RDS? - Touch HD General

Hi guys^^
I played a little with the blackstone in our electromarket here in Germany and I plugged my earphones in to test the radio. It was a surprise to me that I noticed it hasn't any rds information, no station information.. Is that true? I mean, I thought its the same radio software as on the diamond, isn't it? And I thought the diamond had RDS.. Anyway, could anyone confirm this, please? Because it could be that I just had cad reception and normally it has RDS (I still hope) many greez, cad^^

RDS
I was just outside with my HD taking a walk. I live in Dallas, Texas and tuned to one of their major stations. It shows the call sign, 99.5, the name of the station The WOLF, the song playing and the artist. It takes a few seconds to go through the cycle but its there.

I can confirm with my Touch HD in Austin, Tx as well. It displays the same info as in my car stereo with RDS.

Glad to hear confirmation that Radio Data System is included as part of the sub-frequency. Always wanted to know the name of the song.

Thank you very much for this confirmation!! I couldn't belive it myself, thats why I asked.. So I'm happy now to hear that everything is fine, oh, sooo looking forward to next week, when I'll get it thank you! This thread can be closed Greez, cad^^

I don't seem to see any rds info in the UK, doesn't it depend on the radio station and what they 'send' in the rds message?
I'm no expert, it's just a guess..!

cojones said:
I don't seem to see any rds info in the UK, doesn't it depend on the radio station and what they 'send' in the rds message?
I'm no expert, it's just a guess..!
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It seems the radio signal has to be quite strong. I have sometimes RDS with some stations, sometimes not.

cojones said:
I don't seem to see any rds info in the UK, doesn't it depend on the radio station and what they 'send' in the rds message?
I'm no expert, it's just a guess..!
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Most UK stations only send the station identifier over RDS.

the HD gives me in Belgium only one line(channel name) on channels who i no are giving two lines of info(channel name +tittle song)....
is there a FM-radio app somewhere where i can try to get the second line?

cojones said:
I don't seem to see any rds info in the UK, doesn't it depend on the radio station and what they 'send' in the rds message?
I'm no expert, it's just a guess..!
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I get several stations coming up with the proper RDS name here, so it does work
The only slightly annoying bit (unless someone can tell me how to change it - I haven't played with it much yet ) is that when you assign a station to one of the buttons at the bottom, the button is labelled with the frequency instead of the name.
Not the biggest problem in the world admitedly - but just seems like a bit of lazy coding if you can't change it.
(Or lazy me, if you can but I didn't find out how )

TCM via RDS ?
just a short question about RDS ?
does the HD support TCM (Traffic Message Channel) via RDS ?
so e.g. TomTom can calculate the actual traffic situation ?

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how it's possible to connect between fm radio & music in phone ?

came to me an idea to connect the music player in the phone to the FM radio in the car to play it ! I'm very positive for it .. since getting TMC from the radio to the gps software (in this thread) , so there is a possbile connection between them ? the question, could someone came with a software or hacking can do this ? with no need to buy external FM CAR KIT device to make it works !
I hope yes ...
Thanks ....
im also looking for such an app..
i had also put down the same question here
Hi, i think you don't really understand whats meant by RDS/TMC through radio. It doesn't get information from your car-radio, it's a build-in radio device within your phone. And this is even a receiver, not a sender. As far as i conern there are onky three ways to connect your phone to your car-radio and all of them are the way 'music from phone to radio'
1.) bluetooth, but only a few radios have got it
2.) via fm-transmitter which is a way whichmostly shold work
3.) vie line in at car radio and line-out/speaker-out/headphone at phone
regards
Bernhard
Bernhard12345 said:
Hi, i think you don't really understand whats meant by RDS/TMC through radio. It doesn't get information from your car-radio, it's a build-in radio device within your phone. And this is even a receiver, not a sender. As far as i conern there are onky three ways to connect your phone to your car-radio and all of them are the way 'music from phone to radio'
1.) bluetooth, but only a few radios have got it
2.) via fm-transmitter which is a way whichmostly shold work
3.) vie line in at car radio and line-out/speaker-out/headphone at phone
regards
Bernhard
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right AFAIK there is no HTC device that can send FM out, just receive. :/
Thanks guys for disappointed me ... idon't really why i'm still positive for making this app maybe it could happend later ..thanks
Bernhard12345 said:
Hi, i think you don't really understand whats meant by RDS/TMC through radio. It doesn't get information from your car-radio, it's a build-in radio device within your phone. And this is even a receiver, not a sender. As far as i conern there are onky three ways to connect your phone to your car-radio and all of them are the way 'music from phone to radio'
1.) bluetooth, but only a few radios have got it
2.) via fm-transmitter which is a way whichmostly shold work
3.) vie line in at car radio and line-out/speaker-out/headphone at phone
regards
Bernhard
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2.) HOW CAN U CONNECT "via fm- transmitter "? ?
Hi imrock,
ask google for it or even ebay. ;-)
1. buy fm-transmitter
2. plug in fm-transmitter to device instead of headphones
3. search for the frequency on which your transmitter transmits at your car radio
4. enjoy
I don't have experiences on my own, but a few weeks ago i've seen a test in a magazin. They summorized as follows: The quality of music is not really good.
Bernhard12345 said:
Hi imrock,
ask google for it or even ebay. ;-)
1. buy fm-transmitter
2. plug in fm-transmitter to device instead of headphones
3. search for the frequency on which your transmitter transmits at your car radio
4. enjoy
I don't have experiences on my own, but a few weeks ago i've seen a test in a magazin. They summorized as follows: The quality of music is not really good.
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hey Bernhard
thanks for the info..i was looking for this only but it isn't of any use if you have to use an attachment, not to mention the quality..!!
But will definitely check tht out

So, the FM radio can't be made to work?

Please forgive me/move thread if this is the inappropriate forum. I couldn't decide for 10 minutes, so I decided to go with the dev forum.
The FM radio: Is it going to be impossible to get it working on the N1? From what I understand the current state of play, devs have got the app working, it scans and finds stations, but it's as though the audio lines are physically not connected up (is this accurate?).
Could it be a limitation of the Alpha status of the Desire ROM being examined?
i think it is radio's fault
if google give us a new radio with fm and maybe some extra mb ram it will work just fine
eesmm said:
Please forgive me/move thread if this is the inappropriate forum. I couldn't decide for 10 minutes, so I decided to go with the dev forum.
The FM radio: Is it going to be impossible to get it working on the N1? From what I understand the current state of play, devs have got the app working, it scans and finds stations, but it's as though the audio lines are physically not connected up (is this accurate?).
Could it be a limitation of the Alpha status of the Desire ROM being examined?
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I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
And if you don't have the hardware, you don't have the hardware. Software can't magically make up for it.
It'd be like trying to get an FM signal out of a toaster.
Paul22000 said:
I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
And if you don't have the hardware, you don't have the hardware. Software can't magically make up for it.
It'd be like trying to get an FM signal out of a toaster.
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It has the hardware...there is a Gizmodo (think it was them) teardown of N1. Discusses the FM capabilities. Also...Desire and N1 have same hardware on the inside (different trackball feature and buttons..but the same). There are posts around the forums confirming this by Modaco and some others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/ was Ifixit.com, reported on engadget
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I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
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The Nexus One features a Broadcom BCM4329 chipset with "IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n system (MAC/baseband/radio) with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and FM radio receiver and transmitter" (according to Broadcom's product page).
It may not be fully connected up, or it may just be a software issue (hence my asking in this thread) but the hardware is in there.
eesmm said:
The Nexus One features a Broadcom BCM4329 chipset with "IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n system (MAC/baseband/radio) with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and FM radio receiver and transmitter" (according to Broadcom's product page).
It may not be fully connected up, or it may just be a software issue (hence my asking in this thread) but the hardware is in there.
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What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
It's possible we may never get this feature working. Not a big deal to me, though. Pandora works fine!
pjcforpres said:
What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
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The headphones don't have the receiver in it. it simply uses the headphone cable as an Antenna just like the iPod Nano's built in radio.
pjcforpres said:
What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
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any headphone can act as radio antenna...at least it works in nokia symbian phone. no need to use specific headphone.
faizalmzain said:
any headphone can act as radio antenna...at least it works in nokia symbian phone. no need to use specific headphone.
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Yes and no... if the chip set itself has FM, which the Nexus seems to have, then this is true. But for many "dumb" phones it is the head set itself. This is why I said may need the Desires headphones, and then went on to say it seems more like a lack of a completed ROM/app, since you can tune, just no sound.
would love to see FM radio working on my N1
zmalach said:
would love to see FM radio working on my N1
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+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
teleknEsis said:
+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
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That's a good point.
Exactly why I have my ipod Nano..
KEVIN AND BEAN!! I MUST LISTEN TO YOU... oh yea and loveline... only reasons I would want an FM radio...
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+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
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not available in the UK though.
i hope we can tune in on FM soon....
I'm not sure I would use the FM radio every day, sure, but it's an important feature nonetheless. For fast local news with minimal battery drain there's nothing like having a radio handy.
Many of the on-line radio services are great/better, but require you to use precious data bandwidth, and I resent that. I don't like the idea of my phone being a gateway for the phone company to make more money off me. I spend most of my life within wifi hotspots, and use the cellular web service as little as possible. Apps, audio books, and presynched RSS feeds can pass the remaining time.
For example, I was shopping for an iPhone in the final months of '09, and the cell companies all offered to "unlock" the GPS function of the iPhone "for three months for free". Hang on, I asked, the iPhone has its own GPS, so why a) would I need them to "unlock" the capability and b) I would have to pay for my own GPS after the first three months? I learned that, while the GPS coordinates come for free, the maps are the domain of the cell company. Screw that.
One of the best features of the N1 is the built-in Google maps, and while I might be willing to pay one-time for TomTom maps or software (the best GPS OS imho) but pay every month forever, no way.

Weak FM Radio on HD2

Hi I want to ask you about your FM radio - do you have so poor signal as mine - on my old SE P1i I could find plenty of radio stations - on HD2 with with the same headphones - I can find only ONE in mono mode only!!
Is something wrong with my HD2 or it is typical problem of this model??
hanoszi said:
Hi I want to ask you about your FM radio - do you have so poor signal as mine - on my old SE P1i I could find plenty of radio stations - on HD2 with with the same headphones - I can find only ONE in mono mode only!!
Is something wrong with my HD2 or it is typical problem of this model??
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it seems to be an actual problem, lots of people saying the same thing.
I gave up on the radio, mp3's all the way!!!
but it would have been nice.
Mine works great....
i have the same problem with FM reception, i finally gave up and now have switched to internet radio thanks to skyfire.
Pretty crappy here as well.
SreePillai said:
i have the same problem with FM reception, i finally gave up and now have switched to internet radio thanks to skyfire.
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but how about costs of internet streaming i.e. monthly????
hanoszi said:
but how about costs of internet streaming i.e. monthly????
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that really depends on the kind of data plan you have with the network provider. if u r not on an unlimited plan it might not be the most economical choice.
hanoszi said:
Hi I want to ask you about your FM radio - do you have so poor signal as mine - on my old SE P1i I could find plenty of radio stations - on HD2 with with the same headphones - I can find only ONE in mono mode only!!
Is something wrong with my HD2 or it is typical problem of this model??
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i have this problems but it recives channels via manual tuning
hoss_n2 said:
i have this problems but it recives channels via manual tuning
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Yeep but this stations wich I find manually are still with poor quality of signal so this is not a solution ;(
Same problem -- I used a Touch HD for 18 months and the radio was great. I use it every morning while walking the dogs. But, on the HD2 the radio is noticeably less sensitive and there's intermittent interference on stations that the HD pulled in clearly. I'm using the same wired headset on both.
Since I still have the HD, does anybody think it's a software issue? Or is it in the hardware? Could I copy the radio software from the HD to the HD2?
Thanks
yes I found the same thing between the hd and hd2 radios.
I don't bother using the radio on the hd2 because it's so weak.
Would love a solution to have it working well ie not just streaming instead.

FM Radio...hardly tuning radio stations

Hi there!
My Leo's default FM radio hardly tunes a radio station when I click on the automatic search button.
However, if I go on clicking 1 by 1 (90.0, 90.1, 90.2 and so on til 108.9) I'm able to clearly listen up to 25 radio stations without any noise, so the quality is just fine.
My question: Is there a way to change a parameter in the Registry, so that the FM radio does not have so much "objections" with the receiving quality of the available radio stations?
Thanks for reading.
Cheers!
it seems not. this has been brought up several times, andthe result always ends up with the summary that yes indeed the fm radio is in fact rubbish.
there's a "de emphasis" tweak in bsbtweaks which helps slightly, but don't expect miracles.
you'll just have to set your presets manually

[Q] Development status for FM support.

Dear friends,
I had read in some threads about the existence of the BCM4329 inside the HD2, that it makes FM receiver AND TRANSMITTER options possible.
So, I was wondering about the chance of having FM transmissions possible, if things had progressed with the years (those news are from 2010, still focused on WM6.5), also thanks to the existence of very updated versions of Android, although it seems to me that nowadays an FM API is still not available to us.
Thank you.
What are you talking about? Where did you search for this? As a Google search you are Fired!
Just instal Spirit FM and you are ready to use FM Radio on your magnificent HD2. Plug the Headphones which are needed as antenna. Also the Radio will turn on Bluetooth because the chip to run FM radio is implemented into it.
Have Fun.
eclyptos said:
What are you talking about? Where did you search for this? As a Google search you are Fired!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377
The only thing that I would like to add is that one of attached file is not exactly a datasheet but a simple brochure, at least in my opinion...
clrscr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377
The only thing that I would like to add is that one of attached file is not exactly a datasheet but a simple brochure, at least in my opinion...
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What is your point? I got HTC HD2 and I use Spirit and everything working fine. Where is your problem? Maybe you have the wrong Rom installed. I know someone complain with some rom but the hardware it's the same.
BTW, what FW trasmissions for?
clrscr said:
Dear friends,
I had read in some threads about the existence of the BCM4329 inside the HD2, that it makes FM receiver AND TRANSMITTER options possible.
So, I was wondering about the chance of having FM transmissions possible, if things had progressed with the years (those news are from 2010, still focused on WM6.5), also thanks to the existence of very updated versions of Android, although it seems to me that nowadays an FM API is still not available to us.
Thank you.
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Unfortunately, there hasn't been much progress on that field (as a matter of fact, there hasn't been any progress at all). If you read the replies in that thread, they couldn't make it work. The furthest the could get is to confirm that the HD2 indeed does have the chip.
eclyptos said:
What is your point? I got HTC HD2 and I use Spirit and everything working fine. Where is your problem? Maybe you have the wrong Rom installed. I know someone complain with some rom but the hardware it's the same.
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He isn't talking about the radio receiver, he's talking about a radio transmitter. E.g. You run a special app, ask the app to transmit a song using radio. And then you can listen to that song, say, in a car using the radio. No wires/bluetooth connection needed. Simply tune in and listen. I really wished they did it.. what a pity.
Marvlesz said:
He isn't talking about the radio receiver, he's talking about a radio transmitter. E.g. You run a special app, ask the app to transmit a song using radio. And then you can listen to that song, say, in a car using the radio. No wires/bluetooth connection needed. Simply tune in and listen. I really wished they did it.. what a pity.
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Yeah, I figure out this at the end, my bad. :angel:
It will be a good option but the radio receiver will have to tune to a specific frequency and this part I think will be the issue here. In terms of words so simply but unconventional.
I think they don't do that for a national security.

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