I'm starting to wonder about the X7501 - it's turning into hard work and the surprises are becoming a little (a lot) annoying.
The flaky Microdrive was the first surprise - still waiting on HTC (who have been responding to emails) to come up with a viable solution.
Now, I've just learnt from Tom Tom that my new X7501 will not run TomTom unless it is running the ROM that already has TomTom loaded:
Please note that only the Advantage X7500 running Windows Mobile 6 is compatible with Navigator 6. This PDA comes preinstalled with a special version of the Navigator 6 software on its Rom memory. Unless your HTC Advantage X7501 comes preinstalled with a special version of Navigator 6 it is not compatible with the software.
Perhaps I'm being a little ambitious, but I'd like the X7501 to use the TomTom software and maps loaded on the X7501 - not downloaded as you go. I'm happy to buy these (for Australia) from TomTom.
Do I box it up and return it or is there an alternative GPS/on board maps solution possible to bring this puppy back into the serious category?
Thanks
Bart
i dont see why you shouldnt be able to install tom tom and run it ... afterall it is a windows mobile program
have you tried?
I agree - it's only an app - so why do TomTom say it'll only work on a machine with the software preloaded?
BTW, Can't find a copy of TomTom 6 to try. Downloading the update from the site doesn't help. There's nothing on my HTC CD that may help.
works on Ameo
I manageded to get Navigator 5 working on the Ameo with WM6, can't see why you couldn't. TomToms tech support is very bad so don't take thier word for anything.
i have x7501 an TomTom 6 works great. pm me with you email an i can send you the cab file that you need.
pre-installed according to tomtom?
Bollocks.
Comes on the fricking CD to be added manually.
works fine as well, as does TT5 and Copilot 6 (apart from not natively being VGA, but seems to work for me anyway)
Maybe they mean the version of TomTom that is bundled on the CD?
When I got my x7500, it came with a bundled tomtom, sprite backup and a gprs monitor .. none of these work however if I'm using a custom ROM.
Downloading fresh, unrestricted versions of each however work fine .. looks like the cabs are rom specific
I have x7501 and x7500. i tried installing the cd that comes with x7500 and it doesnt work with x7501. it will tell you it is not the correct device. i have ttn 6 cab that works. pm me ...
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When I got my x7500, it came with a bundled tomtom, sprite backup and a gprs monitor .. none of these work however if I'm using a custom ROM.
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I am using a custom ROM and I managed to get all of the programs bundled on CD to work without any issue.
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halljames said:
mcwtrekkie said:
When I got my x7500, it came with a bundled tomtom, sprite backup and a gprs monitor .. none of these work however if I'm using a custom ROM.
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I am using a custom ROM and I managed to get all of the programs bundled on CD to work without any issue.
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Really? Damn...
I had to use SPB GPRS Monitor and 'find' a key
Oh well .. nevermind, I don't use TomTom that much as I dont have a car yet and I've jst got an unlimited data plan, so I dont really need the gPRS monitor anymore. Thanks for the input though .. can I ask which ROM you're using?
Hi all,
I'm looking for a softphone which 'really' works on a Trinity.
I'm running bepe 0.79 (ger) on my p3600, upto now I didn't find a softphone which meets my needs. Some things I would like to have:
using phonespeaker (not speaker at the back)
using the phone buttons
STUN support
sound quality should be reasonable
multi provider capable
best would be use of 'normal' dialpad (integration in GSM-phone)
...
It would be nice to get some recommendations or feedback if someone found a piece of software which works...
Thanks,
speedy-g
WM6 integrated SIP phone seems to be the closest match, but it's oh so crippled... Check out PocketTalk for something different.
http://www.nch.com.au/talk/
Either I'm blind or there is something wrong...
Where can I find WM6 for my M700?
Windows Mobile 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Features Pack
OS 5.1.342 (Build 15096.3.0.0)
Processor: SC32442A-400MHz
Memory: 49.35
Operator version 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
ROM date: 01/25/07
Radio version 1.30.00.01
Protocol Version: 32.63.7020.08H
Hello a$h.
Well,all over the place,since it´s a HTC-P3600.....go to trinity mobile 6 and you´ll see what you can do with your M700,by the way is that the one from Orange?
Do you mean this one Trinity P3600 D810 SPV M700 or this one M700 from E-TEC Glofiish M700?
If it is the first one you are fine if it´s the second one wrong forum and don´t try it,you could brick it,make sure is one or the other.
Speedy-g
Regarding the softphone I´d recommend the one that I´ve been using for years SJphone,I believe it uses the back speaker,this could be an isue for ya,but give it a try.
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
I use SJphone too with sipgate, voip uk and some others, and it works great
How to configure it?
Hi there,
I have installed the SJPHONE and, despite I have checked some forums, I am not able to configure it properly.
Could someone please tell me which are the setting options you have got?
P.D.: I am user of voipstunt.
Hello everyone.
This is my first post. Actually, I added this as a reply on a thread but it's so long and covers so many areas I thought I'd create a new thread from it, if that is ok.
Here are some answers to people's questions on various threads about the 614c ROM images, and my comments particularly on the various ROMs out there.
Here's a link to the latest WM6.1 ROM from a Russian gentleman yevg001 who creates them.
Here's a link to the latest hp official WM6.0 ROM.
1) Yes, you can flash to yevg001 israpda WM6.1 ROMs and then back to the hp WM6.0 ROM from the hp website as often as you like. Flashing from an SD card (not SDHC) has worked reliably several times on my three 614c phones, and flashing using the hp software also works fine (it's much slower because it loads the ROM down a USB cable).
2) The big difference between the yevg001 ROM and the hp ROM is that the hp ROM contains an update to the device firmware, to v0.88 (the latest version). This is of interest if you still have firmware v0.77 (the previous and originally released version). The yevg001 ROMs do not affect your firmware version.
3) If you apply the hp ROM, you cannot get back to v0.77 firmware - I don't think the hp installer will downgrade you, even if you have an old hp ROM image.
4) Why might you want to downgrade to v0.77 device firmware? Because v0.88, while better in numerous ways, has one critical defect: it does not properly support call waiting. When a second call is received (and you hear the beeps in your ear), the active call is affected in that the person you are talking to cannot hear you - and usually hangs up because he/she things you have lost the line. It's very annoying. Other than this, the firmware is better and more stable, due to various minor bug fixes. Fewer missed calls, fewer crashes.
5) Ok, putting aside device firmware and thinking of software... the latest yevg001 ROM is based on hp software image 1.01.04, the latest image at time of writing. yevg001 has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these. Obviously, you cannot uninstall them as they are in the ROM, but they also therefore don't take up any usable space.
6) The touchFLO interface is optional. You can easily deactivate it. It looks quite pretty but I have to say I don't like it, so I've deactivated it just by unchecking it in Today settings.
7) The yevg001 WM 6.1 build (I'm using his v1.6) is very good. I have only noticed one major problem with it. The phone is faster than ever before (and I've tried a lot of ROMs). It is quite stable - a couple of crashes but not noticeably more than the hp ROM. The WM6.1 ROM is entirely in English (with the exception that Yevgeny has added in Russian T9 support - not much use without Russian character set). English T9 works as normal.
8) I have also noticed improved battery life. With the latest hp 1.01.04 WM6.0 ROM, I usually get through four fully charged batteries in 24 hours. With the yevg001 v1.6 WM 6.1 ROM, I only get through three. Yes, I'm quite a heavy user but this is a good improvement.
9) The major problem I mentioned in point 7, which won't affect everyone, is that yevg001's ROM does not allow concurrent voice and data usage on a 3G or HSDPA network. How bad is that? Not all 3G phones support this and it is one of the best features of the 614c... My guess is that yevg001 does not even realise this because there is no (or nearly no) 3G in Russia - at least there wasn't last time I was in Moscow in April/May. Basically, if you have any data connection active at the time you place or receive a call, the phone just abruptly drops the data connection. It re-establishes it fine after your call, but no concurrent usage. **If any Russian forum user is reading this, please could you post to yevg001 and ask him if he can address this?**
10) Other experiences based on my regular usage:
a) Bluetooth works fine, neither better nor worse than the standard HP build. I use several BT headsets for calls and also listen to music using A2DP. The A2DP connection seems more stable under WM6.1. In general on the 614c the BT sound level is too low, it does seems a bit lower still with the yevg001 ROM but it was a problem already.
b) Wi-fi works fine, no problems at all with b or g networks.
c) The PIE browser seems to have been slightly improved under WM6.1.
d) The threaded SMS is fantastic! And better than the iphone too because it allows you to delete and to forward individual messages within the thread. The email client seems to be unchanged.
e) I use tomtom navigator 6.3 (western europe) a lot. It works well.
f) Getting a GPS fix can take more than five minutes from cold. If you've used it before on the same day, it's usually less than a minute. I have always found that the 614c is slower to get a fix than the old 6915 which I believe many 614c users upgraded from.
g) Google Maps also works really well, with GPS, and using HSDPA the 614c is fast enough to keep up with your position on a zoomed-in satellite photo while travelling in a car at 30mph (no I wasn't driving!).
h) The media player is ok, I do wish it would read the album artwork out of the mp3 metadata, but that's a slightly off topic observation.
i) The camera is shockingly slow. I use it rarely. The autofocus works quite well.
j) I've had no problems with lots of 8GB SDHC cards.
k) Battery life battery life battery life. The Achilles heel of the 614c. See point 8 above.
m) Activesync seems to work more quickly and more reliably under the WM6.1 ROM than previously.
n) Voice Commander is rubbish. Why do they bother? It takes ages to start up, only works from American accents, is generally slow and intrusive (over other open windows) and is unreliable. MS Voice Command was much better.
Hope all this is interesting! Let me know what you think and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Cheers,
hipppo
p.s. Update as of 22 December:
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
The password is "israpda.com" (without the quotes).
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
Merry Christmas
hipppo
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
My experience.
I do agree with the comments. I might add another issue - some of the programs based on netCF don't work - they report errors. I installed netCF3.5 but the problem still persists.
Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for this very detailed post.
It answered a lot of my questions!
Have HP categorically said they won't be releasing an official 6.1 ROM?
Thanks,
Adam
In my Ipaq 614C the word-completion features does not with on-screen keyboard. It's normally cauby by XT9? XT9 work well with the physical keyboard.
vgbvn said:
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
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i ve bought the extended battery from HP and i have to say that it reallly enhance the use of the 614c ! i haven't really measured but i would say it last 2-3 times later than with the actual battery, using this 6.1 rom. the only drawback is that the phone is now bigger...
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
HP said that "there aren't any devices made by HP with WM6.1 at the moment so they will have to make tests if the ipaq 610 is compatable with wm 6.1 and then think of releasing update". IMHO this means something like "We are not going to release wm 6.1 update if you want an official wm 6.1 phone go buy something else" . Of course it's compatable with wm 6.1 and it's working much better with it, but they have to pay $$$ to Microsoft so they can use wm 6.1 and they probably won't do that. The truth is, that the ipaq is cheaper then most of the other devices with similar hardware. I don't think that of they release an udate it will be better than the russian rom. The battery drains because you have a very, very fast CPU. I tested it with XcpuScalar and it plays 320x240 MP4 video with decent quality when clocked at 104MHZ. Now you can imagine the excessive power of the CPU, which is utilized at maximum only when playing QUAKE 2 or some playstation emulator, or when using SKYPE.
thanks for the infos but i can't register there to download a rom.what can we do for this?i don't speak russian
Latest Russian ROM
Hello everyone,
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
axlastro said:
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
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i think that i' ll buy this cradle from Brando:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02686
it 'll enables me to charge the high capacity battery and the normal battery...
I installed the last ROM update from this thread..
until now, i still haven't found any bugs.. does anyone have found a bugs in this ROM?
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these.
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I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
mire93600 said:
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
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That's the beauty of your iPAQ,
you can tweak it in any way you like.
mine after I installed new ROM >> very stable (recomended)
miroslav.turek said:
Yevg001 has his iPAQ back from service and prepared new ROM:
OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) Ver 1.5
http://rapidshare.com/files/163730994/614c_wm61_20757.rar
Password: israpda.com
ROM was tested only one day.
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tweak with usefull application:
** TouchFLO2D/Manilla2D Skins
with a little bit change assigning voice commander button into <scroll right> function
herg62123 said:
ALL DEVICES (VERSION 19b) WITH YOUTUBE ON INTERNET WIDGET
RAPIDSHARE.........................MEGAUPLOAD
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>>> it's a zip file, Install application #09 only **09 Manila2D_0.11.all.devices**
then install Manilla 2D Customizer by mpenguin14 to configure it:
mpenguin14 said:
Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
LATEST DOWNLOAD HERE (January 30 v0.28.233)
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then find the skin >> here
WARNING >> not all skins works well.. if you find not working skin, you can always try others.
and many others usefull and stable application:
Opera9.5.2392_WWE, AudioManager_2.0_1819.2129, and others (Install application inside Manila2D_0.11.all.devices** zip file)
Resco file & Registry Explorer 2008
usefull app from lots of http://www.dotfred.net/
(recommended) SH4Ys Pim Backup 2.8.CAB >> Backup tool Messages, Contacts, Logs, Tasks, appointment >> download here
AND MANY OTHERS APPLICATION !!!!!
(credits to all developer)
Move outlook message to storage card
found an article very useful for heavy e-mail user (like me) >> here so you can download large attachment file.
here it is:
Using a registry editor, create or edit the following entries:
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\AttachPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments
Then move the entire Messaging folder under \Windows to \Storage Card and do a soft reset.
do carefully, i'm a newbie
One caveat is that you need to disable the "Messaging" Today plugin before your soft reset. If you don't do this, a second "\Storage Card" folder will be created in your ROM and your real Storage Card will be renamed "\Storage Card2", which isn't very useful is it?
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to edit registry >> use PHM Registry Editor to your Pocket PC to edit the registry...
to disable the Messaging Plugin, click on Start, Settings, Today, Items and untick the Messaging option...
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anw, I'm using resco explorer to edit registry
hipppo said:
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
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Hi Hipppo,
do you have any news about a newer ROM that does not have this problem ?
after using it a while did you find any other problem related to theses cooked rom ?
are thoses new ROMs comming with NetCF3.5 or older ?
Hello Albertorrent,
I have stopped using the yevg001 ROM mentioned in my first posting and I am now using his latest ROM which I think is called Build 20270.1.3.1 v1.4 rev1.2.
I have found this ROM to be stable, no problems. I recommend it.
It allows concurrent voice and data usage.
I am afraid my limited technical knowledge does not allow me to understand your question about NetCF3.5.
hipppo
Thanks,
I ordered my phone monday so I Might have it at the end of the week.
I'll try this new rom.
net CF is usefull to run some applications that has been developped whith it.
I just know that some application cannot install and run if there is not the latest CF (3.5) instaled
for exemple this one :
http://www.retrobits.net/ppc/ppc.shtml
you can find it here :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=1187
thanks
just google it
albertorrent - i have the netcf3.5 as a separate Cab and i install in on the SD card. I haven't noticed any problem using it that way. I think it was somewhere on the forum but you can always google it. If you can't find it i can e-mail it to you. Right now i don't have it installed and I don't miss it much but some programs require it. At the moment I'm using the latest official 6.0 rom and i find the machine quite stable and fast with it. I had the 1.6 version of the russian 6.1 rom but for now i'm with 6.0
I have two identical balckstone, loaded with energy WM 6.5
Under the same identical conditions one of them can get GPS signal (I am using Garmin XT and I am in Bali, Indonesia)
The other one cannot link the GOS signal. I have tried many applications like
- chartcross GPS test
- HTC GPSTool
- QuickGPS
Garmin appl says GPS is OFF
The testing software say cannot link the GPS
It seems that there is a hardware faulty, but before I confirm that, can somebody suggest other good GPS tools, so I further my testings?
Thanks
Saulo
my both Blackstones Touch HD are equipped as follows:
- OS version 5.2.23016
- Windows Mobile 6.5
- Energy ROM
on the faulty phone, none of the GPS default tools can link the GPS
Thanks and waiting for suggestions....
Saulo
saulo866 said:
my both Blackstones Touch HD are equipped as follows:
- OS version 5.2.23016
- Windows Mobile 6.5
- Energy ROM
on the faulty phone, none of the GPS default tools can link the GPS
Thanks and waiting for suggestions....
Saulo
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Try to install a new Radio ROM
Hi,
I am learning to cook for legacy device HTC Prophet. I want to have my own base ROM, so I started with official WM 6.1 ROM from Kaiser (19214) and Elfin (19772). The OEM/Drivers was derived from the last official WM5 AKU 2.2 from Qtek S200.
Thanks to the wonderful community here, I was able to successfully port the XIP over and get my 1st booter. Everything seemed to work OK, bluetooth, GSM data/phone, Wifi, IR etc.
The only issue I have is Windows Live won't connect. I tried other SW, and they were OK with both EDGE data and Wifi (IE, SJPhone, OperaMini native, Jbed with OperaMini J2ME, PocketOutlook with Yahoo! emails etc.)
This happens with both donor ROMs, and it happens with both the Windows Live comes with the donor ROMs, or the CAB I downloaded from MS website. (to rule out RGU related porting issue.) Marketplace for WM6.1 won't connect, too.
I had tried searching for solution and there seemed to be similiar issue, but I wasn't able to get a solid solution.
I use BuildOS/PKGTool-based toolchain in my own commandline-based kitchen.