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Hey!
As i've previously mentioned here once (I think), i started a small forum where I tried to gather all the setups for running Android on various HTC models. Now that the HTC G1 (Dream) is soon released, we will will get some very interesting challenges while trying to build Android ROM's, etc..
This forum is great, but its also very big. Thought that it might be a good idea to have our android resources on a separate forum?
Anyways, thought i could register a domain and such, but for now the forum is at http://www.connect-utb.com/htcandroid
Some of you are there already! Hopefully, with the experienced user base we have here, we can get Android ROMS and whatnot for our HTC models, as the HTC Dream looks rather poor. (Although better devices will surely come in the future).
you must be joking. Android is a total OS unlike apps that we see all over which are portable among HTC devices. It takes months alone just to get Android as it is today for the kaiser. Mostly everything for WM can be ported among other devices which some exceptions to nontouch devices. It'll be a long time until you see Android ported over to more devices than now. My suggestion would be to use a device that's got android projects already in progress or at your nearest convenience to buy a device with android on it.
Think we misunderstand each other, but you dont believe that if we can extract the android ROM from the HTC Dream, and modify and install it on lets say, the Kaiser?
You can always try before saying that it isn't going to work.
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
I get it...and completely understand what this is about...it's HTC...which means theoretically we should be able to at least somewhat get it working...I've started a wizard thread on your new forum in hopes that any information or progress getting it ported over gets posted all in one location for easy access....kudo's for thinking ahead as I dont think android is going anywhere soon and while this forum is very useful it's mostly for winmo devices....nothing wrong with speading the wings a lil bit and branching out...
looking forward to the press conference!!
I would say we should be able to get Android to run on the OS level of our devices, but it will probably need a bit of modifying. However, since it's open source I'm hoping the modifying will be a lot easier because of this.
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
WatskeBart said:
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
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Same here!
If my memory does not fail, I remember that one of the first peaks at Android was being run in a Blue Angel. So, I guess there is a big chance that we might in fact be able to see Android running on more than one device (of course, you will have more or less features depending on the device's capabilities and hardware limitations, namely apps that work with an accelerometer, etc).
Maybe, the development should be worth following because as much as I don't want to believe it, my device (Blue Angel) will only trick death for so long (by death I mean not being able to move to newer versions of WM) and we will need a way to pass the time .
HTC Touch Vogue in progress of being ported
Hey don't forget about the senior member "DZO" that started ANDROID porting to HTC Vogue and it is Successful
This is his direct link to the files : http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
And here is the link to the posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
I think he did a GREAT job porting Android. I am running Android 0.9 with most of the featuress except installing programs but only because he is the only one that does that. So, he needs help! I am sure... Plus, on this site people are cheeping in for HTC Diamond so he can work on that too...
Here is the link: http://www.myhtcphone.com
So, if you want something done we should start by contributing either money, or programming support! I wish I knew how to program this
ahhhh I wish I would have fully functional Android on my HTC
Thanks for the support! The forums are slightly active now!
Hopefully, we will be able to get Android running more or less flawless soon! As pointed out, its possible!
he he nice link, it seems that there are allready htc devices running with android.
just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
hmmm, seems to have no desktop syncing.. this may be a huge set back for anyone trying to get androig running on another HTC device.
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just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
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well currently (or in the case of the vogue) android is being booted via haret (a linux bootloaded) running on top of windows mobile.. so i guess its already kind of dual boot
For now, Android has to be run from within Windows Mobile, so no true dual boot yet
Already started
Hey you guys might want to check out the following links. Over at PPC Geeks they already have a thread going:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23244
Also if you want to download the current Android cab for HTC go to:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/
doena said:
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
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Diamond doesnt have QWERTY keyboard, so i think it could be on Touch Pro instead
Someone ported Android for BlueAngel?
Please can someone tell me if Android is already running in BlueAngel? If there is a way show me how. Thanks Man!!!
Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Android made so that it can run on a wide range of devices. I, for one, can't wait till its ported to samsung omnia. Damn, that would be good!
@Coldheat,
What does the cab file do? Its an OS, so cab file??
when I turn on wifi in vista,I saw that vista recognize it marvell wireless sdio adapter.I wonder whether we can have driver for it in winmo.
The shift Projects is working on it AFAIK.
Haven't heard something from them for a long time but i think their next goal is to get SD card working.
well I'm not sure there still someone working on that project !!!
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well I'm not sure there still someone working on that project !!!
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Well, let's put it laike that: as soon as a new device is announced / sold every single force is put to work on that new thing/gadget. You can easily see it by reading here and there in this Shift sub-forum and comparing what you see with, for instance, what you see on Blackstone sub-forum.
What happened is quite easy to understand: new game = high interest. Old game = low interest.
In the first months many people cooked new ROMs, and it was hard to keep the pace with it (you could really flash one ROM a day...). Now everything is quite "asleep", and you can see people thinking on "porting" Blackstone ROM on Shift. This means, to me, that nobody is seriously working anymore on this project. I'm not accusing anybody, and I do know that one of the developers is in big troubles because of his daughter. I'm just saying that we should keep in mind that our Shift is no longer a "high-interesting-gadget", but it became something like a "spare-time-hobby" even for the best cookers out there.
I'm just sorry that many people (and it doesn't mean you, of course) is still harshly asking for something that, I can bet on it, no one will ever do. As if this forum were some kind of "McDrive": push the button, place your order, wait for a couple of minutes, get your pizza+coke and... don't pay!
Ciao!
Hi there,
i saw the same thing, but as i am new and only got 2 devices and really love my shift, and my Diamond when i request something someone deliveres it.So i got my whole interest into the shift. As people can help here, do whings like:
Look for a device with the same Marvel chipset (dunno if its connected to MSM7200) and get a rom of that and send it to me with a pm and i'll try to port the winMo driver to one of our roms
Greets
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Hi there,
i saw the same thing, but as i am new and only got 2 devices and really love my shift, and my Diamond when i request something someone deliveres it.So i got my whole interest into the shift. As people can help here, do whings like:
Look for a device with the same Marvel chipset (dunno if its connected to MSM7200) and get a rom of that and send it to me with a pm and i'll try to port the winMo driver to one of our roms
Greets
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Me too, I'm completely satisfied with my ****f and my liberated ROM (I flashed it a century ago, may be there are some more performing...). To tell the truth I would even use y shift with a "normal" WM side, but I'm sure I would miss the possibility to surf the web in few seconds (I often "need" to google here and there... even the fastest Vista configuration needs some seconds to be on).
I was just saying what anybody can argue just by going on XDA forum home-page: Blakstone: more than 200 people viewing; Shift 14 people viewing... Doesn't that mean something to you?
Well it seems that the shift project was a good opportunity for some people to get device for free and that's all .the way it works don't give me the feelings that donate in any project makes things works on!!!
I am soory for being in thatkind of mood !!!
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Well it seems that the shift project was a good opportunity for some people to get device for free and that's all .the way it works don't give me the feelings that donate in any project makes things works on!!!
I am soory for being in thatkind of mood !!!
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Think twice, the shift isnt that much worth, if you really count the hours they already spend by liberating etc. and pay them like a real developer with that know-how, you would probably end with a much higher bill.
In my opinion the only problem is the communication, or just beeing honest, if it wont work or nobody continues with real effort or somebody is not coming forward with a problem, just tell it.
Ehy guys,
can u get back on topic, the shift project is discussed in another thread!
As im not part of Shift Projekt i cant say anything for them, but they did good job !
Olipro thx for HardSPL
cmonex thx for porting the GPS driver.
But they go quiet so i decided to do some "extra" work, so it was mentioned!
So get back on topic and stop flaming!
Anyone got an rom from another device wich uses the same WIFI chipset ??
I googled a bit for sd8686 and windows mobile but didn't found a thing.
http://www.pudn.com/downloads97/sourcecode/embed/detail396197.html
i cant read but seems to be interesting, if anyone can translate i would be glad.
There are 3 or 4 ppl trying to get sd8686 stack working on ARM, but under linux. that was the only link i couldnt read.
As long as we dont get a driver developer for WINCE that converts the linux stuff to wince or that link as a good source, i dont think it will be possible as i dont see another device with sd8686 and ARM processor.
Greets
ps. anyone got INFORMATIONS that are usefull wich aren't mentioned jet ??
pps. please stay ontopic
Are we going to see a push for an Android port similar to what they already have working on the Touch Pro 2? I was curious if this is already in the works, or if we're just going to have to wait for the EVO to come out and have someone port that over.
Android question
Dude to answer your question Android is the same for Europe, Australia, US, and China. It utilizes the same drivers so bro so no need to port, it has all ready been done.
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Dude to answer your question Android is the same for Europe, Australia, US, and China. It utilizes the same drivers so bro so no need to port, it has all ready been done.
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not to be rude but he asked are we going to see a push for android to hd2. Obviously android will stay the same throughout other countries..other than language adaptations. N to answer the original question...yes there will be a push, im thnknin when the evo comes out we will have a better chance. N if there was a fully working android port to HD2 i would have it, i pray the day comess soon
I hope so, because its the only reason i got the HD2 to be honest, and that way i can get rid of my Nexus because WinMo isnt cutting it for me (
In the main HD2 forum there are a couple of Android Discussion & Dev threads. From what I have heard they are working on it but with the current available info it could be 6 months to a year before we see a working port, now that may or may not change when the Evo is released. You have to realise that even though the hardware is similar, the drivers and Kernel are much different so it's very difficult to make a port.
But that's pending the release so we will see.
Can i run Android on my HD2?
..And if so which one should i use?
Im already missing Android, this Winmo is making me want to pull my hair out..
Are there any with Sense UI that run 2.1 Android?
fociz said:
..And if so which one should i use?
Im already missing Android, this Winmo is making me want to pull my hair out..
Are there any with Sense UI that run 2.1 Android?
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If WinMo makes you want to pull your hair out, maybe you should go back to an Android device?
No, there are no fully working ports, and there probably won't be for a good year.
Why you'd want to castrate a phone like the HD2 with Android is beyond me though.
dude if you like Android why in the world would you buy the HD2? You already know this is running winmo from the start. if you're still in the 14day buyers remorse then return it. cant be that hard....... heard the desire is coming sometime this year to tmobile so save yourself from trouble and from pulling your hairs..... i myself is gettin' bald from people asking bout androids and crap for hd2.... lol
The HD2 is not that different from a desire/nexus 1, why not just buy that instead of buying a WM device then posting in a WM forum hoping for an android port? Seems simpler and you get a FULLY working device.
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The HD2 is not that different from a desire/nexus 1, why not just buy that instead of buying a WM device then posting in a WM forum hoping for an android port? Seems simpler and you get a FULLY working device.
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you have a very valid point...
ne one wanna buy a hd2 unlocked $500 plus shipping n handling
Truefully I'm happy with the HD2. I sold my Nexus cuz I love the screen on this thing and you can't go wrong with snap dragon on this device but until TMO gets their own version of a the Supersonic um good for now.
I think this phone would be a beast with some form of Android on it.
This is probably the 20th thread created asking the same question... please search before starting new threads. They have been working on an Android port for months now. The EVO might help a little, but it will still be a long time before there is a decently working port... at least a year.
I dropped my G1 for this phone, I love Android and all, but the screen size and speed was worth it. I do hope someone gets Android running on it, because that would be just awesome. If not, it's no biggy.
Also, are there any partial ports of android? Like ones with no Wifi etc? I haven't seen anything, but I may have looked in the wrong places.
No there is nothing working yet, partial builds will be the first that we get and then go from there. But like said it may be up to a year before we do.
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..And if so which one should i use?
Im already missing Android, this Winmo is making me want to pull my hair out..
Are there any with Sense UI that run 2.1 Android?
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The *hope* is to dump the kernel from the Supersonic on Sprint when it comes out this summer. That *might* help a bit with drivers and whatnot, but even then, it is going to take some work.
so all-in-all... there will definately be android on the HD2 eventually, correct ? (I am looking forward to it...)
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so all-in-all... there will definately be android on the HD2 eventually, correct ? (I am looking forward to it...)
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really???
No, there's no definite anything. Android may never get ported. WM7 may never work. There's some talented people out there but that doesn't guarantee a damn thing.
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No there is nothing working yet, partial builds will be the first that we get and then go from there. But like said it may be up to a year before we do.
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By that time Windows Phone 7 will probably be ported over to the HD2.
Why buy a WM phone and wish for Android? Why not just get the N1? Android and Windows are made for two different types of people. Those who just want to press a button and those who want to see how the button works and change it to do other things.
From day one, WM was never meant to be an "out the box and work like a charm" device. It always required a little tinkering. Hearing all this "I wish it had Android" makes me wanna puke!
It seems that the very first windows 7 rom is out ...it has appears here on xda and DA_g is already working on it..it seems that the first device to get the updates it will obviusly be the HD2...
Anyway I don't know what think, I'm not very impressed from windows phone 7, expecialy I don't want to lost manila..
here is the thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681659
cool news!!
maybe our s200 chiefs get it running on our devices ;-)
We should make some kind of fund to interest some people to port it to acer since there aren't that much developers for the neotouch?
Or is Arto or brainmaster interested?
it's not so easy ...at the moment just do the dumpo is preatty difficoult...don't expect anythin in the mid-term...
I am interested in cooking WM7 for NeoTouch, so i will stay in touch and follow the development of ROM.
Now i am on vacation and be back in 2 Weeks.
I will stay tuned too on this but I dont expect to much the possibility of cooking that...
as for me until microsoft don't bring multitasking and third party app support I'm not very interested to that...if I wanna an embedded device I would have bought a nokia or something else...
by the way I have seen the multitasking of the palm pixi...and I have to say that it's very nice ! would be awsome to bring that interface on windows mobile.
You can seen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI5tLZH4nEY .arto what do you think ?
Getting wp7 on the acer s200 or any other qsd8xxxx platform device wont be as straight foward as it was getting 6.5 to our current devices, da-g has said it the devices will brick, jtag will be needed, and lots of other things will go wrong, wp7 wont be as easy as porting 6.5 to an arm7 device, this will require a lot of skill and luck and most of all time, i can bet my neck that we wont see a half working rom for atleast a year, hell maybe more, lets just be patient and hope that da_g can find a way to flash this new generation of rom's on to the current qsd8xxx platform devices.
I see, anyway as for me, until mocrosoft won't bring multitasking support and third party apps I'm not very interested in it ...
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by the way I have seen the multitasking of the palm pixi...and I have to say that it's very nice ! would be awsome to bring that interface on windows mobile.
You can seen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI5tLZH4nEY .arto what do you think ?
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:O very very nice, this is what i call multitasking .i really want to have this on my acer neotouch
Hoping that microsoft will release WP7 soon......
Another 'let's donate to con-men' thread... Forget it, if you need an iPhone go buy it and be happy... I don't get why those people've bought a 'classic' WM smartphone if they want a thing similar to iPhone/ Android (which is in fact, a substitute/clone of an iPhone)
Hi everyone
Has anyone successfully got Ubuntu running on HTC Advantage x7500?
Matthew
PS - Anyone managed to get Android running too? I'm happy to have either running on my device!
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Hi everyone
Has anyone successfully got Ubuntu running on HTC Advantage x7500?
Matthew
PS - Anyone managed to get Android running too? I'm happy to have either running on my device!
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No, unfortunately no one ever finished developing a working android/linux port. They got as far as getting android to boot, and get the touch screen somewhat functional I think, but never got any further, so it's pretty much unuasable.
It's a shame, too. This would be a great device to run Ubuntu or Android off of... this device was way ahead of it's time. It wasn't too popular when it first came out because many people saw it as too big, but if it was released nowadays with the same design, but more current processor, etc and running android, I'm sure it would be very popular. A tablet/phone with attachable keyboard... it was an awesome concept.
If we could get the Athena into the hands of some of the developers that are porting linux to the HD2, Rhodium, Kaiser, etc, I'm sure they could get a good port going on it after some work... but I don't think any of the devs capable of porting it own the athena, or are interested in putting in all the time.
A good linux kernel and android port would give this device a second life... make people interested in it again... but I'm losing hope in it happening. In fact, I've come into hard financial times recently, so I'm trying to sell my X7501. I really hate doing it, but I just don't use it anymore and can't find a reason to keep it other than I think it's a really cool, unique device. So if anyone's interested in a X7501 in almost perfect condition, with a bunch of accessories, send me a pm. I'll probably throw it on ebay if I don't find anyone here at xda within the next few days.
Thanks for the update
Think I'll keep my x7500 for a bit to play on it, maybe get it to run WM6.5 (its 5 at the mo) then pass it on!
Do fancy a UMPC with Linux on though!