Xperia X1 vs. Touch pro - XPERIA X1 General

Hi guys im thinking of buying one of these today, anyone able to tell me their views of which one is stronger. my main needs are:
good signal strentgh
battery life
user friendly
stability
thanks

guys i knwo there are other posts out there abotu this comparison but what i really want to know is whether or not this is fully customisable like the touch series (diamond and pro) i.e. do you install and run cab etc just the same? is it wm based exactly the same?
thanks

patterns said:
Hi guys im thinking of buying one of these today, anyone able to tell me their views of which one is stronger. my main needs are:
good signal strentgh
battery life
user friendly
stability
thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430937&highlight=touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451476&highlight=touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441550&highlight=touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434411&highlight=touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441134&highlight=touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424299&highlight=touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428269&highlight=touch
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And yes.. WinMo = WinMo

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advice needed on software upgrade

Hi guys
Been looking around the rom section but I am really lost.
I have a HTC Touch with original rom, approx 18 months old. The wife has been using it. Now I have got me hands on it and am looking to upgrade the rom to an all singing one.
I have had a look at the rom section but dont really know what I am looking at, so this is where I was hoping you guys could help.
I basically need the following
A rom that isn't too harsh on memory, as I don't really wanna slow down the device.
Something that improves the bluetooth, as I have had a few dropouts with it, and my bluetooth gps unit is crrently hit and miss, with 8/10 it always showing no gps device, even though I KNOW it is installed correctly.
Also a nice home screen, I quite like the diamond setup, but maybe this cannot be achieved without something like mobile shell.
Also any rom that generally improves performance, battery, touch flo etc...
Guys this may sound like I cant be bothered to look but I really do need some help from the experienced here.
So thanks in advance and I look forward to your help.
rom
salv90 said:
Hi guys
Been looking around the rom section but I am really lost.
I have a HTC Touch with original rom, approx 18 months old. The wife has been using it. Now I have got me hands on it and am looking to upgrade the rom to an all singing one.
I have had a look at the rom section but dont really know what I am looking at, so this is where I was hoping you guys could help.
I basically need the following
A rom that isn't too harsh on memory, as I don't really wanna slow down the device.
Something that improves the bluetooth, as I have had a few dropouts with it, and my bluetooth gps unit is crrently hit and miss, with 8/10 it always showing no gps device, even though I KNOW it is installed correctly.
Also a nice home screen, I quite like the diamond setup, but maybe this cannot be achieved without something like mobile shell.
Also any rom that generally improves performance, battery, touch flo etc...
Guys this may sound like I cant be bothered to look but I really do need some help from the experienced here.
So thanks in advance and I look forward to your help.
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hi for a touch the one of the best touch essential v3.5 stable fast memory good chek it out and the touch of hd is also good
grtz weesje
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Is there a link for that rom?
Any other good ones? Wouldn't mind one that has YouTube app also.

Tattoo vs Pulse

Hello all,
I'm about to get a new phone but I need a little help making my mind up. As the title suggests I'm looking at the pulse and the tattoo.
I don't see any mention of the pulse on this site. Is there any rom development for it?
And the tattoo is really lacking development but at least I see some are trying.
Do any of you have any suggestions for my dilemma?
You wont find the pulse here because xda dev does not accept non htc phones (...yet).
Pulse has root, tattoo not. I guess you will find custom roms for the pulse on other sites dedicated to android. And to my knowledge, tattoo cant accept custom ROM yet (because of no root).
But on the other side, htc is a big brand that you can trust and I personally own a tattoo which is solid phone. I do not have any problem with it and I love it despite of the lack of development.
Huawei is new on the android market and to be frank I never heard of it before the pulse. But from what Ive read here and there, it seems to be a reliable phone too. Only thing I heard is that the battery life is kind of low.
Personally I would go for the tattoo but it is a personal opinion. It all depends on you, both choices are not bad.
Thanks yash. I think i will end up going for the tattoo. Mainly because it's HTC.
Also the battery life. I see lots of mentions to how good the tattoo battery life. Currently have the Diamond so a decent battery would be very nice.
em0hawk said:
Thanks yash. I think i will end up going for the tattoo. Mainly because it's HTC.
Also the battery life. I see lots of mentions to how good the tattoo battery life. Currently have the Diamond so a decent battery would be very nice.
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battery life is not so great unless you make sure you turn many of the services off
the goes news is that Paul (modaco) has bought one, so root willbe round the corner .....
why not just wait it out for the new bravo?
The bravo isn't a budget phone. There's a recession don't you know!
I own a htc tattoo and I have to say that battery life is generally good, even with heavy usage i get through at least a day. The resistive screen is extremely nice, it requires only a little pressure. The tattoo also has a 3.5mm headphone jack and natively has the sense ui, so unless you want the bigger screen i would have to suggest the htc tattoo.
But frankly am not a big fan of sense ui, I feel it sometimes eat up ram uselessly.
Its not as resource heavy on the qvga screen. i generally have around 40meg ran with multiple programs running as reported by taskkiller.

Is OMNIA 2 Worth it??

Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my Xperia X1, that still is a great phone, but I wanted something faster.
I am considering Omnia 2, because of the battery life. As it carries the same battery capacity as Xperia, I would like to know how it performs.
My other choice was HTC HD2, but when I heard that I could not be sure it would even last me one day, I started looking for something different.
I want a WM phone, as all the programs I have (like GPS Tomtom) run on WM and I am used to it right now.
When I read some reviews about Omnia 2, I got the impression that the Samsung skin is slow and not very useful. I would like to ask if there are some good ROMS for it that solve the problem, and if you think it is worth moving from X1 to Omnia 2, or should I just go HD2.
Thank you all for the input.
UI performance with rom that my O2 shipped (I8000NIL5) was poor. Every time you switched screen widgets reloaded and this took time - just watch some review video and you will know what am I talking about.
Now I am using I8000NJD3 rom (by the way, it is WM 6.5.3) and UI runs smoothly. It is really a big difference! Plus you can choose between widgetplus and samsung today home screens (like work and life mode with B7610). Samsung's cube and main menu are gone but if you ask me they were useless. Also all the programs are updated but there is still room for enhancements.
For me, battery lasts for 2 days - hour or two of conversation, few messages and some web browsing using wi-fi. Decent performance I think.
Well with heavy use I can not get through all day without charging but that is the story with all phones on market.
You mentioned GPS program. It takes few minutes to get a fix on cold start on a sunny day.
And, when I bought a new phone I was choosing between O2 and HD2 too. Decided for O2 because I got it for ahalf of HD2's price (talking about carrier's price, not retail!). I am pretty satisfied with decision.
I had the same choice as well and chose the O2 over the HD2.
I am happy with my little "Sammy" as well.
Mr Frog
I think my Omnia 2 (i920) battery has only died once since having the phone since December. I use internet and messaging pretty heavily daily. I have no problem getting a day to two days worth out of a full charge.
The samsung widget interface isn't the best, definitely laggy and widgets are unresponsive or disappear at times.. but that's why I don't use it
There are tons of other UI's though, the one I've been using and like the best is throttle launcher..
The thing I like most about Omnia 2 is the swype keyboard, makes typing really fast once you get used to it.
The one issue I have had with this phone is that incoming phone calls or text messages will sometimes go unnoticed. That is because the ringer will not sound, yes even when volume is on full. It seems a lot of other people have been having this problem too.. It happens about 40% of the time and is rather annoying.
If I had a choice between HD2 and this phone I would definitely not purchase this one again. Overall it is a good phone, I am just tired of Omnias (had Omnia i910 too). They seem to be late to market with features and so on, not really ahead of the curve..
mchaves44 said:
The one issue I have had with this phone is that incoming phone calls or text messages will sometimes go unnoticed. That is because the ringer will not sound, yes even when volume is on full.
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Never had this problem. But I have I8000, not I920.
out of the box this phone (i8000) is a peace of **** that you will just want to throw away. But thanks to cookers that issue is solved this phone dose everything you need. Using a custom lite ROM i get around 100MB of usable memory vs the 40MB on stock. I read many reviews on this phone as well and was a bit worried about it but took the plunge and could not be happier, the fact it had such bad reviews made it that much more cheaper when i went to purchase a new phone. So in the end it was a great deal for me and the hardware is still amazing for this phone, yeah it not your 1GHz snapdragon but still good enough. I just hope samsung do not forget out this phone and continue to support it, mainly adding openGL support. They have been very good with updates thus far and now its 6.5.3 so it getting better.
This phone has 2 major problems
1.) Low RAM which can be fixed by using a lite ROM, although i hope future updates reduce the reserved RAM.
2.) OpenGL driver, this phones dose not have any. I did not take this into account when i bought the phone. I thought it would just work and all apps won't have any issues and i was wrong. There are devs working on the drivers like chainfire and they do fix many apps like sences and the such but again its not fully featured drivers.
So if you buy this phone you will have to flash and tweak it to get a everyday usable phone.
p.S wtf how do you guys have swype as the default keyboard?
jebise101 said:
wtf how do you guys have swype as the default keyboard?
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Only I920 has Swype preinstalled.
ohh i wonder if i can get my hands on a cab
Thank you very much for the input. It was very helpful to see what users think about their devices. It makes me sad to see such a great phone, with an OLED screen and a big batterylife, with such poor software. I like WM phones, and I do not think I will switch to android that fast, but the only usable WM phone is HD2 and that has a battery life of an hybrid car (2km just on battery). If you use it moderatly it will not even last you one day.
I hope that this phone will at least have good gps tracking, better batt life, and that with a custom rom it will be faster then my Xperia X1.
If anyone wants to add something new about this phone, just post it here.
jebise101
jebise101
This phone has 2 major problems
1.) Low RAM which can be fixed by using a lite ROM said:
Where did get the lite ROM?
I need to do the same thing on my i8000 also.
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Many here currently using kydkylin sence ROM although its a bit slow still a lot faster then stock, just avoid using the music tab if you want to keep RAM usually have 50-60MB after full day. Or if you want the litest ROM there is tw2 JE1 gives around 103MB on boot.
Thanks a lot.
how can i upgrade to jd3?
hi guys
i m a new omnia2 user. need help with upgrading.
my phone is originally from netherlands and came with wm 6.1
i upgraded to JC rom using pc studio and 3 days later PC notified
that i had an upgrade.
again upgraded and i got IL5 now. NPS says i have installed the latest version!
so how can i get the latest rom, pls. and i wont to do it officially.
(no cooked roms)
thanks
monsterfly need help pls
monsterfly said:
UI performance with rom that my O2 shipped (I8000NIL5) was poor. Every time you switched screen widgets reloaded and this took time - just watch some review video and you will know what am I talking about.
Now I am using I8000NJD3 rom (by the way, it is WM 6.5.3) and UI runs smoothly. It is really a big difference! Plus you can choose between widgetplus and samsung today home screens (like work and life mode with B7610). Samsung's cube and main menu are gone but if you ask me they were useless. Also all the programs are updated but there is still room for enhancements.
For me, battery lasts for 2 days - hour or two of conversation, few messages and some web browsing using wi-fi. Decent performance I think.
Well with heavy use I can not get through all day without charging but that is the story with all phones on market.
You mentioned GPS program. It takes few minutes to get a fix on cold start on a sunny day.
And, when I bought a new phone I was choosing between O2 and HD2 too. Decided for O2 because I got it for ahalf of HD2's price (talking about carrier's price, not retail!). I am pretty satisfied with decision.
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pls tell me how to upgrade to jd3 officially. my phone is from netherlands, and the upgrade i got today was to IL5, which is an old one. (am i right?) but they indicate that i have the latest rom installed!
pls help me out
thanks
kanishkapd said:
pls tell me how to upgrade to jd3 officially. my phone is from netherlands, and the upgrade i got today was to IL5, which is an old one. (am i right?) but they indicate that i have the latest rom installed!
pls help me out
thanks
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I posted answer in this thread you started.
As said there, roms mentioned there are made by Samsung but can't get them via PC Studio, so I don't know if I can say that this is official upgrade (decide by yourself ).
jebise101 said:
out of the box this phone (i8000) is a peace of **** that you will just want to throw away. But thanks to cookers that issue is solved this phone dose everything you need. Using a custom lite ROM i get around 100MB of usable memory vs the 40MB on stock. I read many reviews on this phone as well and was a bit worried about it but took the plunge and could not be happier, the fact it had such bad reviews made it that much more cheaper when i went to purchase a new phone. So in the end it was a great deal for me and the hardware is still amazing for this phone, yeah it not your 1GHz snapdragon but still good enough. I just hope samsung do not forget out this phone and continue to support it, mainly adding openGL support. They have been very good with updates thus far and now its 6.5.3 so it getting better.
This phone has 2 major problems
1.) Low RAM which can be fixed by using a lite ROM, although i hope future updates reduce the reserved RAM.
2.) OpenGL driver, this phones dose not have any. I did not take this into account when i bought the phone. I thought it would just work and all apps won't have any issues and i was wrong. There are devs working on the drivers like chainfire and they do fix many apps like sences and the such but again its not fully featured drivers.
So if you buy this phone you will have to flash and tweak it to get a everyday usable phone.
p.S wtf how do you guys have swype as the default keyboard?
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I quite agree with most points made here, but there's a lot more to this phone than what you get out of the box.
Once you've registered on this and Modaco's forum the possibilities are virtually endless with the i8000.
When I first got this phone I nearly sent it back because of the lagging and I fancied an Android device( I still hunker after the Galaxy S now ) but I have stuck with the i8000 and I am very happy with it thanks to the great people cooking roms out there!
Omnia II is wonderful
I think this phone need excellent people to cook for it. I'm waiting for Energy ROMs to come.
* The camera is realy nice with alot of features to make nice pictures.
* Video recording is wonderful with 720 pixels recording. "I used daiamond, touch pro & HD from HTC. I will tell you it is wonderful and the difference is big.
* The samsung applications are nice and you will see tha the samsung taste is there in all applications. Sometimes you will forget yourself as being using WM!!. It is another taste.
* The battery is really having good life of more than one day for sure
* The processor is 800, the screen is much better then that of HTC.
* Samsung is producing official firmware nearly every month and although it was originally coming with wm 6.1 but it is officially upgradable to 6.5
* with the new firmware coming last July the free ram is nice. With good cooking it will go more.
* The performance is rely fast and rarly you need to do soft reset.
In summary, When excellent cooking coms to this device it will be more wonderful.
Thanks

XperiaX1 - Sad sad phone

Hi all,
Just want to say some things about the xperiax1. Don't get me wrong, its a great phone but not many xperiax1 users are left.
And now even the X1 forum is left in a stagnant state with few posts. Not much custom roms are left, and the android builds have almost stopped completely. Developers have got new phones and switched to another forum. Sadly most users followed suit. That leaves us few who are die hard fans. Even support from Sony Ericsson has long gone.
Well i also confess that I myself have also obtained an HD2 and is happily running an android rom from nand (internal storage), I will still keep my X1i as spare. Hope that the last X1 users still keep using the X1.
Anyone has any thoughts? Pls share...
I'm quite happy user of X1 (although I have some mechanical problems with phone turning off randomly) and I'm satisfied with it. I think that most of the winmo devices are in some stagnation because of Android and WP7
but the existing roms are good enough and there is some android dvelopment here and on the neopeek.com
Some builds are ready for everyday use like FRX04 or CM6.1 but withsome problem like no camera or locking buttons but development is done on this.
So... I'm almost big fan, I like my X1, it nice in use, looks 'pro' and it was my first real smartphone
But almost 2 years is century in consumer electronics, especially in phones o If it would be possible, i'd like to change X1. But, for now, I dont have money.
heck, I just bought another x1 (see sig below) far as I'm concerened not to many of the new phonees outshine the x1, but yeah times change, screens get bigger and people move on.....however I'll keep flashing old roms and keep my x1 even after I make the leap.
SEX1 forever
strboy said:
heck, I just bought another x1 (see sig below) far as I'm concerened not to many of the new phonees outshine the x1, but yeah times change, screens get bigger and people move on.....however I'll keep flashing old roms and keep my x1 even after I make the leap.
SEX1 forever
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Good to hear that, but all I want to have is an android platform. X1 android development is without post for days of new kernel/build. Even my favourite custom rom developer had stopped due to his X1 being stolen. Guess its almost a necessity to change...
826x rom
calvinfoo said:
Good to hear that, but all I want to have is an android platform. X1 android development is without post for days of new kernel/build. Even my favourite custom rom developer had stopped due to his X1 being stolen. Guess its almost a necessity to change...
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826 x rom still continuing until now... Im using the new Rom wm6.5 build 29007 with sense 2019... and new stock spl 0.78. its more stabel and good/long batery life...
Xperia X1 till death!
ilgreco112 said:
Xperia X1 till death!
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yes.... Xperia X1 till death...
I'm very happy with my X1. maybe it's old device, maybe it comes with old OS (WM6.1), maybe it have some crack issues (mine don't have any). but anyway i love my device. I don't care about how many custom ROMs for this device, but I now there're good ROM series - gtrab's PURE, BAROBONE; Willy's 826x ROMs, ultrashot's Dynamics ROMs.
For short time i used HD2, but I can say none of WM devices as good as X1.
I love its keyboard and using it so much! even best HTC phones like - HD2, Desire, Desire HD, Nexus One, Nexus S don't have any hardware keyboard.
I don't think to change my X1 for now. I don't think to sell or change it to another device.
The only device is SE XPeria Pro that I plan to buy as primary device.
ilgreco112 said:
Xperia X1 till death!
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YEAH!!!
Love my xperia x1...
This has been my first windows phone and I have loved it since i bought it.It has really taught me how much freedom is actually there to customize and alter the looks and feel if you put your mind to it... WinMo 6-6.5 just rocks when it come to customisation and i dont think the android community is stagnant.... slow maybe but what would you expect for a phone which just barely cuts through the bar of being a smartphone in this era of superpowered mobiles.
I love my X1 !!! You can do soo much to it xD .. It's highly customisable. At the moment i am running the latest 826x wm6.5 build 29007 with sense 2019 also dual booting with 2.2.2 froyo
X1 can easily handle android rom, but offcourse it will never be as fast as the other phones out there. Just need someone to come out with a perfect ROM for x1 which works for all.
X1 is just perfect . Yes, its customisable, best keyboard and it looks cool with metal design. Screen to use with all weathers.
And next going to test some roms.
Got this phone today used for 50 bucks.
I'm playing with it a lot. It's highly customizable and I love the hardware keyboard.
The best would be having a complete working android froyo version without any compatibility issue to be used every day.
I hope programmers don't stop working on this high quality phone
what android rom most stable and smooth? I just can't find best one from these.
important for me. Camera, bt, wifi, smooth and good battery life.
ramhead said:
what android rom most stable and smooth? I just can't find best one from these.
important for me. Camera, bt, wifi, smooth and good battery life.
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There plenty of roms around which are all good..you will just have to try which one works best on ur X1 as it varies alot. My X1 works with gingerbread alpha5 ..
For camera there are many kernels around but i dnt think the quality is that good yet
Sent from my Gingerbread by Neopeek using XDA App

[Q] Camera on Ultrafruit

Toying with the idea of changing back from my 4s to an HD2 now some wp7 strides have been made.
Major problem before was the camera - I noticed on Ultrafruit it is significantly improved, but could anyone tell me if the flash now works properly?
Also general opinions on the state of wp7 on the hd2 at present would be great.
if you think to use WP7 on HD2, then flash Pdamatejam ROM.... this ROM is Ultrafruit based bud fixed major bugs from Ultrafruit....
pictures is very good, no green ink anymore when use flashing, also have option for autozoom on point where click on screen
Battery life any better? And I assume the 720 recording is still there?
Really want a Lumia but like the bigger screen and flexibility of the hd2 and it's a damn site cheaper.
nikc0069 said:
Battery life any better? And I assume the 720 recording is still there?
Really want a Lumia but like the bigger screen and flexibility of the hd2 and it's a damn site cheaper.
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battery life depend which radio you use.... best is 2.12/5.52 and 2.15/5.51
yes, 720p recording work
Sounding like I'll probably go for it. So WP7 is as good as native now?
nikc0069 said:
Sounding like I'll probably go for it. So WP7 is as good as native now?
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still have few bugs (but nothing important)... only problems can be if SDcard not 100% supported....
i use WP7 6 month and for me WP7 always is better than Android....
Thanks for all the info. If you would be so kind, what are the remaining bugs?

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