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Hi Folks, you are going to have to bear with a non-programmer, my question is with regard to album art and scrolling on WM. there are loads of threads on xda trying to emmulate the 'Apple' style scrolling media selector.
As most players do the same thing, (ie play music and video) creaing the scroll would seem to be a seperate issue. is there a plugin that allows thumnails to be visible on WM and combine this with touch control to allow the existing player to select and play the track/album/video?
this would give the element of selecting via the pics without the need to create a completely new player?
cheers for looking and would hope one of you folks could run with this idea
Chris
I agree completely. I just don't want a new player - wmp is fine for me and works well with Voice Command. I like the way it does album art and I think it syncs well with the desktop.
What we need is just something to launch the album or track in media player. The Library option in wmp needs fingers that are much smaller than mine!
The iContact application was perfect - a good scroller to find what you want and then go to the normal app.
Ideally it should look a bit like audio manager or the iphone-style.
Any programmers want to take this on?
temporary solution...
well i'm not a developper... me too I agree that windows media player is an excellent software as it also plays videos and mp4's which are also part of my music album... I've done a few things to make it seem like an iphone and more practical:
1. downloaded PlaylistMgr 0.6.2.1 (freeware), use it to create a playlist or edit it on my ppc. And i use the playlist as a shortcut on my today screen (i have spb4), this way it launches the play list directly and not have to select my music everytime. This includes all my music and videos
2. iphone skin for wmp from http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/media/wmp/wmpppc/?order=9&alltime=yes
3. I didnt know how to increase the playlist font, because i agree its too small so i increased the system font. Now most fonts (not all) are bigger, which has some advantages and disadvantages in other software (I used tweaks for that)
4. Use ftouchflo which allows me to scroll in the playlist
if any ideas let me know
salahnajm said:
well i'm not a developper... me too I agree that windows media player is an excellent software as it also plays videos and mp4's which are also part of my music album... I've done a few things to make it seem like an iphone and more practical:
1. downloaded PlaylistMgr 0.6.2.1 (freeware), use it to create a playlist or edit it on my ppc. And i use the playlist as a shortcut on my today screen (i have spb4), this way it launches the play list directly and not have to select my music everytime. This includes all my music and videos
2. iphone skin for wmp from http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/media/wmp/wmpppc/?order=9&alltime=yes
3. I didnt know how to increase the playlist font, because i agree its too small so i increased the system font. Now most fonts (not all) are bigger, which has some advantages and disadvantages in other software (I used tweaks for that)
4. Use ftouchflo which allows me to scroll in the playlist
if any ideas let me know
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Yeah, I did the same, create playlists for my music, and use righttoleft launch with ftouchflo to open the folder that holds them.
Never liked working with libraries.
Can someone elaborate how to create a playlist? I use WMedia and organize my music and I created a play list on the desktop and copied it onto my storage card under the folder 'My playlists' but it doesn't appear on the phone when I update it. Is there a way to create a playlist on the stock wing?
i have just purchased a HTC p6300 (xda Argon) all in all a so-so device but has got a bit of software in it that works well as a media selector - HTC Audio manager, allows you to select albums by file and works well with touch flo. only problem is that i dont know how to find the route files to copy and extract.. has anyone else seen or tried this? and if so does anyone have the cab? would really like this for my Wizard as well as this seems to be one of the best/easiest media selectors i have seen
Hi Guys,
I am new to the world of Windows Mobile having got my TP2 on Saturday which is my first Windows Mobile phone. Prior to this I had an iPhone 3G. I am trying to find a media player which has similar functionality to the "smart playlists" available in iTunes. I would like to be able to create some playlists based on ratings (e.g All Tracks with 4 stars).
So far I have found Pocket Player 4 which has some of these playlists built in but I have been unable to find a way to create my own ones. I know I can hack the existing ones but I was looking for something a bit cleaner. Do any media players for WinMo exist with this kind of functionality? I have tried some of the free ones (Kinoma Free Play, Nitrogen etc) but I have been unable to find what I'm looking for. Does anyone know if any of the pay ones have this available? If not I guess I will just stick with Pocket Player but I don't want to buy it yet incase something better exists.
Other than this minor issue I am loving my new toy .
have you tried creating a smart playlist with windows media player on your computer...then sync it (using windows media player) to your phone?
Yeah, but as soon as you copy the playlist to the device it just becomes a static dumb playlist. I was looking for proper smart playlist support on the device itself where they playlist would update on the device without the need for syncing.
I'm thinking I will just settle on Pocket Player and hack the files to suit my needs. I am quite surprised that such a feature is not in more of the WinMo media players though.
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Yeah, but as soon as you copy the playlist to the device it just becomes a static dumb playlist. I was looking for proper smart playlist support on the device itself where they playlist would update on the device without the need for syncing.
I'm thinking I will just settle on Pocket Player and hack the files to suit my needs. I am quite surprised that such a feature is not in more of the WinMo media players though.
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so you're saying you add a song to a certain playlist then you want the mp3 to automatically download to the phone when in a data connection? thats a nice feature but alot of people wouldn't want there phone to use that much data at once, i believe if i'm already at a computer adding to my playlist i might as well have my phone synced because it will be charging and adding the songs the much much faster. But i do see how it could be useful, for instance if you're not at your home computer and want to add 1 or 2 songs to a playlist. But i guess the would only work if I actually PURCHASED all my music,
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so you're saying you add a song to a certain playlist then you want the mp3 to automatically download to the phone when in a data connection? thats a nice feature but alot of people wouldn't want there phone to use that much data at once, i believe if i'm already at a computer adding to my playlist i might as well have my phone synced because it will be charging and adding the songs the much much faster. But i do see how it could be useful, for instance if you're not at your home computer and want to add 1 or 2 songs to a playlist. But i guess the would only work if I actually PURCHASED all my music,
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No, no; that's not what I mean at all. I've probably just not explained it very well.
In Windows Media Player on the PC you can create an auto playlist. So for example I create a playlist called "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" and set it to play all songs that are rated 5 stars, it would then list all the tracks in my Library that have 5 stars. Then if I play a couple of tracks from my Library that are not rated and I rate them with 5 stars they would then automatically appear in my "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" auto-playlist; I would not need to add them to it manually.
I would like to be able to emulate this functionality on the device. As it stands at the moment if I create such a playlist in Windows Media Player and sync it to the device it will only sync the songs currently in the playlist. I cannot then give tracks on the device a 5 star rating and have them automatically added to the playlist on the device UNTIL I do a sync with the PC.
I hope I've explained it a bit better.
I'm thinking I will either just live with the Windows Media Player route for now and pick up Pocket Player at some point in the future.
Thanks for the input though guys, much appreciated.
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No, no; that's not what I mean at all. I've probably just not explained it very well.
In Windows Media Player on the PC you can create an auto playlist. So for example I create a playlist called "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" and set it to play all songs that are rated 5 stars, it would then list all the tracks in my Library that have 5 stars. Then if I play a couple of tracks from my Library that are not rated and I rate them with 5 stars they would then automatically appear in my "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" auto-playlist; I would not need to add them to it manually.
I would like to be able to emulate this functionality on the device. As it stands at the moment if I create such a playlist in Windows Media Player and sync it to the device it will only sync the songs currently in the playlist. I cannot then give tracks on the device a 5 star rating and have them automatically added to the playlist on the device UNTIL I do a sync with the PC.
I hope I've explained it a bit better.
edit: nevermind i fully understand now, you want the phone itself to create the autoplaylist. windows mobile media player sucks and isn't that advanced but i defintely would agree with what you want. hopefully they are able to port the zune hd music player to their phones.
I'm thinking I will either just live with the Windows Media Player route for now and pick up Pocket Player at some point in the future.
Thanks for the input though guys, much appreciated.
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oh ok i understand. I do have mine set up like that. if you try to use the auto playlist that populates by windows media player then it will not work, but if you create your own auto playlist that picks up every song lets say abover 4 stars, you can then sync that playlist to your phone. i have mine set up that way. on my desktop its called favorites and everytime i rate a song it will show up in favorites if its rated above 4 stars, and when i sync it will then be synced to my phones playlist. Basically what you want i do all the time.
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oh ok i understand. I do have mine set up like that. if you try to use the auto playlist that populates by windows media player then it will not work, but if you create your own auto playlist that picks up every song lets say abover 4 stars, you can then sync that playlist to your phone. i have mine set up that way. on my desktop its called favorites and everytime i rate a song it will show up in favorites if its rated above 4 stars, and when i sync it will then be synced to my phones playlist. Basically what you want i do all the time.
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Yes, but I want to be able to rate a song already on the device itself and have it added to the auto playlist on the device without the need for a PC. Does that make sense?
Does anyone know an other way to refresh the music player library, than having to softreset the device?
Maybe a solution would be to just reloud the sense today plugin, but i haven't found an easy way to do that eighter.
Any idea is welcome. I really don't wanna softreset my device everytime I downloaded a podcast. I have to softreset enough as it is every time it crashes.
Greetings
chuelbrueder
Well, one way is to launch Windows Media Player, go to its library and reindex media.
when on the music tab click "library" then go into artists and select what you want to listen to. seems to work on mine without having to reindex
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Does anyone know an other way to refresh the music player library, than having to softreset the device?
Maybe a solution would be to just reloud the sense today plugin, but i haven't found an easy way to do that eighter.
Any idea is welcome. I really don't wanna softreset my device everytime I downloaded a podcast. I have to softreset enough as it is every time it crashes.
Greetings
chuelbrueder
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See this thread's first and second post. Maybe this wil answer some of your questions about the Music player crashes. Please relay the info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5220474
Hi. I'm new to this so apologies if this problem has already been answered. I've bought and installed a 16GB sd card in my HD2 and have transferred a fair bit of music to listen to. However media player is playing albums in an incorrect order (seemingly random, not alphabetical). When I transfer an album from the sd card to the 'my music' folder on the device, it plays in the right order! I've tried neptune which plays in the correct order but that won't respond to my bluetooth headset (when I press play, it automatically uses media player). Now when I copied and pasted an album onto my device which was also on the sd card, media player displayed the tracks twice in the correct order 1-15 consecutively (1-15, then 1-15 again). I deleted the device version and the sd card version went back to the seemingly random order. Can anyone solve this irritating problem?
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Could I just add that when I say the problem is with windows media player I am reffering to the music player within HTC sense. Please help!
I have the same issue, very irritating , could anybody help please??
A poor solution
Right, until I can better this I'm gonna cut and paste the album I want to listen to from the sd card onto the device.
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No, that doesn't work
Have the same problem with the HTC music application and Windows Media Player. Pocket Player and Pocket Tunes don't have this problem.
A solution that works!
Right, it's like this. Got to settings>personalize>home screen tabs and uncheck 'music'. Open 'Windows media player' either by playing a song off your music folder or adding a quick link to it. Then click 'library' and get it to scan for al your files. Now use windows media player as your player not HTC sense and it will all be fine. Thank goodness!
is there the same resolution for the HTC player?
Thanks mate. Now I can see it works fine on the Windows media player. but thats a pain to use with those annoying menus. I like the HTC player as its very much like the iphone player & its easy to use. Has anyone found the fix for the HTC player or is there another good working player thats similar to the iphone player.
Cheers
Shala
Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
Found a solution for you...
you will need a registry editor for your HTC Touch Pro. I recommend the PHM registry editor (google it).
Locate the following key. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum\Ignored and modify the key Music Gizmo1 to the path you want the music file to be stored. I created a folder on the SD card named MUSIC and updated the path to \Storage Card\Music then rebooted the phone and all is well. Now I can turn off my phone, pop in the SD card and copy all my tunes over and bam.. I have all my songs at my finger tips. I hope this helps
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I'll be trying it later today.
hi,
if this does not work, i can share my application. It scans your music folder and generates playlists in the correct order.
it uses mp3 and wma tags for cd and track sequence. it works well for me but sometimes you need to clean up tags on desktop before copying music.
I have a 16 gb card as well and all my albums are ordered correctly using playlists instead.
I am sure using media monkey to synch gives you an option to push playlists as well and should give desured results.
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Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
I'll be trying it later today.
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Damn, it didn't work. Quite disappointing.
Now how about this app that you mentioned?
And I can't find such a function in Media Monkey, any ideas?
Regarding media monkey please have a look at here:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/tutorial-syncing-music-and-playlists-3761/
You will need to connect the device in usb disk mode and then you can synchronise playlists when uploading tracks.
I will upload the application later on today or earlier tomorrow morning. I would however recommend the option above first as the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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They are. I'm also picky.
But yeah, the Media Monkey solution does sound smoother, I will try it out.
Thanks.
Hi again,
I have attached the files to this post. I still think, if Media Monkey option works for you thats the way to go. But this little tool helped me with the track order issues I had.
If your files are not in \Storage Card\music folder, you will need to set the location using the botton next to the text box.
Then you need to point the location to save the playlists. For me "\storage card\playlists" worked with every version of manila I used (Polaris, Diamond, HD, HD2)
It only supports mp3 and wma so there isnt much point to add more extensions, however you can remove one to exclude files of that extension.
Once all set up, you need to chose file - > Create playlists and application will scan your files and save the playlists in desired location.
I am using it with 16GB card and on Hd2 its pretty fast.
Here are some limitations:
1 - Extra information is created in the palylist file but still, when you select the playlist in manila player, it does not show fields like artist.
2 - Although some tags are valid, they cause errors in the application. I have some very old track I converted from CD's records mid/late 90s and if I see the issue on the mobile, I just run an application like Musicbrainz Picard to reftesh the tags and it all working again.
3 - If you have multi cd albums and disc numbers are not tagged, the track order may not be correct.
I always use usb mode to copy tracks and for me this tool works good enough to create the playlists the way I want to listen.
Hope it helps someone.
Simple Fix that worked for me
I to had the same problem with CD coming up in the wrong order in the player in HTC sense. When I checked what CD's were in the wrong order I noticed that they were all ones I had purchased off itunes and that the track information wasn't being picked up by my windows desktop. So i converted all my itunes music to MP3s using real player converter and now all of my library is in the correct order.
Hello,
I have the same problem. However, the tags are properly showing in all of these software :
MusicBrainz Picard
Windows Media Player
Windows 7 properties
So the track numbers seem to be correctly assigned. But still, the album tracks don't appear in the correct order for several albums in the HTC audio software.
The playlist utility keeps crashing on me, too.
By the way the HTC support regarding this issue is *terrible*, they keep telling me that the player sorts the music by "last time you played it". Nope. It doesn't. If so, when I play a single track, it would either pop at first place in the album or last place, depending on what they meant in their ballistic explanation (1 sentence). It, obviously, doesn't, and a player acting like that would be the stupidest music player in the world.
Does anyone have a solution ?
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
Thanks in advance for any anwsers,
Regards
IcePanther said:
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
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I barely tried and didn't have any luck. Since then I've given up..
Oh, okay.
Thank you for your input, anyway.
This thing with the HTC support is starting to get on my nerves, especially how they still try to convince me that the problem will go away if I hard reset the phone (nope, done two times already due to FixOperaFlash ruining my config, and still the music player doesn't work)...
I have figured a work around to the track order problem.
Download mp3tag you can find it on download.com or just google it.
I opend up all my music and looked at the albums that were out of order.
They seemed fine. I just right click on the track and saved the tag. I though why not nothing else seems to work.
I resynced the album and it was in order!
I guess try it out and see if it works.
S**t man , it worked !
HUGE thanks to you !
By the way I just opened the whole library (which was already on the phone), selected all, and clicked on save so it refreshed all tags. And after deleting /Application Data/HTC/Audio Manager/AudioManager_eng.vol so it regenerates the library, it worked like a charm.
Is it possible to import a playlist created on your PC i.e. .m3u into the HD2 and make it appear in the sense music player?
Can you sync music/playlist on your PC with the HD2?
Yes, use Windows Media Player and right click on the playlist and press "Add to sync list" and it will appear in the sense player when done.
Thanks...I'll give that a try
Just tried this but only music being transferred and found by sense music player...NOT playlists...Are you sure this works??
I'm wondering this, too...how can I get my fifty gazillion song playlist onto my phone without sitting down for hours and manually re-creating it? This is very frustrating. Can't we stick a text file or xml or something into the phone system to get sense to recognize it?
h++p://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=view.download&cid=52
Not exactly what you are looking for, but give it a try.
PlaylistMgr is simple playlist editor for managing Windows Media Player and Sense playlists and also can import different playlist created on PC
markecpda said:
PlaylistMgr is simple playlist editor for managing Windows Media Player and Sense playlists and also can import different playlist created on PC
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Doesn't work. I've got a Windows Media Player playlist on my pc that I want to copy to my phone and have Sense or at least WMP recognize it...anyone know how to do that, specifically?
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Doesn't work. I've got a Windows Media Player playlist on my pc that I want to copy to my phone and have Sense or at least WMP recognize it...anyone know how to do that, specifically?
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Did anyone come up with a solution to this?
I have tried all sorts to get a playlist from my PC into my HD2 and to show up in the sence player to no avail
I've been playing with different ways to get my music on and seem to have a working solution using MusicBee which gets all my music including tags and album art into sense perfectly. It copies playlist over but I can't get sense to recognise them. Getting fed up with recreating playlists every time I change my music over on my phone
If anyone knows a way to get playlists into the sence player it would be most appreciated.