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Text message thread issue

Hey guys,
I just recently bought my TD2 just over the weekend...and when receiving text msgs from my friends, there's this 4 hour difference in the time stamp. For example, I'll send a text msg at 10pm, and when I receive a text msg five minutes later, the time stamp will be 6:05pm.
Would anyone know what the issue would be? Cause I'm really stumped by this. I even sent text msgs to myself from my phone carrier's website and it's the same thing, the time stamp is 4 hours behind what it actually is..
Any suggestions or ideas is greatly appreciated. =)

I'm fairly sure the time stamp for incoming text messages is dependent on the time your service provider says it was sent, not the time your phone actually receives it. So if your network provider is based in a city with a different time zone your incoming text messages will be time stamped at the time the message was sent in said time zone, not your own.
I'm not sure if there are any settings to change this as I haven't really looked in to it a great deal. It's just kind of annoying and can make conversation threads kind of pointless.

my network provider is based in the same city as me, so there shouldn't be any discrepancy in terms of time zone.
I'm starting to think it's a WM6.1 bug or something like that. I've tried hard resetting it but it doesn't work. I've also tried putting in a different sim card from a different network provider and the issue is still there.
so..im stumped even more...

you could send a notification to HTC. I've been reading these forums for some time now and I haven't encountered anyone with the same problem. Or, then again, I might be mistaken ...

4 hours does seem a bit extreme. Do you have any friends on the same network as you? Can you check the time stamp on a message that you've sent to their phone to see if it shows the correct time?
I only say it's network dependent because I know that when my country has daylight savings time the timestamps for all of my messages get messed up, but when daylight savings time is over it's fine.

It depends on the service provider.
Some service provider use the time the msg is pushed to your phone, while others use the time when the message is sent. So, if your sender is in a different time zone, there may be a time difference.

I've checked with friends that are on the same service provider. The text msgs i send them have the correct time.
I even send myself a text msg to see and it'll be the same thing again. sending it to myself is just as mind boggling cause i receive my own msg right away, and time stamp is 4 hours behind still. -_-;;;

Did u set any "Visiting Time"? I never encountered this since I bought my TD2 last month. Guess it could be related to service provider?

Landice said:
Did u set any "Visiting Time"? I never encountered this since I bought my TD2 last month. Guess it could be related to service provider?
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No, I believe you can only set either Home or Visiting Time...
I flashed my phone with cooked roms hoping that bring it to WM6.5 would fixed the issue, but it hasn't worked...

Is your problem solved yet? I've the same problem and I've done everything nothing works, I guess i've to live with it. Mine shows 40 mins difference which is very annoying.

no luck at all.
I just played around with the time zone settings. i just put the time zone setting to est-1 since it's est -5 where i am. and then i just brought the time back 4 hours and it matched...but aside from that..nope..nothing.

Text messages are coming in at wrong time

I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!

same here ...

goth_boarder said:
I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!
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Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.

Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!

padlad said:
Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!
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Urgh, I reckon I'm gonna do an exchange in the 28 day period when we get them back in stock and see if that sorts all, or at least most, the problems out, just having a new phone from new batch.

i had this problem.... tooo
it really terrbile as i wont able to know which is my sms with his reply

Ive got this too, i'm on O2 UK and messages i receive are all 2-3 minutes too early and so put the text conversation out of sync.

This has happened a couple of times to me, but usually leaving the SMS app and then going back in fixes it.
Either that or the person who you're texting has the time wrong on their phone.

ya they maybe set wrong timing.. but is petty hard to find ppl who had the time timing as ur hahah
so the sms should be basic on our clock

i used to have screwed up SMS conversations too. you guys can try installing the SMS fix. it is working for me for now.

SMS fix from where??

from HTC.com

i installed but it doesnt not fix for me

Any chance there's a daylight savings time mix up?

no... my time was setting correctly..
there is only one clock setting how can it mix up??
somemore is from same zone..

no fix for this?

I have had this problem too.
Try setting your clock right...
You can do something like: when receiving a message check its time and change yours to match that one...
It should solve the problem.

i just got the tmo us hd2 and it seems only after midnight some peoples texts start coming in a day previously. i just had 3 conversations and one person came at the right time, and the other 2 came as if they were 24 hours behind

I've had the same problem recently, I just assumed it was an O2UK problem, I had it very occasionally with my Diamond.
It's fine at the moment, so I just put it down to peak text time. Lol.
*edit* HA! I just got a text as a was writing this post, it's now 10:15am and the text is time stamped 08:53am, I should have touched wood!

goth_boarder said:
Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.
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Sorry but htis has nothing to do with the phone.
Im on O2 germany and everything works fine.
Maybe your setup was wrong or your provider has an issue.
SMS faults are mainly providerissues.
I dont know which rom you are using but i dont have any issue with the updated stock rom.

not registering the network time

hi
Have any of you guys experienced that the automatic time setting (the time the actual network sending) doesn't work?
I set mine to automatic so that i didn't have to do anything regarding setting the local time and dates..
The reason why i'm asking is that sitting here 1hour before i actually had to get up hence it did not register the network time
Can anyone check or confirm?
-TB-

I noticed that time and date were set, but time zone was 2 hours off. Had to set it manually...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

I had the exact same problem (GT-i9000 SIM unlocked, on vodafone UK), I waited a few hours and the time was still saying it was hours ahead and in tomorrow (!!)
I ended up setting the time manually then re-selecting the network option. Not sure if that will help keep good time or not .... so far so good.

miker71 said:
I had the exact same problem (GT-i9000 SIM unlocked, on vodafone UK), I waited a few hours and the time was still saying it was hours ahead and in tomorrow (!!)
I ended up setting the time manually then re-selecting the network option. Not sure if that will help keep good time or not .... so far so good.
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^^thats exactly what i experienced.. unlocked phone as well..
Maybe it has something to do with the phones not being branded?
But for now i haven't ticked the network time.. Ill let you guys know what happens
-TB-

yeah same problem finally had to set it manually, shame. Why did I sell my black desire for this piece of trash!
Thankfully i didn't buy it on contract otherwise would have been lumbered with this crap for 18 months.

Strange mine works fine on Vodafone UK. Just won't display the phone number, Wonder if its because I ported from orange

Lamatrast said:
Strange mine works fine on Vodafone UK. Just won't display the phone number, Wonder if its because I ported from orange
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Seems to me that the initial release of this phone has been quite buggy. I'm still on the shipped firmware (JF3), though might go for a MoDaCo kitchen cooked ROM at some point.
Previously I had a Nexus One and that took time from the network fine.

Same thing happend to me. When I started the phone for the first time, it didn't update the network time at all. after some time it came, but it's very various when it works or not.

[Q] Wrong time stamp on SMS Messages.

Hi there,
I live in Australia and today daylight savings for us has just started. We were supposed to put the clocks one hour forward and that is exactly what I did. My time is correct everywhere besides incoming sms messages. They are time stamped exactly an hour behind to what the current time is; i.e my old time. This is a huge inconvenience because when I'm having a conversation via sms, I will send a message and it'll be correctly timestamped and then I'll get a message back time stamped an hour behind, so when I'm looking at the sms messages I have to scroll up to read the newest one received.
I am currently on Tom Codons ROM and a I have just installed the "SMS fix" which I knew wouldn't do anything because Tom Codons ROM is based on the newest ROM available. Is there a way to fix this issue?
Any help is appreciated,
Alex

The way i understand it, the received SMS time-stamp is taken from the network system. Not from the phone clock. At least, that's how it works in our country.
Of all the phone i used, including HD mini, they always work that way. Except a couple of generations of Sony Ericsson feature phones, which would base the time-stamp from the phone's clock. (But the network's time-stamp still show up in the details of the sms.)
Maybe the network needs to adjust their system.

Hey there,
Thanks for your quick reply we shall see if the network systems clock has been changed in the upcoming days.
Thanks
Alex

You're welcome.

Hey all,
I have encountered a similar problem. If I receive 2 SMS of the same contact and I reply, if that all happens in the same minute (and it does ), HTC's Message-stuff puts the messages in the wrong order.
For example, I got an SMS and then I got another, then I reply, HTC will put them in this order:
SMS 1
My Reply
SMS 2
Instead of
SMS 1
SMS 2
My reply

That's because your phone time does not match the network time. Maybe off by a few minutes. Your sent message is stamped with phone time, logically. And received message is stamped with network time. So if you're engage in a continuous exchange, each sent and received messages differ by only a few seconds or minutes, then this kind of incorrect order happens.
Try to sync your phone time with internet time. This will lessen the chances of wrong order. But you can't totally eliminate it 100%. Unless the conversation exchanges happen very slowly (for example, one or both of your compose text slowly), with several minutes gap between each text.

bart3385 said:
That's because your phone time does not match the network time. Maybe off by a few minutes. Your sent message is stamped with phone time, logically. And received message is stamped with network time. So if you're engage in a continuous exchange, each sent and received messages differ by only a few seconds or minutes, then this kind of incorrect order happens.
Try to sync your phone time with internet time. This will lessen the chances of wrong order. But you can't totally eliminate it 100%. Unless the conversation exchanges happen very slowly (for example, one or both of your compose text slowly), with several minutes gap between each text.
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Thanks for the explanation! I thought it was a bug

You're welcome.

Hey there,
Just wanted to confirm that my problem has been fixed. The network finally decided to change its time, resulting in the received messages to be time-stamped correctly.
Thanks bart for clearing up what was causing it. (I was tempted to hard reset lol...)
Alex

alex2g said:
Hey there,
Just wanted to confirm that my problem has been fixed. The network finally decided to change its time, resulting in the received messages to be time-stamped correctly.
Thanks bart for clearing up what was causing it. (I was tempted to hard reset lol...)
Alex
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Wow, great! I like how your network respond to customers. Big company responding to individual users. Very good. Total opposite of HTC tech support.

[Q] time keep changing to incorect hours

HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1

alexandros0124 said:
HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
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I had the same problem, I went to France the past 2 days and every now and then the time on my phone changed, even when the option to auto sync time is set to false. I Live in Belgium so France is still the same GMT +1.

Try upgrading to the newest stock ROM. I saw you still run 1.07.x, but there is already a version 1.36.x.

It's not the ROM. Mine has been doing it ever since we went to daylight saving in the UK. Jumping forward an hour every day or so.

tryied to upgrade but i got the error 294 invalid vender
anyway i opened a case with HTC
but i thing my problem is due to daylight saving
but not so sure because at the same time i was in Greece wich is also diferent time zone

Read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824707
Does anyone know if a hard reset fixes the problem?

Maybe, but also check the values of:
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
and
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\NetworkTimeSync

fighter7139 said:
Maybe, but also check the values of:
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
and
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\NetworkTimeSync
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Is that the same as enabling/disabling the automatic time in the phone options?
BTW what value should be in those entries? Thanks

Try to set both of them to "0", soft reset, set the correct time and time zone through settings and check if the problem still exists.

Doesn't work. As soon as I activate the automatic time, it increases 1 hour

The automatic hour must be deactivated.

alexandros0124 said:
HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
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This is the process to de-activate auto time update.
Go to:
Settings> Menu> All Settings> Personal> Phone> (search for) GSM/UMTS Services> Time Synchronization (second last option in list)> get settings. Un-check "automatic change time zone..."> Done
now the time will not update automatically.

That's in post #6.

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The automatic hour must be deactivated.
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I knew that, that's how I solved it long time ago, but what I'm trying to do is to make the automatic time work again, since I find it quite useful

Useful of what?

When traveling for example. Thanks for the tip anyway

i followed the instructions from NitroNitrous old thread where you disable the updates.
(very well hidden settings).
Settings/Menu/All Settings\Personal\Phone\GSM/UMTS Services and then scroll down and you'll see "Time Synchronization". Tap there and then "Get Settings".
thanks NitroNitrous
I have aslo an open case with HTC as soon i will get update i willl pass over
One other guess is that the provider has incorect setting. could be that the case ?

alexandros0124 said:
...One other guess is that the provider has incorect setting. could be that the case ?
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I thought about that, since it happened when they changed the time for the daylight saving thing, but it's hard to believe that many providers in different parts of the world have made the same mistake

nah! it's clearly a bug, something like network is sending the correct hour but the phone is applying by always adding daylight time saving again...

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When traveling for example. Thanks for the tip anyway
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That's why there are two choices for time zone, under "Clock & Alarms".