .
Maybe it will be solution

Wow. Nice to have something in English....
Thanks so much for the concise translation!
I guess I won't be recording my church organ's 16-foot pipe.

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Disable Auto Rotate?

I have tried searching for this but not been able to find anything, so sorry if it is already covered elsewhere.
Does anyone know how to disable the auto rotation of the screen that happens when you go from laptop to tablet mode?
Thanks in advance
Sam
It has been asked before, and I know how to do it, but I have to get a little time to write the app. It's quite an easy app to write, just time is unavailable to me I need a time turner.
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I would have thought with your 1337 5k1llz you would have at the very least had your own TARDIS lol
Nice to see Pratchett references popping up all over the place =)
I thought I saw something here about an app that was already created, except that it made the Universal totally ignore any lid motion, so closing the lid would not put it to sleep. I can't remember what thread I saw it in... I thought it was Vijay who did it, too. Hmm.
do you really have to go through all the trouble to write a program for it or is there a simple reg hack to take care of this?
There's a little of both. It's a driver hack, but combined with some registry.
I wrote the other program also, can't remember what it was called now, for maintaining control and enabling the Universal's external keys, but it had a limited release of 1 guy trying it.
Then I got distracted for 6 months, having a baby
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Any update on this? I would like the auto rotate to still rotate but into landscape mode the other way up, as opposed to portrait mode, if you see what I mean
Disable auto-rotate
Hi Vijay555,
Any luck finding the program?
Would really appreciate it mate.
just in install vijaylumix 2. click on enable extra brightness than switch power off. After that autobrightness will be disabled and screen orientation will not go automatically works just fine hehe
tuyulaneh said:
just in install vijaylumix 2. click on enable extra brightness than switch power off. After that autobrightness will be disabled and screen orientation will not go automatically works just fine hehe
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Thanks a lot !!! Works a treat.
works but camera bug!
AbuGWM5 said:
Thanks a lot !!! Works a treat.
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The camera does not work once vijaylumix 2 is started :-(
So back to the drawing board.
Actually isn't there a program that sets selected programs to start in either landscape or potrait view?
Try re-launching VJLumos I/II/III to disable.
vijaylumix? Dude, what kinda weird sounding pseudo-romantic idiom is that?
VJUzumaki has been re-written. The nega/positive side effect of VJLumos is unexpected but useful. But VJUzumaki will disable rotation and provide a whole shebang loud of new features.. coming soon.
V
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Try re-launching VJLumos I/II/III to disable.
vijaylumix? Dude, what kinda weird sounding pseudo-romantic idiom is that?
VJUzumaki has been re-written. The nega/positive side effect of VJLumos is unexpected but useful. But VJUzumaki will disable rotation and provide a whole shebang loud of new features.. coming soon.
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Sorry mate should be 'VJLumos II' and not 'vijaylumix 2.'
Looking forward to VJUzumakimix....only kidding VJ. When is VJUzumaki due?
Respect & seasonal greets.
umm, if I recal you can remove the magnet from inside the casing, that makes the screen auto rotate
I'm working on bells and whistles (ie features!) for VJUzumaki, so hopefully shortly into the new year.
V
what is the status of VJUzumaki, or has there been an alternate fix found for this problem?
Thanks

Wheel-2-Unlock is UNDER DEVELOPEMENT!!!

EDIT: UNDER DEVELOPEMENT AND WILL BE RELEASED WHEN READY! KEEP AN EYE ON THIS THREAD!!!!
Here's an idea... when you turn your phone off, it locks... when you turn it on, you must roll your thumb/finger to the right around the wheel of the diamond to unlock it...
as you wheel around, the white line around the circle begins to fill from the top, moving rightward around...
sorry for the poor image quality, i just threw it together as a thought.
I hope a developer can throw this together, prolly isn't hard at all and would really be cool for the diamond. Better graphics and glowing line ofcourse.
its simple and utilizes the unique hardware of the diamond, and also the pro.
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anyone like?
anyone down to try and create it?
Wish i could, but i have no idea where to start. i'm in the dark here.
to clear up any confusion that may come up, the lights on the wheel itself don't need to light up as you wheel around... only the circle on the screen.
as you would pass a point on the wheel, another section of the ring on the screen would fill in.
Sounds like a good idea. Hope someone have the time to make it.
im sure that 'wheel-2-unlock' is one of the features of the TouchXperience ROM but it would take a long time for this rom to be released i guess.
TouchXperience is a ROM? Not just a cab installation?
http://www.touchxperience.com/en/touchxperience.html
I really want this app....I miss many calls...
sounds good, i hope someone can do it
Ok guys, i got a good man to try and put this together... he's farther along than he thought and will be releasing something when he feels its ready to meet the world!
Sounds like a good idea - I posted something very like it in the AnswerKeys Disabler thread a few weeks ago!
Glad someone has the skills to make it happen!
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Actually there IS such programm already: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=83359&st=125&start=125
Maybe you should contact the author and try to develop together?)
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me too, (and now just lengthing my post to be > 10 characters )
baskalex said:
Actually there IS such programm already: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=83359&st=125&start=125
Maybe you should contact the author and try to develop together?)
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i just DL'd that file on there and it wouldn't load on the phone... Prolly a difference in english device and whatever language that is device...
I'm not the primary developer cuz i don't know how to do so yet, but my boy on another forum is the one working on it... lets see what he comes up with.
i'll run it by him if he wants to talk to that R2U dev
hello
what about first version.
Im waiting forward.
lamdami said:
I really want this app....I miss many calls...
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Use S2U2 its the same function you miss no calls anymore when use.
grtzzz
CapacitiveFingerLock
I am working on such an idea already for a week or so:
CapacitiveFingerLock.
It will have another locking/unlocking mechanism on top of StylusLock, as described in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2681112&postcount=62
Because I am now on a business trip in America, I had not much time to work on the program. But I haven proven already that it works. I have to remove some stuff from the proven program, and integrate it with my already existing StylusLock. The goal is that it does NOT cost extra battery power and CPU and is really simple to use.
The reason to add this, is to have it possible to lock and unlock "one handed". The StylusLock approach cannot be done "one handed", e.g. on a bike. Also some people do not like to operate with the StylusLock. The combination with this new CapacitiveFingerLock and existing StylusLock will suit more people. And sometimes people will use the Stylus, so they will get the right behaviour depended on the usage.
Good idea, as I do not use any locks or such applications, but this one sounds nice. Just remember that this app should not conflict with, or somehow overcover and incomming call
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I am working on such an idea already for a week or so:
CapacitiveFingerLock.
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Woohoo, I've been asking for such a thing for weeks now. Do you have a working version already?
That would be awesome.
Definitely MUCH MUCH better than SensorLock and all the - no need to mention - rest!
Especially because SensorLock is still buggy as hell!

Clock & missed calls when backlight off?

Hi,
Is it possible to have the time and missed calls/messages information when the backlight is off with Xperia? I mean just like it is on usual mobile phones like SE W850i or the others..
Otherwise, it's a bit of a burden to switch on/off the backlight just to check if I have missed calls instead of taking a second of glance to the screen..
Quassimo said:
Hi,
Is it possible to have the time and missed calls/messages information when the backlight is off with Xperia? I mean just like it is on usual mobile phones like SE W850i or the others..
Otherwise, it's a bit of a burden to switch on/off the backlight just to check if I have missed calls instead of taking a second of glance to the screen..
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I guess the best way would be to set the LED's to flash until noticed.. Then you will know if you have an sms or missed call.
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I guess the best way would be to set the LED's to flash until noticed.. Then you will know if you have an sms or missed call.
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thanks for the advice.
but is there anyone who could kindly answer the question I asked?
Dont think so - from what I understood, when you press upper button then WM61 goes to some kind of sleep mode, leaving only basic functions like mobile and some others running, saving as much power as possible. Including disabled display. If you want to see something on screen, then you have to keep it turned on, which equals increased power consumption.
I haven't got the manual to hand but surely it there is a section on power-saving/backlight settings?!?
Go to settings>system>power>advanced>On Battery Power and untick turn off device is not used for...
Beware that the screen is one of the major battery drains...
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I haven't got the manual to hand but surely it there is a section on power-saving/backlight settings?!?
Go to settings>system>power>advanced>On Battery Power and untick turn off device is not used for...
Beware that the screen is one of the major battery drains...
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thanks. but unfortunately this will not solve the issue..
I was looking for sth. like these actually:
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Then you are out of luck. The x1 does not do this.
Unless someone knows of/writes an app to do this.
As was said above, the best other option would be to set the 4 corner LEDs to flash indefinately till you notice them.
Or, buy a different phone.
Sadly the industry is not giving out the right info with Winmo "phones".
They are a PDA first, with a phone fitted in as a second thought. Not the other way around. So, they still lack many base features from "simpler" phones.
Quassimo said:
thanks. but unfortunately this will not solve the issue..
I was looking for sth. like these actually:
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I'm not sure what you're looking for here -
1) Keeping the screen on but the backlight off, so that you can glance at the screen and see the time/your notifications - per your first post
2) Having a quickview screen with a big clock and your notifications, when your phone is on standby, per the post I have quoted.
3) both
I've already given you an answer for 1). For 2) have you tried using S2U2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
it's both I am looking for. but as was put forward before, it looks it is not possible at the moment.
the pdas unfortunately miss some simple phone features; it will take some time to get used to it...
The answer is very easy:
If you have only one display as a PPC has, you need the backlight on to see something.
It is no problem to create the information you want with 3rd party software as WAD2 or PhoneAlarm. But then you have to keep the backlight on and this takes a lot of power.
Easier it is if you only want the screen turning on if a new sms/email/mms/appointment or other thing ist coming. If you use PhoneAlarm for example, you can give the settings to turn on the screen at this alarms. Then the screen turns on, if an alarm arrives (for a new SMS/MMS/EMail or Appointment or whatever) and you can see it. This needs power too.
With this you cannot see the time during 24 h...
What I do is to tell PhoneAlarm to give a sound for a new SMS/Email/MMS but not to turn on the screen. Then I know, when I want to turn the screen on and can see what happend.
And if I want to see the time I just turn on the screen for a short look. At the screenie you see one of the pages with WAD2 and PhoneAlarm in the top, I made for my daily use...
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it's both I am looking for. but as was put forward before, it looks it is not possible at the moment.
the pdas unfortunately miss some simple phone features; it will take some time to get used to it...
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So is the solution not to do both things I suggested?

[SOLVED] Answer key always enabled at incoming call (HTC dialer)

This is a major issue with the HTC HD2 Tachi dialer v4.2621.1920.3221 (standard factory dialer)
During an incoming call, Tachi dialer will enable the ANSWER hardware key (which is actually not that “hard” to press).
Possible consequences:
1. Auto answer a call while phone in pocket or bag and never notice it (especially if phone in mute or if ambient noise high)
2. While taking out of pocket or leather case, if ANSWER key pressed and then END pressed, call will drop.
In other words:
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Use Pocketshield and set Settings > Phone > On Incoming call > "Lock hardware keys"
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Use In Call Lock along with tweak in post #39
It's been this way with all their previous phones. Of course they won't fix it because it's not a bug.
Yes, the difference is that in all previous phones you can use a key locking solution... but not here so far.
Considering the fact that hard keys are now not too hard, it could be a functional issue (not bug exactly)
While I wholeheartedly agree that this is utterly annoying (and it breaks my own application, InCall Lock), I'm 199% confident they won't "fix" anything. Because they just won't, and also because if they do it they will get even more support calls with complaints that the answer button doesn't answer the call.
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556801. I haven't used it on my HD2 yet but it worked perfectly on my Touch Pro. It completely disables the hardware buttons during a call so only the screen can answer/reject.
That's a program I wrote and I know it doesn't work on HD2.
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That's a program I wrote and I know it doesn't work on HD2.
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Dammit, I was going to start using it.
This is a very annoying thing with the HD2, nobody came up with a solution yet?
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That's a program I wrote and I know it doesn't work on HD2.
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Are you planning on releasing an HD2-compatible update?
Whenever I figure out what the hell is wrong with those buttons, and if it's fixable, I will, because it annoys the hell out of me, too. No good news yet though - I don't know what to do at the moment. It should work, it works on all WM5+ devices except the Leo.
We also need proximity sensor tweaks, because the way it works now is just horrible. When you end a call using a headset the screen stays on. When you have an incoming call while using your headset it stays on during the whole call and remains on after that, completely unlocked.
This is definitely by design on HTC's part and as others have mentioned has been this way on all prior HTC phones, at least of the 4 that I have owned. Personally have have not had an "accidental" answering once from the hardware key, it still takes an effort and timing to push this exactly while the phone is ringing. I doubt this will be "fixed", your best bet would be to find someone here that is as concerned as you are about it, or possible a future app that might address this need.
Perhaps if HTC decide not to 'fix' this problem as they see it as "by-design" then instead they can just fix the fact the button ignores 3rd party lockers? Best of both worlds then..
Anyways I've dropped them an email to suggest such, one little voice I know but if enough people do similar than lots of little voices can sound quite loud..
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Perhaps if HTC decide not to 'fix' this problem as they see it as "by-design" then instead they can just fix the fact the button ignores 3rd party lockers? Best of both worlds then..
Anyways I've dropped them an email to suggest such, one little voice I know but if enough people do similar than lots of little voices can sound quite loud..
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Exactly. That is what HTC has to change. To just have the phone application to behave as all previous models do, so 3rd party applications can coexist...
Would very much like to see a solution for this problem indeed.
Goodluck to the ones with the skills capable of doing so.
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That's a program I wrote and I know it doesn't work on HD2.
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That's hilarious. It works perfectly on my 1.48 Dutch ROM. Thanks for this great utility (pity though, you yourself can't use it )
Hmm, maybe 1.48 changes something in the way keys are handled. Nice to know. Does it lock both Send and End buttons properly?
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Hmm, maybe 1.48 changes something in the way keys are handled. Nice to know. Does it lock both Send and End buttons properly?
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Yes, like you have designed to do. But I will look at the configuration of my device. I have another app installed that traps my buttons. I will report back if I can break your app. Otherwise, assume that I'm perfectly happy with it.
(Btw. as far as I can recollect, the app also worked on my pre-installed 1.43 Dutch Rom.)
Fixed (more or less)
OK, here is your fix. Create a long_send.lnk and place it in the windows folder. After that your app. does more or less what it is intended to do.
The weirdest thing is that when the send button is pressed when the phone is called (and your utility activated) the "long send" command is triggered.
(Edit for users that can't recompile your program to let it behave as it is supposed to, copy the phone.lnk in the startup/programs folder to the windows directory and rename it long_send.
Hmm that's even more strange - I have an action assigned to long send press via a shortcut and the program still doesn't work. I had an idea about writing a separate tiny program assigned to short press that would replace default action but haven't gotten to it yet. Is anybody willing to test whether short_send.lnk works (I.e. breaks the send button functionality)?
appelflap said:
That's hilarious. It works perfectly on my 1.48 Dutch ROM. Thanks for this great utility (pity though, you yourself can't use it )
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If you are using the WM dialer or maybe Phonex or Inesoft phone then there is no issue. Issue is with Tachi dialer only..
I have also flashed 1.48 and its all the same.

Find Phone by whistling - like the retro keychain finder

hey guys. do you still remember those keychain finder, where you just need to whistle and the keychain answers with a loud sound to let you locate where it comes from?
i searched the whole droidpit but nothing found like this for android. woudn't it be an idea for a new app? start it as a service on boot and when you're thinking about where you put your phone again, just whistle and our android answers with an alarm ... maybe a skillful developer can punch in some lines of code to realize this app ... or would that drain the battery too much?
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good idea to say the least, but would probably cause severe battery drain since it would have to always be running(at least when screen goes to sleep) not to mention how many times you would be in public and your phone would make an obscenely loud sound out of nowhere(you know it would!)
Interesting, but much easier to send it a text and have it sound an alarm
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Interesting, but much easier to send it a text and have it sound an alarm
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Hard to send a text if its the only phone you have an you're alone somewhere.
This is a good idea, but might be a little hard to implement.
Send a little text via twitter would be the best method I guess.
You displaced your phone, write a little twitter-message with your computer and your phone will answer with an alarm.
and what if you either don't have your computer or your second phone at hand? ... if I misplace my phone at home i just give it a call from my fixed-line. send twits or email is not a solution if I don't have 3g enabled or don't have a data plan - that said I need an other device for sending at first ...
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and what if you either don't have your computer or your second phone at hand? ... if I misplace my phone at home i just give it a call from my fixed-line. send twits or email is not a solution if I don't have 3g enabled or don't have a data plan - that said I need an other device for sending at first ...
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yaa OR what if your phone is on silent, then sending a tweet, text, or call would have no effect...
BUT on the other hand, I do believe that this would kill the battery, considering not only does it have to be running in the background, but it would have to be constantly scanning for the whistle sound, using the microphone every second while it's asleep.
Unless someone knows another way to achieve this aside from constantly scanning... hmmmm
Let's put our brains together.
i wanted this too! who cares about battery drain i have a charger at home in the can and in the office if out and about can close the app whistle fonder whould be no use if you lose it in town etc
There is an app called "Where's my droid", that will turn your ringer on, volume up, and ring for up to 5 minutes by sending a text.
Thats a GREAT idea! I would heavily use such an app. Ill subscribe to this thread, I dont want to miss anything.
BUMP! I want this to happen!!
There's a open source project called musicg sound api about it:
http://code.google.com/p/musicg-sound-api/
btw you can have a look on the relevant app too:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.whistleapp
I'm thinking it should require that you record a whistle for it (something short and relatively simple, but unique), and it only responds to whistling that resembles that (maybe write an algorithm that requires... say... 80% recognition?).
Seems kinda complicated, but also seems like the only way to protect against it going off anytime you're out in public and someone whistles.
You could have the app check some additional things before checking for the whistle... Check to see if the screen is off (obvious one), maybe also check to see if it's moving using the accelerometer (if you can't find it then it's most likely sitting still somewhere). This could keep it from draining the battery, and it would also keep the phone from going off if someone whistles while it's in use port being carried. This app is a great idea.
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