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Putting a different ROM on after 4.00.16

I was curious. I've noticed people said that if you put the 4.00.16 ROM on, the only way you can downgrade it, is if you reprogram the ROM from the SD card and not by the EXE method.
I was curious as to WHY? What does that .16 ROM do to the XDA to prevent you from doing an EXE rom reprogram?

So far, we lacked time to look into this one. Tell us, and we'll see if we can fix it.

Downgrade unseccesful using SD method from 4.00.16 ver
Sorry if this is OOT: I'm a non techie person so please somebody explain me how to use the SD card reflash metod to downgrade from 4.00.16 bact to 4.00.11 version. If write the new rom to sd using XDAtools it's done. after it I put it back the SD card back to the XDA. I enter the wallaby 5.17 screen by pressing power+ soft reset button. It said wait and then GSM ok after that freezze.
What I'm missing?

The why, I can't say as I have not investigated in detail, I just said to heck with it and bought a SD writer.
What happens after you load 4.00.05 and 4.00.16 is when you try to run and upgrade/downgrade/re-install from Prgramme-A or the newer programmer that came with the 4.00.x installs it fails saying it can't connect to the device, please check to make sure it's plugged in (even though there is a active connection with Activesync).
Using the SD card there is no issue with running the upgrade.
-rich

but what is it that .16 has that .11 doesn't that stops you from changing ROMs via the EXE method?
Also, after putting on .16 and you go back to say .11 via the SD boot method, are you able to use the EXE method to change ROMs after that?
Currently I use the AT&T A20 radio stack and was thinking about trying out the Tmobile 6.24 to see how it works out. Haven't decided yet.

Investigating the no reflash .EXE method
Ok I have found a roundabout method to resolve this only using the .EXE method.
I used the rom kitchen to generate me a 4.00.11 ENG WM2003. After flashing my phone and wanting to make sure i could revert I tried my origonal o2 provided flash upgrader "Radio_Unit_Upgrade_v31413.exe" and the latest downloaded one from the o2 website "Radio_Unit_Upgrade_v31703.exe" neither of which would let me flash them - i get the error "this rom is not for this device" (or some such).
I went back to the rom kitchen and built myself a 3.17.03 ENG O2-Euro rom image and flashed that onto the phone. this suceeded where the o2 stock .EXE failed and I was nearly back where I started.
Now that I had my rom kitchen 3.17.03 back on I tried to install the latest "Radio_Unit_Upgrade_v31703.exe" file again and was greeted with sucess once more!
The question this begs is the same as the origonal however, ok we can get the stock provider rom back on - but why will it let me flash the rom kitchen 3.17.03 back on and not my o2 downloaded rom? Hopefully the developers will be able to spot whats going on and sort it out in the kitchen (hopefully removing what ever right protection the new rom installs).
Hope this helps, shout if you want me to test with a specific rom version (for uk / europe phones) and ill give it a whirl for ya

I think the "official" rom checks for versions, whereas the roms from the kitchen use a modified bit of code called "adaptrom" to fool the software. I wish I had a tenth of the capabilities of the guys on here that work out all this stuff.

cruisin-thru said:
I think the "official" rom checks for versions, whereas the roms from the kitchen use a modified bit of code called "adaptrom" to fool the software. I wish I had a tenth of the capabilities of the guys on here that work out all this stuff.
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I'm not sure about this, but i will give you some hint, ok :?
The T-Mobile Rom has a protection to it that you can not upgrade any ROM except T-Mobile ROM's other than that if you have a version of rom that is not T-Mobile ROM you can use the adaptrom to normally update any kind of ROM because adaptrom ignores the Version like PW10A1:007, the explanation of this versioning is in this forum(some kind of country and GSM band 1800/900, 1900/900).
Now why we have to use SD card after we update T-mobile ROMs, if we want to change to another kind of ROM's, because if we use "exe" or sometimes we called it "Program A" it checks the version of the ROM's, since the adaptrom can ignore only the version of the ROM's it can ignore the Type of ROM's, if it is T-Mobile or other ROM's, now for SD card it doesn't check for any version or type, and it goes directly to updating the ROM's in the Bootloader way or we can call it forcely updating the ROM'
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Hop this help.

Hi Guys,
I need your help .
I've downloaded the 4.00.16 ROM by mistake, it really didn't tell the ROM number, so now I want to revert to a earlier one and I can't.
I've got the following message: "ERROR: GetDeviceData - An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.
error getting devicedata"
and then
"ERROR 011: EXECUTE REMOTE COMMUNICATION PROGRAM ERROR. Cannot execute the remote communication program. Please make sure that the USB/Serial cable is properly connected."
Stupidly, I haven't got a SD card. :evil:
PLEASE HELP ME, I'M REALLY STUCK NOW AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO...

Read the above post that starts like:
"Ok I have found a roundabout method to resolve this only using the .EXE method"
HTH

Qman said:
Read the above post that starts like:
"Ok I have found a roundabout method to resolve this only using the .EXE method"
HTH
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Hi Qman,
No matter which ROM I cook, when I try to install it using the .EXE it gives me the message I posted before.
Would you explain to me, idiots guide, how to flash not using a .EXE?
or, have you got any sugestions?

Lost rom SD card backup file-How to original downloaded rom?

I have lost the SD card backup before appling the 27 MB anakasy/MKS patch.
I tired to flash using the original clubimate downloaded 1.11 but after the same my STORAGE folder is missing.
Please help to slove this issue...

This is weird. I have twice done the Anansky and then installed another normal ROM on top of it, with no probles whatsoever. Maybe it's the I-mate ROM you are installing that's bad? Have you tried another ROM?

I have tried JAM 1.06 ROM and O2 1.11 ROM but no way get it work. Still same issue with storage.
One thing I noticed that before this issue I can flash the ROM after diabled the activesync and phone is normal mode. Now after this issue I have to switch the phone to boot loader for normal downloaded ROMs to start flashing.
Please help.....

Re: Lost rom SD card backup file-How to original downloaded
nishadks said:
I tired to flash using the original clubimate downloaded 1.11 but after the same my STORAGE folder is missing.
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It sounds like you're only flashing the radio+ce. Can you verify that there's a file called ms_.nbf in folder you're updating from?

Yes it contain all the three files ms_.nbf, nk.nbf and radio_.nbf...

I don't think you even should get to a point, where you can see which files are included in the installer. Just download the right ROM for your Magician and run it. Too often we see ppl having problem running a hacked upgrade and instead of just reverting to the original thing, they try to hack some more! Well, not all hacks works...
Other than that, I see 3 options as it is right now...
1. Redo the whole thing! Try to flash the Anansky and see if you can get that going. If you can, try running the normal ROM update afterwards. If it doesn't work...
2. You can ask for a kind soul with the exact same original branding as yours (I-mate, Qtek or whatever and same country) to upload a backup of his ROM. Overwrite the first 416 bytes from your own ROM and try to install this new ROM. If that doesn't work either...
3. Get the ROM flashed in a service centre.

Well.. You have something like ten active threads about this flying all over the net, yet when someone takes the time to try help you, you don't reply. You just move on to the next thread. If you don't take those trying to help you seriously, then I for one won't waste any more time on this...

I have solved my JAM's problem. Backed-up my friend's JAM ROM and restored in my JAM. Now everything working fine. Thanks a lot for all help...

HTC Alpine radio 1.04!!!

Here is rom with new Radio ROM 1.04
http://extendedsystems.dk/download/qtek/2020i/WWE_Sonofon_11100_165_10400_Ship.exe
Enjoy

Thank for the new radio, but some how I got country erro on the processing upgrade.
Please Help.

is this for the xda 2i please ..only asking as i'm not sure
thanks

This rom is only for Alpine phones, thats the 2i, 2020i etc.
As soon as my broadband is working again (tomorrow hopefully) I'll post the O2 162 rom with the radio 1.04 update for the UK users and anyone else who wants it.
If you want to try this update on the 2i you will need to extract the files from the installer and locate a copy of maupgradeut_noid.exe and use that instead of the included installer. There are better instructions elsewhere on this site, just do a search for my name, I'll be in amongst it all somewhere.

cheers i'll give it a go but if you are doing it maybe i'll wait ,i've only just gone back to your old 1 tonight as i don't use blackberry & it seemed better than o2 update

I have just posted the ROM upgrade on the ftp site, the only change is the radio from 1.03 to 1.04. It seems to give a better signal strength than version 1.03 on my phone anyway.
Here's the link to download the O2 version I just combined
(Edited to working link
ftp://xda:[email protected] XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
1: Backup your contacts/device to Storage, Storage Card or PC. If you are using Ext Rom 1.11.162 now you can use full device backup to restore at the end to save you re-installing all your programs later.
2: Extract the ROM using Winrar to a folder of your choice.
3: Run MaUpgradeUT_Noid.exe. The install will fail, don't worry, just run it again without touching the phone.
4: When the upgrade has finished, do a hard reset by pressing the power button and reset button at the same time.
5: Install any programs and any data you backed up during step 1.
Good luck.

Excellent stuff
Upgraded and now running 1.04 radio and i can also say it has improved my signal strength too
Big thanks Pug for your work on the ROM image too, very much appreciated.

Hear, Hear. Many thanks to Pug, great work!

many thanks to Pug,
its work perfectly.....no more lag of ringtones or lag after green button pushed!! thanks Pug.....
i want to know about backup, after upgrade ROM, i cant restore back by backup. When using Backup Sprite, i will go back to old ROM after restore complete. any ideas????

@ Clustered
When you say it goes back to the old rom do you mean that the Radio rom is regerted back to 1.03 or that your extended rom goes back to 192 or whichever you are using?
Sprite backup should not revert the radio rom back to 1.03 as it should only do the file system of your device.
As far as the extended ROM version, all it is there for is to indicate the "update" status of the extended ROM and what software is installed in it. An asian rom may have a higher rom version but may be no newer or better than the european 162 rom. You're talking about comparing hedgehogs to wibbles, completely arbitary. As soon as you cook the extended ROM like I have it is completely meaningless anyway as the version number is no longer valid.
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
If I have the wrong end of the stick, I apologise otherwise I hope this helps.

huh!? are u mad at me ??? anyway, i just wanna tell that you're the great! thanks very much....

I'm not mad at you, just woke up from a night shift....bloody binmen.
Was just trying to figure out which rom was reverting and so on. Hope it was of use to you anyway.
Once again, sorry.

HELP!
I Can't Upgrade the ROM.
step 1 is OK (radio)
Step 2 is OK (EXT):
Step 3 to 8 % PC show : Error 112: CE ROM UPDATE ERROR
WHY???
i run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe second Time , but frist Run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe Need to STOP(use TASK Manager)??
PLEASE HELP ME

thanks for the update ..it's upgrading at the moment

thanks for the update, the only problem i'm having is that even though i've got the in call volume as low as it will go it is still too loud to be comfortable which is a big change from the previous rom. Also when using in the car on handsfree the other person can hear his voice echoing as they speak. Any ideas????

Successfully upgraded my XDAIIi.....
I'm now with the latest ROM from O2 UK (1.11.169 WWE) and the Radio version 1.04.00

Hi, I'm from Malaysia and will this rom be able to use on my device?
I'm using XDA IIi and device id is PH10C.
I'm affraid there will be a problem for my local operator "Maxis".

@ ramnkc
To be honest I can't see a problem with this ROM working with your current operator. I'm pretty sure that others from your neck of the woods are using the ROM with no problems. The biggest problem you would have is that it wouldn't load all your GPRS, WAP, MMS, etc settings as it is a UK rom.
Make sure you can get hold of these settings off your current provider before you perform the upgrade. Or as an alternative, extract your current ROM and reload it back onto your phone using SD card.

thanks for the reply !
Well i guess i gonna wait for the official release coz so far i'm happy with it. Apart of the constant SD Card data missing after playback mid, mp3 or what ever music files from SD Card.
And i finally found out that it cause by SBP pocketplus which had an option to close all application once you tab on X. Once i turn that option off in pocket plus so far problem free.
Guys/gals out there have this problem ?

ykyloveu - Does this mean you have BB Connect as well? The only modified rom from here I can download is based on cer .112 The new rom for o2 with BBConnect is ver .169

I think i have finally made a brick

I did something really silly 2 days ago.
Playing with the HD, i was looking at the sd card and saw old 1.14 spl as an nbh file, and thought, i think i might go back o scratch and start fresh. So i knew running 1.56 roms, that i would get the green screen and thought, well i know how to fix that, and proceeded to update the spl first--- what a mistake that turned out to be.
Now i hear u say just hook it up to activesync-- well there is my second problem- activesync wont see the phone in any of 3 usb 2.0 ports on my laptop.
Put it into bootloader when hooked up, and i get the tri color screen and it says
Blac120 32M RUUNBH
SPL-1.14.0000
MicroP-Blackstone(LED) V6
Upgrade Rom Code error
Please try again
USB doesnt show at the bottom where it usually says Serial.
When i remove the usb cable, it says serial, and when i plug it back in, it wont disappear.
The phone will not do anything except go into bootloader screen everytime i turn it on.Even just by pressing on button, with sd dard removed. Once on, i have to remove the battery to turn it off.
My only option is if there is a stock rom with signed RUU nbh file that might trick it when i try uploading vioa sd card.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this problem?
Very appreciating Frank in Australia

"My only option is if there is a stock rom with signed RUU nbh file that might trick it when i try uploading vioa sd card."
You answered your own question. If you've got the bootloader, you don't have a brick. Do that, and you should be fine.

Budadank said:
"My only option is if there is a stock rom with signed RUU nbh file that might trick it when i try uploading vioa sd card."
You answered your own question. If you've got the bootloader, you don't have a brick. Do that, and you should be fine.
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Yeah i understand this,but what i really need to know is the stock rom- is it possible to download it as a Signed Ruu-NBH file so i can upload via sd card?
Thanks for your response
Still looking and trying to find it
Frank

I am not sure but i think you can extract the nbh file from the original htc stock rom.exe file.i do not want to say anything stupid but maybe after that you can update from the card.Someone correct me if i am wrong.
Good luck and keep us posted.

fordmav said:
Yeah i understand this,but what i really need to know is the stock rom- is it possible to download it as a Signed Ruu-NBH file so i can upload via sd card?
Thanks for your response
Still looking and trying to find it
Frank
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berbecverde said:
I am not sure but i think you can extract the nbh file from the original htc stock rom.exe file.i do not want to say anything stupid but maybe after that you can update from the card.Someone correct me if i am wrong.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Yes you can extract the nbh file from the shipped rom. On your pc, right click on the shipped rom.exe and select "Extract Files.....". Then rename the extracted RUU_signed.nbh file to BLACIMG.nbh, copy to your sd card and flash. Good luck.

disable <allow usb connections> in the connection settings of active sync.. this might be the reason..of thd not being detected on usb connection in bootloader mode!
use MTTY .. erases almost everything on ram except bootloader..
or u can flash a stock rom

Thank you everyone for your advice. I have now managed to extract nbh from stock 1.14 rom, wwe as i need, and it goes 1 step further by saying loading, checking and then an error or 020002 appears and says not allow
. So i wonder if this means hspl needs to be re-installed???
Frank

can i use stock rom from US t-mobile on EU leo?

Can i use stock rom 2.10 on my leo from uk?
if yes, where i can find it?
if not, briefly why...?
thanx.
i found that but it's freezing when i want to flash it...

You will need to use either hspl or sspl.
Originally Posted by Laurentius26
I see more threads and problems popping up according to people who flashed T-Mob 2.07.
A friendly warning I like to give just to help people.
1) Please don't flash this rom from storage card as it replaces your SPL and incase something happens it's very hard to fix!
2) Best way to flash a rom like this.
* Create a folder on you desktop and place shipped.exe in it.
* Now extract shipped.exe by right klicking it and choose ' extract here'
* Now remove all the files exept Ruu_signed.nbh
* Next take Custom Ruu which you can find in the stickies of this forum
* Now you can flash the rom using Custom ruu, it's the safest way.
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and whatever you do dont flash it from sd card, you will get your spl stuck at 2.0.

i forgot to say, that i'm using only gold card nothing else

well there are threads that show that even goldcard cant downgrade spl 2, so be careful, , take a look at the 'this and this and..' links in my sig

hmmm, id say not to risk it then...wait and see what someone else says though
EDIT: ^ there's someone else!