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Don't get me wrong, i love my phone and i think that it is a seriously cool piece of technology, but we are just not getting along at the moment when it comes to texting.
I've come from a n95, where i could quite happily bash out text messages all day with very few errors, however, on my HD i can hardly type a word correctly either using the full qwerty or phone keypad. I've tried to persevere with both, but things seem to be getting worse rather than better. I'm fine when using the stylus, but when using fingers I am all over the place.
The thing that annoys me most is when i press a key and the key increases in size (as it should) but then nothing appears in the message. The space bar is the worst culprit for this, i'll be typing away and the space bar will acknowledge the press, but when i check the message something like teoitoerteritktret will be there as the space bar presses haven't been put between the words.
So please help me and my HD to remain friends and if you can suggest alternative keyboards that can be downloaded or any tips that you have I'd be more than grateful to hear about them
Spud
For myself, texting has been great on the HD and I have pretty big fingers (i'm 6"4'...and sorry for the 'standard' units). What might help is using the keyboard in landscape if you're not already doing that, that way the keys are alot bigger, especialy in qwerty mode. Also, T9 might be helpful since it corrects mistakes (like hitting the wrong key for one of the letters). As for hitting the key but not having it input it into the text, that occurs when you touch the screen where the key is (good) but before picking up the finger moving it of that key (bad). This tends to occur when you 'roll' your finger onto/off a key. Another thing which might help is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479464&highlight=finger+keyboard (there might be a v2 out already...or still in testing not sure) which is suppose to be a more finger friendly keyboard. A last option which I can give you from the top of my head is Dutty's v1.8 ROM which i believe uses a different keyboard which looks a bit more finger friendly as well.
Hope atleast some of this helps and good luck
I had a bit of difficulty typing at the beginning with the HD, I tried all the keyboards. Even in landscape (full QWERTY) although better than portrayed I found the Compact Keyboard to be the most effective way of typing. I was going to choose the default phone keypad where you have 3 letters but with compact QWERTY you have 2 keys on each key which is even better/faster/accurate (T9-wise). I typed for 2 weeks and now rarely make mistakes, sometimes I even type taking my eyes of the screen because I have memorised the distance between the keys.
I hated the keyboards and nearly wanted to throw the HD in the bin.
This is what I recommend for fast accurate texting.
Use PHONEPAD keyboard. Large keys so you can't accidentally hit the wrong key.
Turn on T9 input (not ABC)
In T9 settings, from Settings, Input, Options menu, uncheck Auto-Substitution and Word Completion in ABC mode. The other two leave checked.
In Word Completion tab, uncheck Suggest words when entering text and check box for Enable auto correct.
I found my frustration came from the words i was typing were automatically changed and substitued when i didn't want them to.
good luck!
Do you know if Cootek TouchPal works on HTC Touch HD ?
I use it on both my HTC Prophet and Diamond and I really like it.
IMHO, it's much better than the provided full and compact qwerty keyboards.
The only drawback is that it's not free software.
Just my two cents.
Cheers.
David
Thanks for the input guys, i've gone for the finger keyboard option to start with and intial impressions are that it is much better, not perfect though, but certainly better
Try getting a smaller keyboard and you will have a great time typing with the stylus.
i can type pretty fast on the phone pad method on my touch HD with t9 activated. the interface is good, much better than the one they included on the universal.
i cant type as fast as i did on my touch dual, but almost as fast now since i've had practise.
i never got the point of full qwerty onscreen, i cant stand them lol, i always use phonepad method. plus with this you can text using one hand
movig from a physical keyboard to a touchscreen is indeed a big change of habits. rather than suggesting a input method I would suggest you some behaviors that helped me a lot in the beginning:
-do not try to type when walking as it makes aiming the keys more difficult
-try to look at the actual keys not at the word written, look at the word every now and then to check for errors
-take your time, it needs concentration on the beginning a.k.a do not try to type too fast just to realize you can do it, speed comes with practice
-try all the input methods with all possible combinations to see what fits you most
-not really the thread to discuss about this, but there are some tweaks and programs available to your device that help a lot, mainly like:
touchresponse by snailslug which provides a small vibration every time you hit the screen, this helps on understanding whether you actually pressed the key
hd tweak and advanced configuration tools can increase the sensitivity of your touchscreen so that less pressure is needed to interact with it
these small tips and a lot of patience helped me a lot in the beginning, now (just after a couple months) I happily type with full qwerty on portrait only both with 2 and 1 hand (and i'm 1m90 tall so don't have exactly small fingers ... and I feel there is a lot more room for improvement
I have just upgraded to the Touch HD. My previous two phones were the TyTn and the TyTn 2 with hardware keyboards, and as you can imagine how well I'd get on with the touch screen for typing was my biggest concern.
I've played around a bit and found the transition much easier than expected, I find that using the QWERTY keyboard with the T9 dictionary turned on works best for me.
As someone else has mentioned, don't try and touch type, that will only lead to mistakes, look at the buttons as you press them and then check your text every so often to make sure it's how you think it should be.
Try Cootek's Touchpal keyboard, best I've tried so far for HD.
There are some others that you may get on with, like Resco and CM.
try fingerkeyboard, it works better for me than the stock HTC keyboard
I've always used FSK (FULL SIZE KEYBOARD) by Spb. I've used it back when I was using an Eten and 5 HTC products later, I've got it on my HD.
Because the screen is larger, it has the tiniest amount of distortion on HD but nothing that makes a big difference.
Like someone mentioned, I've gotten use to using a stylus so many times it's just as fast for me to use the little keyboard.
But then again, I've never been one of those 500 texts a minute person anyway.
HTH's,
Mark
jst first day of my HD usage...i used to have a nokia E61i (still got it) and coupled with nimbuzz i was easily using my mobile to chat to friends and family for abt 3 hours non stop easily like np... but...jst 15 mins of typing on HD and like omg i could only see one line of the conversation box ( landscape mode) and den the keyboard was lil small on te potrait mode. btw...used finger keyboard ver 2 to type...n in jst some minutes my wrist was hurting from keeping the mobile up ( e61i waws heavy as well but was no problemo to me :|) so u people got any sugessions i could try ? Else i'll have to switch to Xperia X1 cuz i would have had no choice left ....help me out plz guys...
I was using my nephew's iPod Touch the other day and the keyboard had a feature I quite liked. When you pressed a key it popped up, but above your finger, so you could actually see what key had been pressed. Are there any apps that copy this?
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I was using my nephew's iPod Touch the other day and the keyboard had a feature I quite liked. When you pressed a key it popped up, but above your finger, so you could actually see what key had been pressed. Are there any apps that copy this?
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the new HTC keyboard from the new manilla has this that feature now. I think you can get the new keyboard from the app section or the development part.
I was very used to physical keypad on Nokia phone. When I switched over to D810/Trinity, I was using Phonepad, then when TouchPal was launched, I started using it. Since then, TouchPal has been my keyboard. I am using the compact qwerty instead of Phonepad layout. TouchPal has pretty good predictive engine. If you type mostly English or those language supported by TouchPal, then it will be great. Else predictive engine may not be that helpful.
Anyway, what's helpful about TouchPal is also the swipe feature. e.g. swiping the word backward give you the past tense, upward gives you the plural, forward gives you the continuous tense, downward give you the other choices related to the word.
On the key it self, swiping left or right allow you to select the specific letter in the key : 2 letters per key, plus a number (bottom) and a symbol (top). Swiping upward gives you the capital letter, downward gives you the symbol and up and then downward give you the number. Cool, right?!
It comes with copy and paste as well as other useful symbol, preset words features.
For those who really really hate typing, check out ShapeWriter. You 'glide' from one key to another without lifting your finger. Just that the keyboard layout is not too big. The key is pretty small. I'm waiting for 'Swype' which has the same technology, but with bigger key. Sadly, it's not out yet.
hi, not sure where else to ask this but has anyone ever came across the following issue -
whenever im typing a text message the input is only ever a number, even though it shows text on the virtual buttons, this happens with every form of input with the exceptions of using the stylus and full keyboard
it seems to be locked on numbers, i thought it was the shift key but that only seems to make it go to caps but then you press a and the number 2 appears, its driving me nuts and i cant seem to find anyone else having this problem
anyone help please?
cheers
PS
also just noticed whenever you go into input method options the virtual keys change to numbers outright and you cant change it back to text (ie press abc to go back and nothing happens, the abc button is also greyed out)
thanks
stub20000 said:
hi, not sure where else to ask this but has anyone ever came across the following issue -
whenever im typing a text message the input is only ever a number, even though it shows text on the virtual buttons, this happens with every form of input with the exceptions of using the stylus and full keyboard
it seems to be locked on numbers, i thought it was the shift key but that only seems to make it go to caps but then you press a and the number 2 appears, its driving me nuts and i cant seem to find anyone else having this problem
anyone help please?
cheers
PS
also just noticed whenever you go into input method options the virtual keys change to numbers outright and you cant change it back to text (ie press abc to go back and nothing happens, the abc button is also greyed out)
thanks
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Had a similar problem and using HD Tweak disable T9 Mode for keyboard.
Both HD Tweak & Advanced Config have other very useful tweaks which I recommend. Both attached for your information
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Had a similar problem and using HD Tweak disable T9 Mode for keyboard.
Both HD Tweak & Advanced Config have other very useful tweaks which I recommend. Both attached for your information
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hi, i have hd tweak, t9 was disabled, i enabled it, tried typing a message again, there was no input this time, the keys were showing but whenever i pressed them nothing happened, its as if text is completely disabled, i switched off t9 (in hd tweak) and tried it again, once again there were only numbers appearing
help!!
UPDATE
The only modes that DONT work are the phone keypad and compact qwerty, the other modes seem to work ok, unfortunately its the phone keypad i want to use!
As I've also suggested to you elsewhere, try uninstalling HD Tweak entirely - it seems to be the root of these sorts of problems.
I had the same issue. I unistalled HD Tweak and "hey presto!" had myself a working keypad. I suggest you try that same. Cheers.
Hi all,
again, i dont like starting new threads, but I havent found anything about this keyboard bug im experiencing
I'm on 1.48.405.2 (71294)
So i'm SMS-ing with XT9 on and word completion:
If im typing away and end something with a QUESTION, like
"What are you doing today?"
I normally click the "12#" to change to symbol to select the question mark "?"
BUT i noticed EVERY SINGLE TIME when there is a WORD COMPLETION SUGGESTION hovering over the word and you CLICK "12#", the cursor will POP UP to the line ABOVE! (if i've gone past 1 line of text)
A word completion suggestion popup must be there before clicking "12#" for the cursor to pop up. But this is pretty basic for anyone typing a question.
this is SO annoying when i'm trynig to type fast and add a "?", cause then the cursor keeps popping up and screwing up my message...
Also another bug i noticed is when I receive a SMS, and in HTC Message i click on the message to go to Windows messaging..
Sometimes when i start to type (and it clearly says its oN XT9), no word completion pops up!
It's very intermittent, but the XT9 will be selected but just not work...
Anyone else experiecne this?
And better yet, does ANYONE HAVE A SOLUTION/REGISTRY TWEAK?
That cursor popping up when wanting to type a symbol is super annoying...
I installed the Less sensitivity cab but im not sure if that caused this?
Why don't you just hold down the 'k' key till the question mark pops up?
I'm facing the second problem of yours too. Sometimes the T9 is 'on' but it is not functioning. This is really annoying. I have to close the message go to home screen and come back into the message again to get it working.
I've been getting the Xt9 thing too at random times. Although I never goto the other symbols keyboard to do the '?'.
thanks for the replies guys
least i know im not the only one
yeah..i COULD hold the "k" to get the "?" ...i guess i can do that from now on.
But i find the 2 clicks is faster than holding the K...maybe its just me
Anyways, hopefully HTC is aware of this so they fix this..
The keyboard is used all the time so this is a pretty annoying thing to see
has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
My keyboard annoyances are accidentally turning off XT9 modemany times when trying to press the A key. Why did they have to put the XT9/ABC key right under the A key?
Also I get the XT9 turning off bug too from time to time even though it is turned on.
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has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
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I get this problem sometimes. Its bloody annoying!
I usually go to menu>quick text then press back and usually that sorts it.
Hope they find a permanent fix to stop it happening though!!
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has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
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Yeah i get that one too. It's really REALLY annoying...
I am experiencing both of these issues too, very annoying!
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has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
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I have the same problem sometimes. I uses the Phonepad and sometimes it will only type numbers.
I have talked to HTC (danish) and they will try to look at it.
Sometimes the XT9 doesnt show words at all. Ive got those two problems
Its a joke man i can believe theres so much issue with there sms functions
- im a Texter and this isnt good - please keep me updated as whatever they send you im going to forward to HTC uk!
These faults need to be bombarded over to HTC for a imminent fix !
WHAT HAPPENED TO THERE TESTER ????
I have reported this to HTC support, but didn't hear anything back, in fact I didn't get an auto-responder either so I hope they got my email.
i have same problem .....
when a message comes i reply key pad types ok
but when again message come i reply key pad starts typing digits
problem is with phone pad and compact qwery pad ......
i have mailed HTc via support
but have not got a response yet .?
I also experience that sometimes the XT9 doesnt work even though it is marked as "on". Also, Im not able to add new words to T9.
Any news about the problem. Any solutions???
Hopefully this hasn't been noted already. I use the stock messaging widget and click on it to quick-view my new texts, then hit reply to enter the "quick-text" which pre-fills in the recipient.
The problem I'm having is that when I use Swype as the input method in this box, it seems to lag and sometimes puts spaces in the wrong places, or punctuation before a word (as opposed to after). It appears that what's happening is that I'll 'swype' a word, it will bring up the selection list, and I'll hit a period. Normally this would insert the first-selected word and then a period, but in the quick-text, it appears to enter the period before auto-selecting the word from the list. This also happens where it will type the first letter of a word, put a space, then the rest of the word combined with the following word. For example "how a reyou" shows up often. The overall response time of using Swype as input for this seems slow and laggy.
I'm just curious if anyone else has encountered this or if there's a fix.
I think I've seen a screenshot of someone's phone trying to type in Skype in the stock Moto messaging widget and having a ton of gibberish in the input box, so I don't think it's just your phone.
I guess I'm kinda glad about that. Hopefully they fix it. I've just been trying to avoid using it, but it's so convenient.
When I first started using swype I was having all kinds of spaces and lag. Now that I'm running launcher pro everything is running smooth and I haven't had any lag problems. I also messed with some of the settings for swype.
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Hi,
I love swype, however I have one major problem when using it with a chat program like Gtalk.
As you know when you put it in a landscape mode, you can't use the on-screen keyboard and see the screen at the same time. Problem is that you can't see their messages when you are typing, and you have to keep flipping back and worth.
I wonder if there is a app or a feature in built already which gives a single line input box, rather taking the whole top screen. That way you can see what the other person is seeing.
Cheers
Pritish