Hi all Universal owners
I think that a lot of us have in mind to upgrade device as me.... but then it comes the question? What could be a real Uni succesor?
We saw on the past the ultimate 7150, HTC Omni but they just vanished...
So what we have today?
I consider good idea to link this thread because I believe that this can become true:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437646
What you think guys?
Cheers,
good question, I'm also waiting for successor...
This first in yours images is i-mate, so it's not real successor.
The second image - this PDA picture is very old, and I think the project is abandoned.
Touch HD Pro (users code name) - it could be, but I prefer uni "classic" casing - like laptop. Hardware is promising.
I don't recognize the last phone.
I heard also about "Touch XD". As I've heard it is going to have better hardware than Touch HD. Here you have link: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1292
best!
something like this would be nice.
5 rows keyboard
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with tilt too
d2ey said:
something like this would be nice.
5 rows keyboard
with tilt too
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this one looks more like a Kaiser than Uni successor.
It's a win vista machine, how could you compare?
And this one?:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1566
Not swivel but at least is something
What you think?
Nokia N97
Check it out:
From Nokia World in Barcelona
Features (well it's symbian):
- quad-band GSM.
- 3.5" 360X640 widescreen TFT display.
- Full Keyboard, tilt style.
- 32GB flash installed Rom.
- microSDHC slot.
- 5MP, Zeiss lens, AF+Flash Camera.
- Front VGA camera.
- GPS with AGPS.
- Wifi B/G + BT 2.0.
- Stereo speakers + 3.5mm. Headphone jack.
- Talk time: 400 min., wait time: 430 hr., 1500 mah battery.
- Size: 15.9x55.3x117.2 mm., 150 gr.
I think it looks good, and has all the features (at least on paper ).
leffetripel said:
Check it out:
From Nokia World in Barcelona
Features (well it's symbian):
- quad-band GSM.
- 3.5" 360X640 widescreen TFT display.
- Full Keyboard, tilt style.
- 32GB flash installed Rom.
- microSDHC slot.
- 5MP, Zeiss lens, AF+Flash Camera.
- Front VGA camera.
- GPS with AGPS.
- Wifi B/G + BT 2.0.
- Stereo speakers + 3.5mm. Headphone jack.
- Talk time: 400 min., wait time: 430 hr., 1500 mah battery.
- Size: 15.9x55.3x117.2 mm., 150 gr.
I think it looks good, and has all the features (at least on paper ).
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Nice but....
Well you mentioned, no WM and no HTC build, so....
Here it is!!!!
What you think guys?
CompuLab introduces exeda
Not the right form factor, but has it all and some
This company is a player in the embedded systems market for 9 years. They decided to rebrand one of their products for consumer use. It has everything connectivity wise. and it looks vintage - like an old handheld console game. BTW 3000 mah battery on the house and a dual boot winmo and android.
From their website:
exeda is designed to serve as an enterprise digital assistant (EDA). Comprised of embedded components, the exeda has guaranteed long-term availability and can be custom configured when ordered in volume.
Software developers will appreciate exeda's special development platform. exeda offers to developers -
* Open source u-boot bootloader
* Detailed hardware and software documentation
* Full BSP's
* 10/100Base-T Ethernet port
* JTAG interface
* RS-232
* Unlocked SIM
Usability
exeda incorporates a 3.5" VGA sun-readable display with a touch screen, five row, full QWERTY keypad with backlight and a unique capacitive touchpad acting as a mouse. This makes exeda ideal for reading, browsing and data entry.
Connectivity
* A choice of wireless voice/data modem – quad band GSM/GPRS, CDMA or 3G UMTS
* 802.11g WLAN
* Bluetooth V2.0 + EDR
* 2 USB ports
* RS-232 port
CompuLab provides an extension with -
* 100Base-T Ethernet through RJ45 connector
* SDIO socket
* JTAG header
Other connectivity devices for exeda will be provided by 3rd parties.
Other features
* Marvell PXA270 520MB CPU
* 128MB RAM
* 2 banks of internal FLASH, 512MB each
* 2MP camera with flash
* GPS with built-in and external antennas
* MicroSD socket with SDHC support
* Built-in microphone and speaker + 3.5mm stereo jack
* High capacity 3000mAh battery
Extension
exeda functionality can be extended with an extension board inside the device. Extension boards may be designed by a 3rd party.
CompuLab will publish the electrical and mechanical interface and provides a reference extension board with full schematics.
Operating Systems
exeda supports Windows Mobile 6.1, Android, Windows CE 6 and Angstrom Linux.
Other operating systems may be supported in the future.
Dimensions
4.9” x 3.7” x 0.6” (126 mm x 96 mm x 16 mm)
Availability
exeda will be available for purchase in March '09. Pricing will be published upon availability. CompuLab is demonstrating the exeda at the CES trade-show in Las Vegas - 8-11 January '09 in booth North 403.
Design is so ugly...
And is not HTC...
I´ll wait for the HTC Rhodium!!
Cheers,
Dude, that looks sweet! Not really the same formfactor, but its got oodles and oodles of connections. That's pretty much a pocketable computer that you dock and hook up a kybd and mouse to.
orb3000 said:
Design is so ugly...
And is not HTC...
I´ll wait for the HTC Rhodium!!
Cheers,
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It is so ugly... that it has a beauty of its own.
it is not HTC, but it has an open source bootloader and a open spec + development documents, multi OS support. though not my field, this device seems to be a developer heaven.
I like it for a couple of reasons, it has all the features i like and it is designed by an Israeli company based in the Technion IIT. which I'm proud to be a student of, for 7 years now .
Shame is not HTC device, so it won´t fit on this site
Anyway it has good specs. And good to know is designed by someone from your country!
Cheers,
Succesor?
Guys,
What you think of this Tosh k01
Could be a succesor?
what about: HTC Touch Pro
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/touchpro/overview.html
I'm thinking the touch pro 2 might be a successor, since it has a ginourmous screen, and a spacious 5 line keyboard
Simon_WM said:
what about: HTC Touch Pro
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/touchpro/overview.html
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Never in a million years!!
AllanonMage said:
I'm thinking the touch pro 2 might be a successor, since it has a ginourmous screen, and a spacious 5 line keyboard
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I tought the same and went for a Rhodium
I must say I´m impressse dand quite happy with it, but still missing the big Uni keyboard and the pivoting screen...
Other than that it´s ok
but I wouldn´t call a real succesor...
Possible Universal Succesor
Hey Guys,
Let me know what you think? This Toshiba K02 could replace our Universal. Here is the link http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1856&c=toshiba_dynapocket_k02
http://pdadb.net/imageview.php?file=toshiba_k02_2.jpg
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/691/
orb3000 said:
Guys,
What you think of this Tosh k01
Could be a successor?
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I prefer K01 as it has a real keyboard so more as a Universal succesor)
K02 is too big...
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Sony today announced the new Ultra Mobile PC VAIO VGN-UX50! The computer runs on Intel Core Solo Ultra Low Voltage 1.0GHz CPU and Windows XP operating system. It features 4.5-inch wide SVGA screen with XBRITE technology for enhance image clarity. Weighing only 520 grams and measuring 150mm x 95mm x 32mm, this little PC can go with you anywhere.
You also get a stylus, WWAN (Wide Area Network), Wireless LAN, and Bluetooth. The UX model has two built-in cameras - one in fron for VoIP or conferencing and another on the back to take photos. For security and if you don't want to remember passwords, it comes equipped with a biometric fingerprint sensor.
Even better, Sony will offer an optional Bluetooth GPS (VGP-BGU1) so you can get directions anywhere you go!
source: http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=890
I think Sony already have a similiar product in the market, slightly bigger.
Anyway, I wonder how practicle is this thing. I mean, it is rather big to have it as a pda/handphone, and rather small screen to be used as a laptop.
Even if you consider the case you don't mind a bulky PDA, rather difficult to have things to be useful on the small screen (e.g. running winXp). Does it have extra software that will do a PDA job on that small screen (e.g. big enough fonts for you to display on the small screen)? Or you will have to change the screen resolution from time to time (e.g. when you reach your office and plug it into your PC).
When will they come out with a foldable screen
hanmin said:
When will they come out with a foldable screen
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Well, they have rollable screens already. I like the idea of being able to pull a large screen out of the side of a slimmer but just as tall Universal XX.
Anyone remember the com units used by the agents in the tv show Earth: Final Conflict? Pull out touch screens, nice. 8)
Cheers
Nasdaq
Its nice to see Sony offering a true micro PC. The 'Origami' pcs were some what dissapointing, as they are basically just portable media and email devices. This however is a genuine micro pc, you could literally do a tonne of work of any kind on it.
Very impressive, coming from SOny it wont be cheap but hey, very cool device to have.
here is a small comparison:
285 g vs
520 g
127 x 81 x 25 mm vs
150 x 95 x 32 mm
640x480 vs
1024x600
Windows Mobile vs
Windows XP
520MHz vs
1GHz
the exec is much better then this sony rubbish as:
1. Its lighter
2. The battery lasts much longer (the sony will last 1-2 hours max)
3. The sony has no GSM/GPRS or 3G ... jeez
4. The sony is much bigger
5. The sony has a horrible aerial poking out the top
6. The sony is much heavier
7. The sony has a memory stick socket - yuck, betamax all over again
If I need a laptop I'll take my tiny Compaq with 1gb mem, 1280x768 screen, 80gb harddisk and 64bit amd chip.
For small devices I'll take my change with WM5.1 and WM6. XP was designed for beefy big screen PCs. It don't work on these things ...
colonel said:
...3. The sony has no GSM/GPRS or 3G ... jeez...
7. The sony has a memory stick socket - yuck, betamax all over again...
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The US version comes w/ Cingular Wireless Broadband.
It also has a 30gb hard drive which to my knowledge is a bit more than the available memory on the universal
$1800 at Sony Style
When it comes with GPRS and 3G, and I can get it subsidised woth T-Mobile, then I'll buy it.
Otherwise it's like my exwife. Cute, but far too expensive.
The only thing I don't like is the use of Memory Stcks, very expensive memory cards. I hate them.
belfast-biker said:
Otherwise it's like my exwife. Cute, but far too expensive.
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Something in this forum that finally makes sense...!
belfast-biker said:
When it comes with GPRS and 3G, and I can get it subsidised woth T-Mobile, then I'll buy it.
Otherwise it's like my exwife. Cute, but far too expensive.
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LOL
Well according to a blogger who had a hands on; the keyboard is crap.
colonel said:
the exec is much better then this sony rubbish as:
1. Its lighter
2. The battery lasts much longer (the sony will last 1-2 hours max)
3. The sony has no GSM/GPRS or 3G ... jeez
4. The sony is much bigger
5. The sony has a horrible aerial poking out the top
6. The sony is much heavier
7. The sony has a memory stick socket - yuck, betamax all over again
If I need a laptop I'll take my tiny Compaq with 1gb mem, 1280x768 screen, 80gb harddisk and 64bit amd chip.
For small devices I'll take my change with WM5.1 and WM6. XP was designed for beefy big screen PCs. It don't work on these things ...
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I guess you never used one before. I have the U70, the last model. Normal battery 4-5hours and the extended battery 8-9hours. Thats with Wifi on the whole time. You can do 100 more things with XP then WM5. It also has a SD and MS slot. 30gig HDD.
Shame you wont try it.
zakeen said:
I guess you never used one before. I have the U70, the last model. Normal battery 4-5hours and the extended battery 8-9hours. Thats with Wifi on the whole time. You can do 100 more things with XP then WM5. It also has a SD and MS slot. 30gig HDD.
Shame you wont try it.
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I'm somewhat sceptical. The Universal fits in my pocket - just. Anything bigger wouldn't be usable - and amongst my friends I'm the most easy going about device size, no one else will carry anything close to as big.
Irrespective of its capabilities its no good to me sitting on the shelf when I'm out and about.
So, for me at least, when it comes to trading off capability against 'pocketability' the latter wins every time... YMMV
some more links:
Sony Vaio UX50 resuming from standby in six seconds - Google Video
Hands on with the UX50
hi Zakeen,
That battery life you mention does sound much better. I have had a few sony laptops over the years and they always faired much worse then other ones.
I am following the new Ulitra Micro laptop generation with interest. The Samsung Q1 and Toshiba libretto look more interesting to me as the Toshiba has a better spec. and is cheaper, and roughly the same size, whereas the Samsung is smaller. I think the 2nd generation of these devices will be better. I am prepared to spend around $1000 on a 1Mhz Pentium clone around the size of the Samsung Q1. The Libretto and UX180 are just too expensive.
I was also disappointed that Apple hasn't brought out a tiny laptop. The new macbook is very cheap at $1099 with a core duo cpu, but is actually bigger then the previous G4 macbook.
I have a feeling it'll take another year for these devices to mature. However then the Universal II (or whatever) will be out and again we will have to see whether a micro-laptop is actually worth it!
Using Universal as micro notebook is an excercise in how much compromises you can make/take.
- Lack of built in storage
- No USB Host
- No VGA out
- Poor or no office compatibility (even Text and Page maker are a pain, Power Point and Project editing is even more of a strech and there is no Visio at all.
- Browsing capabilities and compatibility
- Even Mail clients are rather poor
... ant the list goes on ...
I'm sure Sony users will also have to make many compromises, but I'm also pretty sure not even close to Universal's users. If only it would not be so expensive...
Hi,
My Qtek 9000 is definitly starting to show its age, and although I have an iphone for normal phone calls etc. I find myself needing another mobile which is as functional as the Universal, ie. a machine which is a PDA and a mobile. (the iphone is more an ipod with a mobile)
Now I was thinking of the Kaiser, but I find 3 things which in fact put me off. Processor on the Kaiser is slower then my Universal. Graphic resolution is still QVGA and it seems that over and above that it suffers with slow graphic performance due to missing gfx drivers.
So finally, is there any worthy substitute for my fantastic Universal?
Please advise.
valeru said:
Hi,
My Qtek 9000 is definitly starting to show its age, and although I have an iphone for normal phone calls etc. I find myself needing another mobile which is as functional as the Universal, ie. a machine which is a PDA and a mobile. (the iphone is more an ipod with a mobile)
Now I was thinking of the Kaiser, but I find 3 things which in fact put me off. Processor on the Kaiser is slower then my Universal. Graphic resolution is still QVGA and it seems that over and above that it suffers with slow graphic performance due to missing gfx drivers.
So finally, is there any worthy substitute for my fantastic Universal?
Please advise.
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Hi,
If you don't want to use your new pda as a mobile phone, you can check the new HP iPAQ 214.
It is fast, it has a brilliant 4" large screen...but no QWERTY. But I think, only this PDA has from the newer ones VGA screen.
Here is a list, from the PDAs that have VGA screen:
# Acer n300
# Acer n310
# Acer n311
# Asus MyPal A730
# Asus MyPal A730w
# Casio IT-10 M20
# Casio IT-10 M20 BR
# Dell Axim X50v
# Dell Axim X51v
# E-TEN Glofiish X800
# Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket LOOX 718
# Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket LOOX 720
# Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket LOOX N560
# Hewlett-Packard iPAQ hx4700
# HTC Universal
# MDA PRO
# Medion MDPEA 1000
# Qtek 9000
# Sharp W-ZERO3
# Sharp WS004SH
# Sharp WS007SH
# Toshiba e800 BT
# Toshiba e800 WiFi
I hope, that helps you.
DOMy
I've been looking around alot. Other than the W-ZERO 3, which didn't get the best reviews (it's beautiful, though), I don't believe there is anything to replace the Universal. There were a couple of claims (HTC and Omni) that they would come out with something, but nothing yet, nor really soon.
You can get one of the following:
- 3.5" - 4" screen
- OR -
- Keyboard (a bit smaller than the Univ.)
All the units with keyboards are phones as well, and have 2.8" (or less) screens.
The new Sony will have a 3" screen, but it is just a stretched 2.8" screen in "wide" mode.
I'm over 45, size does matter. That's why I finally just bought a Universal.
- OR -
eBay - there are still new units available - $375-$450
- Girt
I bought a Kaiser as a Universal replacement last year, and the benefits make up for the deficits.
Kaiser advantages
128 MB RAM
256 MB ROM (both these are very nice, and makes for a more stable device. Forget about worrying about how many apps are running anymore)
Built-in GPS (works pretty well)
HSDPA (much faster than UMTS, fast enough to stream video)
bluetooth 2 with EDR (This means when you tether with the Kaiser you are not limited by the slow data rate of bluetooth 1.2)
smaller size, more pocketable, more socially acceptable
The disadvantages is the poorer keyboard and smaller, QVGA screen. The keyboard is not too bad however, and I get a pretty good rate of typing on it.
I think the Kaiser's biggest deficit is the QVGA screen, not for regular use or even PIE usage, but due to the better browsers coming out now, such as Opera Mobile 9.5. This means a Kaiser is going to age pretty fast in the next few months, when VGA or better screens will be all over the place.
In short, the Kaiser measures up very well to the Universal, but is not worth a 12 month contract at the moment.
The SE Xperia is where it will be at in 6-9 months. Its a long time to wait, but its the only real replacement on the horizon.
Surur
domi007 said:
Hi,
If you don't want to use your new pda as a mobile phone, you can check the new HP iPAQ 214.
It is fast, it has a brilliant 4" large screen...but no QWERTY. But I think, only this PDA has from the newer ones VGA screen.
Here is a list, from the PDAs that have VGA screen:
I hope, that helps you.
DOMy
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The list isn't worth diddly squat if you can't make a phone call on it.
Psi
I dream of this phone.. http://aving.net/usa/news/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=77749&C_Code=01&SP_Num=0
But it's an IP phone.. And i live in Italy.. So.. I can't buy such a wonder!
DJ Palmis said:
I dream of this phone.. http://aving.net/usa/news/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=77749&C_Code=01&SP_Num=0
But it's an IP phone.. And i live in Italy.. So.. I can't buy such a wonder!
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wile this seems to be a nice phone, i think typing with your thumb's is going to be hard on a sunken keyboard. size wise id say as were used to the uni it's not a problem. it dose have usb host(witch is nice). slightly slower processer but seam every bit as funcuanal.
if i had to rate it based on the pick's alone id give it a maybe.
killianv2 said:
if i had to rate it based on the pick's alone id give it a maybe.
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Yes, i agree.
But i appreciate the effort to INNOVATE the market!
In the last year i see a lot of PDA, mobile.. That are.. SO tedious!
And BTW it's not a simple PDA.. It's a strange ibrid.
But i need a 3G phone... 'cos i need internet on the go.
I'd say wait for the Sony Ericsson Xperia 1. That thing is like an orgasm in a box for us PDA Mobile addicts. It looks like the most worthy WiMo PDA Phone to come around, assuming Ericsson can get its act together. But it's droolworthy from the pics and the specs. It's got a QWERTY keyboard and an 800x480 widescreen, running WiMo6.
What more can you ask for?!
Mochan said:
What more can you ask for?!
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For example: A clamshell PDA!
I don't want to scratch the screen wile it's in my pocket..
I really can't understand people who buy PDA in the classic shape..
And anyway: i don't like Sony's mobile.. They have always a features that i miss.. To make you buy another phone a the next release.
I had a P900...
I don't really see any REPLACEMENT for Universal jet. I bought the kaiser but after 1 week I give it to my wife. I really miss devices that has min 3.5" screen.
Anyhow you may have look also for upcoming ASUS M930 and Toshiba G920.
My opinion the asus M930 could have been the perfect device(form factor) if it had larger inner screen.
Toshiba Portégé G910? More RAM, GPS, WVGA display? It should be out by this time... (announced in december 2007 or such..)
I cannot wait until Xperia is coming out - i think it won't be out until 2009 (announced it should be out at Q4 2008 but EVERY phone is coming out AFTER the time it's announced...
I'm still waiting for the Omni:
http://htc-omni.blogspot.com/
Too bad it won't be coming at all.
same boat, here...
Toshiba 910-920 seem the best universal alternatives, but I think their screen cannot be rotated...
....and the speed is what worries me the most, the g900 sucked big time...
Oh....I agree Asus has missed a great chance with the m930, inside screen is ridicolous to say at least.
With a 3.5 800x480 screen many and many people would have bought an M930 in a heartbeat....what a bad joke, Asus!
I REALLY LIKE ASUS M930!
It's a shame that runs WinMo6 standard edition.. No touch screen
With a better screen it would be WONDERFUL!
that's a shame!
ARRRRGGGHHHH........
If only this would be a wm6.1 device.......argh.....some sites report it's wm6, but IMHO it's just a mistake.....anyway, 854x480 3.5" screen, 1.6" ext screen, bt, wifi (unconfirmed), tv on the move, gps, qwerty, micro sdhc, hsdpa.....
Unfortunately there is no word on pricing or availability in europe or america, and gsm hsdpa bands details....
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Sweet and Sexy, if you ask me!
Commercial video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsRjLdM9y7A
Unboxing....geek porn (and pink it's horrible, btw):
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-15750-Softbank+922SH+Unpacking.html
Official Sharp Website:
http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/sb922sh/
First pda that it's not yet on pdadb.net!?!??!? Must write them!!
dianotea said:
ARRRRGGGHHHH........
If only this would be a wm6.1 device.......argh.....some sites report it's wm6, but IMHO it's just a mistake.....
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!
That's amazing!!!!
Sharp Softbank 922SH
.....that's the name of the beauty!
Video comparison with tilt, wzero and a dozen other phones.....wow...that's a huge screen, second only to the em-one 4.1"....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epNL3-GdtIU&feature=related
Wait.......that's vito smartnavigator on the 922sh.....or am I wrong!?!??!?!!? So....is it a WM device or not?!?!?!
A video of the user interface.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36348Q-2bQ4
Any japan forumer could visit the sharp website and explain if this is a Windows Mobile device (which version?) and the GSM UMTS HSDPA bands used?
If this is WM and can use some europe 2100 HSDPA than my universal will be for sale very soon!!!
I've been also looking for Universal (SPV M5000) replacement, but I couldn't find anything interesing. I'm sick of waiting for Omni, 'cause it's propably waste of time. After few months of searching I'm focused on two devices: Kaiser and E90, but...I really don't want to go for QVGA screen again (previously I've owned TyTn /M3100/) so for 90% i'll go for Nokia.
It's very sad that there's no Universal II, 'cause I would paid (almos) any money for this.
Hi everyone,
Good news guys, HTC is gonna be replacing the HTC Mogul with a newer Device CODENAMED HTC RAPHAEL and the Touch with HTC DIAMOND, it seems to be Sprint EXCLUSIVE, so lets wait for Fall '08 to see these babies.
Source: Engadget Mobile
EDIT: sorry for the misunderstanding guys, THEY ARE NOT RECALLING, THEY FACING OUT THE MOGUL AND TOUCH FOR THE HTC RAPAHEL AND HTC DIAMOND NEW DEVICES and it seems to be SPRINT EXCLUSIVE.
Ohhhh, I thought you meant there was a recall lol.
YEAH! I can't wait! Awww man, that phone looks sexy!
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They have a replacement for the HTC P4350 that looks similar, but the keyboard is not as nice and the device as a whole is fatter and has slighly rounder edges.
I hope I can upgrade for less than $150
It's hideous.
Seriously, you gonna put that in your pocket?
I don't put my phones in pockets, I put them in holsters. And its not hideus. Its much better looking than the Mogul at least.
Here's a better idea of what its going to look like:
Like that but with a glossy body.
Wow! Looks really nice. How is the RAM on it?
No word on that yet but I'm willing to bet its 128MB.
Man, thats some exciting news bro!
I am most concerned with how many hard buttons vs. the mogul and if it will have the scroll. Two things I will never go down on from here on out.
I'm not really concerned about that. I find the scroll wheel useless since I can scroll by swiping my finger. And I find the IE and Messaging buttons useless when I have shortcuts for that on my screen. Makes my phone look weird...
wow thats whats up. Cant wait for this to come out. I'm happy with Mogul design, just hate the limited memory. They can take the wifi away and hopefully add a better camera, although not really needed...
I really dislike the face of the Mogul. Its not anywhere near as good-looking as the Wing or the Tilt. Also, its really slippery, unlike the Wing and the Tilt.
They need to give the Raphael better battery life, a 3mp camera, and the wifi is necessary for most people, including myself.
hidavi said:
I really dislike the face of the Mogul. Its not anywhere near as good-looking as the Wing or the Tilt. Also, its really slippery, unlike the Wing and the Tilt.
They need to give the Raphael better battery life, a 3mp camera, and the wifi is necessary for most people, including myself.
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I put an invisibleShield front and side protection for about $25 and it has the best grip all around now. It makes it a much better phone. I have that stuff on all our phones and cameras and ipods. You can drop your phone and that stuff really protects it like no other.
I hope you're right, and if it doesn't have wifi, I am not interested.
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I'm not really concerned about that. I find the scroll wheel useless since I can scroll by swiping my finger. And I find the IE and Messaging buttons useless when I have shortcuts for that on my screen. Makes my phone look weird...
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I didn't like the IE and Messaging buttons at first but I love them now. Having a shortcut on the screen only helps if you go back to the Today Screen. I love being able to open either program with 1 button push no matter what screen the Moguls on.
I'm excited about the idea of getting more RAM but I'm pretty disappointed with the look of that new phone. Looks really cheap and I don't like the layout of the buttons on the bottom.
Since this phone is the successor to the Mogul, I am assuming they are kicking the TITANII(kaiser) to the curve.
With that being said this phone should have all the necessary drivers unlike the kaiser. It makes me think that HTC won't be planning on updating the Kaiser to new drivers and just decided to skip the phone and build a new line.
Now a days I would consider Rev. A, 256MB ROM, 128 RAM, Bluetooth, WIFI, GPS & AGPS, WM6.1 or Android, 3 MP or higher camera w/ flash, Functional / existing drivers, slide out keyboard or full size on screen key board, STEREO speakers, SDHC card capabilities, and Bigger screens a new standard for phones these days.
Looks Sweet!
I for one think it looks great. I love my phone and wish it was thinner. I do keep it in my pocket and not holstered. Thinner is better. More ram is a must 128 isn't enough. I would sacrifice the camera upgrade for better ram. 512MB would be ideal. I had the 6700 and when it took a dump it took it in and they replaced it with a Mogul. Hopefully they'll do it again when my phone mysteriously takes a dump on me... PS [email protected](K THE IPHONE.
My 2 cents....
There's a few things that i'm not liking.
First of all the 2.8" screen should be bigger, it better take up the majority of the front if it stays 2.8". unlike the mogul
Second. i don't think i could deal with the keyboard sliding to the left. I like to be able to hold my phone in my right hand and open the keyboard with my thumb by sliding the screen to the left. how would that work sliding the other way? I would have to use my left hand. Then the directional pad will be on the right. wtf. I hope this doesn't stay.
The name? who came up with that?
Also, I don't think we will see more than 128mb of ram. For WM6 there's really no need. If we're able to put WM7 on these then how is HTC going to sell us their next 'mogul'. (If WM7 even requires that) especially if this has H/W acceleration and it's up to what the msm7500 sounds like it could be.
I would love to see more than one micro sd slot. leave one on the bottom of the phone so it's easy to get to and put a few under the battery. They wouldn't take up any room at all and with as cheap as micro sd cards will eventually get we could have 32gb of storage easily. Whenever i need more room just pop in a new 8gb sd which will probably be under 20 bucks in 09.
Maybe have a tilting screen like the tilt
WiMax... ok maybe im dreaming.
Anyways, If this has a 3"+ vga screen, working H/W acceleration, a few micro sd slots, keyboard that slides to the right, decently thin, and it actually runs good i would pay $700 for it. If not i'll just keep the mogul, hope drivers get hacked, and buy an UMPC (go WMWiFiRouter!). Can't wait untill september.
I like it a lot. It fixes a big complaint I have with the Mogul, the phone buttons are the same height as the others, so you don't keep accidentilly calling people while the phone is in the case. It looks slimmer, which is good.
For the love of god please let it not "tilt", what a stupid feature, amkes the phone impossible to use in your hands. And I like that there's no "bing" on the front.
Multiple SD cards slots is dumb. One slot is fine, don't go jacking up the price of the phone with usless features like that.
Better camera ++. I would like to see a bigger screen, but as lonf as it's the same size as the Mogul, I'm cool with that. Rev A, GPS, and WiFi all needed. As far as RAM, as much as you can cram in there, 128 should be a minimum.
As for the name, I'm sure that's an internal developmnt name, it will debut with another name.
WOW looking at the second pi on page one. the new phone looks Very cimilar to my 4 year old Creative Zen: Vision M.
BE PREPARED TO BE AMAZED WITH ITS SPECS!
* Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
* Qualcomm MSM 7201A 520MHz CPU
* 256MB ROM
* 128MB RAM
* 7.2MB HSDPA/HSUPA (Rev A for Sprint versions)
* 2.8″ VGA Screen
* WiFi
* Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
* eGPS
* 3.1MP With Flash
* Forward Facing Camera (for video calls I presume)
* 4GB Internal Flash Storage (Diamond only)
* TV Out (Raphael only)
* Orientation Sensor (just like the iPhone)
* FM Radio
* MicroSD Expansion
* 900mAh Battery
I'm thinking what could replace my trusty X1. After a bit of surfing it was down to the Samsung Omnia Pro B7610 with it's AMOLED screen and 900mhz.
But I've now found this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWlhOYGXAuw
I could do with a bit more ram (only has 256/512 rom).
But I like the add on projector. Ideal for keeping in your laptop bag and plugging on to the phone when you want to.
What do you guys think?
Rans,
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I like the phone, without the projector. With LG, I won't have to pay HTC tax, which seems ludicrious, with HTC Diamond (1)'s costing more than an X1.
I think its kinda cool, but in all reality the only thing cool about this phone is the projector.
How would that projector actually work? By using native app or projecting device screen (clone mode) ?
matejdro said:
How would that projector actually work? By using native app or projecting device screen (clone mode) ?
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I'd guess its clone mode, so you could use it for presentations etc.
I would imagine that the LG build quality means that the keyboard works without the iiiiiii oooooooo etc, and it doesn't crack down the sides if you look at it
I would rather have a better camera than the fingerprint reader (had one on a M900, sold it within a week) but all in all it ticks the right boxes for me.
• Network: GPRS/EDGE Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900 MHz),
UMTS/HSDPA Tri-band (850/1900/2100 MHz)
• Camera: 5.0 MP autofocus, digital 3x zoom with built-in flash
• Dimensions: 4.45″ H x 2.16″ W x 6.3″ D
• Memory: 512 MB ROM + 256 MB RAM
(expandable 16 GB microSD™)
• Display: 3.2″ 16M color WVGA (800×480 pixels)
• Battery: 1500mAh Li-polymer
• OS: Windows Mobile® 6.5
• Bluetooth®: v2.1 with A2DP
• Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g with WPA2 security
• Email: Outlook®/Direct Push, POP, IMAP
• Messaging: Threaded SMS, MMS, Email, IM
• Keyboard: Side-sliding QWERTY
• Processor: Qualcomm 1 GHz
Highlighted Features:
• Integrated Pico Projector (sold separately): Allows users to project
images, videos and more on a screen up to 40″
• 5.0 MP AF camera with built-in flash
• Simultaneous voice and data with multi-tasking
• Touchscreen Windows Mobile 6.5 – the new Windows Phone
• Innovative 5-way navigation fingerprint sensor
• Turn-by-turn directions with AT&T NavigatorSM (sold separately) and
built-in GPS
• Access to your favorite AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots with built-in Wi-Fi
• Vivid display with 16M color high resolution display
• 3G HSDPA 7.2 Mbps broadband data speeds
Email, Messaging, Productivity and Internet Solutions:
• Access work and personal email accounts
• SMS, MMS, IM (AOL®, Windows Live™ and Yahoo!®)
• Microsoft Office® Mobile including Word®, Excel®, PowerPoint®
and OneNote®
• Internet Explorer® Mobile
Multimedia Tools and Services:
• Windows® Media Player
• AT&T MEdia™ Mall, MusicID, XM Radio™, MobiTV® and Games
Rans,
The only issue is firmware... LG sucks at software - I used an LG Arena, it was slow and clunky.
Hopefully there'd be chefs willing to cook for it.
rickysio said:
The only issue is firmware... LG sucks at software - I used an LG Arena, it was slow and clunky.
Hopefully there'd be chefs willing to cook for it.
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Should'nt be a problem since its a WM 6.5 Device.
LG only had Problems with there on lousy software.
I think LG will not install any "addons" that will make that phone really crapy.
With Windows Phone they have a good base at least.
Btw. i'm missing infos about a G-Sensor.
If there is one, it would really be an alternative to the X2
Yes it does have orentation sensor
LordK said:
Should'nt be a problem since its a WM 6.5 Device.
LG only had Problems with there on lousy software.
I think LG will not install any "addons" that will make that phone really crapy.
With Windows Phone they have a good base at least.
Btw. i'm missing infos about a G-Sensor.
If there is one, it would really be an alternative to the X2
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I just picked up a Telus LG IQ (this is the Canadian version of the eXpo) and it does change orientation based on how you hold it..in some apps...for instance Internet explorer will change to landscape if you turn the phone on its side.
YES please chefs!
rickysio said:
The only issue is firmware... LG sucks at software - I used an LG Arena, it was slow and clunky.
Hopefully there'd be chefs willing to cook for it.
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I just picked up the Canadian version and am VERY looking forward to a cooked ROM or two....
XDA doesn't support non-HTC phones, so don't count on any ROMS here.
Not so there are lg incite roms here
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Not so there are lg incite roms here
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Although you brought that with a lot of fervor, I don't see any evidence.
I wouldn't be too surprised if a few ROMs for other WM phones are around the forums - people from other sites come and share here too.
Fact remains, there won't be an LG eXpo section on XDA, as it's not an HTC manufactured phone, unless the XDA administrator changes the rules.
You know I'm right and I know I'm right - lets just stop messing about.
It's a pity this site is so linked to HTC and not windows mobile phones in general. The ability to run Microsoft products on various hardware manufacturers equipment gave it the advantage in the popularity stakes. If they had stuck with a single manufacturer like IBM I'd be typing this (and you would probably be viewing this) on a mac.
The original XDA was a ground breaking piece of kit, and it sporned this site, but there's some great WM phones out there and I'm sure that some of the software they have could be ported to HTC's devices.
Maybe it's time for the mods to open up this site to all WM devices and take the site to the next level, rather than a blinkered approach to a single hardware manufacturer.
Whats your opinion Mods?
Rans,
I don't think you'll reach a lot of mods by posting in this topic - for that you should go to the general XDA forums, or maybe ideas and suggestions.
However, without ever having browsed those forum sections, I can tell you that this must've been suggested thousands of times already.
I think one of the main problems is the scope. Earlier on, HTC was the main WM phone manufacturer. Now there's so many companies out there doing the same..
Even HTC has way too many WM phones already (try looking for one in the main forum, it's a huge list). If we'd add all other WM phones, the forum would get a mile long.
Ratchet8clank said:
I think its kinda cool, but in all reality the only thing cool about this phone is the projector.
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Not true - Snapdragon, 1 GHz.
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Not so there are lg incite roms here
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Ast' is right. There are LG Incite ROMs. Search under Xcite.
I am so excited for the expo. i think that is what i will be sticking with for a few months maybe years. plus i hate paying the htc tax.
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I am so excited for the expo. i think that is what i will be sticking with for a few months maybe years. plus i hate paying the htc tax.
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I agree that it seems pretty sweet. Not flashy, but great speed and features - like what we all wish the x1 could have been. I hope the camera and video recording are good. I wish they'd sell an add-on xenon flash in addition to that projector.
Angelusz said:
Although you brought that with a lot of fervor, I don't see any evidence.
I wouldn't be too surprised if a few ROMs for other WM phones are around the forums - people from other sites come and share here too.
Fact remains, there won't be an LG eXpo section on XDA, as it's not an HTC manufactured phone, unless the XDA administrator changes the rules.
You know I'm right and I know I'm right - lets just stop messing about.
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Sorry to be the guy that challenges what other people say but there is a dedicated sony ericcson X1 section, so I am assuming that other devices are eligible. I think its a litttle important to mention that unlike the rest of the world, this is the first US phone to drop with a QSD, I am thinking of getting one myself, but will wait to see if ROMs are getting cooked as a stock device will not do.
True, but HTC made X1.
I was fortunate enough to be able to buy and test the new Acube iWork 10, a Chinese windows 8.1 10.1" tablet. So here is my review on it if anyone is looking for a win 8.1 tablet at a very reasonable price.
Full Name Cube/ACube iwork 10 U100GT
Specs:
10.1-inch IPS capacitive touchscreen of 1280 x 800 px resolution;
1.8GHZ Intel Atom Bay-Trail Z3740D Quad-core Processor, Intel HD Graphic (Gen7) GPU
2GB of LPDDR3 RAM
Windows 8.1 (Need to be activated by the user themselves)
32GB of SSD built-in Storage
2MP front-facing camera/2MP rear-facing camera
Back-mounted stereo speakers
Wi-Fi 802.11
Bluetooth v4.0
USB 2.0 host (adapter required which does not come in the box)
Micro SD card slot
Standard 3.5 mm audio jack
HDMI V1.4
8,000mAh Li-Po battery
Pros:
- Very quick boot/ Shutdown. About 1.5 seconds!
- Price around $400 (with the case) shipped to Australia from sites like Ali Express
- Build quietly is amazing
- fast and responsive
- The Keyboard case (needs to be bought separately)
- Micro SD card slot
- Battery life- I got about 7-8 hours of usage from this with which is pretty awesome!
- size is impressive compared to other 10 inch windows tablets out there. 258 x 173 x 10.4 mm
- at 604g it is lighter then most windows 10.1 inch tablets out there including the surface tablets.
- Acube will be releasing a Android ROM soon so you can dual boot!!!!!
Cons:
- No USB 3
- No full size USB port
- No full size HDMI port
- 32 GB memory only!
- No use charging and charger seems like it can break pretty easily
- Win 8.1 Pro needs to be activated separately (some might come with it but mine did not)
Screen:
The IPS screen is pretty good, 1280 x 800 px resolution does well. and viewing angles are awesome!. good for watching movies, doing work etc.
build quietly and design:
The build quietly is better then expected feels solid in the had and really nice to use. design and size of the tablet is pretty awesome as well. Does not look cheap! at 604g it is lighter then most windows 10.1 inch tablets out there including the surface tablets. The tablet has a 2-megapixel front camera and 2-megapixel rear camera, both of which can take pictures or interact with Skype sessions. The tablet has accelerometers, G-sensor, and vibration feedback (particularly when you use the Start button), three features that are almost must-haves for this type of product.
Battery life:
The battery life could always be better but for the size I guess its pretty good. I got 7-8 hours on charge which pretty good and compared to laptops this was very welcome. only thing is it does take a while to charge.
The Keyboard case (sold separately)
The case is very well made and really easy to use. It connects to the tablet via a magnet like the surface tablets which I think is pretty cool. It works well, the only thing is the touch pad does not seem to have the gestures which i find annoying (even it it does they dont seem to work for me). the case also turns into a stand which is nice and very stable on a bed etc. I would defiantly recommend get the keyboard case because personally im not use to using windows without one and the windows on screen keyboard does not like to work well with firefox (no auto pop up and takes up most of the screen and this gets annoying very quickly!).
Price in Australian $: As I said above it is about $400 with the case from sites like Aliexpress but I am sure you can find it cheaper from other places.. the actual retail price is RMB1,699 ($281USD). So in saying that we can can compare it to the major brands.
Some points to note
- Pretty cheap for a 10.1" win 8.1 tablet even at $400 but then again you can get a ASUS Transformer Book T100 for around $500-$600 with double the storage space of 64gb with the same processor and specs
- 8 inch tablets like Asus Vivo Tab 8.0 or TOSHIBA Encore 8 for the $400 but then again they are 8inch which in my opinion are a bit small for windows.
Overall thoughts.
I am always weary (as you never know what to expect) about Chinese products yet I always seem to keep buying them and let me tell you they have been getting better and better day by day! I bought a Teclast p98 mini tablet running android and let me tell you it is awesome for the price i paid and running the intel chip. You can read that review i did here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611057.
Price is a bit high for us in Australia if you get it from sites like Aliexpress but in saying when the dual boot android rom is released you will essentially get 2 tablets in one which I guess this worth it! the main disappointment was no full size USB which can get really annoying at times, specially when the adapter did not come in the box so that is an additional cost. Also you need to activate windows on your own but some might come with it (this you will have to confirm on your own).
Here are links to pictures i took:
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If you have any questions please let me know
Thanks for the review and pictures. Having now had your iwork10 for 2 months, how are you finding it? Do you use it daily and what common issues do you experience?
Where did you purchase your device from and would you recommend the device to a friend?
Thanks
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Windows 8.1 Driver pack
I'm with one "No-Brand" U100GT for about 2 months. Finally find a kit with all extra drivers needed in one package. Now I've managed to install my Win 8.1 PT-BR version and got everything functional. The next step is search for a dual boot Win / Android solution. Bluestacks runs very slow on 3D games.
Just google "Cube iwork drivers" (I can't post links yet)
The installer is in chinese, but it's easy to guess where to click.
Click OK on the first dialog and wait.
It will unpack the drivers on a folder on the C:root and then run a bunch of .bat.
It's no need for reboot. You can delay it until the end of the install.
You may want to archive the folder for easy re-installation.
cube Iwork10 tablet ? where you buy this tablet? it makes me interesting. there is a site,named Ghdeal.fr,how do you think?
or have any better suggestions?
blackman818 said:
cube Iwork10 tablet ? where you buy this tablet? it makes me interesting. there is a site,named Ghdeal.fr,how do you think?
or have any better suggestions?
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same device, different name but on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quantum-keyboard-Windows-Baytrail-T-Quad-core/dp/B00LU0UXA6
My Bios crash... can u send me a copy of your Bios ?.
I will be grateful
good evening. where can i download these drivers?
good evening. where can i download these drivers?
ariliz said:
good evening. where can i download these drivers?
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Hi, did you find them? I am looking for driver for webcam. After clean install of Windows 10, I am missing two drivers. One is for webcam, and teh other one is for - who knows. The drivers would help me a lot. Thank you