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Most Reliable Speed test

I appear to be one of the many people getting conflicting info on whether we can get HSDPA activated on t-mobile web'n'walk.
I've been trying to determine if it is activated on my account by trying a couple of website speedtests. Unfortunately their results vary quite a bit so I'm not sure which one to believe!
www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest
This site rates my connection speed between 700kbps and 1.2Mbps which indicates to me HSDPA is activated.
However,
www.dslreports.com
tends to return results between 370 and 405kbps. These are around normal 3G speeds as far as I understand.
Obviously the two tests are providing markedly different results which I understand could be due to a whole host of reasons.
I'd be interested to know what other people's results are, or if there are any other speed test sites they would recommend?
Cheers

If your getting over 300kbps then you are using HSDPA. There are 3 connection you can get 1) GPRS 30-70 kbps, 2) EDGE 70-140 kbps and 3) UMTS/HSDPA 320kbps-1.2mbps.

But I think what he's trying to say here, which test is the most reliable? because the test at 2Wire, has HSDPA going up to almost 3Mbps, which isn't true at all. I personally don't know which is the most reliable really.

This may be of interest for those of you following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276154
I finally got my my-t-mobile pin through so I checked to see if HSDPA was listed in my services (see the thread above). It wasn't so I phoned up and luckily got a helpful CS person who said he could acitvate that no problem.
I then went and did some more speed tests at the websites listed above. The summary of results is as follows:
Pre-HSDPA being turned on
bandwidhtplace - between 900kb and 1.2Mb
dslreports - between 200kb and 400kb
Post-HSDPA being enabled
bandwidhtplace - between 900kb and 1.4Mb
dslreports - between 400kb and 900kb
What this says to me is that the test at bandwidthplace is totally unreliable as I clearly didn't have HSDPA enabled before yet I regularily got results > 1Mb and it hasn't really changed much since!!
Hope this is of use!

HSDPA/GPRS Internet Very Slow

Hi folks, I absolutely love my X1, and am still learning how to use it.
This is the first contract I have had, which has an internet package included, so for the first time, I am experiencing internet on my phone.
I am confused however, as I am sure I read somewhere that the X1 was capable of connection speeds of 7mb/s, whereas I am getting a performance more akin to 56kb/s dialup. Webpages often take 10-20 seconds to load.
I realise that the speed is probably dictated by the network (Vodafone UK in my case), but this is ridiculously slow. Is this normal, or can I tweak my settings in anyway to get something closer to a broadband experience on my phone?
Thanks
Gopes

are you using the pc or the xperia to load the websites? 10-20 sec are quite normal for a full webpage like cnet.de on the xperia. and the theorethical connection speed is 7.2 mbit/s not 7Mb/s!

Heh,
you'll never load a page on 2 seconds, if that's what you ask

"Loading speed" is not equal to "Download speed"
Yes HSDPA can go up to 7,200 kbps or even 14,400 kbps "download speeds"
But many factors have influence on "loading speed": your settings and software (browser, cache, processor speed, plugins...), phone (EDGE, 3g, HSDPA...) AND your provider/carrier's bandwith
If you want to test your REAL "download speed" there are some "download speed meter" web pages around
7,200 kbps is very thoerical. Your operator has the full cake and will never reveeal the real size of the cake (1000 kbps ??)
If every user in your area starts phone-browsing at the same time then your operator's cake will be sliced, thus giving a piece of the cake to everyone

Thanks for the responses. Seems like my phone's internet access speed is normal then
Oh well, I have a 1mbit connection on my pc - but my phone is no way near as quick to open pages as my pc. Maybe the next generation of phones will have a better internet capability.
Thanks
Bcfaigg

bcfaigg said:
Thanks for the responses. Seems like my phone's internet access speed is normal then
Oh well, I have a 1mbit connection on my pc - but my phone is no way near as quick to open pages as my pc. Maybe the next generation of phones will have a better internet capability.
Thanks
Bcfaigg
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Exactly.
However, try also OperaMini, which with a fast connection is really quick.
As for OperaMobile 9.5, remember that your device with 528mHz processor and 120MB of free RAM has to load a page
which is normally operated by the computer which is few times stronger.

I've got a 1.8mbit site 300 metres up the road from me and surfing the web on HSDPA is super fast
Just waiting for Vodafone to upgrade it to a 7.2 (which most likely won't happen for many years).

urrghhh i know about vodafone speeds. Its nothing short of terrible on the X1 and not just cos of voda, its cos the radio is rubbish. I cant upgrade to diamond radio (device locked...) and so I can't ever get more than 2 bars on "H".
Can someone tell me if 3-4 bars with 3G icon is better/worse than 1-2 bars with the H icon?? I'm suspecting the former is faster.
In which case, can I set the phone to connect via 3G all the time and then ignore H connections??

domyue said:
...Can someone tell me if 3-4 bars with 3G icon is better/worse than 1-2 bars with the H icon?? I'm suspecting the former is faster??
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EDGE < 3G < HSDPA (HSDPA is also called "3.5G" by someines)
EDGE MAX: 128 kbps
UMTS 3G MAX: 512 kbps
HSDPA MAX: 14,400 kbps

I managed to download a .net3.5 cab file (2.5mb) in under 5 seconds on my X1 over UK Vodafone HSDPA today

Touch HD - O2 users in UK: 3G Speeds

Having moved from an iPhone 3G to the Touch HD (and having previously owned over 5 other HTC phones), I'm finding the 3G speeds abysmal!
I was expecting Opera to be slower than Safari, but not to the extent that I have found.
Try news.bbc.co.uk or guardian.co.uk on Opera - both take around 30-60 seconds to appear! Is that the experience of other O2 customers in the UK, or on other networks?
I would also like feedback on which ROM/Radio versions you are running - I am currently on Duttys 1.7 with the 1.10 radio.
Thanks all!

Cant speak for O2 but on t-mobile, cnn takes 11 secs and the beeb takes 9secs to load. Remember that 3g quality can influence these speeds too. I'm on Dutty's 1.7.

Thanks for that. Can you try a speed test on something like www.dslreports.com/mspeed - might be a useful comparison. Try a few tests to get a average. Thanks.

212Kbit/sec for me on O2
Edders

That is slow!
Some of my test have been over 1mb but browsing feels slow!

400KB file @ 714kb/seconds on Orange 3G in my living room in a house.

you should be lucky you can get it at all, my home is on a hill with a direct line of sight to the o2 radio mast and i cant even get 3G!
Ive tried a new SIM im about to try a new radio ROM but all in all i just dont seem to be able to get it.

On O2 using Laurentius' V6 and with 3-4 bars of HSDPA from Kingston upon Thames....
I used Internet Explorer, downloaded the 1MB test file from http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed and got 474k/sec
Then I tested Opera with 1MB file and got 297 k/sec
Then I tested IE again (1 MB) to double check the speed and got 222 k/sec
Then double checked with Opera (1 MB)and got 351 k/sec
So what does this tell us? Well IE has the fastest and slowest download speed and Opera is somewhere in the middle so I don't think it tells us anything except download speeds can fluctuate quite significantly in a very short space of time! Not very helpful or consistent.
I noticed my average latency was 0.5 sec, which is made much less significant with a big download but by downloading small files or web pages the latency will have a much more noticable effect.
I also ran the test on my PC using my company network which is quite fast for browsing and only got 400k/sec but the latency was just 0.1 sec

UK Internet Speeds on HD2!

Hey everyone. I was just trying out how fast my HD2, on 3's network, can go I have attached a screenshot below. How fast can your phone's internet connection go?
Ps. Using your Data Connection, not WiFi

On o2, using the 1mb test, 2985kbps
edit: tried it again with the 3mb test... 3419kbps.

I've read (but cant remember where) that mobilespeedtest isn't all that reliable. I'll keep looking see if i can find a reference for that.
edit - i know this is a pc test, but heres the results using the 2 meg test. a factor of 10 out. (i have 10mb bb)

Yup mobilespeedtest.com just basically tells BS. Maybe it works if you're close to their server, but no idea how it's based.
Here I get results varying between 500kbps and 1200kbps, even on my PC with 25Mbps cable broadband. Still haven't found one that works reliably for mobiles. If I test from my own server I get about 2500kbps, which is my upload cap, so 3G is faster than that here but can't find how much...

speedtest.net, Opera 10 mobile, HD2 is slower on WIFI than on Tmous?

First I apologize if this has been covered in another post - I searched but couldn't find and if so a redirect would be appreciated.
I'm trying to determine just how fast data can be pushed through the phone and I've run into some problems.
I'm trying to use speedtest.net to do this and it was working with the stock ROM but since I've been trying different ROMs (3 of them in fact) I always get the error "Missing License Key" in he Speedtest.net window.
Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
Since that one doesn't work I've been using the Speedtest.net mini. That at least gives me up and download speeds.
But I've also found that whne I connect to the internet with WiFi the speeds are almost slower than a decent H connection.
It's rare that I get over 3 down /1.5 up on a WiFi N connection that has 20+Mbit Comcast connection behind it.
Here I'd just like to confirm if everybody else is seeing the same thing:
What dl/ul speeds are your seeing with your HD2 connected to a fast wireless router?

On the stock ROM it wasn't much higher than the 3G.

Not for me, I usually get 13-14 Mbps down/ 50 kBps (stupid cable upload speeds) up on wifi and around 1.8 Mbps down/ 1.5 Mbps up on HSXPA/UMTS.

I personally have very little faith in the reliability of numbers from speedtest.net
Try testing this way...use IE instead of opera, and go to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest (it wont run in opera but will in IE). When I use that method while connected to my home wifi, I get the exact same speed my desktop gets using the same dsl source (just a hair over 5MB down), which my 3g connection here has yet to match...usually caps out at around 3MB or so.

I've seen the same behaviour as the OP.
My Wi-fi speeds are slower than my HSPA speeds.

I had same issue as well. I had bsb tweaks installed. I disabled the wifi n tweak. after that both my 3g and wifi speeds went up. Re-enabled the tweak to see if speeds would be reduced and this time only the wifi speeds increased again. tweak must of been causing some sort of issue with the 3g and wifi speeds. Try disabling it, soft reset and than re-enable the tweak. Hopefully it works for you as it did for me.

hbkgabe said:
I had same issue as well. I had bsb tweaks installed. I disabled the wifi n tweak. after that both my 3g and wifi speeds went up. Re-enabled the tweak to see if speeds would be reduced and this time only the wifi speeds increased again. tweak must of been causing some sort of issue with the 3g and wifi speeds. Try disabling it, soft reset and than re-enable the tweak. Hopefully it works for you as it did for me.
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Thx for that tip!
i'll try it out

Thanks everyone for the replys!
jdwrrzmm said:
On the stock ROM it wasn't much higher than the 3G.
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Which ROM are you using and how much faster is it? Do you see a large speed difference with a different ROM between a fast WiFi and 3g/h?
The only real difference I noticed between the stock and 3 other ROMS I've installed so far is that I wasted a long time trying to get WiFi working in KAOS but never could. I was able to get a connection but the client never reported an IP address. Turns out the ROM I was using was not specifically for the TMOUS HD2 so maybe that was the cause.
jubeh said:
Not for me, I usually get 13-14 Mbps down/ 50 kBps (stupid cable upload speeds) up on wifi and around 1.8 Mbps down/ 1.5 Mbps up on HSXPA/UMTS.
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My situation is reversed; the cable manages 3mb up on the PC but the 3G/H is almost always much slower on upload than download.
Which ROM are you using?
sirphunkee said:
..use IE instead of opera, and go to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest ..."
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Thanks, that was an excellent suggestion; I hadn't tried this particular site before and while it uses the same data as speedtest.net it also allows a specific destination and works with IE.
In random testing on WiFi I got around 7-8Mb down, 3 Mb up. While driving around the local area I got 5 bars from two different towers and found an average 1.0Mb dl, 0.8Mb up, and that was pretty constant whether moving or stopped.
I've also noticed in general that the "H" only appears whenever data is actually being transferred (sounds like our back-end hasn't been upgraded). Right now I can get neither the speedtest.net nor the mini version to work - the windows just stay white.
I'll keep trying both of them to compare over the next few weeks but I think the biggest part of the problem is Adobe Flash. There is a reason why Apple doesn't support them and I don't think it's all political like Adobe would have us believe.
I've also done some more experimenting with mobilespeedtest.com as well as general testing over the past few days.
Mobile speed test shows that IE seems to be faster/more stable than Opera - by probably 5 to 20%. While the absolute numbers had alot of variability, Opera was unable to complete the 5 MB and 7 MB tests at all; the browser window just remained blank.
The other thing to throw in here while trying to clean up the phone I found the post about doing a hard reset and that also seemed to help. I don't have any solid data but I would certainly hard reset it again and recommend it to anyone that has changed ROMS much or done a lot of installing/deinstalling of cabs.
scrizz said:
I've seen the same behaviour as the OP.
My Wi-fi speeds are slower than my HSPA speeds.
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By how much roughly? Are you also on the stock ROM?
That certainly jibes with what I found on the stock ROM using speedtest.net.
hbkgabe said:
I had same issue as well. I had bsb tweaks installed. I disabled the wifi n tweak. after that both my 3g and wifi speeds went up. Re-enabled the tweak to see if speeds would be reduced and this time only the wifi speeds increased again. tweak must of been causing some sort of issue with the 3g and wifi speeds. Try disabling it, soft reset and than re-enable the tweak. Hopefully it works for you as it did for me.
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I don't have BSB tweaks installed currently but I performed the WirelessN tweak in the registry. Based on what you've said here I went back and switched it off, did a soft reset, tested and then back on and retested, and found no dramatic difference between any of them. What I found was a lot of variability between the tests in the same setting - even one right after the other. (I would probably do well to review the wireless router settings to see if I can up the data throughput rate.)
To compare I checked a notebook using N located at about the same distance from the router and got speeds a little (5-10%) faster than on the phone (-hardwired into the router I get 25Mbps down). This tells me the phone is as optimized as it's going to be going through my router.
So on the phone I see final scores of about 7-8Mbps down, 2-3 up, with spikes over 10 Mbps down and 4 up during the tests.

Deeted - error post

I tried "mobilespeedtest.com" and get around 1100-1300 kbps on wifi and the same or more when wifi off and using t-mobile (with "H" showing, not 3g).
speakeasy/speedtest on wifi 3421 kbps, off wifi , 3569 kbps (3.57mbps)

DonJohe said:
By how much roughly? Are you also on the stock ROM?
That certainly jibes with what I found on the stock ROM using speedtest.net.
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No, Not on the Stock ROM.

Like Opera Mini and Skyfire, I think Opera Mobile 10 goes through an external server. One cannot get an accurate speed test that way. Use Opera 9, or better IE, as it works with flash speed tests as well, not only the mobile ones.