Hay guys do you know if PDANET 2.0 on the HTC MOGUL will work with the Proxy Mode feature so that voice and data can be used AT THE SAME TIME???
I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that the Mogul physically can't do voice + data.
The phone would have to maintain a simultanious 1X connection for voice and SMS traffic and a seperate EVDO connection to the tower for DATA traffic. I don't think the Radio in the Mogul supports holding dual simultanious connections.
That is something that isn't fixable by a proxy patch... If it is a thing to be worked around it would probably need at least a radio hack or similar.
If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll be quickly corrected.
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Has anybody been able to get this to work?
If so, was it a Bluetooth or USB tether?
I haven't done it tethered yet (even though I use USB tethering), but I have been on a call with a bluetooth headset while surfing the web through UMTS/HSDPA without any issues.
There's definitely no problem using simultaneous UMTS voice/data connections on the device, I've been unable to secure either a Bluetooth-tethered or USB-tethered data connection on the desktop and a phone call on the device simultaneously...
If I try to make the call, it breaks the tethered data connection.
Maybe there's a way around this?
I can tell you from experience (or rather, experiment) that it does work. I tethered my desktop to my TyTN (cingular) to see if Counter-Strike would actually work on it (I tried all my previous phones to no avail) and I was surprised to find out that it worked! I had a ping of 100ms on average and the game was totally playable, no skipping or spikes. I then made a phone call to a friend to see if it would hold the connection and it did. However my ping jumped to 150ms and there was some mild skipping, but still playable.
BTW I am in Chicago, IL if that makes a difference to you. I know 3G speeds seam to vary from place to place.
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Anyway possible to use the Titan as a dialup modem either through bluetooth or the wire connected to the PC? What I mean is to be able to use it to dial into a dialup provider with a user ID/pw..
If so, how?
240sxer said:
Anyway possible to use the Titan as a dialup modem either through bluetooth or the wire connected to the PC? What I mean is to be able to use it to dial into a dialup provider with a user ID/pw..
If so, how?
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I'm assuming you want to do this instead of using it's internet sharing capabilities?
Thats what I'm confused about. My Internet Sharing says "USB" or "Bluetooth". Do you just chose the way you want to connect to the PC and somehow dialup from there?
Thats what I'm confused about (as per my other thread)
240sxer said:
Thats what I'm confused about. My Internet Sharing says "USB" or "Bluetooth". Do you just chose the way you want to connect to the PC and somehow dialup from there?
Thats what I'm confused about (as per my other thread)
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It's technically not Dial-Up connection. Your cell uses EVDO for internet. If you have a data package on your bill... then you are good to go. You then have a choice of connecting your cell to the PC via the USB cable... or via a Bluetooth connection.
Edit: Also... do some reading on a program called WMWifiRouter. It allows you to use your phone as a Wireless (Ethernet) router.
Ok, so you can't actually "dial up" into a dialup server? You'll ve using the EVDO connection?
Yes I have unlimited data.
I read about WMWifiRouter. I thought the latest version doesnt work with DCD 2.3?
240sxer said:
Ok, so you can't actually "dial up" into a dialup server? You'll ve using the EVDO connection?
Yes I have unlimited data.
I read about WMWifiRouter. I thought the latest version doesnt work with DCD 2.3?
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I don't know if you can use it as a "Dial Up" for things such as AOL. But, since you have an unlimited Data plan... just use it's EVDO connection. USB cable to it... and turn on ICS.
I personally haven't tried WMWifiRouter. I'm on DCD 3.2.5
240sxer said:
Ok, so you can't actually "dial up" into a dialup server? You'll ve using the EVDO connection?
Yes I have unlimited data.
I read about WMWifiRouter. I thought the latest version doesnt work with DCD 2.3?
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yea you can connect to a dialup server. to my knowledge you can, you just need to have a data plan. you need to setup the dialup connection on your titan. go to settings -> connections -> connections. in here you tap 'add a new modem connection' and then enter in the connection data. you can then later get to the connection by taping on the 'manage existing connections' link. in there if you bring up the context menu to tell your titan to dial the connection. i think theres a way to get to use the dialup connection as your default connection but i dont remember where that setting is
in all honesty youll be better off using EVDO, its faster than dialup (even 1x is faster)
but what billyburly said should work if you need to dial into a VPN or something
defaultdotxbe said:
in all honesty youll be better off using EVDO, its faster than dialup (even 1x is faster)
but what billyburly said should work if you need to dial into a VPN or something
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I figured there may be a way... since it is a mini PC... but don't see the point if you just want internet and have the data plan. LOL
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yea you can connect to a dialup server. to my knowledge you can, you just need to have a data plan. you need to setup the dialup connection on your titan. go to settings -> connections -> connections. in here you tap 'add a new modem connection' and then enter in the connection data. you can then later get to the connection by taping on the 'manage existing connections' link. in there if you bring up the context menu to tell your titan to dial the connection. i think theres a way to get to use the dialup connection as your default connection but i dont remember where that setting is
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When a few of us tried this before, it didn't work. I don't believe there is any dialup modem support in the phone. But the only reason to even try is to get around data fees, and if you have a data package, there wouldn't be many reasons to even want to do this.
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When a few of us tried this before, it didn't work. I don't believe there is any dialup modem support in the phone. But the only reason to even try is to get around data fees, and if you have a data package, there wouldn't be many reasons to even want to do this.
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well, i wasnt sure if it worked. i knew there was a way to tell the phone to dial different numbers for data. i couldnt really verify that it worked. on verizon when you try this and do not have a data plan (like me) they just capture your call and redirect it to evdo data. so i knew you could change the number, but if you didnt have a data plan verizon hijacked it. when i talked to different verizon techs i was told that id need a data plan for it to work. so i assumed that since he had a data plan it would work.
guess this just doesnt work accross the board
Well my data package is through Telus and Telus doesn't want people tethering, which is why I want a work around. You're allowed browsing but not tethering.
From everything I have read, this is not a "standard analog" modem, it's a special digital modem (think of it as a DSL modem), it can connect to a connection if it uses the same kind of hardware on the far end as what #777 uses. So figure out what kind of dialup server they use, and you could build your own dialup connection, however, since you are dialing a different number, while not using data, it does use minutes. Which in most cases cost more than data does.
If you flash your phone, I believe it removes any tools they use to tell if you are tethering, so unless they monitor every connection/website you visit, they would be hard pressed to prove you didn't visit the site on your phone.
And even if they do monitor, again, they would have a hard time proving you didn't do it from the phone. Try to only use apps like email and web (never ever ever use a torrent/p2p app from a tethered PC, or you will definitely get nailed by them.) The reason being is that they will see thousands of connections to their network, and also to download a 1mb file, you will probably end up uploading 3-5 mbs, which will also stand out on your data usage.
Before taking my word as gospel, ask around, but I believe I have read that DCD removed these locks/tracking tools from his image. So therefore tethering is a little safer than before.
BTC
The latest WMwifiRouter works just fine with DCD's roms.
So the if the phone connects over wifi it drops the data connection that might've been present on your phone network connection. Is it possible to configure your phone to maintain both wifi and 3G/HSDPA connections at the same time?
I require this because my operator provided (H3G UK network) Skype application only runs on 3G and I have to keep turning off wifi for it to work.
Funny, I find this feature great!! With my WM phones I never knew if it was using wifi or my data connection....even if you can do this how do you make one app use one connection over the other?
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Good q, i'd also like to know if it's possible...
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You can try droid wall, and configure it to block wifi for skype, it may solve your issue.
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Hmm, doesn't sound like that will work, because the phone has already dropped the phone network data connection as soon as I get back home onto my home wifi network (due to prioritisation?) I want the phone to maintain both so I can receive incoming Skype calls at home with fiddling with my phone. I understand why the phone does it and it is sensible for it to do so in most cases, but just not for my usage requirements!
Is it a software/hardware limitation that wifi and phone network data connections can't be open at the same time?
Install Nimbuzz. It supports Skype without that bulls**t restriction. It doesn't support group chats though.
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So the if the phone connects over wifi it drops the data connection that might've been present on your phone network connection. Is it possible to configure your phone to maintain both wifi and 3G/HSDPA connections at the same time?
I require this because my operator provided (H3G UK network) Skype application only runs on 3G and I have to keep turning off wifi for it to work.
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if WiFi is on, and 3G is on
the phone automatically uses WiFi first
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if WiFi is on, and 3G is on
the phone automatically uses WiFi first
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I lose the "H" or "3G" notifier when the phone connects to wifi, that's why it looks like it's purposesly dropping the data connection once it picks up my wifi, I can't see a way to maintain both simultaneously.
I'm using "Skype for 3" provided by my network, it has special integration on the 3 network which allows me unlimited Skype usage (inbound and outbound) without it eating into my data plan. So with this benefit I don't really want to use an alternative app.
I want to keep Skype running all the time so I can receive calls on it, but once I get home, the wifi kills the "H"/"3G" connection, which means my Skype can't receive calls.
the icon isn't there but i think the data (H / 3G) is still running in the background, incase your Wifi fails.
wifi is the... PREFERRED network?
have you tried getting your friend to call you via skype while you're on wifi?
I was wondering if there's a way to access the internet (even if its slow) through dial up on samsung vibrant. I'm having issues with simple mobile 3g cap. I do have unlimited minutes and wanted to know if theres a way to get the internet atleast for google maps, basic search etc. This is what I want to use..
http://www.freedialup.org/site/content/view/22/27/
Simple Mobile must have completely cut you off for you to think dialup is a solution. I have T-mobile which throttles you after you reach your limit (I don't know what that limit is, I have never reached it since my life doesn't revolve around the internet).
To answer your question, no, you can't do that with your Vibrant or for that matter probably not with any modern phone. In order to connect to a dial-up ISP you need to have an analog modem, a function our Vibrants are unable to emulate.
I was able to do what you are proposing in 2001 with my Nokia 8290.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=67
There was only 1G on your phone and it was text only WAP. The Nokia 8290 (and some other phones of that era) had built-in analog modems so you could connect to your dial-up ISP or even FAX from your laptop using your phone as a faxmodem.
I was able to send faxes and surf at the speed of a snail sleepwalking because that phone only had a 14.4k modem.
You want to do Google Maps on dial-up? Nooooooooooooooooooo!
You're going to have to get a really old phone to use it to connect to a dial-up ISP.
What about reverse tethering using USB and Broadband Internet???
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What about reverse tethering using USB and Broadband Internet???
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I'm looking for the cheapest phone that works with T-Mobile 3G and can be used as a WiFi hotspot. I like my current phone, but it doesn't have a WiFi hotspot feature, so I just want something cheap where I can swap SIM cards when tethering is needed.
I have a grandfathered T-Mobile account with a $10 unlimited data plan called Web2go. Web2go doesn't work with most Android phones, so my choices are Windows Mobile and Symbian.
Do either HTC WiFi Router or WMWiFiRouter work with the T-Mobile HTC Dash 3G? I have see lots of conflicting reports. Some people say it works, some say it doesn't.
Does anyone here have any personal experience and can attest to it working or not? Is there a special trick to make it work?
...or, does anyone have any other ideas for an alternate phone? These seem to go for under $40 used on ebay, so currently it's my leading candidate.
Thanks!
Just in case anyone was following this thread -- I ended up ordering a used Dash 3G and answering my own question.
HTC Wifi Router -- Doesn't work.
WMWifiRouter -- Does work.
Not sure if it's a hardware or software limitation, but WMWiFiRouter only supports WEP encryption on the Dash 3G, but it also supports USB connection, and the connection driver installs automatically without needing to download from the internet.
WMWifiRouter was made free a couple months ago when the Windows Mobile Marketplace shutdown. I learned about this from this thread on slickdeals.net: http://slickdeals.net/f/4747668-WMWifi-Router-Free-Windows-Mobile-Hotspot-program
Their website seems to be down at the moment. They may have shut it down completely.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
I have the installer hosted on my skydrive here.
http://sdrv.ms/MPc5DL
Serial: EDFZM-HTXKJ-TJTRH-ZTRCB
This is not a unique key. This is the generic key they told you to enter when the application went free.