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8125 Messaging App Inbox Doesn't Show Up

Hi, I've got a Cingular 8125 with the updated ROM from HTC.
I have a peculiar issue with my Messaging inbox: if I try to launch it by pressing the hardkey, most of the screen doesn't redraw. The titlebar changes to indicate the name of the current messaging account (Outlook, MMS, Text Messages, etc), and the softkey menus appear and are usable. The problem is that the list of messages and current folder aren't shown, only the last application I was using.
This problem began after the ROM update. One interesting thing that I noticed when reconfiguring my device after the update was that when I was inputting the settings for my gmail account, I tried to rename that account "Gmail", and got a message indicating that that account name was already in use. (Perhaps this is related to restoring an email backup from SPB Backup that contained my email information.)
Another odd aspect of this problem is that if I launch messaging from the touchscreen, the message list appears as normal.
A few other people seem to be experiencing this problem as well, but without any apparent solutions (other than the dreaded hard reset):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55134&highlight=messaging+problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30432&highlight=messaging+ap
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

afaik, there is no resolution to this issue other than what you've already seen and done..

Messaging button quirk...

I just bought an 8525. Sometimes, when I hit the messaging button (hard button) the title bar changes to say "Text Messaging" or whatever, but the Today Screen still shows. If I close the messaging app, then hit the hard button again, it'll open correctly. I also notice duplicate notifications in MemMaid for tmail.exe after this happens
SPB Diary 2.2, SPB Pocket Plus 3.1.2, Egress 3.1, MemMaid 1.72
Right now only checking 2 email accounts: hotmail and .mac (now through POP, though had the same quirk when setup as IMAP).
Tried the fake server trick, still happening. I'm curious what's causing it. Could it be SPB Diary or Pocket Plus? I have the close button enabled in Pocket Plus.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Sorry guys... I suck.
I think it may all have to do with SPB Pocket Plus. Cuz last night.... it froze up. And I read the threads relating to that. I think they're linked. Gonna hard reset and start afresh and see what happens.
Thanks!

I don't have any of the programs you listed and I have this same problem on my TyTn. I find it very annoying....

I also have this little bug and noticed it ever since I upgraded to SPB Diary 2x.
My bug is a little different though. When it happens, if I go to the today screen, I can't select any of the diary stuff. It's as if the touch screen there stops functioning.
So to get it working, I have to tap the date or something at the top and then exit that. Now I'm able to select the diary items. Then I have to tap and hold the blue message tab and select go to inbox to have it show properly.

The messaging key bug has been around for a while. I had it with me 8125 and it is in my 8525.
If you check the wizard forum you will see no one has every found out what was causeing this.

Ugh... I had it on my 8125 too... its part of the reason I upgraded to the 8525 (the other part is that my 8125 took a tumble onto the concrete. )
Oh well... hopefully it'll go away with the next ROM upgrade.

same problem here with imate jasjam with jasjam wwe ROM. even when its stock, no other apps installed, same problem happens.
what i have noticed is that once you load up messenging and minimize it (not shut it down), then the messeging button works everytime.
otherwise if messeging is always closed, the hard button has an intermittent problem

Sorta *BUMP* / Sorta not...
So my buddy bought his 8525 a week after I bought mine. Granted, he doesn't have any of the programs I have on his... but he's NEVER had that happen to him.
I had a thought... who uses Hotmail/PocketMSN? I wonder if the "Download Mail Automatically" setting has anything to do with it. I just turned it off. We'll see.
I'm wondering if it's my phone itself. I still got a week before the exchange period is up.
Anybody hear anything new about this?

Okay... I did three things yesterday and all of them could be the culprit. (However now I'm having other problems so I'm gonna hard reset and start again.)
This is what I did... see if it helps:
1. Turned off "Download Mail Automatically" for Hotmail in Pocket MSN. (Maybe hotmail hangs during a disconnect or something?) - This still may be it.
2. Turned off scheduled checks (30 mins) for my .Mac IMAP account. (Which I never had a problem with... but maybe it hangs during a disconnect?) - It seems that as long as I don't schedule Pocket Outlook to go fetch mail everything is okay... the second I set a schedule the quirk pops up.
3. Removed the Messages tab from PocketBreeze. Since a lot of these troubles seem to be related to Diary or PocketBreeze, I wonder if there's some conflict between POutlook and the "Inboxes" in the messaging tab.) - This has nothing to do with it.
Hope this helps!
Since it's working now... I'm gonna at least let it be stable for 1 day and see what happens.

[BOUNTY][REQ]Notification / alertsound for direct push from exchange subfolders

[Added 30Euro Bounty]
Hello Everyone,
I seem to have run into a shortcoming of both WinMo 6.1 and 6.5.
Apparently (I have searched the forums for this quite extensively) there is no way to have a notification (sound or vibration) to notify the reception inform of an email that has been pushed from the exchange server directly to a subfolder of the inbox, based on a server side rule (i.e. having all the emails sent from my office go directly to my inbox subfolder that is labeled Work Emails).
I am sure plenty of people have exchange accounts with subfolders and would like to see this issue resolved. Moreover, I cannot understand how this feature is present on email clients for Symbian devices but is not supported in Microsoft's own Pocket Outlook (RoadSync for Symbian has this feature).
I am not a programmer, but it would appear bizarre that there is no way to associate a notification to an email, simply because it does not appear in the inbox but in a subfolder of the inbox. From a logical point of view, all that is required is to exted the notifications that apply to new emails in the inbox to ALL new emails both in inbox AND subfolders.
I am willing to pay 30Euros to whomever develops a hack/registry tweak/cab...whatever, that can:
1) make WinMo notify an email that has been pushed to a inbox subfolder;
2) integrate the solution in TF
So far the only solution that have been suggested are:
1) FlexMail 4, that is not compatible with TF or SPB shell
2) http://www.blackmonlabs.com/faq.html. However even this solution is not what I am looking for.
3) CheckMail 2.0 (http://www.soft32.com/download_234983.html) is an app that does exactly what I am looking for, I am now testing if it works with TF3d
Please help,
[I honestly cannot understand how this issue has not been addressed yet]

did you try second today or similar software that allows wmToday and touchflo to run at the same time?
it may work with http://www.blackmonlabs.com/faq.html.

Let me see if I understand this correctly.
I install second today, and for that today screen I install blackmonlab application; therefore, on my second today screen I would get subfolder email notifications.
However, if I understand correctly, I would still have no form of notification when in TF3D today screen. I would still have to switch to my second today screen and verify whether I have received new emails or not.
I don't know....this appears to be so strange. I cannot believe all the Microsoft Exchange users have not in some way addressed this.

Let's see if the addition of a small bounty attracts some good willed programmers.
I am sure there must be a number of people who could use this fix.

nsane said:
Let me see if I understand this correctly.
I install second today, and for that today screen I install blackmonlab application; therefore, on my second today screen I would get subfolder email notifications.
However, if I understand correctly, I would still have no form of notification when in TF3D today screen. I would still have to switch to my second today screen and verify whether I have received new emails or not.
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yeah dude give it a try before dismissing the idea. it might work well for you
also, whats the name of the app that adds today screen as a tab in touchflo. it might work better than second today or mtoday

I don't know.
In fairness, I am new to WinMO as I recently moved from a nokia communicator E90; I also have some Blackberry experience, since my GF has one.
Honestly, I just love WinMO so far. However, the whole messaging system is pretty weak compared to other platforms and I am rather unsatisfied.
I have not tried SPB mobile shell 3.0, as of yet.
I have mainly used TF Rhodium version and Titanium.
I really like TF, however, I would get rid of both the SMS and Email tabs and replace them with one unique tab that incorporates a fast smooth messaging client. For someone who receives 30/40 SMS per day and about 80 emails, the TF is just very inefficient.
If there was a way to integrate a POWERFUL messaging client in either TF or SPB I would definitely try it. By integrating I mean a Messaging client that:
1) notifies me about SMS, Email (and subfolder emails) vibrating/ringing;
2) Visually modifies my TF3DHome/TitaniumToday/SPB now/ screen showing an envelope and the number of unread messages;
3) provides a pop-up preview (not necessary);
4) one finger tap from Home/today/spb now/ straight to the new Message (no scrolling/clicking to the tab, then clicking on the envelope).
Perhaps there is something like this and I am unaware of it?

hi, does the check mail 2.0 supported TOUCH FLO3D? i went to the description link it says only displays on Today screen.

CheckMail 2.0 does not support touchflo or any other Graphic shell.

Ok someone just messaged me with a solution which appears to be rather interesting.
Using BBconnect and BIS service from phone carrier or alternatively BBconnect and BES (for those who work in a company that runs a BES server).
Apparently BB connect can be integrated in TF3d without issues.
Can someone confirm perhaps?

Did you ever find a good solution to this problem? I too am dumbfounded that this is not natively supported, even in WM 6.5 which I'm running on my Fuze (Energy Rom 8/1 build).
Come on people, there has to be a solution!!!

that feature has never been supported by pocket outlook, nor the PC version of Outlook. ALthough the PC version finally gave the user the ability to create reminders based upon new email into a folder or email specifics. Likewise, PC version of Outlook will not give reminders on flagged items that are not in the inbox and you used to have to use an Outlook plugin to get to do that.

smittyofdhs said:
that feature has never been supported by pocket outlook, nor the PC version of Outlook. ALthough the PC version finally gave the user the ability to create reminders based upon new email into a folder or email specifics. Likewise, PC version of Outlook will not give reminders on flagged items that are not in the inbox and you used to have to use an Outlook plugin to get to do that.
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I can definitely do this in the PC version of outlook with the built-in Desktop Alerts. It seems like it would be such a simple and useful piece of functionality to implement in WM. Anyone else heard of a good way to do this, especially in WM 6.5?

THe only solution I have found for this, that does not require a second today screen or closing down TF3D is a #rd party app called watch flag.
Here is the home page http://www.watchflag.com/
I used it with WM6.1, it did the job, I found the interface to be a bit clunky, and did not woirk entirely the way I wanted.
That is probably my fault becaue I could not get it to notify me on specific subfolders, I could only make it notify me on all subfolders.
In the programs defense it was over a year ago and has had revisions since then.
The other issues are the program is not free, but has a two week trial and while TF3D can be running , i think it just has regular on screen messages and does not integrate with TF3D message notifications.
Like i said I have not used it in a Year.

No appointments in HTC Calendar

All of a sudden none of my appointments appear in the HTC Calendar (inc. the Home page).
If I choose a day in the Calendar app I see one of them for a fraction of a second, then it disappears.
I see them all in the WM Calendar app and even on the S2U2 screen, but not via the HTC TouchFLo apps.
Running WM 6.2 Sense 2.1 on TD2.
Any ideas ??????

Issue resolved - related to problems with language support.

Can you help me, I have the same problem on a Rhodium.

wpbear said:
Can you help me, I have the same problem on a Rhodium.
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His issue was with language support, since you're in DC I suspect your issue is different.
You can sync calendars with MS My Phone, Google Exchange Server, or MS Exchange Server

I gave up since this thread was the only place I read the same exact problem. I decided to just use the ms calendar instead of htc calendar since it was not a sync issue. If htc updates the calendar app I will try it then maybe it will fix it for me. the sleek look of htc calendar is the only thing better anyway.

Have you tried to sync using Google as an exchange server? Its working for me.

that is what im doing. the sync is not the problem as they appear for a second, they just visually disappear in htc calendar a second or less later. but the events are still in google on pc and if i open builtin calendar on tilt 2 then the events are still there as well. so i am sure it is not an ms exchange or activesync issue

I assume you've tweaked the "keep item on device" setting.
I would delete and reestablish your server. I have seen contact photos be slow to load or disappear but never any issues with calendars.
It could be an issue with your ROM retaining data and you may have to hard reset.

Bruce Inman said:
I assume you've tweaked the "keep item on device" setting.
I would delete and reestablish your server. I have seen contact photos be slow to load or disappear but never any issues with calendars.
It could be an issue with your ROM retaining data and you may have to hard reset.
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Just tried "keep item on device" setting, and same as before.
I don't think the ROM problem not retain the data since if I use standard ms calendar feature the events are still there. The ROM is getting the data from ms exchange and keeping the data but not viewable more than split second in HTC Calendar.
I just deleted the activsync server and re-setup but still same.

Resolution
I was getting the same results - OK in regular calendar app but only very briefly, if at all, on theTouchFlo screen.
As I wrote above that the problem was due to language issues.
I assume that what was happening was that there were some characters or content which was problematic and causing problems in some cases (TochFlo display). I have the feeling that even one problematic entry caused the others not to be displayed.
If you are experiencing the problem I would look at the content of the entries (or selectively delete them etc). to find out what is happening.
-- Yakir

I found the problem but no solution to get what i want
i have the taskbar to show date and time so I change some reg entries one which tell the taskbar to show MMM dd screws up HTC Calendar. i assume HTC Calendar pulls the date info from the same place as the taskbar so it gets confused. So I can pick date and time in taskbar or HTC Calendar. I want date and time in taskbar mm/dd/yyyy then it works since that is the default but the year doesn't really fit even with extra spaces so I guess I'll have to choose one.
Problem Key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls\overrides]
"SSDte"="dd MMM "

What happens if you change the date format in your regional settings?
Does it change both WM and TF3D to match?
Strange! Glad you found the culprit.

yes iv been playing with this. The best solution so far is to use "dd MMM yy" in the taskbar. Then select this in the regional settings. Now HTC Calendar works...but this is only 99% success for me since I didnt want to wast 3 character spots in the taskbar for the _yy
I always know the year so it is waster space but I think I will have to live with that.

Outlook mobile steals focus

Hi there.
I have a little issue with outlook, when it syncs up my imap account it steals the focus and shows up as the active window. It does it wether there is new mail or not, but not every time. Same thing when the device is sleeping, i wake it back up and it shows my inbox even if outlook was closed before going to sleep.
Has anyone else had this issue (and maybe knows how to fix it) ?

Same thing happens to me also, it's not all the time but sometimes and I can't tell whats going on to make it happen.
I'm using pop.
Annoying it is though.
Regards

I had this on WM6.5 Kaiser ROM but havent had it yet on the Leo

any luck with this issue. just read some essential feeds and the mail application pop up about 10 times
thanks
nev

I haven't had this problem for quite a while now. I haven't changed my email configuration but i did change roms a few times since then (netnrg and energy mostly). So i guess the issue is somehow fixed in recent roms.

Stop Outlook stealing focus
Make sure that Outlook is running
Go into Task Manager
Press and Hold on 'Outlook E-mail'
Select 'Add Exclusive' from the pop-up menu
You can confirm it has been added by going to the 'Exclusive' tab next.
Not sure why this is required, but this means that Outlook will always be running in the background and won't need to pop up on top of other apps (was very frustrating for me when watching movies and this would happen).