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Re-Assigning Power Button

Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?

Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button

DAFTEK said:
its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.

Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.

I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V

I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.

r111 said:
[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.

ovidiugm said:
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel

Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ

+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....

So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike

1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V

vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )

Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V

I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.

Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V

Thats what I would like to do......

Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ

IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V

This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...

Broken Power Button challenge! Workaround?

My Vogue took a swim the other day and after some emergency triage, I was able to salvage the device with the exception of one thing-- the power button. The device turns on when you put in the battery, but after it goes to sleep, there is no way to turn the screen back on (unless someone calls me!).
My side button still works. Has anyone has any experience remapping the "screen on" command to a side button? any other ideas?
Thanks!

WOW! my power button just broke yesterday too and i had the exact same question!! But i actually dropped mine and i know the power button is either jammed or broken because it doesnt spring back. I basically have the same question. Is there anyway we can change the side camera button 2 act as the power button?
Thanks (and sorry 4 asking the question twice)

Personally, I would get a new device, since that may not be the only side effect, hopefully you have insurance, you do right?
Anyways, try AEButton Plus, set the camera button to whatever function (i.e. triple tap) to switch display on/off.
Then goto Settings>System>Key Lock, and change the setting to "Do not lock buttons"
Also, this is NOT freeware.

PHM Screen saver...
I had same issue with Power button - I cloned a Telus I got on Kijiji for $80.00 - Once I get AAA Auth working all will be well...
I used to use something called PHM Screensaver... and Yes RESET works too...
BTW - Anyone know where to get parts like that (IE Power button?) - LCD is easy to find, and I don't need it...

dave68 said:
I had same issue with Power button - I cloned a Telus I got on Kijiji for $80.00 - Once I get AAA Auth working all will be well...
I used to use something called PHM Screensaver... and Yes RESET works too...
BTW - Anyone know where to get parts like that (IE Power button?) - LCD is easy to find, and I don't need it...
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I haven't opened it up... but usually it's part of the main circuit board. Unless you're good with soldering tiny little pins... you'll probably have to buy the board and swap it out.
In the case that you happen to have mad soldering skills... it's most likely a fairly common momentary switch. You could possibly rob one out of some other gadget or order one on ebay. The hardest part of that would be getting one that fits where the old one does.

Actually, you won't need AEButton Plus, just turn the lock off.

You could aslo disable "time out power off" type of stuff...
and use AE buttons to turn the screen on and off..
as far as the broken one, i'd dissasemble and see if tis' the
actual switch, or if ti's just the plastic button going to the switch.

Has anyone been succesfull in in repairing the power button? I've dropped my phone only twice in the last two years and both times the spring in the power button broke. I'm beginning to think this is the world's most fragile phone.

Volume button is loose

Today I noticed that the Volume button is loose. Is this normal?
My Touch HD's Volume button is firmly in place.

How loose? Might has a little give in it but i wouldnt call it loose.

It's quite loose, I can move it with slightest touch .

My volume up button didn't work out of the box. There are a couple of threads about the problem but no solution that I saw other than take it back for a replacement which is what I did this week.

mids99 said:
My volume up button didn't work out of the box. There are a couple of threads about the problem but no solution that I saw other than take it back for a replacement which is what I did this week.
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mine was the same.sent it for replacement and now it is ok.
...and it is not loose.

mids99 said:
My volume up button didn't work out of the box. There are a couple of threads about the problem but no solution that I saw other than take it back for a replacement which is what I did this week.
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Thanks for your input. Anyway my volume button works fine, but it's just loose. I'm not sure I can get a replacement for this reason.

there is supposed to be a little "play" in all of the buttons. Its the same with PSP, DS and other portable gadgets. With a little give they won't break as quickly if they get snagged on clothing for example because they are not rigid and consequently have a little bit of "give". Hope that makes sense!

My first one had a solid volume button, the button on my replacement is very loose. Whether they will all get looser over time is another question...

Volume Control Buttons

hi all
i have a problem, im left handed so the volume buttons are hit constantly...
is there anyway to deactivate this buttons? ive tried looking for an app to reprogram but i cant find one
any ideas
thanks all
JT

try using your right hand anyway, i dont think you can, as you need them to boot into fastboot and stuff :\

glue them with superglue

i just tried holding it with my left hand is so many different positions... (not an innuendo!) and didnt accidentally press the volume buttons once..

how bizarre lol
maybe its the fact i used to holding a diamond, when i grip the phone it catches the piece of my palm between the index finger and thumb.
i'll have to screen lock more i guess

Maybe this will help?:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.vol-qwmn.aspx
Btw, Shenshang - If you're left handed I guess you normally hold the phone with the right hand...

mape78 said:
Maybe this will help?:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.vol-qwmn.aspx
Btw, Shenshang - If you're left handed I guess you normally hold the phone with the right hand...
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ohh...you people are 2 handed.....i do it with my thumb.....

Faulty volume button.

Has anybody have the same problem I have with the DHD volume button? My device has the bottom part of the button jutting out a little bit, and I am worried it might fall off. I have only had this phone for 2 and a half weeks, so before considering an exchange, has anybody had the problem and fixed it? I would hate to take the button off and not be able to put it back on properly.

Can you take pic and upload it?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I had the same problem. I sent mine back to Phones4u after about a week.
Whether it would have fallen off or not, I don't know - but as mine was like that after a week or so I didn't want to take any chances.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Here are the pictures, hope they're good enough quality.

Mine's the same, it's going back when vodafone get more stock.
I also noticed the top of the screen clicks and creaks as if its loose.
Mine is the openmarket version and vodafone only have the branded handsets in stock anyone know the difference?

Just return it.

Hi all,
I've my phone about a month now and I have almost the same problem with the volume button.
Actually it isnt that bad as the pictures above but you can definetally feel that the vol-down button sticks a litle bit out while the vol-up is very hard to press.
(The powerbutton is also hard to press but that seems to be with everyones phone)
It seems HTC is very bad in making hardware buttons, I had also button problems with my Touch HD and my HD2!
What do you recommend me? Should I return it or not?
Ps for htc maybe:
The main reason why htc makes hard to press (power) buttons is to avoid acitentally turning the device on/off while its in your pocket or wathever.
I have a solution, make good easy to press CAPACTIVE (power) HARDWARE buttons.
I think that should solve a lot of problems

The bottom bit of the volume button comes out a bit too on mine but not that far!

Smigit said:
Just return it.
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whats the point if u return it they dont accept it.

johnkor said:
whats the point if u return it they dont accept it.
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Based on the images he posted somethings clearly wrong with it. The buttons not set in the device properly at all.

Same problem...

keemyb said:
Here are the pictures, hope they're good enough quality.
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From the pictures, i had the exact same problem. On day one, i was so happy to have the phone i looked passed it ( it was the very slightest bit sticking out ), then eventually a week later it really started coming loose, when you press volume up for example the bottom of the button would literally pop out and dangle.
In the end i arranged for a replacement the next day as i was illegible as i only had, had the phone for a week. What struck me is the elastics holding the volume rocker in place? thats the last thing i'd expect something made out of "metal" to be locking it in place.

Hi all,
i have the same problem. the volume rocker is not sticking to much out but you can definitely feel the difference between the upper and the lower side of the button. the upper side is like pushed in and kind of hard to press and you don't fell the "click" when you push the vol up. the lower side i slightly sticking out but you can fell the "click" when you push the vol down.
how do yours fell when pushing vol up?
i don't know if i should replace the device or not???
here are some pics of my problem
thanks

poetthd said:
Hi all,
i have the same problem. the volume rocker is not sticking to much out but you can definitely feel the difference between the upper and the lower side of the button. the upper side is like pushed in and kind of hard to press and you don't fell the "click" when you push the vol up. the lower side i slightly sticking out but you can fell the "click" when you push the vol down.
how do yours fell when pushing vol up?
i don't know if i should replace the device or not???
here are some pics of my problem
thanks
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I returned mine and I think you should too.
Works perfectly now, but not sure if it can last 20 months as my old one broke so early. Taking the greatest of care whilst touching the volume rocker now. Kinda sad that a device so expensive has quite a few cosmetic flaws.

Exact same issue with mine i dabbed some super glue ont he plastic and the metal. Its alot better now. Seen new buttons on ebay, has anyone tried these yet? How do you install them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORIGINAL-HTC-...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3cb89dd305

poetthd said:
Hi all,
i have the same problem. the volume rocker is not sticking to much out but you can definitely feel the difference between the upper and the lower side of the button. the upper side is like pushed in and kind of hard to press and you don't fell the "click" when you push the vol up. the lower side i slightly sticking out but you can fell the "click" when you push the vol down.
how do yours fell when pushing vol up?
i don't know if i should replace the device or not???
here are some pics of my problem
thanks
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In the picture you attached, the volume key lok in the correct place. However, the Aluminum or battery cover is not in the correct shape. I can see some distortion.