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An inquiry in a very important matter

hello developers
i bought a htc p3400 for a month i read all most all the threads on upgrading gene to WM 6 i tried to know everything before getting myself in troubles so i thought that i must take your professional advice i know all the procedures all the way long to get my gene upgraded but i wanted to know it perfectly before doing anything.
my gene have WM 5 and i am attaching all my gene information pics so you would be able to tell me the best for my gene
so please refer me the links for the tutored instructions for upgrading and the best ROM (better be the original ROM of the p3400i ) ,the best hspl, and the best procedures all the way long .
another request if there is a tutorial video indicating the procedures, it would be very helpful
some information to consider :
s/n: HT8229fw=====
ONBL : 1.10.0000
SPL : 1.10.0000
GSM : 02.79.90
OS : 1.10.0.0
also i had made a ROM dump ( OS.nb , EXTROM.nb )
so i want to know how to use it and transform it into a flash able image so i would be able to restore it to its original state if anything wrong happens
i know i have said that i know all the procedures so why i am asking these so many questions but i wanted to know the advice of the professionals and the developers so i wont do anything wrong specially as i'm in a country that there is no support for htc devices, i have been told that no one would help me as the xda-developers.com users .
i know i asked for many things but please try to help me out and i'll appreciate your help.
i am only asking you to refer me to the perfect threads for my gene
and to refer me to the original ROM of the htc p3400i .
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

1st: do a Hard-SPL;
2nd: Flash your device with a rom.
For your device i recommend you read this Thread

thank you man
sorry man but do you think i wont be having any problems at all with this one
and would you be kind and tell me where i can find the original ROM for the p3400i please
( if you know)
many many thanks for your reply.
and waiting for more recommendings

Genuine advice
Dear brother
My sincere advice regarding upgrading with all these custom ROM is DO NOT GO FOR IT.
Ofcourse u can try these if you are flush with money and do not mind if ur gene becomes bricked.
Okay, Let me tell u some thing. Instead of changing the ROM, you can install some third party applications in ur gene which will improve the look & performance and there is no fear of bricking ur device.
My suggestions:
Batti - freeware
Pocket digital clock - freeware
SPB pocket plus or SPB mobile shell
SPB phone suite
Wiscode Pocketalarm
Second today
SPB Time
SPB Traveler
Vito funcontact - Shareware
Install all these and keep them in the same order in ur today screen and you will see the difference

thanks man for the advice but there is a solution for the bricked genes here
by orefkov and i had made a ROM dump for mine to be prepared
and i'm not going to do this upgrade for only the look
thank you man
and waiting

I only mention this custom rom because is the only available right now for the new genes (s/n: HT8xx).
The only risky process is the hard-spl. Flash a rom never gave me problems (already lost count of how many times I did it testing my cooked roms).
There is a official rom (wm 6.0) here in the forum, but I'm not sure if it works in the new genes.
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PS. sorry 4 my bad english.

To ramersonw
TO ramersonw
thanks man for your concern
i know i'm asking too much but would you be able to talk to in chat my email is [email protected] or you can give me yours cause i have got many questions (not soo many ) and we also could others help on the original wm6 Rom matter because i want just to make sure so i would very thankful for your cooperation .
thank you

sorry bro but I access the Internet primarily from work and here is not allowed the use of messengers. Post yours questions here and if i know the answer i'll reply
That way others can help too.

hay man never mind
i think you are right (so others can help too)
thank you and i have a request :
i wanted to know how to dump the gene's ipl , spl and the ONBL and even the radio,
should i make a full dump of the Rom to include these things ?and if it is can anybody tell me how?please help me on this one
thank you guys

to ramersonw
hi sir ,in ur signature u said u coocked rom urself fpr 3400
i also want some information from u .can u tell me what are the settings for
htc rom tool
Product version: 1.1.0
i have dumped os.nb and ExtROM.nb.
and can i use dumped files other than gene.all the settings and applications remain in dump file or it will a fresh (like factory settings).
if u r using anyother tool plz tell me completely.
i hope u will help me,i m waiting for ur reply!

XIP
can anyone tell me what is xip???

This Can Be Help Us!!!!!
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18745

To mido0109850352
To dump ipl, spl and radio you need an original rom(wm5.0 or wm6.0) and use nbhextract to dump. I do not know if you can directly dump from the device. Maybe using pdocread
To deepv84
For HTCRT, simply select gene, and it will load the settings needed.
No. you CANNOT use os.nb from others devices than gene. it will not boot.
I made a kitchen for Gene and I'm planning releasing it soon.
I still have to correct some errors before.
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sorry 4 my english, i hope you can understand.

deepv84 said:
can anyone tell me what is xip???
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XipRegion

Thanks man i'll try it tonight
and for the original wm5 i downloaded it and i already dumped out from it the spl and the ONBL but i am not sure how to figure which version it is so that is why i needed to dump my own ones so i would be sure.
thanks again
but again i needed something else to be sure of ,and i'll appreciate anybody help.
The matter is ,as i traveled through out the hole gene section and read a lot i found that some genes have s/n ht8xxx but in fact accept the old hard spl without any problems , but some other gene with also s/n ht8xxx but in the conterary does not accept it .why?
in my opinion i think the way of of hard spl gene is based on the spl version firstly not on the s/n or the device manufacture date because mine is having s/n ht8xxx but with a 1.10.0000 spl as the same ones that accepted the old hradspl so if you have spl 1.10.0000 you would use the old one and if the spl is 1.17.0000 you should need the new one.
don't you think so?
i am wandring if any one had noticed this thing too and if i'm wrong please correct my thoughts
thank you guys

To mido0109850352
hi sir, every custom rom which i got from this site doesn't contain spl ,ipl
every nbh file contain only os.nb and ext_rom.nb.
and u said u r going to use spl, ipl, from wm 5 rom.
i m novice but i also want to create a full backup of my running rom ,so i m searching a lot in this matter.the orignal posted wm5 rom is not matching with my running rom.so it is useless for me.
and i also have questions -WHY Costom roms dosen't have root certificates??
--can by available backup tools i can dump sucseesfully my all rom parts and cook a rom like original shipped rom?????
if u know How to do plz tell procidure!!!!!!
please!!!!!!!

CAN ANYONE tell me !!!!!!??????
how can check my cooked rom is working fine or not without flashing to my device ,i mean there is any testing tool or emulator for checking cooked ROM???

to deepv84
i had successfully dumped my rom into os.nb and extrom.nb using dump_gene_os_extrom.zip and converted it to flash able (.nbh) file using htcrt (in the attachments)
and while i was searching i found useful tool to dump spl directly from the device (in the attachments ) and i successfully dumped it.
i found another tool to dump the ipl but it didn't work good i think it is for another device (in the attachments too).
but after all searching i finally found the important parts of the rom is the OS.nb and EXTROM.nb wich you can convert them using htcrt(also attached)
because after you do a hard spl for your device hopefully you wont be needing the original spl again because the hard spl will allow you to flash any rom you want even the one you dumped.
but man try to be sure that everything in the right place before doing anything to your gene
take care man

wooooooooooooow yahooooooooooo
hey guys
I has just cracked my gene i couldn't believe my eyes but really i cracked it i am posting for every one who helped me
( many thanks guys special thanks for "Sumit Bhardwaj" you are the man) thanks again guys.
i'll post later on the procedures i followed now i am searching for the best rom for gene to flash .
and if anyone need help i am up to it .
it really worth it
wooooooooow

Congratulations. Now comes the fun

Abt upgrading

well i hav decided to upgrade my gene!
i just wanted to ask which rom would be better for gene coz i found tons of roms over here!
well i want to upgrade with manila 2d integrated rom
n i hav sm questions to ask
will there br any increase in ram?
n i hav i mate jama wid wm5 also will that rom work on i mate also?
plz developers help!

About roms, you have to flash some of them and choose the one who best fits for your needs. That rom will be the best.
You can't flash roms made for gene in other device. If you do this you'll brick that device.

thnx for help!i really appreciate!

[Q]please help me guys

Hi, I have elfin (HTC Touch) and I have Windows Mobile 6 professional and I want to upgrade it to 6.5 so can anyone type me a link so I can download the ROM directly because there is more than one ROM in the forum and I'm afraid to download a wrong one so please help me...thanks

First you read this guide completely.
Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406721

I read it well and I knew big information about my elfin but really I don't know how to start please tell my what to do first I can tell you the info about my elfin
ROM Version:2.20.707.1B WWE
ROM Date:10/02/07
Radio Version:03.07.90
Protocol Version:4.1.13.51
EXT ROM Version:2.20.707.101
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)

mind my sarcasm...but he meant to say...to upgrade your device without damaging it...you will need to follow some instructions....and if you read it well and if you are a sane guy...then you would atleast EDIT your POST and remove the god damn IMEI of your device....people dont give away their IMEI jus like that you know...its something only you should know...and jus so you know...i m not trying to piss you off cos you are as we call a newbie....so here is a breakdown of what you need to do
1. your device is an ELFIN...so we know
2. jus like you unlock your sim to use your phone...you need to unlock your device...(so that it becomes writable)
3. to do so...you would need to make use of a part of software called USPL and IPL...USPL does the part of keeping your device unlocked...and IPL needs to remain the same series....if you flashed a USPL of 3.XX then your IPL shud be 3.XX series
4. now do the reading on your own this time and discover all flavours of 6.5 ROMS available here....
btw i wonder why you havent tried the official 6.1 ROM from HTC

thanks so much, first i don't know even the difference between the 6.1 and the 6.5 but when i saw some topics about 6.5 and the people said that it works better with the HTC touch so I think in that, now i made a backup ROM from the one i have is that good step and i already downloaded 2 different ROMs from the forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552371 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540)
but how can i make the device rewritable is there a application i can download? and what's your opinion to upgrade to 6.1 or 6.5?

Upgrade to 6.5 Final Build 21234.
Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3346614&postcount=5230

zoom-z said:
thanks so much, first i don't know even the difference between the 6.1 and the 6.5 but when i saw some topics about 6.5 and the people said that it works better with the HTC touch so I think in that, now i made a backup ROM from the one i have is that good step and i already downloaded 2 different ROMs from the forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552371 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540)
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Tht's a good thing to backup your Original ROM, should be helpful in case of errors, bricking or re-servicing. (though i forgot to do mine )
zoom-z said:
but how can i make the device rewritable is there a application i can download? and what's your opinion to upgrade to 6.1 or 6.5?
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There's is no problem about being not rewritable or sort! Once you CID unlock and upgrade your IPL/SPL, you can upgrade or degrade your device to any ROM you like whenever u like!
About opinions, there are alot of people here and would obviously have their own different opinions and so you will have too! I'd ask you to try out ROMs yourself and use the suitable one you choose. If you'd like to have a stable ROM, i'd advice you to use the 6.1 ROMs and if you'd like to have newer latest builds, you can go for the 6.5 ROMs (which have been optimized to their best stable by respective cooks). In the end, its up to you which you choose as your BEST ROM!
PS: Do read if the ROM is suitable for your device, in this case- Elfin and few FAQs posted out by the ROM cook. Respect others work and last but not least Read & Search before asking Questions!!

Thank you very much I finally upgraded my elfin to windows mobile 6.5 and it's awesome but i still have one more thing i want to make it read and write Arabic language without convert the whole interface is there a patch? I already searched about that and i found a file but it's not an application and I don't know how to use it. before that in my old 6.0 i downloaded an application when i install it, it solves the whole situation then i tried it with the 6.5 but the start menu won't open after i installed it so i formatted the ROM.

ayyu3m said:
mind my sarcasm...but he meant to say...to upgrade your device without damaging it...you will need to follow some instructions....and if you read it well and if you are a sane guy...then you would atleast EDIT your POST and remove the god damn IMEI of your device....people dont give away their IMEI jus like that you know...its something only you should know...and jus so you know...i m not trying to piss you off cos you are as we call a newbie....so here is a breakdown of what you need to do
1. your device is an ELFIN...so we know
2. jus like you unlock your sim to use your phone...you need to unlock your device...(so that it becomes writable)
3. to do so...you would need to make use of a part of software called USPL and IPL...USPL does the part of keeping your device unlocked...and IPL needs to remain the same series....if you flashed a USPL of 3.XX then your IPL shud be 3.XX series
4. now do the reading on your own this time and discover all flavours of 6.5 ROMS available here....
btw i wonder why you havent tried the official 6.1 ROM from HTC
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are there official 6.1 rom from htc? or is it for elfin only because i can't find official 6.1 for elf..

zoom-z said:
Thank you very much I finally upgraded my elfin to windows mobile 6.5 and it's awesome but i still have one more thing i want to make it read and write Arabic language without convert the whole interface is there a patch? I already searched about that and i found a file but it's not an application and I don't know how to use it. before that in my old 6.0 i downloaded an application when i install it, it solves the whole situation then i tried it with the 6.5 but the start menu won't open after i installed it so i formatted the ROM.
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hi, first of all, the backup you have done is probably not ready to be flashed, so whatever you do, dont flash that again or u will brick your phone.
arabic? take a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281
and finally, i think it will be better if u update ur ipl to 3.10 too.

thanks crapula512 but what you mean with the backup not ready to be flashed? is there any other step ?

zoom-z said:
thanks crapula512 but what you mean with the backup not ready to be flashed? is there any other step ?
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what he means is....you may brick the device with the backup you just created. so if you wana restore your original...which is the one you have backed up now...you should and can only flash that by making use of USPL or HSPL...search the forum for USPL and HSPL...and you will be given guides...
btw...you really like writing in bold letters eh...kinda makes us feel we are blind...

zoom-z said:
Thank you very much I finally upgraded my elfin to windows mobile 6.5 and it's awesome but i still have one more thing i want to make it read and write Arabic language without convert the whole interface is there a patch? I already searched about that and i found a file but it's not an application and I don't know how to use it. before that in my old 6.0 i downloaded an application when i install it, it solves the whole situation then i tried it with the 6.5 but the start menu won't open after i installed it so i formatted the ROM.
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Hi Zoom-Z
check this link http://www.ce4arab.com/vb7/showthread.php?t=153346
you will need to create n account nd download the arabic support or you can download it free from HTC after regestering to HTC eclub
after installing the arabic suit enter setup and disable arabic interface and restart

thank you so much crapula

thanks you very much crapula for this advice

[Q] Update P3650 to W6.5 - Help me

Hi everybody
I have a Touch Cruise P3650. I have upgrade from W6.0 to W6.1 downloading the zip from the Windows mobile website. I have seen that my phone can be updated to W6.5. Can anyone show me how to do this in clear and short way because I'm not so familiar with terms and abbreviations used in forum. I'm a junior member of the forum.
Thanks in advance

Solution
Jimikas said:
Hi everybody
I have a Touch Cruise P3650. I have upgrade from W6.0 to W6.1 downloading the zip from the Windows mobile website. I have seen that my phone can be updated to W6.5. Can anyone show me how to do this in clear and short way because I'm not so familiar with terms and abbreviations used in forum. I'm a junior member of the forum.
Thanks in advance
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Download ur preferred rom in this forum..... the best roms for touch cruise will be Megan rom, Pcarvalho, 3LITE and kostas244.... download any of tat roms and upgrade ur touch cruise...
before upgrading anything in ur w6.5... pls do hard-spl before u upgrade.... hard-spl is needed in order for u to upgrade to 6.5..... hard-spl is also available in this same touch cruise forum...

Thanks karthik. And which ROM do you think is best for my phone?

Check the threads of every ROM and see for yourself
pcarvalho eXtreme is the ROM of my choice and it still has support as he has just released an update for it, but again, it would be best for you to just see what features every ROM has and choose the most suitable one

[Q] Confused! :|

Hello!
I've have a new gene i.e. P3400i with Original HTC ROM windows 6.... and i want to flash it with new 6.5 Roms cooked here by many members and i really appreciate their work ... I'm confused in choosing proper ROM from the POOL of ROM's available in forum.... i no this question is outdated but still can anyone help me to choose which ROM to burn so as i get good phone performance and also good in GUI!.... I've seen lite version ROM's here also but still not able to decide which to use for my GENE.....
my second question is, can anyone provide the GENE SERVICE MANUAL or REPAIR MANUAL and not User manual.... i need it... i'll be highly obliged if anyone provide it.. . i searched on the web but couldn't find..

suraj18 said:
Hello!
I've have a new gene i.e. P3400i with Original HTC ROM windows 6.... and i want to flash it with new 6.5 Roms cooked here by many members and i really appreciate their work ... I'm confused in choosing proper ROM from the POOL of ROM's available in forum.... i no this question is outdated but still can anyone help me to choose which ROM to burn so as i get good phone performance and also good in GUI!.... I've seen lite version ROM's here also but still not able to decide which to use for my GENE.....
my second question is, can anyone provide the GENE SERVICE MANUAL or REPAIR MANUAL and not User manual.... i need it... i'll be highly obliged if anyone provideThis it.. . i searched on the web but couldn't find..
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I guess you could try to wm 6.5 ULTIMATE ™ Series by karan999 ~ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540985
This use SERVICE MANUAL on below

ThanQ veery much rahman bhai, i've gone thorough those roms in the forum they are great but i need some soft looking GUI, m not saying that those roms are not good.. indeed they are good but i like soft colours... by the way can i change the look and feel thorugh some themes or something after installing karan's kitchen roms without taking up much memory and space??
and thanQ very much again for Repair manual