Question for the sofware Gurus re Media Players - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi Folks, you are going to have to bear with a non-programmer, my question is with regard to album art and scrolling on WM. there are loads of threads on xda trying to emmulate the 'Apple' style scrolling media selector.
As most players do the same thing, (ie play music and video) creaing the scroll would seem to be a seperate issue. is there a plugin that allows thumnails to be visible on WM and combine this with touch control to allow the existing player to select and play the track/album/video?
this would give the element of selecting via the pics without the need to create a completely new player?
cheers for looking and would hope one of you folks could run with this idea
Chris

I agree completely. I just don't want a new player - wmp is fine for me and works well with Voice Command. I like the way it does album art and I think it syncs well with the desktop.
What we need is just something to launch the album or track in media player. The Library option in wmp needs fingers that are much smaller than mine!
The iContact application was perfect - a good scroller to find what you want and then go to the normal app.
Ideally it should look a bit like audio manager or the iphone-style.
Any programmers want to take this on?

temporary solution...
well i'm not a developper... me too I agree that windows media player is an excellent software as it also plays videos and mp4's which are also part of my music album... I've done a few things to make it seem like an iphone and more practical:
1. downloaded PlaylistMgr 0.6.2.1 (freeware), use it to create a playlist or edit it on my ppc. And i use the playlist as a shortcut on my today screen (i have spb4), this way it launches the play list directly and not have to select my music everytime. This includes all my music and videos
2. iphone skin for wmp from http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/media/wmp/wmpppc/?order=9&alltime=yes
3. I didnt know how to increase the playlist font, because i agree its too small so i increased the system font. Now most fonts (not all) are bigger, which has some advantages and disadvantages in other software (I used tweaks for that)
4. Use ftouchflo which allows me to scroll in the playlist
if any ideas let me know

salahnajm said:
well i'm not a developper... me too I agree that windows media player is an excellent software as it also plays videos and mp4's which are also part of my music album... I've done a few things to make it seem like an iphone and more practical:
1. downloaded PlaylistMgr 0.6.2.1 (freeware), use it to create a playlist or edit it on my ppc. And i use the playlist as a shortcut on my today screen (i have spb4), this way it launches the play list directly and not have to select my music everytime. This includes all my music and videos
2. iphone skin for wmp from http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/media/wmp/wmpppc/?order=9&alltime=yes
3. I didnt know how to increase the playlist font, because i agree its too small so i increased the system font. Now most fonts (not all) are bigger, which has some advantages and disadvantages in other software (I used tweaks for that)
4. Use ftouchflo which allows me to scroll in the playlist
if any ideas let me know
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Yeah, I did the same, create playlists for my music, and use righttoleft launch with ftouchflo to open the folder that holds them.
Never liked working with libraries.

Can someone elaborate how to create a playlist? I use WMedia and organize my music and I created a play list on the desktop and copied it onto my storage card under the folder 'My playlists' but it doesn't appear on the phone when I update it. Is there a way to create a playlist on the stock wing?

i have just purchased a HTC p6300 (xda Argon) all in all a so-so device but has got a bit of software in it that works well as a media selector - HTC Audio manager, allows you to select albums by file and works well with touch flo. only problem is that i dont know how to find the route files to copy and extract.. has anyone else seen or tried this? and if so does anyone have the cab? would really like this for my Wizard as well as this seems to be one of the best/easiest media selectors i have seen

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Hacking touch player

I really love touch player but the fact is if your like me and have 2000+ songs touch player gets very slow when trying to scroll. This is because it shows album art in the library list. If i go into the folder that contains all the bmp images for the songs and delete it then it solves all the issues and the lag goes away as there is no album art, this is a bad solution as we all want to keep the album art. So i have pin pointed the problem and wondering if there can be a fix.
My two ideas;
1.) Hack touch player so that we can remove the album art in the library list but have it show up when in the now playing.
2.) Point touch player to a different directory to grab the images for the songs in the libary and in that folder just have few of the default images or no images so it gets blank data and no icons show up. But still have it grab the album art when in the now playing area.
I would post the thread i started on modaco but can't coz i'm a new user and it dose not allow me to do so
i would also love touchplayer hack to only update movies i use another player for my music...this would speed up the update significantly!!
well from what i said in the first post if that is complete it would allow for faster searches and less lagg.
I have test it by removing all the bmp that get created by touch player in "my storage/program files/touchplayerimages" after that touch player just fly's and there is no lagg what so ever, but this is a temp solution as i don't want to keep delete my album art as i want to keep it.
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I just made a copy of touchplayerimages folder and looked inside and notice all the art is 256x256 which is really big and could explain the lag as it resizing the images to fit the library thus the lag. It seems you need to keep the size at 256x256 for the "now playing" section of the player. A simple solution is just to re size all the images to like 50x50 and the lag goes away but when you go into "now playing" the images are pixelated and blurry do to the reduced size.
for this i have to possible solutions aswell
1.) hack it so that it generates 2 images one at 30x30 for the library and another at 256x256 for "now playing" and it knows which one to pick up.
This could be a simple hex that has a sub folder in the touchplayerimages called libraryimages and all the images stored there are at 30x30 which would make it prefect. Or again just have it point to that folder and not have it generate anything is also fine, by doing this there should not be any images that it finds in that folder so no images get displyed in the lirary thus no lag, while "now playing" works as normal.
2.) Hack the "now playing" section and just reduced the resolution size so it only displays at like 100x100.
also wishing someone could make a way that the touch player doesnt include all sound files. if i do an update it includes even my ringtones into the player list. wish there was a way to make it the search folder specific
there is a app for that created by wes over at modaco called DB_TPlayer.Arm.CAB, but it would not run for me maybe you will have better luck.
jebise101 said:
there is a app for that created by wes over at modaco called DB_TPlayer.Arm.CAB, but it would not run for me maybe you will have better luck.
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I have this problem.
To run it, you have to delete all musics on device (include TouchPlayer database). After that, run wes' app and configure it selectin' which folder contain your music files.
It works for me. But after that, DB will not work again.
great will try it out, i don't care if it dosn't run after but as long as it only searches the folders i want it to i fine. Can you remove it after and it will keep the settings?

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im leary about buying this pocket player, because i downloaded for my htc hd2 and it wont play any music files or vid files, i went to to associations in settings and there not checked, and it will not allow me to check them.
is the pocketplayer compatible with the HD2?
change settings / associations
bought it 1 month ago, very happy with it, only listen to audio books not tried video (tcpmp meets my needs) in order to select an item settings/associations tap on the item you want to select, it will hilight then bring up keyboard and press enter, hope this helps. ps works perfectly on my hd2
thanks alot for your reply!! ive been wanting to try to find agood player.
i finally got the settings down now thanks to you!!
next question.. ive went to menu, options library and added my storage card\ music. then tried to play ANY files on my storage card but it wont play or add any of them? and they are all mp3??? they all added fine on windows media player on htc, and they all add fine tcpmp, and coreplayer, but they won't add in pocket player? but it has added all the os ringtones? and custom ringtones ive added to the ringtones folder on the device(not storage card) also it did find my videos. all avi's and it won't play any of them?
any other tips would be appreciated. i dont wanna buy a product that i cannot even get the trial to work!
Thanks for your time and patience!
To make "checking" work, you MUST enable virtual keyboard. Use up/down and enter keys.
BT keyboard also does the trick.
This is a common issue of WM 6.5. I have same problem with pocket player too.
still doesnt work .. this is sad for me caus eim a comp tech and consider myself VERY tech savy. so sorry guys
ive watched while its scanning folders, and it never goes to storage card? just scans... is c program files flip disc? wont goto storage card, and in pocket player settings library folder it shows i have \storage card\music and \storage card\video to monitor for files. and i DO NOT have c program files\flip disc selected.
adding files from memory card
as i said i only use it for audio books and dont use the library but i can tell you how i use it which might meet your needs (i assume "the library" allows you to select contents of a playlist via mp3 tags), i add a book via the "open folder" option this will recurse all sub
directories from the chosen folder and add them to current playlist. i then save the current
playlist via the browse->playlist option, as i said unless your music is well organized this might not suit.
i have just tried creating playlists via album and arist this worked fine all my files are on sd card. just checking are we talking about same player "conduits pocketplayer v4.1", have you tried emailing them, i found their tech support to be v efficient & helpful.
good luck, and happy to help
EDIT - my two pennies worth
works well with cheap ipod handsfree from ebay as play pause work
when device locked (important feature for me), it is currently my
audiobook player of choice beating out rockbox on old ipod, one less
gadget and playback speed adjust with constant pitch.
xtacybyme said:
im leary about buying this pocket player, because i downloaded for my htc hd2 and it wont play any music files or vid files, i went to to associations in settings and there not checked, and it will not allow me to check them.
is the pocketplayer compatible with the HD2?
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I've been using it (I assume you mean Conduit's version) for years now and am now using it on the HD2 with just the minor problem mentioned already (needing to use a soft keyboard to change settings).
Messing with Zoomify on it now, because I had some problems getting precise clicking on the bar where I wanted to jump ahead in a podcast.
If you're still having problems, send them an email - in the past I've found that they were very responsive to problems (same day replies).
polstsien
Messing with Zoomify on it now, because I had some problems getting precise clicking on the bar where I wanted to jump ahead in a podcast.
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how did you get on with zoomify

is there any other Photo view and media player for the X10???(hate mediascap!!)

hi
i realy disappointed of the Mediascape on the X10 its realy slow and not responding to finger touch good enught + the photo viewer is pretty slow!
is there any other APPS i can download to use as viewer and they good and fast enguth??
amir84 said:
hi
i realy disappointed of the Mediascape on the X10 its realy slow and not responding to finger touch good enught + the photo viewer is pretty slow!
is there any other APPS i can download to use as viewer and they good and fast enguth??
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Search the Market, there's a lot of free apps there that you can choose from.
i allready did sch there
didn't find anything useful thats why i'm asking here maybe for some recomndetion
I'm using MixZing for playing music ...
funny these threads. listed as one of the main selling points of this device was mediascape. you must have read that but bought it anyway! did you not try the phone 1st? this is a prime example of why we all should! not having a go so dont start flaming! expressing my opinion. there is no app within the app store that will deliver anything near what mediascape does right now so for this phone its the best you gonna get! in time when custom roms are being made then we may see the likes of what htc have to offer. we are also currently lacking in apps that do offer more but hopefully corecodec will develop an app for android! until then and until custom roms are available i would just stick with mediascape. no matter how much you hate it, the alternatives are even worse!
edit:
some coredec images for the cp2.0 for android.
http://tweetphoto.com/10841643
cybapaddy said:
I'm using MixZing for playing music ...
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i like MixZing! thanks!!
is there any good app also for Photo Viewer ??
playlists
Sorry for hijacking this thread but my question is to do with mediascape.
Anyone figure out how to create playlists in mediascape yet?
The only thing I have found that comes close is starring tracks as favourites, but that only generates one list.
Am I missing something or is it not possible? Cheers.
Baggyb said:
Sorry for hijacking this thread but my question is to do with mediascape.
Anyone figure out how to create playlists in mediascape yet?
The only thing I have found that comes close is starring tracks as favourites, but that only generates one list.
Am I missing something or is it not possible? Cheers.
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Yeah... I don't think that's possible. Which kind of sucks but something I can live with. I mostly just use Spotify anyway.
And I also want to know about any good picture gallery. I had one but it wasn't really good at all.
Ah, fair enough. At least it's not me going daft. I was searching Google and the results were implying that you could generate lists but they must have meant that it could be done via media go software.
As far as media players go i would consider that to be a basic feature that is required (especially if you have a large library).
As for the gallery I can't say I'm too impressed with that either. However I did like the one previewed on the mini. Hopefully that will be included in future updates, if there are to be any.
Just typing this on the phone itself using the HTC keyboard. The only thing missing are the directional arrow keys, tapping the screen in the correct place is hit and miss for me.
You can generate Playlists with the Astro Filemanager, which you should have installed anyway...
Yeah I do have that instaled. I'll try that out. Cheers mate.
PiQture is pretty good photo viewer.
I found se's other music player in the phone but cant shortcut to it to use it easily.
Im using the file manager by nalic (green and blue pie chart icon). Navigate to system/media/audio/ringtones (ogg) and play one, a different player called music opens to play it, now leave the file playing and pull down the notification tray and touch the play icon then press the left menu key then library button and you are in.
Now this player will be listed in the recently used app list (hold middle button) unless it gets moved off the list by opening more than 6 more apps without opening it again to bring it to the front of the list.
I like this one better than mediascape as its less cluttered and straightforward and you can create playlists which are drag and drop editable and show up in mediascape.
It would be nice to get to it easier though.
There is also a video player and picture viewer but they are very simple with few options.
loggy said:
I found se's other music player in the phone but cant shortcut to it to use it easily.
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Hi
I found it too. I managed to create a shortcut on home with Tasker :
hxxp://tasker.dinglisch.net
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Hope this helps.
One of my main reasons for wanting the X10 is mediascape. Since I've only seen videos, and you guys actually have the X10... I'm looking forward to hearing why Mediascape is a poor media player and gallery. It certainly looks more robust and feature filled than any of the current media players I've seen.
Baggyb said:
Sorry for hijacking this thread but my question is to do with mediascape.
Anyone figure out how to create playlists in mediascape yet?
The only thing I have found that comes close is starring tracks as favourites, but that only generates one list.
Am I missing something or is it not possible? Cheers.
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it is possible but via media go I think, I spent ages trying to work out how to get a playlist set up but I think you have to literally set up a play list on your pc, then transfer that playlist on to the phone (?) only reason I say this is because there is a playlist option in the library in media go. Unfortunately I'd already moved my music across before noticing this so didn't want to double it up or remove it and start again.
I found an app called mortplayer which is free and works a charm for music
brightonsblueeyedboy said:
it is possible but via media go I think, I spent ages trying to work out how to get a playlist set up but I think you have to literally set up a play list on your pc, then transfer that playlist on to the phone (?) only reason I say this is because there is a playlist option in the library in media go. Unfortunately I'd already moved my music across before noticing this so didn't want to double it up or remove it and start again.
I found an app called mortplayer which is free and works a charm for music
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Or get a file manager from the market and follow my instructions above, any playlists created will be automatically integrated into mediascape.
Its easy once you suss it. !
Hi,
Anyone know how to disable the mediascape from caching thumbnail for music file ? I think this would vastly improve the speed, as mediascape would only have to read the tagging info and not the image/albumart.
I tried to set the folder as read only, but it doesn't work, the phone still write to it
Hi all - I've sussed this out (alternate Music player and playlists)... download an app called "AnyCut" from the market... in here you can add all sorts of different things.. one of which is under the "activity" option.. called "Music" this is the stock android music app (mentioned by baggyb above).. this way you'll have a link to the music app on your home page which you can then use to create your playlists...
All these work arounds to create playlist are fine but the main PIA is when I want to add tracks to Current Play list while listening to music. Can't be done. I hope SE will soon release a upgrade to address some of these basic issues.
Also, when you try to add contact as Shortcut on Home Screen it brings up list of all contacts and there is no search or 'letter' list on side to select the names. You can to scroll all the way down to select names. I guess SE QA and design team tested the phone only with one track of music and one contact in address book.

How to create a custom music playlist in Mediascape..

I have been trying to figure out how to make a custom music playlist in Mediascape on the Xperia X10. I have searched all over the web and came up with only the Media Go option to create playlist from the PC. Anyone know a way to create one from the phone itself?
I think that the playlists do not work in mediascape. I´ve created a playlist in the Media GO aplication and import into the phone but I can´t see them in mediascape...
But if I open for example Meridian player - playlist´s are there and works fine.
See my post >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=659893&page=2#13 << about the other media player in the phone, Its quite easy to do and playlists can be created and edited very easily and show in mediascape automaticaly.
Your not alone mate, I posted on this about a week ago.
It's seems that as good as MediaScape is, it doesn't offer the basic ability to create playlists.
Now there are workarounds for creating playlists on the x10 itself which MediaScape will recognise.
1. Install Astro file Manager from the market (free)
- Navigate to your Music folder on SD card
- Locate a track and long press, you should get a "Music Options" button.
- Within Music options you can either set as "ringtone" or "Add to a Playlist". (Please note this only seems to work with certain files i.e MP3)
2. Install Astro file Manager from the market (free)
- Navigate to /System/app
- Locate the sndroid Music player called "Music"
- Long press and select open as
- Select Audio
This will bring you into androids bult-in media player that SE have carefully hidden.
It loads your media library and allows you to create playlists easily, which will be instantly picked up by MediaScape.
You can always create shortcuts to the music app.
Long winded i know, and i'm suprised and disappointed that SE didn't include this facility in the Scape.
Thanks a lot for all the helpful info. So sad that mediascape is handicapped by lacking this feature. Would be nice to just be able to do all this in mediascape.
Any way of creating a link for this on the home screen??... and slightly off topic.. is there a standard android photo viewer hidden away too?
Mediascape detects the .m3u playlists in my music folder though.. Now I just have to find out how to make those playlists.
Hi all - I've sussed this out... download an app called "AnyCut" from the market... in here you can add all sorts of different things.. one of which is under the "activity" option.. called "Music" this is the stock android music app (mentioned by baggyb above).. this way you'll have a link to the music app on your home page which you can then use to create your playlists...

So annoying!! System sounds in playlist

Every time i load a rom or anything and try to find my music on my phone...it also adds ALL the system sounds to my playlists...wtf...how can one jam when your hearing chimes and dings after a tight song!?!?!!?! if someone has any insight on this please reply! there's got to be a faster way other than manually deleting each system sound out of the playlist....
i remember when i was using WM (currently on android for past 2+ months), i achieved this with the wonderful "pocketplayer". i didn't use it as much on the hd2 because of known compatibility issues, but i believe a new WM6.5 compatible version has been released recently by conduit (previous version was only compatible with up to WM6.1).
what i'm trying to say is that most default players act "dumb" when it comes to scanning your library. pocketplayer has a very configurable library (much like the desktop winamp) and allows choosing SPECIFIC folders to "watch" as your library. i had it point to ONLY my music folder and i was good to go. i could add/remove songs from the folders using a file manager etc and pocketplayer would gracefully update its library.
give it a go and let us know!
Try S2P, that to can be set to a specific folder.
Resize your album art or find better pics and resize them to 480x480, save as folder .jpg in each album folder and you'll love it.
folders on storage card can be excluded in registry
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config]
"sd_exclude_path_path_1"="\\FOLDER_1_PATH"
"sd_exclude_path_type_1"=dword:00000000
"sd_exclude_path_path_2"="\\FOLDER_2_PATH"
"sd_exclude_path_type_2"=dword:00000000
etc. etc.
in the same place there is also a key "device_scan_path_path", not sure what it does though, and - alas - have no time to check

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