Ok guys i've been watching youtube videos for the HTC touch Diamond and the interface for that phone looks MUCH more promising than the interface of my HTC touch cruise... don't get me wrong I love my phone but for 720 bucks I think I could have gotten something more worth while..... Do you guys think it's possible to use the HTC Touch Diamond interface on the touch cruise??
I suggest you look at the current "Diamond" ROMS that are available that have been ported for the Polaris in this forum. obviously the HTC Diamond does have a faster Graphics chipset so you cannot compare speed tests.
The Diamond roms are, imo, not the Diamond interface which the topicstarter looks for. It just has an Diamond skin on WM6.1.
if anyone has an original Diamond ROM ported for the Polaris, i would certainly donate to that guy/woman....
What desiroxta is probably looking for is the tflo 3d... is not the only one wanting it. So far there is only the vga version. Polaris is qvga. So we will have to wait.
Not just wait for the qVGA resources but graphics acceleration as well as it relies on it. There are Manila (its codename) builds around, even qVGA ones and I think I'm safe to say, they dont work. 0.5-2fps isnt exactly what I'd describe as "working" in my vocabulary.
Toxic17 said:
I suggest you look at the current "Diamond" ROMS that are available that have been ported for the Polaris in this forum. obviously the HTC Diamond does have a faster Graphics chipset so you cannot compare speed tests.
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u mean the UDK diamond rom ? tat rom interface like DIAMOND ?
qz0123 said:
u mean the UDK diamond rom ? tat rom interface like DIAMOND ?
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nope, thats what ppl try to tell you..
some applications can be used, but interface, as you describe it, is not working.
its the main OS from MS that is ported, not the diamond interface
i wonder if that would work, i mean both devices have graphic cards, same screen resolution and are made by the same folks. What do you think, do you think it can be done. Post your thoughts
I think the possiblities are pretty high.
I know if I were to get the phone that would be one of the things I would be interested in doing just because of the fact that the panels interface would have to grow up me so I would go with what I knew. Or if I wasn't to fond of the panels interface I would be trying to figure out how to use the touch HD interface.
The only thing that sucks bout the Touch HD ROM is that there won't be a US verison of the X1 and for a lot of US users it would probably be a lot of work put in to get the rom to work correctly on the X1
Keland44 said:
I think the possiblities are pretty high.
I know if I were to get the phone that would be one of the things I would be interested in doing just because of the fact that the panels interface would have to grow up me so I would go with what I knew. Or if I wasn't to fond of the panels interface I would be trying to figure out how to use the touch HD interface.
The only thing that sucks bout the Touch HD ROM is that there won't be a US verison of the X1 and for a lot of US users it would probably be a lot of work put in to get the rom to work correctly on the X1
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There wont be a US-spec Touch HD....
Either way the ability to change this to an X1 would be exactly the same as people have done porting TF3D and Manila2d. The Touch HD still uses TF3D likely with just higher resolution icons and such. Shouldn't be any different otherwise. Also, TF3d if I am correct is just a UI plugin for the Today screen on Windows Mobile. Which is basically the same thing as one of the X1 panels. I wouldn't be surprised if someone created a panel for the X1 that was very similar to TF3d, the possibility is there, just need someone to code it or attempt to port etc.
I agree and I think that it would be probably easier to build one based on the touch pro rom
Hi,
I've been using Jack V3.x medium for the past few weeks. The ROM has been brilliant apart from a few issues with TF3D lag (although i gather that this is a universal TF3D problem) and overall i am quite happy with it.
Jack V3.x is not based on WM6.5 however, unlike some other ROM's that have been popping up in the ROM development forum. From what i've been reading WM6.5 is only an incremental upgrade to 6.1 and so i am left wondering: Is it worthwhile to upgrade to WM6.5 now, bugs and all, or to wait for a few months before upgrading so all the bugs get wrinkled out? Also, what WM6.5 ROM would people recommend upgrading to?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. The factors that would make me want to upgrade are things like improved functionality, faster speed, clearer UI, etc.
Well I am using gtrabs ROM and so far I am really liking it. It is pretty fast, no bugs or crashes, and the interface is clean. I have kinda got a bit tired of TouchFlo3D so I wanted something different. I would say give it a go....
itje's 6.5 RC1 is what I'm on, if you disable threaded messaging it works probably better than official 6.1 roms did for me. Its faster, scrolling is much much better, looks nicer, and has titanium which i really get on with.
yes .
definitely worth it.
Interface upgrades, ram usage isn't up that much, it's a lot smoother.
using gtrab's rom right now, it's so quick when browsing windows in file explorer.
battery life has somewhat improved, strangely enough.
I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1. While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined. I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
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I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1 . While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined . I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
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You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
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Just my 2 cents, MHO of course
Definately a YES. All I need to do now is to choose one. LOL. I am new to this as well, so a bit worried in losing my waranty if anything happens.
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You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
TITANIUM is a Ferrari, tOUCH! Flo is a school bus: big, heavy and slooooow...
Just my 2 cents, MHO of course
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
Comparisons are always subjective. I quite like the clean interface of Titanium and got bored of TouchFlo. I may get bored of Titanium and go to SPB Mobile Shell etc.
One thing you need to remember is that WinMo 6.5 (and the R3A ROM) are still in Beta so some may get bugs and some may not. FTR I am using gtrabs ROM and so far it is very good and I think it will be a keeper for me until the proper version comes out (i.e. no beta).
Apart from having to reload your programs there is no harm in giving it a try - if you don't like it you can go back to a 6.1....
Yes, I think you must try Gtrab's WM6.5 ROM...It plays with speed. I've tested another 4 WM6.5 ROMs, and finally i go back to Gtrab's one and said Wow! for his Rom.
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
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I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
Thanks for all of your replies.. i'll put on WM6.5 to test out now. I like your confidence gtrab, so i'll be puting on your barebone version first .
Oh, and regarding your questions in your last post: I am a fan of TF3D only because it adds a lot of usability that the default WinMo 6.1 lacks on its own. It also looks good and gives me all the information i need in an easy-to-access manner. If there was an alternative that maybe wasn't as good looking but had functionality and more importantly was fast and hopefully free then i'd be happy to move over to it (The PointUI panel was brilliant, but the lack of a large-font clock was a downer).
And as for why i bought an Xperia.. Well, mainly because i accidentally dunked my last phone in a cup of scalding hot tea . When looking around for new phones i liked what i saw in the Xperia reviews and so here i am. The phone itself is brilliant, apart from its default OS and panels. In theory they sounded great but in practice i didnt like the associated lag (on vanilla OS, at least) with it when switching from one panel to another. Still, it may be time to try them out again.
Ok, i'm off to flash a rom or two .
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2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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Because w/ X1, we have a choice to pick panel and/or TF3D. Not the other way around since no others devices are able to run Panel stable.
OKOK, I admitted I would have a hard time to pick X1 or HD if HD fully support USA's 3G. ;p
gtrab said:
I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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In the end, yes, you need to use what suits you.
1) Why upgrade to 6.5? Well, how would I know I preferred TF3D if I didn't try 6.5? And why not try something new? - it could be better, and I will keep trying new things, as the current TF3D will not be the best forever!
2) The Xperia runs TF3D perfectly well, and I knew this, so this did not put me off buying the Xperia. Also, hardware comes into it - the Xperia was my only real option, as nothing else (that's worth having) has WVGA screen and hardware keyboard.
While a lot of this is subjective, not all of it is. For example, the amount of useful space for an applet on TF3D compared to Titanium:
You can do much more with this space, e.g. calendar & music player.
If I had more time I'm sure I could show some of the objective advantages to TF3D, but I don't, he he! But I guess, even if one is actually better and more efficient, if you prefer the other one, then that's the one for you to use
And regarding the media panel, when I tried it, it seemed great, but when I changed back to default panel the music stopped - is this normal? I'd use it if I was able to run the music in the background while browsing the web & doing texts!
It's great we get such a choice on these phones, thanks to XDA dev!
Please check this images and video from new Manilla for HTC Firestone
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321
Wow this is super!
Want it! On my diamond 1
I second this, want!
third that!
I will fourth that
But it looks pretty slow on that touch HD, so i think at the diamond it will be even worse?
Very useful!
Read that it's far from stable atm. I think that WVGA devices are the first to show Manila V2.5 before you'll see it on VGA devices like the Diamond.
I want it too!
Time to resize some of that
I hope HTC remembers us with vga displays.
I definitly like the looks of it.
wow! it's so nice. does exist somewhere?
this is ugly as hell. they placed 300 things in the manilla, and now it is getting complicating.
buttons and options all over the place!
I thought they stoped tf3d programming cause of sense....next generation of wm phones should use htc sense and not longer tf3d
I could hardly see WinMo which I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing. Anyways, seeing this made me want to buy the diamond2 more.
any news about 2.5?
Hello Guys... Please, can someone make a ROM with an old version of TOUCH FLO 3D... i like it more then sense, and it is faster, than sense. thanks a lot
hardmusicfun said:
Hello Guys... Please, can someone make a ROM with an old version of TOUCH FLO 3D... i like it more then sense, and it is faster, than sense. thanks a lot
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100% agree that would be nice !!
It is greath things.I wait for this rom
I think this was only for QVGA devices?
HTC Rhodium wvga and have touch flo
it would be faster yes , but it would be still buggy and need patches all the time , like non all htc phones with htc ui cuz of the missing htc album , browser etc ... go check some other phones touchflo rom thread , its the same complaint/bugfest we have in our sense thread
you have right,but touchflo wos bin better and fasted than sense