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[Question] GPS software

Hi all,
i would like to know what software do everyone use for their GPS navigation?
I am currently using google map, which i find it very difficult to use since my wifi and GPRS connection to internet doesn't know available wherever i use, so i have to preloaded all the image before i go to the destination.
but then, when i accidentally closed google map, and reopen, all image will need to redownload again. Moreover, my internet traffic is incredible expensive here in brunei throught GPRS... is there any software i can pre download and save all the image to my phone first before i travel?
this will be useful for me since, i often travel by car across different country and which the internet will not be availabel when i cross the border of country.
Thanks ^^

I just use Googlemaps or TomTom (preinstalled by my provider)
My provider is luckily enought so kind to give me unlimited internet access for only 10 euro's a month, and it's reasonable fast as well.
So I would suggest you find a better provider.
Maybe someone else knows how to download maps for you

good for you guys,
in my country, they only have two provider and it is own by royal family, and yes, they are trying to monopoly the whole market so we can only use slow and expensive provider...

Don't use google maps but gat navigation software with maps (IGO Navngo or Tomtom)

Google maps rely upon downloads to update - that is why they give it away free - because the phone company make a fortune on the downloads. It is OK for me as I have unlimited downloads as part of my package.
So you need proper sat nav software that comes complete with maps stored on the device. There are several on market - Tom Tom, Garmin, Igo etc etc. But you need to get one that has maps of your area - Tom Tom (market leader in Europe) for example does not even list a Brunei (or anywhere else in that area) map for their Navigator software.

On Course Navigator- no need for internet
Just get your map on your miniSD card and your good to go.

Royalty said:
On Course Navigator- no need for internet
Just get your map on your miniSD card and your good to go.
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And there lies the problem. AFAIK On Course Navigator is an American/Canadian product that only has maps for that area (according to their website) - so not a lot of good thousands of miles away in Brunei.
Its European equivalent is called Igo - and again that only sells maps of Europe (I think it goes as far East as Turkey!). So again no good!
I suggest you do your own research to find what sat nav systems supply maps for your area. Only then will you be able to decide which is best for you.

hhmm, thanks for the help
will try it out this few day. however brunei is a small country and i think it is quite difficult to find software support here..

Riel said:
Don't use google maps but gat navigation software with maps (IGO Navngo or Tomtom)
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Here is a question:
Which one do u like better and why, Tomtom or Igo8?

Garmin
I use Garmin for navigation and google for sat img navigation (nothing beats real pictures from above )
Garmin i use because its very storage space friendly. and its a great program. ill get some screenshots for you
Also if you buy by example a complete Europe map for Garmin, you can select which countries you want to have on your phone. So if you are going on vacation, you can just pull out that map from computer and transfer it to you diamond, and just erase it when you get back.
The dashboard is also nice

Garmin screens
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i like tomtom 7
i have benelux and west europe, it works great

+1 for Garmin Mobile XT. I find it has the best routing algorithm. It can also pull traffic information for certain areas through your 3G/EDGE connection (since the Diamond doesn't have traffic RDS). The only thing missing is TTS.
XT also supports 3rd party maps which is a big plus in case you live in an area where there are no commercial GPS maps available.
XT (and the basemap) is a free download from Garmin, and you can search for Brunei maps. Here's a thread with some more information:
http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=100455

iGo8.3 and Autosputnik - Russia and Europe
MioMap 2008 - for India
As for TomTom and Garmin - I really dislike the graphics compared to what iGo8 has to offer.

band27 said:
Here is a question:
Which one do u like better and why, Tomtom or Igo8?
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To find out which program would be better for you, you would have to look at the map coverage for your area.

i use tomtom navigator 7. it's fast, has much features and good support.

igo8 is the best GPS software, 3d buildings are beautiful, but you have to close manila to run it without lag. much better than the other apps, but it has only european maps as i know.

Is there a "perfect" GPS program?

I can't seem to find a GPS program that has every feature I'd want on it. I hear a lot of people talking about TomTom, or Igo8, or a few others, but it seems like there are one or two important things that each one lacks, for me personally. So, here's my GPS snob wish list:
compatible with Xperia (duh)
US Maps
Ability to download international maps for traveling
real time traffic updates, with ability to route around traffic, if possible
voice navigation, turn by turn directions
ability to reroute in case of wrong turn (fairly standard now, i know)
Ability to get address from contacts
FYI, i used "Mapopolis" on my Loox T830, but it seems that they have gone out of business, and though i still have the maps, i can't find the reinstall package, and even if i could, i've heard reports that it runs very slowly on wm 6.1 . I liked everything about it, except now the maps aren't updated and I don't think it did traffic updates.
anyway, if someone knows of some software that fits the bill, please let me know.
Ian

Let me add "fast" to your list.
I've got a X1i with "MyWayfinder" pre-installed. This software sucks soooo much, it's unbelieveable that it is not labeled as an alpha-Version. It needs minutes to start up, to find GPS-Sat's and crashes always.
Then there was T-Mobile Navigate, which I couldn't test because the map data costs you money. Pay-per-route, if you wish.

Why didn't you like Tom Tom Navigator 7 again?
To my knowledge it has every feature you want.
I'm currently using it and I'm really happy with the way it works.

Does the Tom Tom Plus service work with v. 7? The traffic feature seems to be part of the "plus" feature set, and they only show version 6. Speaking of which, is there any tangible bennefit to going with 7 instead of version 6?
The only other thing is that i didn't see where I could download maps for other countries, it is almost like they have two completely different packages...EITHER US/Canada OR everything else, but not both. I could be wrong though.
You're right though, TT does seem like the best option. I probably just need to decide whether to go with version 6 or 7.
Input?

Yes, the TomTom plus service works with version 7. You only need a valid account.
I didn't actually test the version 6 on the Xperia (I only had it on my P1 (symbian os)) but I know that version 7 will work on X1's WVGA screen without a problem (because I have it).
Other than that there aren't many changes between the two versions. The new features that I could spot was the "map correction" feature, you can change your car symbol (that's helpful ), you can have quick links on the nav screen...and it works faster that version 6. But then again that might be just because the P1 had 218Mhz )
You can buy individual maps for countries or for regions if you want. I only had Western Europe, so I don't know how it behaves when you have to change regions (if it does it automatically or not). Even so...given that a flight from US/Canada to Europe takes umm...6-10hrs depending on your location you have the time to go into Manage Maps and switch to your new map.
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Oh...and there's another new feature : "lane guidance" so that you know on which side of the road you should be driving )

Garmin Mobile XT has all that and works really fine, and it´s really fast also, in about 5 seconds y hace full satelite signal.

Henry_eue said:
Garmin Mobile XT has all that and works really fine, and it´s really fast also, in about 5 seconds y hace full satelite signal.
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2nd that, really happy with Garmin

I can tell you for a fact that tomtom7 works in the United States with the Xperia X1. It has turn by turn navigation all the way down to live traffic updates.
Basically all the features that you called for in your original post. The new version of tomtom 7.xxxx something 96 supports geotagging also. I havent stayed with that version because i was having some tomtom plus account issues which were weird. So i stuck with TOMTOM 7.910.9185

I saw TT6 on ebay for $40 or so, with dvd of all U.S. maps...i'll let you know what I think, thanks for all the suggestions.

so.....
I installed TTN6 on my xperia (rev 2), then did a soft reset after installation. All it can do is crash. So far, I'm not too pleased with it.
any suggestions?

sygic
Have you checked out Sygic? check out www.sygic.com and
http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/sygic...oftware-launch-usa-canada-january-2008-a.html

Henry_eue said:
Garmin Mobile XT has all that and works really fine, and it´s really fast also, in about 5 seconds y hace full satelite signal.
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Can I use Garmin Mobile XT with another microSDHC also? I have a 16GB card in my X1 and I do not want to exchange the cards to be able to navigate..

There's only one problem I can't seem to solve with TT7 and X1....
I got the SW up and running, including 1 downloaded city.
But, I can't get the maps I've bought onto the phone, there's no way I've found that makes TomTom Home recognize my X1 and connect to it..
If anyone has a fix for this, like e.g. making the X1 'present itself' to TT Home as some known HTC device etc, I'd be very happy to know of it.
Not warez question this one, I've bought and paid for the maps, and if the SW were availiable for me I'd gladly pay for that too!
Have asked Tomtom about this a number of times, but always got the same reply. "device not supported"...

You have to install TT7 to the memory card and use a card reader, then it should work.

DeepBlue23 said:
You have to install TT7 to the memory card and use a card reader, then it should work.
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OK, but how do I go about achieving that? My .cab installs directly to phone memory, no options shown for any other targets like SD card...
What TT Home can i use, provided I can get help and install to SD Card?

completelyhis said:
so.....
I installed TTN6 on my xperia (rev 2), then did a soft reset after installation. All it can do is crash. So far, I'm not too pleased with it.
any suggestions?
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Try TTN7, 6 won't work on your X1.

camiel1979 said:
Try TTN7, 6 won't work on your X1.
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That's wrong, whilst TomTom refuse to support the X1 it does work.

Now to complicate this a bit .. what about if I add geocaching into the basket ? Garmin XT is clearly oriented on car.

You should try Navitel (3.2.5+).
Lots of free maps and other stuff, navi is very cool, light, fast.
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i use garmin, no problem at all

What Is The Best Paid Navi App For USA TP2?

My head hurts from all the out-dated search info and ads i've been getting spammed with...
Is TomTom even selling a US version for WinMo? All I could find was one version for the GDMF'ing iPhone and the rest were international.
Does Garmin XT work in landscape mode yet? Do you still have to do a keygen hack to transfer it to your own sd card?
What do y'all think is the best paid app and is there that big of a diff between the best paid app and the best free one?
Is there an app avail that does the following?
turn by turn
text to speech
3d maps
landscape mode
installable on your own microSD card
Any help would be appreciated...

amAzeGPS
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amAzeGPS
I know its not a paid app but I'd take a look at www.amazegps.com. It has everything you are looking for. Its free and downloads the maps from the internet. One drawback is it is less intuitive on the address input and a little unstable when using other programs. Not too bad for free though.

TomTom....I love it.

I have been using Copilot Live 8 for almost a month now and i like it. Plus it was only 34.99 for the US and CA maps.

I am using Garmin Mobile XT Version 4.10.00wp and I love it. It works in portrait and landscape mode on my Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2. One of the nicest features is the real-time traffic. When I used TomTom Navigator this was a feature that you needed to pay for.
I have used the following GPS software:
TomTom Navigator
iGuidance
Navngo iGo 8
Garmin Mobile XT
GPSTuner
AmazeGPS
TomTom is nice because its a super easy to use interface, just like the TomTom GPS units themselves.
iGuidance is nice because it features text to speech (it will say turn left onto king street instead of just turn left.) The one major complaint I have is the UI looks like it was made by a child and keyboard is horrible.
iGo8 is visually stunning (featured 3D buildings and superb graphics) but a bit more complicated to do simple things like entering in a destination or finding a poi. I got frustrated with iGo8 very quickly.
GPS Tuner was nothing but buggy for me...
Garmin's Mobile XT is in my opinion the way to go for simplicity, style, and performance. The traffic feature is a huge plus, and like the TomTom's UI it is super easy to use. The onscreen keyboard is big enough so if you mount the phone in a cradle, you wont need to take it out to type in a destination.
Hope this helps, if you have any other questions feel free to PM me.
- Cheers

Ive been using IGO8 and i cant really see it getting much better than that.. It runs flawlessly on my tp2 with zero lag whatsoever... I would recommend this to anyone..

I'm all about CoPilot Live 8. As was stated before, it's only $34.99 and is full-featured. I was going to upgrade my iNav license, but after trying out CP8, I will stay with it.
J

Im using Ndrive, it works in landscape, different voice options and a pretty standard UI. I like it a lot

jok3sta said:
Ive been using IGO8 and i cant really see it getting much better than that.. It runs flawlessly on my tp2 with zero lag whatsoever... I would recommend this to anyone..
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+1 I love it and use it all the time. Its a very nice looking program, and cool to have the 3D buildings.

garmin is the best
TreyDizzle said:
My head hurts from all the out-dated search info and ads i've been getting spammed with...
Is TomTom even selling a US version for WinMo? All I could find was one version for the GDMF'ing iPhone and the rest were international.
Does Garmin XT work in landscape mode yet? Do you still have to do a keygen hack to transfer it to your own sd card?
What do y'all think is the best paid app and is there that big of a diff between the best paid app and the best free one?
Is there an app avail that does the following?
turn by turn
text to speech
3d maps
landscape mode
installable on your own microSD card
Any help would be appreciated...
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MOD EDIT
to offer warez on the forum is not allowed even..via pm
YOU ONLY GET ONE WARNING ON THIS MATTER

Telenav has text to speech but isn't run off your sd card. I'm currently using Garmin but doesn't have text to speech.

Garmin XT
Before I get my TP2 I was using Garmin Nuvi, After I bought Touch Pro2, I start to use NavTel. It was fine but limited for 14 days then they asked about 10 USD/month. So I changed my mind and turn back to Garmin. I bought Garmin XT. It works for me really well. Voice Prompt, 2D and 3D navigation maps, fast, Traffic and weather services. It is really good software. Only think about it If you need a bigger sd card you need to copy, paste and re unlock the software and maps in the new card.
But since you have the original card, It is Legal.

i love igo8... it looks amazing
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Sprint Navigation on the TP2 is free
With the TP2 on Sprint, it comes with free Sprint Navigation. a bit laggy, but not bad for $0.

I might be just stupid, but I've been trying to get Copilot Live 8 working on my TP2 for about a week now. I bought a 16GB SD card for the main purpose of storing the app and the whole North American map on it. I installed the App and activated it on my phone and downloaded the map via CoPilot Central, but it won't let me transfer it (the button is grayed out). The only thing that I can think of why it doesn't let me transfer is that CPCentral shows me only having 208MB free on my device, when the map is 1.01GB. How can I get it to see the SD card? I found the map files on my PC. Could I just copy them into the SD card? If so, where? I'm seeing something in Program Files and in the root of the card, but I'm not sure.
Anyone who's gotten this working, how did you do it?

Copilot live - Navigon - Sygic

Hi All
I want to purchase a GPS software for the Desire that does not need a data connection. I have read some reviews on the following Copilot live, Navigon, Sygic, however I am undecided which one works best for Froyo 2.2.
From the screenshots and specs, Navigon seems to be the best option although more pricy, however lots of people here seem to prefer CoPilot Live.
Anyone has good experience with these packages?
BTW I need it mainly for mainland Europe since I live in Belgium
Thanks for your opinions.

I use Copilot and I find it excellent. Serves me well in the UK, and was exceptional when I drove from the UK down to Spain - it's very cheap too for what it is.
I did download the 30 trial of Navigon as well, and whilst it seemed perfectly fine, it didn't seem to be as fully featured as Copilot.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks Dave for your reply. Most prob I will download the 30 day trial for Navigon and see how it goes.

I have tried both Navigon and Copilot.
Using Copilot now, and likes it very much...

Make sure you get Copilot 8.2 as 8.1 doesn't work on 2.1.
I have Copilot 8.2 on Froyo and works perfectly well. Love it.

i love sygic...the last 8.14 version runs faster and smoother, and choose the best routes.

I was facing the same issue too. I just recently got my Desire and it came with 2.2 Froyo. I used to use IGo on my Treo Pro and I liked it.
I picked up the Navigon program and I was blown off my feet when I used it. It is absolutely amazing on the Desire. I had a trial version of Copilot and didnt like it in comparison.
What I like about Navigon is that it is a no brainer to use and the 3d rendering and driving is fantastic.
I think you cant go wrong with it.

Sygic doesnt works with android 2.2 .

actually sygic does work with 2.2

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+1 for Sygic from me too.... Runs smoothly on Desire

+1 for Navigon
no problems...find sat very fast and the Graphics are very good and smooth
and it have Navtec cards
edit: maybe you make a poll in the thread
with kind regards..Alex

I'd say Sygic but everyone will say that his GPS app is also good so...try to look for trials and test them for a week.

At the end I went for Copilot since the feedback I got was more pro CoPilot. I have not tested it extensively yet, however I am quite happy with it

Copilot is great, but if you want to use it in your car with the sound going through the headphone socket into your stereo, you will find that the volume is way too low especially if you wanted to listen to the Desire's music at the same time.
Having said that, if you just want to use it as a standalone unit, it is loud enough, despite the Desire's speaker in other applications (including the speakerphone) being dismal!

Sygic blows.
3d view feels like 2fps, navigation made some horrible mistakes.
I'm using Navigon now but i'm not a fan of the handling.

Hi,
What about traffic information?
In TomTom, there is a strip to the right hand side indicating if there are problems on the route, whereas in CoPilot there isn't, and to be honest I can't see how the traffic on CoPilot works at all.
How does traffic work on Sygic or Navigon? I'm in the UK and there's been a really nice CoPilot traffic update much like what I describe for TomTom but it's only out in the US at the moment, so it's really about how Sygic and Navigon present and use traffic information to you.
Of course, if someone knows how to make CoPilot's traffic work please let me know!
Cheers,
Joe

shadow# said:
Sygic blows.
3d view feels like 2fps, navigation made some horrible mistakes.
I'm using Navigon now but i'm not a fan of the handling.
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That's cause of the default ini. In the ini file you can change the FPS to 30FPS making it super smooth.

joebongo said:
Hi,
What about traffic information?
In TomTom, there is a strip to the right hand side indicating if there are problems on the route, whereas in CoPilot there isn't, and to be honest I can't see how the traffic on CoPilot works at all.
How does traffic work on Sygic or Navigon? I'm in the UK and there's been a really nice CoPilot traffic update much like what I describe for TomTom but it's only out in the US at the moment, so it's really about how Sygic and Navigon present and use traffic information to you.
Of course, if someone knows how to make CoPilot's traffic work please let me know!
Cheers,
Joe
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I'm using Co-Pilot in UK and the live traffic info works quite well, and you can choose to navigate around the blockage. It's a subscription service though - £20 for 12 months, I've been doing a lot of driving the last few months and it's actually been very useful.

Happy with Sygic on froyo
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[Discussion] WM applications missing from Android

Most of people here has moved from windows mobile 6.5 to Android after this great revolution.
Did you have any programs in windows mobile that you are missing and wish to be on Android or you don't even know that they exists? maybe those are preventing you from completely switching to Android.
The purpose of this discussion is to help each other finding replacement tools and applications for some useful applications in windows mobile.
My applications that i missed from windows mobile:
* LMT : multitouch launcher - I've viewed a previous thread telling that it is not possible to create such an application, but in my opinion it could be done using the Accessibility services-
* g-trigger : Perform actions based on gestures with the phone. found some replacements as shake2* (shake to play next, shake to mute but those uses only one gesture with very limited actions) , tasker ( very hard to configure and record gestures)
* Garmin : I know there are many GPS applications but there is no one that can work offline, create custom map and provide 3D navigation. Since no GPS application is offering a map for my country. I usually use openstreetmap and offline map downloader to create vector navigation map for Garmin.
* And finally the reverse tethering (Internet Pass Through) just like what activesync was doing for non Desire HD/Z based ROMS (can't use them since they lack some Arabic support and are much slower than cyanogen and stock builds). I was able to reverse USB tethering to browse the web through my PC internet but many applications on Android won't run if there is no wifi or data connection is available -thinking of providing a virtual wireless interface but this needs more time -.
Do you know any replacements? or do you miss other applications from windows mobile?

Have you tried OsmAnd? Free satnav app which uses openstreetmap and consistently gets good ratings.

Forced to use wimo only by tomtom navigator or update build.

Use CoPiliot for offline GPS navigation - I do and it works great.

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Have you tried OsmAnd? Free satnav app which uses openstreetmap and consistently gets good ratings.
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Yes, I have tried it, but it didn't provide 3D navigation - I mean something like this
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Use CoPiliot for offline GPS navigation - I do and it works great.
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Unfortunately there is no maps for Syria

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Yes, I have tried it, but it didn't provide 3D navigation - I mean something like this
**PIC WAS HERE**
Unfortunately there is no maps for Syria
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Ahhh see living in the United States, CoPilot works flawlessly for me but it's definitely not my favorite. I really prefer iGO8 from WM but I have yet to find a similar GPS software for Android that is available in the United States.

maybe Navigon would be the best for me, but i'd really be glad to give it a test before spending 60€...

dharvey4651 said:
Ahhh see living in the United States, CoPilot works flawlessly for me but it's definitely not my favorite. I really prefer iGO8 from WM but I have yet to find a similar GPS software for Android that is available in the United States.
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Actually this image is from the internet
I live in Syria. IGO, AERO, CoPilot and Navigon do not provide a map or navigation for my country!
The good thing with Garmin is that it can give me the features of those applications with a custom map taken from a map source.

I only use WM for TomTom now (and not even that... I live in London and do not drive when in the city, so no need).
However I have yet to find an e-book reader as useful as AlReader2, although CoolReader is getting close. All of Android readers are either limited on file-type, have specific storage locations, or look ugly/have no night-mode when reading.
And I'm glad VPlayer has come along, as I was otherwise missing TMPCP or whatever that video player was called, and I didn't want to pay for RockPlayer.

im missing MyMobiler.. SOOO damn much!

As stupid as it may sound - Experiment 13! I loved that game.
+1 for mymobiler too

LoeWn said:
im missing MyMobiler.. SOOO damn much!
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Wow, I didn't know about this app! It looks very cool.
I think it should be any replacement for this application. You can see this for example, but it lacks file transfer.

kinsago said:
As stupid as it may sound - Experiment 13! I loved that game.
+1 for mymobiler too
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same for me for MyMobiler. not sure of any good Android alternative.

medical programs...........uptodate, sanford, and others

nghockcheng said:
same for me for MyMobiler. not sure of any good Android alternative.
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Doesn't Droid Explorer have a window for viewing the contents of your Android screen? (Screencast plugin)

Missing:
1. the calculator of Wm6.5 and the new WM7, they are great.
2. the way WM6.5 (don't know what WM7 does) groups contacts, the 2 versions of Android I tried do not work well for me.
3. don't like HTC Sync it is too unstable and has too many requirements (I had to setup an XP disk just to load my contacts and it was painful), prefer Active Sync it works on any OS
4. battery drain for WM is about 5% overnight with the 2 Android builds it was close to 60%, simply unacceptable.
5. flipping only 1h2m on the darn clock every time you look at it, Android starts from 12:00 and goes to 23:59 that drives me crazy
6. versions of Android that are out seem to be too unstable for my taste and the last one completely crashed my HD2 and had to reinstall radio and rom and had a hard time doing it. Now I am back to stock radio/rom of WM6.5 until everything on an Android build is stable.
On the other hand
1. locking out WAP was easier on Android
2. miss the digital clocks of Android
3. setup was easier on Android
4. the message balloons were easier to see