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any of you l33t linux users know if we can install *****x on this thing?

sodenrox said:
any of you l33t linux users know if we can install *****x on this thing?
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Not unless someone ports it for Android. Keep in mind, Android is **NOT** Linux. It only uses it's kernal

sodenrox said:
any of you l33t linux users know if we can install *****x on this thing?
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if you have shell access, use ConnectBot and screen+*****x on the linux box.

jasonparekh said:
if you have shell access, use ConnectBot and screen+*****x on the linux box.
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This is the way to go.
What it *****x written in, mostly C? The android app framework uses java, it would take a complete rewrite. Can't really be called a port.

syrusfrost said:
This is the way to go.
What it *****x written in, mostly C? The android app framework uses java, it would take a complete rewrite. Can't really be called a port.
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Sorry...Saturday... was and am toasted
Moral of the story is, it's not easy to just install

momentarylapseofreason said:
Sorry...Saturday... was and am toasted
Moral of the story is, it's not easy to just install
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Oh nothing to be sorry about, you show that you have a better grasp of the architecture of Android OS than 90% here by distinguishing between an OS and a Kernel.

so its using the linux kernel just not linux? lol

sodenrox said:
so its using the linux kernel just not linux? lol
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Common misconception. There is no "linux" out side of the Linux kernel. The most basic form of OS that runs ontop of the Linux kernel is all of the GNU software. That you would call GNU/Linux OS if you wanted too.
Of course the major distributions kind of perpetuate the misconception... meh.

I am using connectbot to connect to shell that is running *****X. It works well but drains a bit of battery. Come hang out in #android on irc.efnet.net

007wrx said:
I am using connectbot to connect to shell that is running *****X. It works well but drains a bit of battery. Come hang out in #android on irc.efnet.net
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how do I connect to that shell?

You have to have your own shell. You can purchase them for a few $ a month.

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What programming language do Android developers use??

A) What programming language do Android developers use??
B) and what language are most apps written on?
B) Java
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html Everything to get started is there.
Android programming is done in linux, apps are written in java.
jroid said:
Android programming is done in linux, apps are written in java.
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Android programming can be done on any OS platform.
kopykatkiller said:
Android programming can be done on any OS platform.
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Yes, but the operating system is based in linux.
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bahnburner said:
Yes, but the operating system is based in linux.
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Yeah, but the way he said it sounded wrong. The Android kernel is programmed in c,c++ and is a Linux based os. You can program apps for Android in most languages now: c++, c, and ruby just to name a few. Most choose java since google has pushed it enough and made it simple.
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The app itself is written in java. And, there is some XML.
Check out eclipse.
Here is a help site for windows: but you can apply it to linux or macosx
http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
SuperMiguel said:
A) What programming language do Android developers use??
B) and what language are most apps written on?
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GREEK.......................................
dattas said:
Yeah, but the way he said it sounded wrong. The Android kernel is programmed in c,c++ and is a Linux based os. You can program apps for Android in most languages now: c++, c, and ruby just to name a few. Most choose java since google has pushed it enough and made it simple.
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This. Java is certainly the most widely-used and most supported by Google, but more and more compilers and VMs are emerging. For example, the MonoDroid project is working on a Mono VM for apps written in C#.
PHP is also on the rise
http://www.infoworld.com/d/develope...-google-android-652?source=rss_infoworld_news
http://www.slideshare.net/coogle/building-php-powered-android-applications
bahnburner said:
Yes, but the operating system is based in linux.
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Linux isn't a language. The user is asking for programming languages.
Pretty sure you can also code apps in C using the NDK. Or maybe that's just OS code, can't remember. Either way it runs extraordinarily faster than Java obviously.
EDIT: Just read up on it and apparently you can only embed C in apps using the NDK in conjunction with the SDK
I think I am going to jump in. I am a software/web developer and I have the Android SDK, Eclipse, Visual Studio 2008 and a number of other tools on my dev box. I love coding in C# but I can do Java and some other stuff too. What is a good way to get my feet wet....aka "Hello World" ?
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I think I am going to jump in. I am a software/web developer and I have the Android SDK, Eclipse, Visual Studio 2008 and a number of other tools on my dev box. I love coding in C# but I can do Java and some other stuff too. What is a good way to get my feet wet....aka "Hello World" ?
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http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/hello-world.html
http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
Thanks. I just got Eclipse (Helios) setup with the ADT pluging and I am messing around with the emulator. So this is basically what it used for testing/debugging etc. or is there something better?
frankencat said:
Thanks. I just got Eclipse (Helios) setup with the ADT pluging and I am messing around with the emulator. So this is basically what it used for testing/debugging etc. or is there something better?
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That's pretty much it. You won't enjoy anything remotely on the level of what you're used to out of something like Visual Studio, but once you figure out Eclipse (and that can take awhile, it's probably one of the more inscrutable modern-style IDEs I've ever used, and I've been doing this for 30 years; and I'm sure I'll get flamed for that)... but once you see the world through Eclipse's eyes, it's about like writing any other app.
I've gotten into Android dev and back out again several times. Usually I get tired of Google's rather sub-par developer support and go back to some type of paying project.
But for some reason, there is a certain kick to seeing your app run on a phone the first few times.
frankencat said:
Thanks. I just got Eclipse (Helios) setup with the ADT pluging and I am messing around with the emulator. So this is basically what it used for testing/debugging etc. or is there something better?
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Yeah you can either use the Virtual Android Device to test your app OR use your phone and you the ADT plugin will install the app onto your device. The emulator takes a long time to start up. Whenever I'm bored and want to write a app for fun, I tend to use my old device (G1) as a debugging device because I can't stand how long emulator takes to stat up.
Thanks guys. I have my first little app up and running in the VAD emulator.
I found out that you need Eclipse 3.5 (not 3.6) and the JRE 1.6 for everything to be happy. Now where to go from here....
This is turning into a nice little getting started thread. I hope people who have other suggestions for noob developers will continue to post.
dex1701 said:
This. Java is certainly the most widely-used and most supported by Google, but more and more compilers and VMs are emerging. For example, the MonoDroid project is working on a Mono VM for apps written in C#.
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Google is also big on Python (Google app engine), supposedly there will be support to create .apk's using python in the feature.

[q] running java application on iconia a500

Hi
i need to run some JAVA APPLICATION on Acer Iconia A500, but i can't find JVM for my tablet.
Any ideas?
thank you
Sorry No Support for Java Virtual Machine yet so Java Applets will not run on the tablets for android. be nice if we can get java support for android sometime soon.
I read something the other day that I thought was pretty interesting...RIM and Google claim that they have the full web with Flash, but if you think about it, Java is all over the web and without Java support, that's not the full web at all.
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java and javascript are different... and both rim and android support javascript, check your settings.
n1nj4dude said:
java and javascript are different... and both rim and android support javascript, check your settings.
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I'm aware of that, especially since Android is based in Java. But even so, Minecraft is on the web and I can't run it. No Java app support. Not full web.
rorytmeadows said:
I'm aware of that, especially since Android is based in Java. But even so, Minecraft is on the web and I can't run it. No Java app support. Not full web.
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So to be clear, since my linux computer won't run microsoft silverlight content, then under the same conclusion, its not full web..
n1nj4dude said:
So to be clear, since my linux computer won't run microsoft silverlight content, then under the same conclusion, its not full web..
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I'd agree. I'm not a big follower of Linux, yet, but I wasn't aware of that. That's too bad.
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there's an website around that will convert JARs and J2MEs to apks..
http://www.netmite.com/android/srv/2.0/getapk.php
rorytmeadows said:
I'd agree. I'm not a big follower of Linux, yet, but I wasn't aware of that. That's too bad.
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But Android is also based on Linux kernels and and other Linux components. Has the same generic command lines to navigate around the file structure.
daswahnsinn said:
But Android is also based on Linux kernels and and other Linux components. Has the same generic command lines to navigate around the file structure.
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I'm aware of that. All I'm saying is if you're a Toyota dealer and you don't have any Camry's on the lot, don't claim that you have every Toyota car in stock.
Technically, it does have full html not web. Java applets and support are an add-on. Android is coded different it was built for phones. This move to tablets is a big move not just adding a bigger screen and better video support. Java support will come once it is profitable for Android/Google.
rorytmeadows is right, certain things just don't work, but thats apple and oranges.
Windows can do somethings that others can't due to its popularity,
Linux can do things that can't be done by others due to superiority.
Mac can do nothing due to the lack of real users just people who like fruit.
rorytmeadows said:
I'm aware of that. All I'm saying is if you're a Toyota dealer and you don't have any Camry's on the lot, don't claim that you have every Toyota car in stock.
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What a dumbass.....for real.
SlCKB0Y said:
What a dumbass.....for real.
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Yeah, I know, right? All for saying something logical...

All I want to do is run Ubuntu without playing with too much of this ROM stuff

I don't know what half of it does and I've had worse case scenarios happen before and I'm just scared lol, My asus is rooted and all .... I just wanna run Ubuntu without getting rid of my stock rom or whatever
You prettymuch have to have an nvflashable sbk1 tf101 to dual boot Ubuntu, I believe.
purple.epod said:
You prettymuch have to have an nvflashable sbk1 tf101 to dual boot Ubuntu, I believe.
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Which you can't with the serials b70 and after due to no nvflash.
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
mrevankyle said:
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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Is there a way of running a virtual machine on my transformer? I think I've seen something like this done with Backtrack 5 on a Xoom, but I wasn't aware of any virtualization software available for Android..
So you bought an Android tablet to run Ubuntu...
Why didn't you buy a PC?
CrazyPeter said:
So you bought an Android tablet to run Ubuntu...
Why didn't you buy a PC?
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Because of the many advantages of ARM chipsets? More efficient power consumption, less heat dissipation, etc.
You could get a net book with a decent battery, an extra gig of ram and whack ubuntu on that.
The more recent atom chips or even amd's are great for that sort of thing.
Could always put a small ssd in it too.
What sort of battery life do you expect from a TF101 with ubuntu?
Asus has promised to release a tool to unlock the Transformer bootloader (at the price of voiding your warranty). When (if?) they release it, you should be able to install Ubuntu on the newer Transformers.
mrevankyle said:
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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Yes , but if I do this will it save files i've put on the ubuntu etc oh and btw just a quick little off topic question, i rooted my tf101 with razorckal, will i still recieve the ota update for ics?
Sustantivo said:
Yes , but if I do this will it save files i've put on the ubuntu etc oh and btw just a quick little off topic question, i rooted my tf101 with razorckal, will i still recieve the ota update for ics?
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Yes, you will get the OTA update (whichi will remove root, if you just apply it)
BTW, I could imagine creating CWM image for ARM Ubuntu, but as far as I know, nobody did that yet, so it would be a DIY job
CrazyPeter said:
So you bought an Android tablet to run Ubuntu...
Why didn't you buy a PC?
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my thoughts exactly.
brando56894 said:
my thoughts exactly.
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I didn't buy it FOR ubuntu, I bought it just for tablet stuff but thought it would be cool to have ubuntu on it too, as my comptuer broke not long ago and i was running ubuntu on it
mrevankyle said:
that is correct you need sbk1(B70 or lower) to install emmc ubuntu although if you want you can always run it in a virtual machine using terminal and a vnc viewer
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So it's b70 and lower that can and not b70 and higher that can't?
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blestsol said:
So it's b70 and lower that can and not b70 and higher that can't?
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Some b70's can some b70's can't so it is generally said that b70's are incompatible just so that people with b70 sbk2's dont complain about things saying that something is compatable with b70 and lower
makes things easier on the devs
Sustantivo said:
I didn't buy it FOR ubuntu, I bought it just for tablet stuff but thought it would be cool to have ubuntu on it too, as my comptuer broke not long ago and i was running ubuntu on it
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That makes more sense. Your OP made it sound like you specifically bought it just to run Ubuntu and didn't care about Android.
hahah yeah sorry :/ it was three am hahaha, but yeah,is there a super simple way to run ubuntu , then go back to my normal android after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364095
if your tf has sbk_v1. takes 20mins with really just 1 click ^^
after installing in dualboot, you can switch from android to ubuntu and back as you wish...

Windows for PI

Just throwing this out their.
http://www.wired.com/2015/02/internet-anything-microsoft-brings-free-windows-raspberry-pi/
tjsooley said:
Just throwing this out their.
http://www.wired.com/2015/02/internet-anything-microsoft-brings-free-windows-raspberry-pi/
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And?
I think it's an good decission by Microsoft to release Windows for the Pi for free.
We will see, what will be possible with it, an if it can compete with an Linux-based OS.
It won't. Widows 10 for RPi is made for developing IoT, not using system.
enedil said:
[...] Widows 10 for RPi is made for developing IoT, not using system.
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Yes, but there are also Linux-based firmwares, which are meant for developing IoT.
And there is the question: Will it be better than an Linux-based OS? Will it just be another OS? Or will it be something completly different?
Windows 10 ain't gonna touch my RPi v2.
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Windows 10 ain't gonna touch my RPi v2.
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If Windows 10 would run in my RPi, it will only run under KVM.(the Pi2 has hardware VT)
black_blob said:
If Windows 10 would run in my RPi, it will only run under KVM.(the Pi2 has hardware VT)
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And what is http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support ?
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And what is http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support ?
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Apparently, that has just ModernUI, so it's ____(insert your worst word here)
Put down your pitchforks guys , if it's anything like how Windows IoT is for Intel Edison boards( the only other boards except RPI to have windows IoT)
It will just be a commandline interface and its ages behind Linux based embedded systems.
jaspreet997 said:
Put down your pitchforks guys , if it's anything like how Windows IoT is for Intel Edison boards( the only other boards except RPI to have windows IoT)
It will just be a commandline interface and its ages behind Linux based embedded systems.
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Actually, if it has only command line and Win32 support, it would be several times better than MetroGUI and no command line
Microsoft made a blogpost a week ago: https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/18/developing-for-the-windows-10-device-platform/
Now we can download the preview on Microsoft website.
But you can install it on RPi only with Windows 10.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could get a full running Windows on RPi?
Not like that's gonna happen -.-
Ubuntu full would honestly be better
Quaesar said:
Wouldn't it be nice if we could get a full running Windows on RPi?
Not like that's gonna happen -.-
Ubuntu full would honestly be better
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Try Ubuntu Mate.
https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/

[Q] Nexus player ubuntu

Is it possible for the nexus player to run Ubuntu 14.10 on it only? Instead of android?
jkfde said:
Is it possible for the nexus player to run Ubuntu 14.10 on it only? Instead of android?
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u may be able to shoehorn ubuntu onto it, but my question is why?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy This apparently works
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u may be able to shoehorn ubuntu onto it, but my question is why?
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Because you could then get a fully-functional, low-cost Linux computer for the cost of Nexus Player hardware ($49).
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy This apparently works
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Because you could then get a fully-functional, low-cost Linux computer for the cost of Nexus Player hardware ($49).
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doing a chroot would be a better idea, then u won't have to deal with possible driver problems and u can still use Android like philhachey suggested
swordrune10 said:
doing a chroot would be a better idea, then u won't have to deal with possible driver problems and u can still use Android like philhachey suggested
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Would I be able to install on my flashdirve I've been thinking about doing this to mine I recently picked up a pny 128gb
nikkifm said:
Would I be able to install on my flashdirve I've been thinking about doing this to mine I recently picked up a pny 128gb
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it is possible, i have my chromebook with ubuntu on a flashdrive as a chroot.
swordrune10 said:
it is possible, i have my chromebook with ubuntu on a flashdrive as a chroot.
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Thank you for the reply back how do you like it on there? Any guides in about going on this I'm not to fimliair with Linux commands enough unless if I remember it does it automatically
nikkifm said:
Thank you for the reply back how do you like it on there? Any guides in about going on this I'm not to fimliair with Linux commands enough unless if I remember it does it automatically
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honestly i used the crouton script, for the nexus player u WILL have to use an app to do it for u, to get sound, x11, and everything else to play nicely. im sure it could be done manually but i can imagine that would be a headache
EDIT: oh, for the usb part i did a symlink for the chroot folder
swordrune10 said:
honestly i used the crouton script, for the nexus player u WILL have to use an app to do it for u, to get sound, x11, and everything else to play nicely. im sure it could be done manually but i can imagine that would be a headache
EDIT: oh, for the usb part i did a symlink for the chroot folder
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Hopefully there is a guide somewhere around here I could use. Also thought about trying to get debain Groot to run again mess around with that see if that will be easier or benefit for my needs to had it but updated np
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Hopefully there is a guide somewhere around here I could use. Also thought about trying to get debain Groot to run again mess around with that see if that will be easier or benefit for my needs to had it but updated np
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sounds good, messing with that stuff is fun

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